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Jan 22, 2024 1:25 PM
#1
I started watching the anime back when season 2 was coming out. I watched till the end of season 3 and only just realised there was a movie when i decided to rewatch. Idk why but i had this memory than season 3 ended with a confession and by rewatching it i realised ive remembered wrong. So my thoughts about the series is that season 1 is the best season with every season afterwards dropping in quality. Now when i have seen what i consider to be a fitting end for the story finally i can say that season 3 sucked. I was reading a lot when season 3 was coming out that THIS IS THE SEASON from a lot of overhyped fans/manga readers and i expected that finally this story will come to conclusion but S3 ended poorly with , i thought , another 3-4 seasons coming up until FINALLY they get together. I was pleasantly surprised tho that they got together shortly after , i know there is a lot more material in the manga but for me this is the end of the story and i dont really want to know the rest. Now for what i dislike about the later stages of the series is that they nerfed Shirogane a LOT, in S1 he was a brave , strategic and consoled young man with intelligence that could rival even LIght Yagami's , but in S3 and especially the movie he was this hopeless romantic who broke down over the slightest change of Kaguya's attitude. In the movie they both already knew they like each other , kaguya was pushing him actively to take their relationship to the next level and yet he still acted like a little bi*** about it and chose to suffer instead of becoming a man and taking what he wants from god knows how much time. He was my favourite character and i just get mad when i see how much he fell in the movie , at the end kaguya told him she loves him first and proposed to him to be her boyfriend completely making him irrelevant as a man. Overral im happy that i got to see them together at last , and i liked the change of atmosphere in the movie - from a silly rom-com to a more serious rom-drama, its definitely a good story and i would recommend it to ppl in the future but its very far from a masterpiece and i feel it could have been better. What are your thoughts about the end? |
Jan 22, 2024 1:45 PM
#2
BunnySenpaiii1 said: I started watching the anime back when season 2 was coming out. I watched till the end of season 3 and only just realised there was a movie when i decided to rewatch. Idk why but i had this memory than season 3 ended with a confession and by rewatching it i realised ive remembered wrong. So my thoughts about the series is that season 1 is the best season with every season afterwards dropping in quality. Now when i have seen what i consider to be a fitting end for the story finally i can say that season 3 sucked. I was reading a lot when season 3 was coming out that THIS IS THE SEASON from a lot of overhyped fans/manga readers and i expected that finally this story will come to conclusion but S3 ended poorly with , i thought , another 3-4 seasons coming up until FINALLY they get together. I was pleasantly surprised tho that they got together shortly after , i know there is a lot more material in the manga but for me this is the end of the story and i dont really want to know the rest. Now for what i dislike about the later stages of the series is that they nerfed Shirogane a LOT, in S1 he was a brave , strategic and consoled young man with intelligence that could rival even LIght Yagami's , but in S3 and especially the movie he was this hopeless romantic who broke down over the slightest change of Kaguya's attitude. In the movie they both already knew they like each other , kaguya was pushing him actively to take their relationship to the next level and yet he still acted like a little bi*** about it and chose to suffer instead of becoming a man and taking what he wants from god knows how much time. He was my favourite character and i just get mad when i see how much he fell in the movie , at the end kaguya told him she loves him first and proposed to him to be her boyfriend completely making him irrelevant as a man. Overral im happy that i got to see them together at last , and i liked the change of atmosphere in the movie - from a silly rom-com to a more serious rom-drama, its definitely a good story and i would recommend it to ppl in the future but its very far from a masterpiece and i feel it could have been better. What are your thoughts about the end? It hasn’t ended they’ve only covered about half of the manga |
Jan 22, 2024 1:45 PM
#4
Jan 22, 2024 1:52 PM
#5
