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Apr 19, 9:56 AM
#1
Looks like the case still revolves the strange fires going around town. It was also a matter of time before Kobato gets connected to this case. Osani is also becoming more important again this season even though she's in a relationship right now. Tense vibes around the school and classrooms. This turns out lowkey to be one of the scarier arcs from this franchise imo. |
Apr 19, 10:26 AM
#2
This episode was TENSE. Someone needs to get ahold of Urino because he’s going down a dark path and his ambition and desire to impress Osanai could cost him everything! I did appreciate seeing him stand up to his senpai in the newspaper club just because so many anime show characters being so timid and deferential to people just because of their year difference. Even though he’s going about things wrong, I can appreciate a dude standing on business and not backing down just because of social norms, but no doubt he’s being a dick and messing up the chemistry of the club. Cockblocked by a piece of paper is crazy π Urino went in for that kiss instead of listening to Osanai and I think that’ll be the nail in the coffin for him. You don’t cut her off when she’s talking. The way she looked down on him when he reached down for that paper was horrifying, I’m concerned lol. Osanai might say she wants to be ordinary, but we know from last season that ain’t quite true. She does want others to be ordinary tho and clearly the last two guys in her life just can’t do it. I’m legit scared for Urino lol Now that Kobato involved I can’t wait to see how next ep goes |
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Apr 19, 11:46 AM
#3
RIP Urino, you will not be missed You Shouldn't have done that Kobato solves the case by discussing with Doima and that girl While Urino requires 3 months RIP Urino the Devils coming for you |
Apr 19, 11:47 AM
#5
Didn’t take Urino as someone who’d make a move like stealing a kiss, but our girl Osanai isn’t the type to just give that away so easily. Unfortunately for Urino, he still doesn’t get that Osanai isn’t looking for someone extraordinary—she just wants an ordinary person. But the poor kid can’t see that, blinded by love. Guess they’re going out now, huh? But it’s hard to tell what Osanai’s really up to—it’s like she’s the real boss of the anime. Nah, my man Kobato is getting cheated on behind his back, and Nakamaru is messing around with three dudes, including him? Don’t tell me this is real. That’s messed up. |
Apr 19, 11:53 AM
#6
Ok ignoring Nakamaru real quick Kobato is figuring everything out pretty quickly but I guess he didn't figure out his girlfriend has 3 timing him with 2 other guys. Now Nakamaru this girl wtf. I mean with how she asked him out but like really 2 other guys? damn. Sorry Kobato. Also Urino sorry but you are not him. Just a pawn. Osanai really has been involved with a lot of the newspaper club. I wonder what else is she going to do? |
Apr 19, 11:53 AM
#7
After what Urino did I don't think he's getting out alive. Osanai will 100% make him pay for it. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if all what Kobato thinks about his GF cheating on him is "Whatever, have to focus on Osanai". |
brutaka3Apr 19, 12:02 PM
Apr 19, 11:59 AM
#8
Urino messed up big time and Nakamura is indeed sus.Now Kobato is back being not ordinary and Osanai... I dread to think what she's planned.![]() |
Apr 19, 12:17 PM
#9
That kiss attempt must have really ticked her off lol Osanai was really looking down on him..scary π¨π¨ Urino should be glad that he ain't dead and that he still has his two balls inbetween his legs still intact ππ€£ F*ck Tokiko! When she already had two boyfriends, she was getting all jealous about Kobato still having feelings for Osanai. I really thought she was a good one for Kobato. Poor guy ππ It was so good to see Kobato back to being the detective like he used to. And as we all suspected, it's clear as a day now that Osanai was doing information manipulation and has something to do with the serial arson. Is it just to get Kobato's attention or something else !? ![]() ![]() |
Apr 19, 12:40 PM
#10
I feel like this season is lacking this cinematic vibe s1 has. Story is interesting, but still something is missing, idk what exactly tho |
Apr 19, 1:08 PM
#11
There is no way Osanai is the culprit. What are they even thinking, suspecting her like that. She had no reason to do that and its not her style either. Meanwhile, Osanai gets mad at Urino. Guy's in trouble now. |
yhagniApr 19, 1:16 PM
Apr 19, 2:20 PM
#12
Reply to Meveee
I feel like this season is lacking this cinematic vibe s1 has. Story is interesting, but still something is missing, idk what exactly tho
