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Apr 6, 2024 6:21 PM
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In the time in between this show getting announced and it coming out this week, there’s one topic I’ve seen people continuously mention. “Why does the main character look like that,” and “is he gay,” stuff like that. But one question I’ve not seen anyone actually ask that I do think could be an interesting discussion is, what audience is this show actually aiming for? I think the answer is pretty clear (and I’ll explain what I mean in a non trolling way). I think it’s for the same audience of general otaku that enjoy works like Mushoku Tensei (Jobless Reincarnation) as well as That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime. In fact the title of this show is even very similar to those two shows (This show, Reincarnated as the Seventh Prince uses the same Japanese word structure for the title as the Slime one).

Despite how obvious I think the audience is, I’ve seen lots of people who seem to say this show is aiming for an audience who is attracted to male characters, of the… young variety. Simply put, people who really really like “Shota”. However I do believe there is a certain amount of criteria that a show needs to meet in order to appeal to that audience. I believe that, in order for a show to be going for that audience, the show would need to fufill the following criteria:

1. Be focused on a cast of multiple young “shota” characters: In the same way that a fan service show of girl characters has multiple “cute girls”, I believe there would need to be multiple young male characters in this show. Simply put, there is not. There is the main character and then… no other young males. There’s lots of beautiful and attractive women in maid outfits and the like, though. The closest I can think of for a second young male for that audience to enjoy is… uh Grim I guess since he has a human form later in the manga who is a shirtless teen-ish looking boy. However for any audience member to be attracted to Grim that would require them to be quite down for furries, because Grim is in one of his multiple furry forms just about 90% of the time. So I’m gonna rule him out as being a second character made for that audience. That just leave the main character as the only young male character. Moving on,

2. The second criteria a show would need to do in order to be for shota fans, is have at least a couple scenes where the young male character(s) are being flirty or romantic with others. So, does this show have any scenes like that with Lloyd? No. I’ve read the manga, I would describe Lloyd as being ace (that’s the modern cool kids word to mean you’re not attracted to anyone if any old farts are reading this). Why do I say this? Simple. I say that Lloyd is ace because, he seems to be uninterested in any kind of romantic endeavors with any character of any kind in this series. Lloyd is simply too busy exploring magic and learning new powers to ever think about romance. I do think maybe when he’s older he could possibly find a partner, but that kind of thing seems completely unappealing to him in his current state in this story.

So, conclusion. Is this show intended for an audience who really really like shota? Solid nope from me dog. There’s other shows that do appeal to that audience though, so I understand people’s theorizing to an extent. But with this show, I just don’t see it being for that audience at all except maybe on a vague “here’s a new young character for you to be a fan of”. But I’ve read enough weird comments plenty of people get those kind of characters from literally everywhere. I’ve seen some who got those kind of characters they enjoyed, in the comments section of Pokémon anime videos. Does that make Pokémon for that audience? Heck no! haha. This is a discussion though so I’d like to hear your thoughts:

Let me know with a response. Am I off base with this? Are there criteria for a show to be for that fanbase that I don’t know about?
Apr 6, 2024 8:16 PM
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The character design certainly intentional to gear toward certain demographics, mainly women who like shotas or shaotas in general. So yeah this not for you I guess.
Apr 6, 2024 8:32 PM
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Bro the lil homie is definitely not supposed to be a Mushoku or slime type mc he is obviously set to speak to a set demographic and the general vibe of the show seems to corroborate that. Still gonna watch tho gotta watch the demon get cucked cuz that’s funny af
Apr 6, 2024 8:42 PM
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Bro the lil homie is definitely not supposed to be a Mushoku or slime type mc he is obviously set to speak to a set demographic and the general vibe of the show seems to corroborate that. Still gonna watch tho gotta watch the demon get cucked cuz that’s funny af
@NiftyNarwhal first off thank you for taking the time to write out your reasons! Second of all, the demon gets WHATed? You mean Grim? What on earth do they do to him, I gotta know bro, write it as a spoiler here I’m so curious that sounds wild
Apr 7, 2024 6:22 PM
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LucarioSweet said:
@NiftyNarwhal first off thank you for taking the time to write out your reasons! Second of all, the demon gets WHATed? You mean Grim? What on earth do they do to him, I gotta know bro, write it as a spoiler here I’m so curious that sounds wild

I mean in a sense of the mc beating his ass and neutering him so far. I haven’t read it so I know nothing yet.
Apr 8, 2024 7:31 AM
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lil bro wrote a book and wants answer to his "question" lmao 💀💀💀
Apr 8, 2024 7:42 AM
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lil bro wrote a book and wants answer to his "question" lmao 💀💀💀
@Orekin we don't have the book we use to? Does a book is supposed to be 150-200 pages minimum? What is a book if not even 500 words form one now? Does it mean that we going in a straight down hill where books will be reduced until they reach 10 words in a book for a kids book?
Apr 8, 2024 10:28 AM
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You answered your own question:
It's aimed at the general isekai/reincarnation fanbase, that enjoys Mushoku Tensei.