Well, most people aren't going to consider this the end, because... I mean, it isn't. Just because you're gonna stop watching doesn't mean we have to judge the movie on its merits as an ending. But to humor you, I think you greatly misunderstood what the series was about. You criticize the series for making Shirogane more insecure and emotional and less like Light Yagami, but here's the fundamental difference between those two: Shirogane is a good person, and Light isn't. And if Shirogane is supposed to be less of a man for not having confessed first, especially after what he pulled at the end of Season 3, I think you drastically misread his character from the very beginning. I also don't quite get why this misunderstanding is all Shirogane's fault when a good two-thirds of the movie is shown from Kaguya's perspective with her being unwilling to admit her feelings for fear of exposing her weakness. She by no means was open to him about what she wanted during the movie, so she bears equal responsibility for their turmoil. Also, they're both 16, and the premise of the show involves them both being socially inept, so I don't know why you're only complaining now. Both Miyuki and Kaguya are flawed people who complement each other and make each other better, and the whole angle of the show, being them at odds with each other, is absurd by design. If the series reached this point without having that dynamic be broken and both parties realizing the pointlessness of their competitive framework (which is what the confession scene in the movie does), it would have lost the plot much more than you're implying it did. All I can get from your complaint is that the show ended up being different than what you wanted (Death Note but rom-com?) and you decided that was a mistake. |
Jan 22, 2024 1:53 PM
#6
Well, most people aren't going to consider this the end, because... I mean, it isn't. Just because you're gonna stop watching doesn't mean we have to judge the movie on its merits as an ending. But to humor you, I think you greatly misunderstood what the series was about. You criticize the series for making Shirogane more insecure and emotional and less like Light Yagami, but here's the fundamental difference between those two: Shirogane is a good person, and Light isn't. And if Shirogane is supposed to be less of a man for not having confessed first, especially after what he pulled at the end of Season 3, I think you drastically misread his character from the very beginning. I also don't quite get why this misunderstanding is all Shirogane's fault when a good two-thirds of the movie is shown from Kaguya's perspective with her being unwilling to admit her feelings for fear of exposing her weakness. She by no means was open to him about what she wanted during the movie, so she bears equal responsibility for their turmoil. Also, they're both 16, and the premise of the show involves them both being socially inept, so I don't know why you're only complaining now. Both Miyuki and Kaguya are flawed people who complement each other and make each other better, and the whole angle of the show, being them at odds with each other, is absurd by design. If the series reached this point without having that dynamic be broken and both parties realizing the pointlessness of their competitive framework (which is what the confession scene in the movie does), it would have lost the plot much more than you're implying it did. All I can get from your complaint is that the show ended up being different than what you wanted (Death Note but rom-com?) and you decided that was a mistake. |
Jan 22, 2024 2:01 PM
#7
No way I’m reading all that and I haven’t rewatched the show that can only mean 1 thing I didn’t enjoy the series as much as other people did |
Jan 22, 2024 2:05 PM
#8
Bro took the time to write all that but not the 2 minute google search to find out the show hasn’t ended |
Jan 22, 2024 2:33 PM
#9
Dude chillax. The show hasn't ended. There's still a lot of source material left to cover. |
Jan 22, 2024 2:59 PM
#10
It's hilariously bizarre to compare Ishigami to Light lmfao. And if you think his character was awesome in season 1 and got worse over time idk what to tell you, I feel like you're completely misunderstanding him and what the anime (/manga) is trying to explore through him. He was a miserable loser in season 1 and went through a lot of growth in S2, making him a more well-rounded character moving forward. Also Kaguya making more of a move makes Shirogane "irrelevant as a man"??? What does that even mean? No offense but I feel like you have weird ideas of how men should act. And I feel like you've completely misread the characters. |
Jan 22, 2024 4:21 PM
#11
I would say that if you were looking for a conclusion without dedicating time to make it all the way to the end you should have just stopped at the confession. No where was it stated that this was meant to be a finale, rather think of this as the interlude or start of the next act of the story. |
CBPman9001Jan 22, 2024 8:37 PM
Jan 22, 2024 8:40 PM
#12
BunnySenpaiii1 said: I started watching the anime back when season 2 was coming out. I watched till the end of season 3 and only just realised there was a movie when i decided to rewatch. Idk why but i had this memory than season 3 ended with a confession and by rewatching it i realised ive remembered wrong. So my thoughts about the series is that season 1 is the best season with every season afterwards dropping in quality. Now when i have seen what i consider to be a fitting end for the story finally i can say that season 3 sucked. I was reading a lot when season 3 was coming out that THIS IS THE SEASON from a lot of overhyped fans/manga readers and i expected that finally this story will come to conclusion but S3 ended poorly with , i thought , another 3-4 seasons coming up until FINALLY they get together. I was pleasantly surprised tho that they got together shortly after , i know there is a lot more material in the manga but for me this is the end of the story and i dont really want to know the rest. Now for what i dislike