@Meveee Bro did we watch the same episode?? Look at this shot, the framing, the lighting, the choice of colors and the positioning of the characters in relation to each other. This show is so artsy, and that hasn't changed one bit since season 1 in my opinion. I'm sure the Monogatari-esque direction of the dialogue will amp up as well when we get to more climactic confrontations and exposures of the schemes etc. |
Apr 19, 3:52 PM
#13
Reply to Meveee
I feel like this season is lacking this cinematic vibe s1 has. Story is interesting, but still something is missing, idk what exactly tho
@Meveee I think season 01 was heavy on conveying the characters. The plot was important, but the cinematics you're referring to were heavy on expressing the minds and personalities of the characters. Season 02 seems to be far more focused on the plot since we developed a strong sense of the characters from season 01. |
Apr 19, 4:06 PM
#14
so she was this kind of girl, hummmm E3:8/10 |
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Apr 19, 5:16 PM
#15
Say goodbye to Urino, he screwed up trying to steal a kiss from Osanai. He pissed off the wrong person. If he wanted to be a reporter so badly, Osanai is about to show him what happens when reporters dig too deep. I was as shocked as Kengo when we found out that Kobato's girlfriend was seeing two other guys. And on top of that, she had the nerve to act toxic when Kobato was thinking about Osanai, what a bitchy broad. The whole bag girl thing seemed a bit rushed to me, like she was desperate to let Kobato know, which makes me think Osanai might have also stuck her nose in and influenced what the girl said. We don't know who the arsonist is yet, but if Osanai is involved, I don't think she's the one setting the fires; she'd probably manipulate someone else to do it for her. But honestly, it seems like everything she's doing is to get Kobato back. |
Apr 19, 5:20 PM
#16
Don't you worry, when reading the novel, I was as surprised as you guys when I read what Urino tryna do there. That's the moment where Kengo was the only character I can trust. |
Apr 19, 5:40 PM
#17
Osanai is one tricky bitch Hard to belief someone would be dating 3 guys at the same time |
Apr 19, 5:43 PM
#18
lots of revelations and strange interactions |
Apr 19, 5:59 PM
#19
all what i want to say already being said by all comment above me, so i guess i just want to say one thing : DOJIMA IS REALLY A GOOD SENPAI AND LEADER ππ |
Apr 19, 6:08 PM
#20
Arrogant prick redhead out of the picture and everybody's favorite Jougorou is finally back and now I'm finally locked back into the show... and yeah, very interested because WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN OUR BOY IS GETTING CUCKED BY NOT ONE DUDE, BUT TWO FUCKING DUDES xDDDDDDDD Our boy is just too nonchalant to care though, I mean, clearly Osani has done irreversible damage that something as little as this just doesn't affect him |
Apr 19, 6:31 PM
#21
Apr 19, 7:04 PM
#22
Why do I have the feeling in 2-3 eps our main two will be in some cafe together??? |
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Apr 19, 7:29 PM
#23
Kobato finally makes a move. |
Apr 19, 9:10 PM
#24
I wonder if there's some sort of link between Nakamura and Osanai? This is SO much more interesting than season one. Looking forward to next week. |
Apr 19, 9:49 PM
#25
Another great series in my top five. Perhaps the best animated one. The corruption on the school level is far more appealing then the normal High School routine. |
Apr 20, 12:26 AM
#26
Wow, Nakamaru Tokiko is player. I'm curious what happen nextπ€ Osanai Yuki and Nakamaru Tokiko are suspicious right now. Shoushimin is one of my favorite mystery anime, beside Hyouka and The Apothecary Diaries |
Apr 20, 1:20 AM
#27
i'm struggling to like this season but maybe a few characters getting offed will fix that, seems likely after what urino did. |
Apr 20, 3:27 AM
#28
I thought the first season was just OK, carried mostly by characters and visuals. Until the finale, which was great and bumped my rating up to 7+. Now this season ended where we left season 1, but with more tension and higher stakes. And this episode cranked it up even more (man, that downward look Osanai gave Urino after the attempted kiss steal was CRAZY scary). Rating bumped up another notch, solid 8 now. If it keeps up the show will go straight into my personal top 20. I'm so invested that I might pick up the LN, and I have NEVER read a LN in my life. |
Apr 20, 5:13 AM
#30