It's not that complicated. It's the typical power fantasy, self insert story where our main character can start over, in a world that loves him, now :)

It's not matter of Shota or not.
It's slightly sexual, it's a power fantasy. It's made for guys.
Apr 8, 2024 10:32 AM
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First off responding to the new comments: thank you all for taking the time to reply,
As for the one who said I “wrote a book” feel free to just ignore everything besides the first paragraph and the final sentence where I ask the question… as long as you aren’t confused why I’m saying this show is “made for otaku”. If you are confused why I’d say this show is for a general otaku audience, the other long paragraphs exist for me to explain all the general otaku tropes this show is filled with.

In fact I’d argue that having a shota in here is actually an otaku appeal as well. I’m reminded of a scene in that bizzare show last year, Magical Destroyers, where the characters were saying that to appeal to Otaku, you need to have at least one shota in there. Lol!

@Merve2Love I do not fully understand your argument that I answered my own question since ultimately I was still unsure of myself and was asking because I didn’t see anyone else saying this until now,
But that said I completely agree with your conclusion that it’s a power fantasy show made for guys. Albeit a more comedic one~
Apr 8, 2024 10:34 AM

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@Otakupervert890
First off responding to the new comments: thank you all for taking the time to reply,
As for the one who said I “wrote a book” feel free to just ignore everything besides the first paragraph and the final sentence where I ask the question… as long as you aren’t confused why I’m saying this show is “made for otaku”. If you are confused why I’d say this show is for a general otaku audience, the other long paragraphs exist for me to explain all the general otaku tropes this show is filled with.

In fact I’d argue that having a shota in here is actually an otaku appeal as well. I’m reminded of a scene in that bizzare show last year, Magical Destroyers, where the characters were saying that to appeal to Otaku, you need to have at least one shota in there. Lol!

@Merve2Love I do not fully understand your argument that I answered my own question since ultimately I was still unsure of myself and was asking because I didn’t see anyone else saying this until now,
But that said I completely agree with your conclusion that it’s a power fantasy show made for guys. Albeit a more comedic one~
@LucarioSweet

Yeah, don't be unsure.
You said it right, in the first couple of sentences^^

It's totally that.
Apr 8, 2024 12:19 PM

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The REAL question no one has asked...

Is the designer facing jail time for this pedo bait?!
"You can't spell slaughter without laughter".
Apr 8, 2024 12:41 PM

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LucarioSweet said:
since it’s one of the first manga I’ve read multiple volumes of :3
The manga is not the source material tho.
Apr 8, 2024 1:15 PM

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It's alright, I cringe when they start zooming from bottom to top, showcasing "girly" glossy legs with shorts - lacking definition and hair. Just from that shotacon (opposite of lolicon) could be a sub-genre unless author is going for gender less character like Rimuru. This can be cemented by saying: isekai adaptations released in recent years are like slight variations, mutations of one another, but with taking one aspect to extreme. If light novel doesn't go into depth about the MC's appearance, then it's a marketing strategy unique to anime. Towards whom again? I'd like you to answer. No world building, linear story, lack of drama - just a weekly power fantasy for tired japanese workers that want to just turn off brains and watch.
Apr 8, 2024 4:27 PM

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It's not really about shota, because he's feminized like a girl more so than a typical shota, so it's basically just an underage/trap fetishization. Of course, this somewhat controversial decision by the manga to sexualize the MC compared to the LN art, doesn't really have a more profound impact on the series. The series is still very much geared towards people that like the same sort of generic/fantasy overpowered themes that are common in isekai, it's not any deeper than that.
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Apr 9, 2024 3:08 AM
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I usually watch almost everything in every season, minus the obvious kid shows, or 1 minute episodes.

But that one image convinced me not to watch this.

The subject, the theme, the world, none of this is relevant compared to the looks of characters, it's what you'll be watching the whole time, it's what you'll be seeing the whole time, there are different tastes for different features, sure, but certain things are non negotiable, I don't think it's possible to enjoy this unless you're a gay man, or a woman.

I mean, people can force themselves, people can pretend it was no bother, but behind closed doors people wouldn't watch it, they wouldn't do it to themselves if they couldn't signal that they did it on online forums or social media for clout.