about the later stages of the series is that they nerfed Shirogane a LOT, in S1 he was a brave , strategic and consoled young man with intelligence that could rival even LIght Yagami's , but in S3 and especially the movie he was this hopeless romantic who broke down over the slightest change of Kaguya's attitude. In the movie they both already knew they like each other , kaguya was pushing him actively to take their relationship to the next level and yet he still acted like a little bi*** about it and chose to suffer instead of becoming a man and taking what he wants from god knows how much time. He was my favourite character and i just get mad when i see how much he fell in the movie , at the end kaguya told him she loves him first and proposed to him to be her boyfriend completely making him irrelevant as a man. Overral im happy that i got to see them together at last , and i liked the change of atmosphere in the movie - from a silly rom-com to a more serious rom-drama, its definitely a good story and i would recommend it to ppl in the future but its very far from a masterpiece and i feel it could have been better. What are your thoughts about the end? There's still more to come |
Jan 22, 2024 9:04 PM
#13
I ain’t reading all that. Also the series isn’t even close to being fully adapted. |
Jan 22, 2024 10:32 PM
#14
Shirogane was always like this...did you not understand the whole point of s3 and the movie? Shirogane in s1 was simply putting up a mask, it's only after he let his true side, the weak side show that they finally got to be together. |
Jan 22, 2024 11:18 PM
#15
BunnySenpaiii1 said: I started watching the anime back when season 2 was coming out. I watched till the end of season 3 and only just realised there was a movie when i decided to rewatch. Idk why but i had this memory than season 3 ended with a confession and by rewatching it i realised ive remembered wrong. So my thoughts about the series is that season 1 is the best season with every season afterwards dropping in quality. Now when i have seen what i consider to be a fitting end for the story finally i can say that season 3 sucked. I was reading a lot when season 3 was coming out that THIS IS THE SEASON from a lot of overhyped fans/manga readers and i expected that finally this story will come to conclusion but S3 ended poorly with , i thought , another 3-4 seasons coming up until FINALLY they get together. I was pleasantly surprised tho that they got together shortly after , i know there is a lot more material in the manga but for me this is the end of the story and i dont really want to know the rest. Now for what i dislike about the later stages of the series is that they nerfed Shirogane a LOT, in S1 he was a brave , strategic and consoled young man with intelligence that could rival even LIght Yagami's , but in S3 and especially the movie he was this hopeless romantic who broke down over the slightest change of Kaguya's attitude. In the movie they both already knew they like each other , kaguya was pushing him actively to take their relationship to the next level and yet he still acted like a little bi*** about it and chose to suffer instead of becoming a man and taking what he wants from god knows how much time. He was my favourite character and i just get mad when i see how much he fell in the movie , at the end kaguya told him she loves him first and proposed to him to be her boyfriend completely making him irrelevant as a man. Overral im happy that i got to see them together at last , and i liked the change of atmosphere in the movie - from a silly rom-com to a more serious rom-drama, its definitely a good story and i would recommend it to ppl in the future but its very far from a masterpiece and i feel it could have been better. What are your thoughts about the end? I ain't reading all that but looking at other people's replies, I think you have assumed this to be the end. It's not Although IMO manga started going downhill from this point onwards and I was really disappointed, made it an 8 to 7 |
Jan 22, 2024 11:28 PM
#16
What is more crazy to me is all these clowns in the comments with mha pictures not reading the actual thread and telling you that the show isn’t over. The attention span of y’all is very low. Anyways I do agree that the series went downhill after season 1 but the movie was great. |
Jan 23, 2024 12:46 AM
#17
"What are your thoughts about the ending?" - I think you should read the manga before making any conclusions about the ending of the anime adaptation, if it is indeed the ending, of course. Miyuki was never really Yagami Light, he was just trying to appear to impress Shinomiya and the academy. He loves Kaguya very much, so he clearly understands that she had a difficult childhood that affected her psyche, so the mood swings after the kiss are taken with concern but understanding. In addition, his mother had abandoned him because he wasn't a brilliant child, so Miyuki was left with a traumatic experience. Akasaka is a good psychologist, you should realize that instead of complaining about sequels. |
Jan 23, 2024 1:32 AM
#18