Okay, so Yuki is two timing both Jouji & Takahiko, and Tokiko is three timing Jougorou, a schoolmate, and a college student. Girls in this anime are truly ferocious. I mean, i expected so from Yuki since she's a downright psychopath, but Tokiko is an actual disappointment, i'm glad Jougorou doesn't give a single eff, but i already expected so. Since Jougorou don't appear to be the emotional type one bit, but the type to just hang out for fun, not do lovey-dovey stuff. In any case, i can see that both the newspaper club & Yuki are involved in the arsons, what i ain't aware of though, is that how Yuki is gonna be able to save herself from this situation. Since she's obviously either firebombing herself, or having an accomplice do it for her as to not dirty her own hands; and stay clean. She ain't as stupid as to do the former, but she's as smart as to do the latter, and if so, i truly pity whoever is being manipulated into doing so, doubly so if they're even in the newspaper club since they're just students. Unless they ain't a student and they're doing it of their own free will, then i don't pity one bit. In any case, curious as to know how long this case is gonna be, since the prequel had like a case for every episode, unlike this one which has a case that's been ongoing for three straight episodes so far, so really curious about when this case is actually ending, and who the actual culprits are. |
Apr 20, 6:54 AM
#31
With Urino publishing his piece into the Funado Monthly, it certainly is news to get their guidance counselor Nitta out of the picture, which was the big turnaround he was hoping to see. And as much as the credit is given to him, Dojima has to take matters into his hands by forcing Urino to reveal the trick of how he managed to trace the case, which other than it being from fire stations (which was private intel that he had thanks to his brother who's a firefighter), the Newspaper Club certainly dodged a rather heavy bullet based on the accusations they have, which came mostly from Urino himself. And between him and Monchi deciding who to succeed Dojima being president, Urino assumes being dependable to solve this case, but Osanai putting him in his place, and even going as far as to force a kiss on her, she can no longer depend on him anymore. Dojima's meeting with Kobato discussing about Osanai's affiliations to the Newspaper Club, the serial arson case though it may be related to her since it's the same van used in her abducting, the proof that it was set alight certainly set alarm bells ringing when both guys consult Yoshiguchi, which she spills the beans on both Osanai and Nakamaru dating, though in various extreme prepositions. For Kobato to claim that he can solve the case faster than Urino can do in 3 months, there's quite the competition coming up to see who can fo it first. |
Apr 20, 7:11 AM
#32
Apr 20, 7:59 AM
#33
New season is quite interesting in the dynamic setup with the audience and the protagonist knowing Osanai's true nature. Definite signs that Osanai is using multiple members of the Newspaper club to report on the arson incidents, but the scene with Urino clinches it for me that she feels can no longer trust Urino to be controlled. Combined with the scene from the previous episode where she was comparing Urino to the sugar in the glace dessert, covering up her "true" nature, it seems to me she was hoping to use him to erase the past crime she committed in framing the girls bullying her. But now that he is clearly moving into his own motivations and can no longer be controlled, it seems she was threatening him in her own way. Similar to what Kobato suspects, doing the arsons by herself are not Yuki's style, but I don't put it past her for manipulating a 3rd party who is setting the fires, just so she could destroy the last evidence (the Van) linking her to the "fake" kidnapping. Really fun watch so far. |
Apr 20, 8:52 AM
#34
This episode was so tense! And it ended just as it was getting to the good part, too! >< There were quite a few gorgeous shots. I particularly appreciated the scene in the hallway, with the sunset. |
Apr 20, 4:43 PM
#35
Nah, Kobato being cucked wasn't in my plans... The best thing that can happen to him is to be left alone. It's incredible how the episode improves when he appears, I think he's very charismatic, Urino will end up dead or in jail for sure! |
Apr 20, 4:48 PM
#36
"That's not right. When someone asks you to listen, you listen." This should make your blood run ice cold, but the guy listening has absolutely no clue. "You're going to impress me, right?" His fate is sealed. The case becomes more sprawling and strange with every episode. Liking this season. |
Apr 21, 2:55 AM
#37
this anime is soo strange. It looks very good, i like that they explain the characters. But they are all weird tbh. |
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Apr 21, 6:51 AM
#38
glad to see Jogoro again. About time |
Apr 21, 7:20 AM
#39
My only forum post today, however I really like this episode, alot of cool stuff relating to the newspaper club and apparently like fucking Osanai is the arsonist? And she's got 3 boyfirends and once she a con artist dude and Kengo resigned from the Newspaper club, One hell of an episode If i do say so myself. |
