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Dec 30, 2024 4:23 AM
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How hard the ecchi will be? And how about the censorship?
Dec 30, 2024 4:42 AM
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It’s anime not hentai. Put some pants on!
Dec 30, 2024 4:50 AM
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It’s anime not hentai. Put some pants on!
@FutoiOtaku considering we just had 2.5 ririsa with censorship his question is legitimate.
Dec 30, 2024 5:10 AM
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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku considering we just had 2.5 ririsa with censorship his question is legitimate.

I’m not against ecchi but the desperation shown for a few 2D butts and boobs is pretty embarrassing. And why do you use the word censorship? It’s directorial choice. If a studio choose a particular level of nudity to be shown at prime time in Japan, that is a financial decision not censorship.
Dec 30, 2024 5:20 AM
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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku considering we just had 2.5 ririsa with censorship his question is legitimate.

I’m not against ecchi but the desperation shown for a few 2D butts and boobs is pretty embarrassing. And why do you use the word censorship? It’s directorial choice. If a studio choose a particular level of nudity to be shown at prime time in Japan, that is a financial decision not censorship.
@FutoiOtaku if said scene show nudity in the manga and not in the anime adaptation it's censorship plain and simple regardless the reason why it's done it. In the case of 2.5 the nudity was high time high in the early volumes to be dropped later on but on the adaptation they did the beginning like how it is since volume 6 so it's censorship regardless of what the director choose to do it. If they would have done with it steam to later remove them for the Blu Ray but we won't even have that.
Dec 30, 2024 5:42 AM
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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku if said scene show nudity in the manga and not in the anime adaptation it's censorship plain and simple regardless the reason why it's done it. In the case of 2.5 the nudity was high time high in the early volumes to be dropped later on but on the adaptation they did the beginning like how it is since volume 6 so it's censorship regardless of what the director choose to do it. If they would have done with it steam to later remove them for the Blu Ray but we won't even have that.

I agree in principle that a direct adaptation would be best, but that is not achievable in the real world. They do the best they can. And no, there is NO CENSORSHIP! It is only censorship when steam effects and light beams or simple black oblongs are used to cover things. The choice not to include things that may affect the age rating enough to reduce viewer numbers is NOT CENSORSHIP. Read a dictionary. It is simply altering the content. Adding an anime-only ending to a show is not censorship, it’s directing. Reducing nudity is the same. I would prefer if it was censored so that the uncensored version could be released on blu ray, but my quibble isn’t your disappointment but your misuse of the word censorship.
Dec 30, 2024 6:46 AM
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@FutoiOtaku Obfuscating your censorship is still censorship and always will be. Putting a black bar on a character is censorship but putting an even bigger piece of clothing in place of a black bar is not censorship? This is crazy talk. You think its ok because they are doing it to meet some sort of tv guidelines or age ratings? That is the very definition of censorship then. A system in which an authority limits the ideas that people are allowed to express and prevents books, films, works of art, documents, or other kinds of communication from being seen or made available to the public, because they include or support certain ideas. You can say its their own decision to perform this censorship to fit inside of the system, but its still censorship, and a much much more offensive form of censorship than just using light beams or black bars, because its censorship that insults the viewers intelligence by pretending to not be censorship.

I’m not wasting any more time on this, your views are impractical and extreme and could not be adopted in reality without also allowing political and religious extremism, child porn and snuff videos to flood mainstream internet services. And again, you don’t understand the definition of censorship. If this was an example of such, the source material would be banned. It is an editorial decision to access a wider audience through small adjustments to the source whilst not changing the narrative in any way. Basically the nudity is relegated to the viewers’ imagination. Please don’t overreact so much, you can still read the manga.
And I’m not on the side of sanitising anime, I would watch a true adaptation gladly, I just live in the real world and understand how businesses work.
Dec 30, 2024 9:29 AM
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^I mean I don't agree fully with everything either one here is saying but, yeah..."altering it" in your own words is censoring when the altering is removing something. And of the two views here yours is definitely the more extreme. It's rated pg13 that's why they pulled back a little, and it was relatively little, on the nudity if it was even necessary since I'm not sure if they even show nipples in the manga. Covering the manga fully even if it has to be rated R, would not suddenly enable the slew of extreme media you suggested. And if you think those things haven't already flooded the Internet you're in for a surprise.
Dec 30, 2024 1:28 PM
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FutoiOtaku said:
It’s anime not hentai. Put some pants on!