This is one of the main problems with western entertainement in current year, by the way, everyone can pretend they are "fine" with fugly people and gay sex everywhere, and sure, you can be a tolerant people, you don't hate anyone, but you're not attracted to any of it either, so there's no reason to watch, read or play any of the western garbage, not unless you're trying to tell others you're doing it, but some people aren't that needy.
Apr 9, 2024 7:24 AM
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I usually watch almost everything in every season, minus the obvious kid shows, or 1 minute episodes.

But that one image convinced me not to watch this.

The subject, the theme, the world, none of this is relevant compared to the looks of characters, it's what you'll be watching the whole time, it's what you'll be seeing the whole time, there are different tastes for different features, sure, but certain things are non negotiable, I don't think it's possible to enjoy this unless you're a gay man, or a woman.

I mean, people can force themselves, people can pretend it was no bother, but behind closed doors people wouldn't watch it, they wouldn't do it to themselves if they couldn't signal that they did it on online forums or social media for clout.

This is one of the main problems with western entertainement in current year, by the way, everyone can pretend they are "fine" with fugly people and gay sex everywhere, and sure, you can be a tolerant people, you don't hate anyone, but you're not attracted to any of it either, so there's no reason to watch, read or play any of the western garbage, not unless you're trying to tell others you're doing it, but some people aren't that needy.
@Voidian if I can convince you of one reason I think this show is worth it I can’t stop myself from mentioning: the director of this show, is legit very good, he also directed Chivalry of a Failed Knight, an anime that aired at the same time as Asterisk War and was originally accused of only being made to rip off the much anticipated anime of Asterisk War,
But then the entire MaL community collectively realized Asterisk War was quite bad, and Failed Knight was actually the real underrated show, as it ended up getting a much much higher score (7.4 compared to Asterisk War’s 6.8) than Asterisk War by the end of the season, by having meaningful character development, a relationship that actually progress and was genuine and romantic (despite the show pretending to be a harem with a little sister), and all together Failed Knight was just a great example of a show starting with a bottom of the barell reputation and coming up to be great.
So considering the director of Failed Knight is directing this show, I have hope in him.
Apr 9, 2024 2:03 PM

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I have trouble seeing this directed at the Mushoko Tensei fanbase, since those anime bros are certainly turned off by the MC's shota design
Slime I can see more, since Rimuru has at least a very androgynous design, like Lloyd here kinda
But I can't say it's for the Shota fans out there either, since there's Harem, and idk, many shota fans aren't that much into harem. And even if Lloyd isn't into those girls, the girls are into him

well idk for who it is, but if it'll stay like that like the 2nd episode I'll continue watching it
Apr 9, 2024 2:25 PM

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I don't know why people assume the reason for a character being x or y has to be because the target audience has to be attracted to that, does this imply people consume media just to get it on? C'mon now.

The reason Lloyd is a child is because it helps contrast his innocent and unassuming appearance with the absolute monster he really is, it is as simple as that. Sure, the manga and this adaptation which is mostly based on that has some pretty sus shots and honestly, the story would be much better without those, specially when it comes to the ones centered on Lloyd, but that aside, the series as a whole is well-crafted and interesting in spite of the weird images it sometimes throws at you.
Apr 9, 2024 2:44 PM
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My opinion: This anime is supposed to introduce people to liking effeminate protagonists. There's no point in putting cute girls, and just a gay protagonist
Apr 9, 2024 2:54 PM

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definitely pedophile bait, and yes it's very very weird. why are there constant zoom ins on his thighs??? what's with the faces mc makes when he wants to see magic (where they got him blushing and huffing and shit)?

I do feel the need to point on that they constantly do the same thing to minor (legit elementary school age) female characters all the time, and the only reason this show is ruffling feathers is because for once it's a boy. not that it makes either case okay, of course. Even if the intended audience for those other anime are boys who are also minors, that shit is creepy and inappropriate. It does not matter that it's fiction... sexualizing children in any context is wrong.
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Apr 9, 2024 3:30 PM
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I don't know why people assume the reason for a character being x or y has to be because the target audience has to be attracted to that, does this imply people consume media just to get it on? C'mon now.

The reason Lloyd is a child is because it helps contrast his innocent and unassuming appearance with the absolute monster he really is, it is as simple as that. Sure, the manga and this adaptation which is mostly based on that has some pretty sus shots and honestly, the story would be much better without those, specially when it comes to the ones centered on Lloyd, but that aside, the series as a whole is well-crafted and interesting in spite of the weird images it sometimes throws at you.
@glockenspheal this reply and one that was sent a little earlier were both some of the most agreeable and best replies I’ve gotten from this thread. Cheers to you, very well said :)

I too enjoy the show and manga and found myself questioning wether I was weird for it, then I just realized, I like this show because the fights, the fun cast and the banter between the demon and him. None of those things are connected to the sometimes slightly sus camera angles / certain panels in the manga.