Apr 21, 12:14 PM
#40
landofthekwt said: Osanai is one tricky bitch Hard to belief someone would be dating 3 guys at the same time I could be wrong your comment seems to imply Osanai is dating three guys when it's not true. |
Apr 21, 1:55 PM
#41
osanai might be the best written psychopath in anime the past few years she is not even on screen but you can feel something is happening behind the scene the way she manipulates urino, those two side guys and even dojima is perfect |
Apr 21, 4:06 PM
#42
Rewatched Season 2, episode 2 and realized that the list of names that Osanai slipped to Urino at the end of the cafe visit had the name of the guidance counselor highlighted. This would suggest that she was the one who arranged for the counselor to be released by the school between eps. 2 & 3. I also suspect that it may have been the same guidance counselor that called her into the office (twice) in Season 1 when her bicycle was stolen. No way she would let that offense slip by without some sort of retribution (even if it was an adult). I also think that Osanai has been manipulating Urino's friend Hiya as well, since he was the one to suggest looking into the fires in the first place, as well as suggesting that Urino should write up 2 versions of the newspaper article with the possibility that a sudden change in circumstances could happen. Osanai even gives Urino warning at the end of episode 2 that he shouldn't continue to pursuing naughtiness (which could be interpreted as warning him to stop writing about the fires), then again warns him this episode that he should listen when someone is telling him something. She finally emphasizes this point by offering him the book receipt as a reminder, but which Urino will think it's a reminder of the attempted stolen kiss. She, of course, intentionally drops it on the floor to make him pick it up as a threat, but the boy can't see through her true nature. Really excellent character development for Osanai. I personally don't think she's "evil" per se, but her true nature is that she cannot let offenses against her go. She wants to be "ordinary", and is trying to take steps to be perceived as such, but can't let go of her true nature. |
Apr 21, 7:18 PM
#43
Reply to cereal_killer6
landofthekwt said:
Osanai is one tricky bitch Hard to belief someone would be dating 3 guys at the same time
Osanai is one tricky bitch Hard to belief someone would be dating 3 guys at the same time
I could be wrong your comment seems to imply Osanai is dating three guys when it's not true.
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Apr 21, 9:56 PM
#44
Reply to mostholy2
Rewatched Season 2, episode 2 and realized that the list of names that Osanai slipped to Urino at the end of the cafe visit had the name of the guidance counselor highlighted. This would suggest that she was the one who arranged for the counselor to be released by the school between eps. 2 & 3. I also suspect that it may have been the same guidance counselor that called her into the office (twice) in Season 1 when her bicycle was stolen. No way she would let that offense slip by without some sort of retribution (even if it was an adult).
I also think that Osanai has been manipulating Urino's friend Hiya as well, since he was the one to suggest looking into the fires in the first place, as well as suggesting that Urino should write up 2 versions of the newspaper article with the possibility that a sudden change in circumstances could happen.
Osanai even gives Urino warning at the end of episode 2 that he shouldn't continue to pursuing naughtiness (which could be interpreted as warning him to stop writing about the fires), then again warns him this episode that he should listen when someone is telling him something. She finally emphasizes this point by offering him the book receipt as a reminder, but which Urino will think it's a reminder of the attempted stolen kiss. She, of course, intentionally drops it on the floor to make him pick it up as a threat, but the boy can't see through her true nature.
Really excellent character development for Osanai. I personally don't think she's "evil" per se, but her true nature is that she cannot let offenses against her go. She wants to be "ordinary", and is trying to take steps to be perceived as such, but can't let go of her true nature.
I also think that Osanai has been manipulating Urino's friend Hiya as well, since he was the one to suggest looking into the fires in the first place, as well as suggesting that Urino should write up 2 versions of the newspaper article with the possibility that a sudden change in circumstances could happen.