"It’s anime not comedy, if you want to watch something funny watch standup" that’s how you sound, and yes it is censorship
Dec 30, 2024 2:19 PM

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niconiconii27 said:
@FutoiOtaku Obfuscating your censorship is still censorship and always will be. Putting a black bar on a character is censorship but putting an even bigger piece of clothing in place of a black bar is not censorship? This is crazy talk. You think its ok because they are doing it to meet some sort of tv guidelines or age ratings? That is the very definition of censorship then. A system in which an authority limits the ideas that people are allowed to express and prevents books, films, works of art, documents, or other kinds of communication from being seen or made available to the public, because they include or support certain ideas. You can say its their own decision to perform this censorship to fit inside of the system, but its still censorship, and a much much more offensive form of censorship than just using light beams or black bars, because its censorship that insults the viewers intelligence by pretending to not be censorship.

"oh my lord, how dare they transform a literary work that's composed of multiple parts other than the fact that there is nudity that would be inappropriate for children and sensitive audiences, all of whom would have access to the streaming platforms said transformed work would stream on? It is outrageous that I won't be able to see softcore or out right pornographic levels of nudity on a show that's not porn. By commercializing a product that might still be plenty titillating in order to make money and make the whole endeavor worthwhile, they are insulting my intelligence. This is equivalent to the book burnings."

Call it censorship if you want, technical terms or whatever. What's pathetic is your dismay at the proposition of there being "censorship". As in hating people for not drawing anime ass on a string for you, but putting panties on them cheeks and maybe a veil. The humanity...
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one of the favorites it seems! recommended
This protagonist isn’t weak, and the harem is well-defined.
There are a few little controversies, haha, but the protagonist knows how to be ethical.
This anime is going to be a lot of fun!
Jan 4, 6:35 AM
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Just read manga and you will see how much ecchi is.
To say on short version: the level is low
Jan 7, 2:36 AM
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not enough to make your pen hard
Jan 9, 8:24 AM
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i think it will show nothing
Jan 9, 10:52 AM
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It is Censored. They should removed the Ecchi tags with this kind of anime. It is misleading.
Jan 9, 1:06 PM

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No, this isn't ecchi and it baffles me that something like this got it (even if by mistake) while something like Sono Bisque Doll should have the tag but has never been added.
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one of the favorites it seems! recommended
This protagonist isn’t weak, and the harem is well-defined.
There are a few little controversies, haha, but the protagonist knows how to be ethical.
This anime is going to be a lot of fun!
@Mari_Marx Looking forward to it ;)
Jan 9, 4:32 PM
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I've read the manga and it not that ecchi of a series I'm surprised it was tag ecchi
Jan 11, 6:12 AM
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The ecchi tag was removed
Jan 11, 8:23 AM

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Otakupervert890 said:
@FutoiOtaku considering we just had 2.5 ririsa with censorship his question is legitimate.

I’m not against ecchi but the desperation shown for a few 2D butts and boobs is pretty embarrassing. And why do you use the word censorship? It’s directorial choice. If a studio choose a particular level of nudity to be shown at prime time in Japan, that is a financial decision not censorship.
@FutoiOtaku Directorial choice of censorship. i find it funny that you came to this thread of someone asking a question and made fun of them without adressing the actual question.Sad.

But ye to actually answer the question for anyone that might see this thread in the future, anime is obviously censored yes.
Jan 11, 9:56 AM
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LoneWizzy said:
@FutoiOtaku Directorial choice of censorship. i find it funny that you came to this thread of someone asking a question and made fun of them without adressing the actual question.Sad.