So, in conclusion, I am the audience for this I guess? Haha. I like it, hoping the reception turns around and gets more positive, it doesn’t deserve below 7.
Apr 9, 2024 3:45 PM

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@glockenspheal this reply and one that was sent a little earlier were both some of the most agreeable and best replies I’ve gotten from this thread. Cheers to you, very well said :)

I too enjoy the show and manga and found myself questioning wether I was weird for it, then I just realized, I like this show because the fights, the fun cast and the banter between the demon and him. None of those things are connected to the sometimes slightly sus camera angles / certain panels in the manga.

So, in conclusion, I am the audience for this I guess? Haha. I like it, hoping the reception turns around and gets more positive, it doesn’t deserve below 7.
@LucarioSweet No worries, I personally started reading this because it just seemed interesting and the art was above average to what I had seen before, I started around chapter 12, from the slight hints on how previously established mechanics worked, to the character reactions and such, it basically won me over, specially when focusing on Grim for a bit, I knew that while Lloyd was the main character, it was going to be Grim the one to have the more interesting reactions and such, and when I read it back from the beginning, I wasn't wrong.

Nowadays I still follow this series because the themes resonate with me, from finding a certain subject immensely interesting, to how that can relate to other fields and help me connect with others, to the very human and complex themes the series tackles, it definitely deserves a perfect 7.77 (heh).

People should really learn to move past appearances, Lloyd isn't even that effeminate but for some reason people always gravitate and hyper-focus towards that, I get if some shots are too much for you, it's a valid reason to stop watching if it bothers you that much, but this show is much more than just that, for an medium who's audience claims to be one of the most mature out there, such comments really paint the opposite picture here.

On another note, it's also understandable the show has such low ratings so far, the story sadly doesn't pick up until a bit later, I think it's normal for people to see this as a generic isekai show, but believe me if you haven't read the manga, it gets so so much better. My only hope is that if this anime faisl, that it doesn't affect the publication of the manga and such.
Apr 9, 2024 6:16 PM

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definitely pedophile bait, and yes it's very very weird. why are there constant zoom ins on his thighs??? what's with the faces mc makes when he wants to see magic (where they got him blushing and huffing and shit)?

I do feel the need to point on that they constantly do the same thing to minor (legit elementary school age) female characters all the time, and the only reason this show is ruffling feathers is because for once it's a boy. not that it makes either case okay, of course. Even if the intended audience for those other anime are boys who are also minors, that shit is creepy and inappropriate. It does not matter that it's fiction... sexualizing children in any context is wrong.
@Noelle43 Well, you don't make thighs like that, and then NOT zoom in on them... not that this addresses your concerns.

If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Apr 9, 2024 6:17 PM

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I have trouble seeing this directed at the Mushoko Tensei fanbase, since those anime bros are certainly turned off by the MC's shota design
Slime I can see more, since Rimuru has at least a very androgynous design, like Lloyd here kinda
But I can't say it's for the Shota fans out there either, since there's Harem, and idk, many shota fans aren't that much into harem. And even if Lloyd isn't into those girls, the girls are into him

well idk for who it is, but if it'll stay like that like the 2nd episode I'll continue watching it
@ScrewFiction You say this like MT isn't full of fetish-y shit, pretty sure most wouldn't have a problem with a shota/trap.
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Apr 9, 2024 10:24 PM

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@ScrewFiction You say this like MT isn't full of fetish-y shit, pretty sure most wouldn't have a problem with a shota/trap.
@LostSpectre Idk, maybe some years ago, but these days it makes them "omg am I gay when I watch this?" and that triggers a fight or flight response lol
I just can't see the typical casual Mushoko Tensei fan enjoy a ""shota"" or ""trap"" or ""femboy"" or whatever deteriorate term they can find
and that, according to OP, Lloyd isn't interested in the harem around him just further increases the odds they won't find enjoyment in this
Apr 10, 2024 2:25 AM

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@LostSpectre Idk, maybe some years ago, but these days it makes them "omg am I gay when I watch this?" and that triggers a fight or flight response lol
I just can't see the typical casual Mushoko Tensei fan enjoy a ""shota"" or ""trap"" or ""femboy"" or whatever deteriorate term they can find
and that, according to OP, Lloyd isn't interested in the harem around him just further increases the odds they won't find enjoyment in this
@ScrewFiction Nah. Degenerate MT fans would be so far beyond hypocrites if they had a problem with a trap MC, fuck that.
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Apr 12, 2024 12:57 AM
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The clothes and how the anime showing the MC body up down up down. It's kind of weird. Like shota fanservice. If they not do that, I think it's normal like any Isekai anime reincarnation with female boobies harem.

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