Osanai even gives Urino warning at the end of episode 2 that he shouldn't continue to pursuing naughtiness (which could be interpreted as warning him to stop writing about the fires), then again warns him this episode that he should listen when someone is telling him something. She finally emphasizes this point by offering him the book receipt as a reminder, but which Urino will think it's a reminder of the attempted stolen kiss. She, of course, intentionally drops it on the floor to make him pick it up as a threat, but the boy can't see through her true nature.
Really excellent character development for Osanai. I personally don't think she's "evil" per se, but her true nature is that she cannot let offenses against her go. She wants to be "ordinary", and is trying to take steps to be perceived as such, but can't let go of her true nature.
mostholy2 said: This would suggest that she was the one who arranged for the counselor to be released by the school between eps. 2 & 3. Huh, I haven't thought of that. I did wonder why she slipped that piece of paper last episode, though. It was definitely weird that Urino's friend specifically told Urino to anticipate "a change in circumstances"; re-watching that scene, he even called it "fortune-telling." It makes a lot of sense if he already had a good idea about how to get rid of the teacher, possibly from sharing information and plans with Osanai. But would Osanai have that kind of influence, even on the school staff? That's a little hard to believe... mostholy2 said: I also think that Osanai has been manipulating Urino's friend Hiya as well Same. I'm now more certain that he's the arsonist. Some characters are now starting to suspect Osanai, and I think the show is setting up the twist that she's in fact not the culprit. I think Urino's friend started the first few fires because he wanted to help Urino write his news articles. (He may have had his own reasons, too.) Then Osanai somehow learned about this and decided to insert herself into the case as a "criminal consultant," encouraging him and making suggestions like the fire station pattern. She also snuck in the van from the abduction case to catch Kobato's attention. mostholy2 said: Osanai even gives Urino warning at the end of episode 2 that he shouldn't continue to pursuing naughtiness (which could be interpreted as warning him to stop writing about the fires) Agreed. I think she's starting to get annoyed with Urino drawing way too much attention to himself, and by extension Osanai herself. She achieved her objective of burying the kidnapping case and had her fun manipulating all those people in the newspaper club, and now she's not particularly interested in sticking with this arson case that's getting way too overblown. And despite what she says, I think she dislikes over-enthusiastic people, especially dumb and reckless ones. Her final, "you will impress me, right?" comment tells me that she plans to enjoy watching Urino run the whole situation into the ground. She'll be extra entertained if he gets in trouble in the process, or even wrongfully accused. mostholy2 said: I personally don't think she's "evil" per se, but her true nature is that she cannot let offenses against her go. She wants to be "ordinary", and is trying to take steps to be perceived as such, but can't let go of her true nature. I don't think she really wants to be ordinary. She wants to appear ordinary, while she still does underhanded things to get her way and be entertained. I may be misremembering Season 1, but I think this is a part of why Kobato decided to split with Osanai. He really did want to be ordinary, by staying out of trouble and resisting temptation. But he realized that Osanai had no real intention of doing that. |
Apr 22, 12:59 AM
#45
OSANAI DID NOTHING WRONG!!! lowk Osanai is one of the best written characters i've seen in a long time and she's the best villain oty so far imo. ![]() |
Apr 22, 2:15 AM
#46
Finally kobato-kun is in the game again, I was missing him in this three episodes... And damn, like they say in brazil, the cuck is always the last to known he is being cheated... not only one, but TWO |
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Apr 22, 7:17 AM
#47
Reply to perseii
mostholy2 said:
This would suggest that she was the one who arranged for the counselor to be released by the school between eps. 2 & 3.
This would suggest that she was the one who arranged for the counselor to be released by the school between eps. 2 & 3.
Huh, I haven't thought of that. I did wonder why she slipped that piece of paper last episode, though.
It was definitely weird that Urino's friend specifically told Urino to anticipate "a change in circumstances"; re-watching that scene, he even called it "fortune-telling." It makes a lot of sense if he already had a good idea about how to get rid of the teacher, possibly from sharing information and plans with Osanai.
But would Osanai have that kind of influence, even on the school staff? That's a little hard to believe...
mostholy2 said:
I also think that Osanai has been manipulating Urino's friend Hiya as well
I also think that Osanai has been manipulating Urino's friend Hiya as well
Same. I'm now more certain that he's the arsonist. Some characters are now starting to suspect Osanai, and I think the show is setting up the twist that she's in fact not the culprit.
