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Jan 8, 2024 9:48 PM
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I loved the cinematic feel of it, and it truly felt like he was inspired by many amazing movie directors.

All in all, it was an incredible experience. CSM S1 was a 9/10 for me.
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Jan 8, 2024 10:04 PM
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ohk i have seen the news that ryu left mappa ....he did a very great job to CSM ...i want more of that in season 2 only ...it give true feeling of CSM bruh!!
Jan 8, 2024 10:18 PM
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He did a solid job and I have no idea where this hate comes from other than attention seeking.

Jan 8, 2024 10:24 PM
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He did a solid job and I have no idea where this hate comes from other than attention seeking.
@Piromysl It comes from manga elitists.
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Jan 8, 2024 10:34 PM
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its peak i dont get the hate
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I really loved it!! However, after reading the manga I understood people’s frustration with it. The manga was way more frightening and eerie which made it extremely thrilling. I personally would’ve preferred the mangas tone over what we did get but I still loved the cinematic version!! 8/10
Jan 8, 2024 10:48 PM
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@Piromysl It comes from manga elitists.

based on people's anger over my opinions on JJK S2 and Blue Lock I'm pretty sure I'd be considered a manga elitist, but I thought CSM pulled off what it adapted better than the manga. It was also just awesome with the movie references and endings. It's really felt like they loved what they were making (even though I'm sure the animators still weren't actually having a good time)

I mean I wouldn't describe myself as a manga elitist by any means, just felt like putting that there because I have preferred a couple manga over anime, but it's crazy anyone thinks S1 of CSM was poorly made (I could understand people preferring the manga, actively disliking the adaptation makes absolutely no sense though)
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Jan 8, 2024 11:17 PM
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SoulessAnime said:
GoatPieceLuffy said:
@Piromysl It comes from manga elitists.

based on people's anger over my opinions on JJK S2 and Blue Lock I'm pretty sure I'd be considered a manga elitist, but I thought CSM pulled off what it adapted better than the manga. It was also just awesome with the movie references and endings. It's really felt like they loved what they were making (even though I'm sure the animators still weren't actually having a good time)

I mean I wouldn't describe myself as a manga elitist by any means, just felt like putting that there because I have preferred a couple manga over anime, but S1 of CSM is crazy to think was done poorly (I could understand people preferring the manga, actively disliking the adaptation makes absolutely no sense though)

Csm S1 didn't do poorly. It was a complete success. Mappa ceo said so. Just didn't do as good as they thought it would. I think a lot of it was because Mappa paid out of pocket for the show and had to do sales on their own. I'm pretty sure the ceo mentions their inexperience with marketing in an interview somewhere.
Jan 8, 2024 11:18 PM
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I really loved it!! However, after reading the manga I understood people’s frustration with it. The manga was way more frightening and eerie which made it extremely thrilling. I personally would’ve preferred the mangas tone over what we did get but I still loved the cinematic version!! 8/10

I thought that's why they hated it because it was too eire and had more of a dark tone to it. i mainly heard people wanting a more colorful palet with goofyness. The adaptation was incredible. idk why people are complaining.
Jan 8, 2024 11:37 PM
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Wish they made it longer, but oh well. Better to have something sweet and short than crappy and long. Also I am REALLY hyped for the movie coming out soon.
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too bad the japanese fans that constantly complained wants anime and not western cinema
Jan 8, 2024 11:55 PM

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I guess I'm a manga elitist because I think that the manga is better in every way than the anime, but the anime was still great, just wish they did better with the color palette and that it wasn't only 12 ep
Jan 8, 2024 11:57 PM

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Zar20 said:
CheekyNimrod said:
I really loved it!! However, after reading the manga I understood people’s frustration with it. The manga was way more frightening and eerie which made it extremely thrilling. I personally would’ve preferred the mangas tone over what we did get but I still loved the cinematic version!! 8/10

I thought that's why they hated it because it was too eire and had more of a dark tone to it. i mainly heard people wanting a more colorful palet with goofyness. The adaptation was incredible. idk why people are complaining.

tbh I think a super vibrant color palette and all the fucked up gore just fits Fujimoto's style better. That's my opinion tho, it doesn't need to be goofy I just feel like the color palette needs to be more vibrant
Jan 9, 2024 12:05 AM
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i personally didn’t had no problem with it, i had a fun time with it.
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Zar20 said:

I thought that's why they hated it because it was too eire and had more of a dark tone to it. i mainly heard people wanting a more colorful palet with goofyness. The adaptation was incredible. idk why people are complaining.

tbh I think a super vibrant color palette and all the fucked up gore just fits Fujimoto's style better. That's my opinion tho, it doesn't need to be goofy I just feel like the color palette needs to be more vibrant

I can understand it for sure. The manga covers give off that vibe, obviously. I just think in terms of the story(makima's twist- light spoiler), the dark aspect fits overall better. Especially in the later half of part one, things get really dark.

