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Aug 13, 2010 12:03 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I've always wondered in Seed why don't they put the bridge in the very middle of the ship so the enemy couldn't reach it easily. Now I see they were working on it :)
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Oct 1, 2011 10:12 PM
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hmm... so i've also wondered a few things upon watching Seed Destiny, as opposed to the original Seed.

one particular thought is this "duty" laser, for neglect of remembering the proper name, which was used to fully charge the power supply of the Impulse Gundam... how convenient considering the dire situation the Minerva was inevitably being entangled in by both Orb and the Alliance. like magic, so to speak.

the other would be this ridiculously thought out"reaching" for another all-out war between the Coordinators and Naturals. without going into detail, i just can't but feel unimpressed with how events suddenly took place to cause such a huge spin for the worst. when comparing the conclusion to the previous war and the war at hand, it just seems somewhat farfetched to conclude the devastation both sides have gone through... only to ride the same wave of conflict again... they know this and willingly rush head first. -_-"

i'm only mentioning this now because of Cagalli's weak resolve and susceptible nature.
Oct 1, 2011 10:47 PM
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hmm... so i've also wondered a few things upon watching Seed Destiny, as opposed to the original Seed.

one particular thought is this "duty" laser, for neglect of remembering the proper name, which was used to fully charge the power supply of the Impulse Gundam... how convenient considering the dire situation the Minerva was inevitably being entangled in by both Orb and the Alliance. like magic, so to speak.

the other would be this ridiculously thought out"reaching" for another all-out war between the Coordinators and Naturals. without going into detail, i just can't but feel unimpressed with how events suddenly took place to cause such a huge spin for the worst. when comparing the conclusion to the previous war and the war at hand, it just seems somewhat farfetched to conclude the devastation both sides have gone through... only to ride the same wave of conflict again... they know this and willingly rush head first. -_-"

i'm only mentioning this now because of Cagalli's weak resolve and susceptible nature.


The name of the beam that the Minerva used to charge the Impulse was the Deuterion beam. I thought it was a pretty nifty thing myself.

Also, I agree with Destiny simply pulling for another war between ZAFT and the Alliance... one of my gripes with Destiny is the fact that it has a horrible tendency to repeat the original SEED's events, not all, but stuff like that. It kind of makes it very predictable what will happen after a while.

I hate Cagalli's weak resolve in Destiny, myself. Where did that tsundere, strong girl go?

Aside from that, this episode is most memorable for me due to Shinn getting SEED mode, backed by the fantastic BGMs... amazing.
Oct 2, 2011 12:15 AM
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The name of the beam that the Minerva used to charge the Impulse was the Deuterion beam. I thought it was a pretty nifty thing myself.


i was actually pointing out how the Minerva was conveniently equipped with such a feature... i'm sure it's a prototype of sorts, being on the newly manufactured class of battleship the Minerva falls in... but i can't help but wonder why it isn't a standard for ALL battleships to be equipped with it considering how useful it is.

regardless, it was less of a thought and more of a "SURPRISE FULL HEALTH!" deal than anything else to be honest. it WOULD seem so much more practical to be installed in all carriers... but hey, that's Destiny for you i guess > >
Oct 30, 2011 3:47 PM
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wtf is this hacks? this show is kind of ridiculous. why are they ruining cagallis character??? i dont care about all the political bullshit and shinn is a stuck up pretentious brat. someone kill him off please. can this show get back to being about kira and lacus. pleaseeeeeeeee
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Nov 22, 2011 1:57 AM
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The captain of the ship here is cool!
"Like I care! im not a politician!"

aelove said:
wtf is this hacks? this show is kind of ridiculous. why are they ruining cagallis character??? i dont care about all the political bullshit and shinn is a stuck up pretentious brat. someone kill him off please. can this show get back to being about kira and lacus. pleaseeeeeeeee


agree!!!! I want LacusxKira!!
May 9, 2013 9:29 PM
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I'm not feeling the romance in this series at all to be honest at this point. Well, at least Athrun is making his second coming.
Jun 14, 2013 10:57 AM
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Oh hey Shinn is in seed mode, I was wondering when that was going to happen. No I still don't care all that much for him yet, despite him basically single handedly almost destroying the whole Earth's fleet. He was an idiot anyways for getting caught by the mobile armor :P he should know that his safety comes first because he can't protect anyone when he's dead...

And more Cagalli being useless again. Seriously, if Yuna, and maybe most other people at Orb, think that Cagalli isn't competent enough to be the leader, why don't they just take her down? I hate that guy anyways, but it's just not cool lecturing the leader of a nation like that in front of everyone else so many times.

And we also have more random Kira screen time. He's so...gloomy all the time D: We get it, he doesn't like war, and he doesn't want another war to start. Is it completely necessary to have him show up twice in the episode for like 5 seconds each? But YES, Athrun in action again!!! Now I'm excited once again for Destiny! The last few episodes were okay, but seeing Athrun piloting Savior is <333
Jul 10, 2013 5:44 PM
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Shin went straight gangsta in this ep. Awesome!

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The first 10 minutes of the episode was terribly slow and boring.

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The captain of the ship here is cool!
"Like I care! im not a politician!"
I like him too ^^ He's the only one who doesn't want to side with the Atlantic/Earth Federation.

Finally we get to see Shinn's seed mode. About time we saw that again. And I hope we get to see more of Kira and Athrun soon as well.
Sep 12, 2014 12:01 AM

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So Shinn woke up and Athrun is on his way.