But ye to actually answer the question for anyone that might see this thread in the future, anime is obviously censored yes.

Your opinion does not equate to fact. Read the whole thread again, and read a dictionary definition of censorship. Your infantile declaration that it is censorship because you say so based on no truth whatsoever is the sad thing here.
Jan 28, 11:10 PM

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It is kind of weird for me to ptw something for ecchi tag, and notice its removal. Can't say I am not surprised given the war on lewd content in fiction. Series seems ok overall so far. It is kind of refreshing having a manga based anime with its source material actually completed.
Jan 30, 4:19 PM
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removing something sexy from the manga to make the anime to make "more appropriate" for TV is censorship, end of story

the director didn't write or draw the manga/LN, its not HIS work, he just more or less gets to choose what to adapt
Jan 30, 4:31 PM
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EcchiGodMamster said:
removing something sexy from the manga to make the anime to make "more appropriate" for TV is censorship, end of story

the director didn't write or draw the manga/LN, its not HIS work, he just more or less gets to choose what to adapt

Your opinions are not facts. Read a dictionary.
Jan 30, 5:10 PM
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EcchiGodMamster said:
removing something sexy from the manga to make the anime to make "more appropriate" for TV is censorship, end of story

the director didn't write or draw the manga/LN, its not HIS work, he just more or less gets to choose what to adapt

Your opinions are not facts. Read a dictionary.
@FutoiOtaku

cen·sorship
/ˈsensərˌSHip/

1. the suppression or prohibition of any PARTS of books, films, news, etc. that are considered OBSCENE, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.


if this isn't EXACTLY why fanservice/ecchi gets removed or toned down, then you're a troll and just happy it's happening
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Fortunately because of production value but unfortunately anyway, the series has ecchi--.
Mene, mene, tekel, parsin
Jan 30, 5:23 PM
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EcchiGodMamster said:
@FutoiOtaku

cen·sorship
/ˈsensərˌSHip/

1. the suppression or prohibition of any PARTS of books, films, news, etc. that are considered OBSCENE, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.


if this isn't EXACTLY why fanservice/ecchi gets removed or toned down, then you're a troll and just happy it's happening

No part of either the source or the anime have been legally prohibited or suppressed, the actual meaning of censorship as you pointed out. Under Japanese law, it is legal to show any sexual act or nudity with the genitalia obscured in printed and moving media. Anything allowed in the manga/ light novel is also allowed in the anime. The choice to adapt the anime to allow showing in a more lucrative time slot IS NOT CENSORSHIP, it is adaptation. You can never prove your point because you don’t have one.
Jan 30, 5:28 PM
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@FutoiOtaku

cen·sorship
/ˈsensərˌSHip/

1. the suppression or prohibition of any PARTS of books, films, news, etc. that are considered OBSCENE, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.


if this isn't EXACTLY why fanservice/ecchi gets removed or toned down, then you're a troll and just happy it's happening

No part of either the source or the anime have been legally prohibited or suppressed, the actual meaning of censorship as you pointed out. Under Japanese law, it is legal to show any sexual act or nudity with the genitalia obscured in printed and moving media. Anything allowed in the manga/ light novel is also allowed in the anime. The choice to adapt the anime to allow showing in a more lucrative time slot IS NOT CENSORSHIP, it is adaptation. You can never prove your point because you don’t have one.
FutoiOtaku said:
No part of either the source or the anime have been legally prohibited or suppressed, the actual meaning of censorship as you pointed out. Under Japanese law, it is legal to show any sexual act or nudity with the genitalia obscured in printed and moving media. Anything allowed in the manga/ light novel is also allowed in the anime. The choice to adapt the anime to allow showing in a more lucrative time slot IS NOT CENSORSHIP, it is adaptation. You can never prove your point because you don’t have one.