BunnySenpaiii1 said: I started watching the anime back when season 2 was coming out. I watched till the end of season 3 and only just realised there was a movie when i decided to rewatch. Idk why but i had this memory than season 3 ended with a confession and by rewatching it i realised ive remembered wrong. So my thoughts about the series is that season 1 is the best season with every season afterwards dropping in quality. Now when i have seen what i consider to be a fitting end for the story finally i can say that season 3 sucked. I was reading a lot when season 3 was coming out that THIS IS THE SEASON from a lot of overhyped fans/manga readers and i expected that finally this story will come to conclusion but S3 ended poorly with , i thought , another 3-4 seasons coming up until FINALLY they get together. I was pleasantly surprised tho that they got together shortly after , i know there is a lot more material in the manga but for me this is the end of the story and i dont really want to know the rest. Now for what i dislike about the later stages of the series is that they nerfed Shirogane a LOT, in S1 he was a brave , strategic and consoled young man with intelligence that could rival even LIght Yagami's , but in S3 and especially the movie he was this hopeless romantic who broke down over the slightest change of Kaguya's attitude. In the movie they both already knew they like each other , kaguya was pushing him actively to take their relationship to the next level and yet he still acted like a little bi*** about it and chose to suffer instead of becoming a man and taking what he wants from god knows how much time. He was my favourite character and i just get mad when i see how much he fell in the movie , at the end kaguya told him she loves him first and proposed to him to be her boyfriend completely making him irrelevant as a man. Overral im happy that i got to see them together at last , and i liked the change of atmosphere in the movie - from a silly rom-com to a more serious rom-drama, its definitely a good story and i would recommend it to ppl in the future but its very far from a masterpiece and i feel it could have been better. What are your thoughts about the end? How's Everyone writing essays on a discussion thread. Can anyone sum it all up for me Please . . . I'm too lazy to read all of it. I'm not being rude it's my comedic laziness I'm stating . Don't you dare get offended ! |
Jan 23, 2024 2:03 AM
#19
elderonn said: What is more crazy to me is all these clowns in the comments with mha pictures not reading the actual thread and telling you that the show isn’t over. The attention span of y’all is very low. Anyways I do agree that the series went downhill after season 1 but the movie was great. Someone finally said it. |
Jan 23, 2024 2:54 AM
#20
elderonn said: What is more crazy to me is all these clowns in the comments with mha pictures not reading the actual thread and telling you that the show isn’t over. The attention span of y’all is very low. Anyways I do agree that the series went downhill after season 1 but the movie was great. Support you about the clowns but I still think it didn't go downhill . Rather it went more into complex romance from being a rom com. I think it ain't right calling it a degradation. I'm open for a fun debate though . |
Jan 23, 2024 11:48 AM
#21
AgentDusk said: Well, most people aren't going to consider this the end, because... I mean, it isn't. Just because you're gonna stop watching doesn't mean we have to judge the movie on its merits as an ending. But to humor you, I think you greatly misunderstood what the series was about. You criticize the series for making Shirogane more insecure and emotional and less like Light Yagami, but here's the fundamental difference between those two: Shirogane is a good person, and Light isn't. And if Shirogane is supposed to be less of a man for not having confessed first, especially after what he pulled at the end of Season 3, I think you drastically misread his character from the very beginning. I also don't quite get why this misunderstanding is all Shirogane's fault when a good two-thirds of the movie is shown from Kaguya's perspective with her being unwilling to admit her feelings for fear of exposing her weakness. She by no means was open to him about what she wanted during the movie, so she bears equal responsibility for their turmoil. Also, they're both 16, and the premise of the show involves them both being socially inept, so I don't know why you're only complaining now. Both Miyuki and Kaguya are flawed people who complement each other and make each other better, and the whole angle of the show, being them at odds with each other, is absurd by design. If the series reached this point without having that dynamic be broken and both parties realizing the pointlessness of their competitive framework (which is what the confession scene in the movie does), it would have lost the plot much more than you're implying it did. All I can get from your complaint is that the show ended up being different than what you wanted (Death Note but rom-com?) and you decided that was a mistake. well said..... and i hope for season 4 |
Jan 24, 2024 5:59 PM
#22