I think Urino's friend started the first few fires because he wanted to help Urino write his news articles. (He may have had his own reasons, too.) Then Osanai somehow learned about this and decided to insert herself into the case as a "criminal consultant," encouraging him and making suggestions like the fire station pattern. She also snuck in the van from the abduction case to catch Kobato's attention.
mostholy2 said:
Osanai even gives Urino warning at the end of episode 2 that he shouldn't continue to pursuing naughtiness (which could be interpreted as warning him to stop writing about the fires)
Osanai even gives Urino warning at the end of episode 2 that he shouldn't continue to pursuing naughtiness (which could be interpreted as warning him to stop writing about the fires)
Agreed. I think she's starting to get annoyed with Urino drawing way too much attention to himself, and by extension Osanai herself.
She achieved her objective of burying the kidnapping case and had her fun manipulating all those people in the newspaper club, and now she's not particularly interested in sticking with this arson case that's getting way too overblown.
And despite what she says, I think she dislikes over-enthusiastic people, especially dumb and reckless ones.
Her final, "you will impress me, right?" comment tells me that she plans to enjoy watching Urino run the whole situation into the ground. She'll be extra entertained if he gets in trouble in the process, or even wrongfully accused.
mostholy2 said:
I personally don't think she's "evil" per se, but her true nature is that she cannot let offenses against her go. She wants to be "ordinary", and is trying to take steps to be perceived as such, but can't let go of her true nature.
I personally don't think she's "evil" per se, but her true nature is that she cannot let offenses against her go. She wants to be "ordinary", and is trying to take steps to be perceived as such, but can't let go of her true nature.
I don't think she really wants to be ordinary. She wants to appear ordinary, while she still does underhanded things to get her way and be entertained.
I may be misremembering Season 1, but I think this is a part of why Kobato decided to split with Osanai. He really did want to be ordinary, by staying out of trouble and resisting temptation. But he realized that Osanai had no real intention of doing that.
@perseii perseii said: Yes, totally agree she wants to "appear" ordinary and has no intention of changing her true nature. The funny thing is that she's been (up to now) successful in appearing ordinary based on Tokiko's description of her to Kobato in which she thought that Osanai was "dull". Kengo on the other hand, was clearly suspecting Osanai manipulating members of the newspaper club to start reporting on the fires and now has that confirmation from Kobato, so knows she is not "ordinary".I don't think she really wants to be ordinary. She wants to appear ordinary, while she still does underhanded things to get her way and be entertained. perseii said: I actually think that a bigger reason he decided to split with Osanai (actually it seemed pretty mutual), was because he couldn't deal with her framing the bully girls for a crime they didn't really commit and manipulating him as part of her plans. I'm also not quite sure that Kobato truly wants to be "ordinary". He definitely takes steps towards trying not to engage in these mysteries, but I don't think he can really change his true nature. I still hold that Kengo has been actively trying to challenge Kobato to keep true to his "true" self, and discouraging him from treading the path of the "ordinary". I may be misremembering Season 1, but I think this is a part of why Kobato decided to split with Osanai. He really did want to be ordinary, by staying out of trouble and resisting temptation. But he realized that Osanai had no real intention of doing that. |
Apr 22, 11:25 AM
#48
Reply to mostholy2
@perseii
perseii said:
I don't think she really wants to be ordinary. She wants to appear ordinary, while she still does underhanded things to get her way and be entertained.
Yes, totally agree she wants to "appear" ordinary and has no intention of changing her true nature. The funny thing is that she's been (up to now) successful in appearing ordinary based on Tokiko's description of her to Kobato in which she thought that Osanai was "dull". Kengo on the other hand, was clearly suspecting Osanai manipulating members of the newspaper club to start reporting on the fires and now has that confirmation from Kobato, so knows she is not "ordinary".I don't think she really wants to be ordinary. She wants to appear ordinary, while she still does underhanded things to get her way and be entertained.
perseii said:
I may be misremembering Season 1, but I think this is a part of why Kobato decided to split with Osanai. He really did want to be ordinary, by staying out of trouble and resisting temptation. But he realized that Osanai had no real intention of doing that.