nothing is stopping those in control from airing it at a later time slot or date, nor does the time slot necessarily change whether or not something gets removed

for example, the scene with Yoruichi and Orihime's boobs in Bleach TYBW was IN THE CORRECT TIMESLOT, but Tite Kubo was told "it's too lewd", Rukia's bare ass was also cut out to show Ichigo's face... meanwhile in the same fucking show there are people getting bloodily split in half and beheaded

i have even more examples

so get the fuck outta here

its 200% censorship and a double standard against sexual content of female characters, its simple... people complain far less about violence than they do sexual content of female characters and you know it
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EcchiGodMamster said:
FutoiOtaku said:
No part of either the source or the anime have been legally prohibited or suppressed, the actual meaning of censorship as you pointed out. Under Japanese law, it is legal to show any sexual act or nudity with the genitalia obscured in printed and moving media. Anything allowed in the manga/ light novel is also allowed in the anime. The choice to adapt the anime to allow showing in a more lucrative time slot IS NOT CENSORSHIP, it is adaptation. You can never prove your point because you don’t have one.


nothing is stopping those in control from airing it at a later time slot or date, nor does the time slot necessarily change whether or not something gets removed

for example, the scene with Yoruichi and Orihime's boobs in Bleach TYBW was IN THE CORRECT TIMESLOT, but Tite Kubo was told "it's too lewd", Rukia's bare ass was also cut out to show Ichigo's face... meanwhile in the same fucking show there are people getting bloodily split in half and beheaded

get the fuck outta here

its 200% censorship and a double standard against sexual content of female characters, its simple... people complain far less about violence than they do sexual content of female characters and you know it

All of that is correct, and I agree that false standards were applied. But that is not censorship, just poor judgement applied badly. I’m not continuing with this discussion as I agree with your principles, just not your incorrect terminology. Out.
Jan 30, 5:36 PM
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FutoiOtaku said:
No part of either the source or the anime have been legally prohibited or suppressed, the actual meaning of censorship as you pointed out. Under Japanese law, it is legal to show any sexual act or nudity with the genitalia obscured in printed and moving media. Anything allowed in the manga/ light novel is also allowed in the anime. The choice to adapt the anime to allow showing in a more lucrative time slot IS NOT CENSORSHIP, it is adaptation. You can never prove your point because you don’t have one.


nothing is stopping those in control from airing it at a later time slot or date, nor does the time slot necessarily change whether or not something gets removed

for example, the scene with Yoruichi and Orihime's boobs in Bleach TYBW was IN THE CORRECT TIMESLOT, but Tite Kubo was told "it's too lewd", Rukia's bare ass was also cut out to show Ichigo's face... meanwhile in the same fucking show there are people getting bloodily split in half and beheaded

get the fuck outta here

its 200% censorship and a double standard against sexual content of female characters, its simple... people complain far less about violence than they do sexual content of female characters and you know it

All of that is correct, and I agree that false standards were applied. But that is not censorship, just poor judgement applied badly. I’m not continuing with this discussion as I agree with your principles, just not your incorrect terminology. Out.
FutoiOtaku said:
All of that is correct, and I agree that false standards were applied. But that is not censorship, just poor judgement applied badly. I’m not continuing with this discussion as I agree with your principles, just not your incorrect terminology. Out.


it IS "censorship", it was removed because its considered too inappropriate for TV, which falls under the "obscene" category
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Not again, I’m actually trying to watch anime! TYBW was made for the early evening time slot and the producers were told that an assortment of scenes were too violent or sexual. In most cases the injury detail was the issue, ie Hiyori cut in half, Szayelapporo eating Lumina alive, Jidanbo’s arm being cut off etc. They had to choose between a later showing or less graphic content. It was not censored as it broke no laws, but was not appropriate for its chosen audience if adapted faithfully from the manga.
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I don't know, but in general, compared to Kuro no Shoukanshi and Isekai Nonbiri Nouka, there's no censorship and the logical sense doesn't suffer. Yes sex is not shown, but for example in the frst episode the scene is staged in such a way that it is clear that sex was.
В Isekai Nonbiri Nouka they cut out even a mention of it, but they did show the main character's child, in Kuro no Shoukanshi in general, sex was replaced by friendship, and the battle maniac main character suddenly began to spare his enemies.

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