AgentDusk said: Well, most people aren't going to consider this the end, because... I mean, it isn't. Just because you're gonna stop watching doesn't mean we have to judge the movie on its merits as an ending. But to humor you, I think you greatly misunderstood what the series was about. You criticize the series for making Shirogane more insecure and emotional and less like Light Yagami, but here's the fundamental difference between those two: Shirogane is a good person, and Light isn't. And if Shirogane is supposed to be less of a man for not having confessed first, especially after what he pulled at the end of Season 3, I think you drastically misread his character from the very beginning. I also don't quite get why this misunderstanding is all Shirogane's fault when a good two-thirds of the movie is shown from Kaguya's perspective with her being unwilling to admit her feelings for fear of exposing her weakness. She by no means was open to him about what she wanted during the movie, so she bears equal responsibility for their turmoil. Also, they're both 16, and the premise of the show involves them both being socially inept, so I don't know why you're only complaining now. Both Miyuki and Kaguya are flawed people who complement each other and make each other better, and the whole angle of the show, being them at odds with each other, is absurd by design. If the series reached this point without having that dynamic be broken and both parties realizing the pointlessness of their competitive framework (which is what the confession scene in the movie does), it would have lost the plot much more than you're implying it did. All I can get from your complaint is that the show ended up being different than what you wanted (Death Note but rom-com?) and you decided that was a mistake. This sums up the idea pretty well. I fully agree. To add to what AgentDusk said, OP seems to have misinterpreted some aspects of the show. This anime is also about character development. It makes you believe that Kaguya and Miyuki have a personality they do not. One of the best parts of this anime is the gradual disclosure of their messed up backgrounds, which ended up messing them up, socially speaking. Hence, they are meant to gradually distance themselves from their “initial personality”. Anyway, I understand OP in a giving light, because sometimes we do enjoy some characteristic of a protagonist and tend to dislike some later change, but we should not forget what the atmosphere of the anime is build up, and how the script is clearly being set. |
Jan 28, 2024 6:13 AM
#23
I started watching the anime back when season 2 was coming out. I watched till the end of season 3 and only just realised there was a movie when i decided to rewatch. Idk why but i had this memory than season 3 ended with a confession and by rewatching it i realised ive remembered wrong. So my thoughts about the series is that season 1 is the best season with every season afterwards dropping in quality. Now when i have seen what i consider to be a fitting end for the story finally i can say that season 3 sucked. I was reading a lot when season 3 was coming out that THIS IS THE SEASON from a lot of overhyped fans/manga readers and i expected that finally this story will come to conclusion but S3 ended poorly with , i thought , another 3-4 seasons coming up until FINALLY they get together. I was pleasantly surprised tho that they got together shortly after , i know there is a lot more material in the manga but for me this is the end of the story and i dont really want to know the rest. Now for what i dislike about the later stages of the series is that they nerfed Shirogane a LOT, in S1 he was a brave , strategic and consoled young man with intelligence that could rival even LIght Yagami's , but in S3 and especially the movie he was this hopeless romantic who broke down over the slightest change of Kaguya's attitude. In the movie they both already knew they like each other , kaguya was pushing him actively to take their relationship to the next level and yet he still acted like a little bi*** about it and chose to suffer instead of becoming a man and taking what he wants from god knows how much time. He was my favourite character and i just get mad when i see how much he fell in the movie , at the end kaguya told him she loves him first and proposed to him to be her boyfriend completely making him irrelevant as a man. Overral im happy that i got to see them together at last , and i liked the change of atmosphere in the movie - from a silly rom-com to a more serious rom-drama, its definitely a good story and i would recommend it to ppl in the future but its very far from a masterpiece and i feel it could have been better. What are your thoughts about the end? ______________________________________________________ |
Feb 6, 2024 7:29 PM
#24
First of all, the show is not close to being done Second of all, if you think the 2nd and 3rd seasons are drops in quality because Shriogane started acting like a beta male and showed his feelings too much you have completely misunderstood the point of the show and you do not deserve to enjoy it. |
Feb 24, 2024 10:21 PM
#25
I think the show went from focusing more about comedy in S1 to focusing more about romance. Or at least they tackled romance in S1 in a very unique way almost mocking typical romance shows (like a deconstruction of the genre), while in S3 becoming a typical romance story to some extend. So I also think it went downhill from S1, but the romance in the movie was at least nice (I liked it more than the end of S3), because it gave new insights into the characters and felt more touchy. |
LockensockeFeb 27, 2024 10:01 PM
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