I actually think that a bigger reason he decided to split with Osanai (actually it seemed pretty mutual), was because he couldn't deal with her framing the bully girls for a crime they didn't really commit and manipulating him as part of her plans. I'm also not quite sure that Kobato truly wants to be "ordinary". He definitely takes steps towards trying not to engage in these mysteries, but I don't think he can really change his true nature. I still hold that Kengo has been actively trying to challenge Kobato to keep true to his "true" self, and discouraging him from treading the path of the "ordinary". I may be misremembering Season 1, but I think this is a part of why Kobato decided to split with Osanai. He really did want to be ordinary, by staying out of trouble and resisting temptation. But he realized that Osanai had no real intention of doing that.
mostholy2 said: Kengo on the other hand, was clearly suspecting Osanai manipulating members of the newspaper club to start reporting on the fires and now has that confirmation from Kobato, so knows she is not "ordinary". Just want to remind you that Kengo was there during the "rescue operation" for the abduction case. I think he already knew that she's someone devious and dangerous. Maybe he's not fully aware of the depths of her "evil," but we see him seriously considering the possibility of Osanai setting fires. What's interesting to me is the fact that Osanai would already know what Kengo thinks about her... mostholy2 said: I actually think that a bigger reason he decided to split with Osanai (actually it seemed pretty mutual), was because he couldn't deal with her framing the bully girls for a crime they didn't really commit and manipulating him as part of her plans. Yeah for sure. I did say "a part of the reason." Kobato might not be able to change his nature, sure, but I think he genuinely wants to and is giving it his best. Which I think is an important difference between the two characters. He just keeps getting tempted and dragged back into things. It's probably Osanai's biggest goal for doing all of this; to intrigue and provoke Kobato. Which is frankly insane and disturbing (and also fascinating to watch). |
Apr 22, 4:03 PM
#49
Reply to perseii
mostholy2 said:
Kengo on the other hand, was clearly suspecting Osanai manipulating members of the newspaper club to start reporting on the fires and now has that confirmation from Kobato, so knows she is not "ordinary".
Kengo on the other hand, was clearly suspecting Osanai manipulating members of the newspaper club to start reporting on the fires and now has that confirmation from Kobato, so knows she is not "ordinary".
Just want to remind you that Kengo was there during the "rescue operation" for the abduction case. I think he already knew that she's someone devious and dangerous. Maybe he's not fully aware of the depths of her "evil," but we see him seriously considering the possibility of Osanai setting fires.
What's interesting to me is the fact that Osanai would already know what Kengo thinks about her...
mostholy2 said:
I actually think that a bigger reason he decided to split with Osanai (actually it seemed pretty mutual), was because he couldn't deal with her framing the bully girls for a crime they didn't really commit and manipulating him as part of her plans.
I actually think that a bigger reason he decided to split with Osanai (actually it seemed pretty mutual), was because he couldn't deal with her framing the bully girls for a crime they didn't really commit and manipulating him as part of her plans.
Yeah for sure. I did say "a part of the reason."
Kobato might not be able to change his nature, sure, but I think he genuinely wants to and is giving it his best. Which I think is an important difference between the two characters.
He just keeps getting tempted and dragged back into things. It's probably Osanai's biggest goal for doing all of this; to intrigue and provoke Kobato. Which is frankly insane and disturbing (and also fascinating to watch).
@perseii perseii said: Just want to remind you that Kengo was there during the "rescue operation" for the abduction case. I think he already knew that she's someone devious and dangerous. Maybe he's not fully aware of the depths of her "evil," but we see him seriously considering the possibility of Osanai setting fires. Kengo was part of the "rescue operation", but even Kobato didn't fully know about Osanai's involvement in manipulating the situation to cause the bully girl group to abduct her, then stage it so they would be framed for kidnapping with intent to ransom, until she basically revealed it to him during their "break up". Kengo wasn't part of that discussion, so I don't believe he knew about her machinations even though he did "rescue" her. But Kengo's clearly starting to understand how manipulative Osanai is with the realization of how much she has been influencing multiple members of the Newspaper club (including himself). Totally agree he was definitely seriously considering that she was setting the fires. I'm really enjoying this season and hope that the payoff reveal for what has been going on meets the hype that's been building up. |
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