Next episode Kira wakes up, FINALLY.
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(rewatching)

I love the battle music that was playing as the drop started. I know I'll get to hear a lot more of it too :D

Athrun finally launched in the best gundam, Saviour.
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As much as I dislike Shinn, he was badass in this ep.
Was some pretty sweet Mobile Suit action here.
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The politics in this show...wish it was better executed but oh well, Shinn atleast was pretty badass in this episode.
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This show's driving me fucking insane, I swear.

Cagalli is surrounded by a bunch of vipers disguised as politicians, who are all trying to circumvent her authority as Princess for their own personal gain- to the point of scolding her like a child in the middle of a diplomatic meeting and attacking another nation's soldiers minutes after peacefully allowing them to leave their country. What the hell. Cagalli's trying to help Minerva, but for some reason after two years doing this job she still doesn't have the understanding or confidence to stand up to her cabinet.

Athrun isn't helping matters either, as rather than helping out his girlfriend during one of the most stressful problems of her life he's off basically joyriding as an ace pilot for ZAFT. I don't care whether the dead rebels were talking about your dad or Shinn was trashtalking you and your girlfriend. If anything, those two incidents should be inspiring you to prove just how different you are from your dad by standing beside the one you love, no matter what! You might not be able to see her all the time and you may not think you're doing much, but it'll give her more confidence to stand up to the mental, physical, and sexual assaults coming at her from all directions.

And Shinn... oh hell, where do I start with this messed-up kid. Having a suit called the "Impulse" definitely fits this guy, because that one word makes up half of his personality. He doesn't think at all, he puts no intelligence into any move he makes- even when he's in SEED Mode all his decisions are either spur-of-the-moment or battle instincts. He lashes out against superiors, friends, enemies and politicians from other fucking countries without a care whatsoever. Yes, his family died in front of him. But he doesn't try to move past that, instead he's stuck firmly in the past reliving that moment over and over again and lashing out over it against everyone else when they've suffered just as much as he has if not more. It's a wonder that he made as far he did, regardless of his skill, because his temperament makes Yzak look tame. Durandal probably plans to use him honestly, just like he's clearly planning to use Athrun and Meer.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm honestly looking forward to seeing Kira set these idiots straight. And I will have you know, last season Kira was one of my least favorite characters. That's just sad.
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This show's driving me fucking insane, I swear.

Cagalli is surrounded by a bunch of vipers disguised as politicians, who are all trying to circumvent her authority as Princess for their own personal gain- to the point of scolding her like a child in the middle of a diplomatic meeting and attacking another nation's soldiers minutes after peacefully allowing them to leave their country. What the hell. Cagalli's trying to help Minerva, but for some reason after two years doing this job she still doesn't have the understanding or confidence to stand up to her cabinet.

Athrun isn't helping matters either, as rather than helping out his girlfriend during one of the most stressful problems of her life he's off basically joyriding as an ace pilot for ZAFT. I don't care whether the dead rebels were talking about your dad or Shinn was trashtalking you and your girlfriend. If anything, those two incidents should be inspiring you to prove just how different you are from your dad by standing beside the one you love, no matter what! You might not be able to see her all the time and you may not think you're doing much, but it'll give her more confidence to stand up to the mental, physical, and sexual assaults coming at her from all directions.

And Shinn... oh hell, where do I start with this messed-up kid. Having a suit called the "Impulse" definitely fits this guy, because that one word makes up half of his personality. He doesn't think at all, he puts no intelligence into any move he makes- even when he's in SEED Mode all his decisions are either spur-of-the-moment or battle instincts. He lashes out against superiors, friends, enemies and politicians from other fucking countries without a care whatsoever. Yes, his family died in front of him. But he doesn't try to move past that, instead he's stuck firmly in the past reliving that moment over and over again and lashing out over it against everyone else when they've suffered just as much as he has if not more. It's a wonder that he made as far he did, regardless of his skill, because his temperament makes Yzak look tame. Durandal probably plans to use him honestly, just like he's clearly planning to use Athrun and Meer.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm honestly looking forward to seeing Kira set these idiots straight. And I will have you know, last season Kira was one of my least favorite characters. That's just sad.
Marry me please. Your perfectly summed up my feelings on the show so far.

Shinn is just a pain as a protagonist; I get that the repeated flashback is meant to represent how he keeps replaying the event in his head day in day out but the writers seemed to have completely forgotten to make me give a single flying fuck about this angsty ass kid or his struggle yet, and I'm saying this as someone who warmed up to and even appreciated Kamille fucking Bidan. I didn't like Kira that much in SEED but he was at the very least bearable, which is much more than I can say for Shinn.

On the other hand, if the writers' goal was to tell the story of a bunch of idiots and assholes fucking up again and again, then it's a success.
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Shinn: SEED Mode unlocked!!!
Altrun: Savior Gundam! Launch!!!!
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This episode pretty much sums up the entire series so far:
Kira moodily stares out at the beach.
Cagalli throws a tantrum.
Kira moodily stares out from his balcony.
Shinn screams at things.
Athrun changes sides.

And at the others complaining about Shinn-- I have to agree. Honestly Shinn could've been a MUCH more interesting protagonist but we're 12 episodes in and all I know about him is that his family died horribly and he hates Cagalli with all the angst of a wronged teenager.
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(Remastered version)

I've been noticing this for a while but now I can definitely tell. The remastered versions of the OPs, including season 1, and this new ED are getting lewder and lewder. Not that I hate them though. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Definitely Remasterbate version.

RIP Life Goes On though. Oh so this new ED is only for episodes 12-13. I thought this will be the new 2nd ED.
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Like him or not, Shin kicked some serious butt this episode. Damn bro!
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i don't know i'm really disliking how they handle characters in this show, from new ones like shinn, to the old ones like Kira and cagalli.
I presume this show will be a painful ride until the end.
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Shinn goes Seed Mode, destroys the crap out of the EF warships

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