I would be completely open to a different adaptation later in the future that has more of those vibrant colors mybe even by a different studio.

This adaptation is what I wanted, though, and it is going to be a joy to watch in the next decade.
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Zar20 said:
AntiSadboi said:

tbh I think a super vibrant color palette and all the fucked up gore just fits Fujimoto's style better. That's my opinion tho, it doesn't need to be goofy I just feel like the color palette needs to be more vibrant

I can understand it for sure. The manga covers give off that vibe, obviously. I just think in terms of the story(makima's twist- light spoiler), the dark aspect fits overall better. Especially in the later half of part one, things get really dark.

I would be completely open to a different adaptation later in the future that has more of those vibrant colors mybe even by a different studio.

This adaptation is what I wanted, though, and it is going to be a joy to watch in the next decade.

Yeah I get what if saying, honestly I tell ppl to experience it both ways and choose what they like best
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Jan 9, 2024 12:46 AM
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loved it.
chainsaw man is now my fav anime .
it is the first manga that I read in my life.
it is so good
Jan 9, 2024 1:15 AM
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I've read the manga and also watched the anime and I think he did a great job directing it. I really don't get the hate he's receiving.
Jan 9, 2024 2:00 AM
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imo it wasn’t 9/10. If there was a 7.5/10 rating then i’d say that but there isn’t. In hindsight the rest of the source material in csm is so much better than this season which was basically called the intro arc. No hate on the director but i think the source material is what let it down a bit. By no means bad, it’s just overshadowed by later arcs in the manga
Jan 9, 2024 5:29 AM
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Zar20 said:
SoulessAnime said:

based on people's anger over my opinions on JJK S2 and Blue Lock I'm pretty sure I'd be considered a manga elitist, but I thought CSM pulled off what it adapted better than the manga. It was also just awesome with the movie references and endings. It's really felt like they loved what they were making (even though I'm sure the animators still weren't actually having a good time)

I mean I wouldn't describe myself as a manga elitist by any means, just felt like putting that there because I have preferred a couple manga over anime, but S1 of CSM is crazy to think was done poorly (I could understand people preferring the manga, actively disliking the adaptation makes absolutely no sense though)

Csm S1 didn't do poorly. It was a complete success. Mappa ceo said so. Just didn't do as good as they thought it would. I think a lot of it was because Mappa paid out of pocket for the show and had to do sales on their own. I'm pretty sure the ceo mentions their inexperience with marketing in an interview somewhere.

In my comment I meant "it's crazy to think it was poorly made", wasn't trying to imply anything financial, should've probably phrased it better
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You all should respect what Nakayama doing. The reason he leaving Mappa because of worst work condition, thigh schedule and harassments from japan fans. I remember read his twitter saying he, TNK and Yoshihara not sleeping finishing csm final episode that will airing few days later.

Mappa is the worst studio. They should treat their animator as human not a slave.

I hate Mappa but i still will support with watching at Cinema Reze movie. Lets goo.
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amazing experience, haven't enjoyed another new gen adaptation as much as that and i just wish it had more than 12 episodes. i rewatch it every 6 months since it's so short and just completed it a few days ago so it's very fresh in my mind. shame how the fans treated ryu, don't deserve him but i'm glad we got what we got although it'll probably never be done again sadly.
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SoulessAnime said:
Zar20 said:

Csm S1 didn't do poorly. It was a complete success. Mappa ceo said so. Just didn't do as good as they thought it would. I think a lot of it was because Mappa paid out of pocket for the show and had to do sales on their own. I'm pretty sure the ceo mentions their inexperience with marketing in an interview somewhere.

In my comment I meant "it's crazy to think it was poorly made", wasn't trying to imply anything financial, should've probably phrased it better

oh, you're good, friend!
Jan 9, 2024 7:02 AM

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I loved the cinematic feel of it, and it truly felt like he was inspired by many amazing movie directors.

All in all, it was an incredible experience. CSM S1 was a 9/10 for me.

Dude only the 1st episode has a cinematic feeling, that’s about it. The rest felt like a normal anime. The anime is low key a cheap version of the manga to me it was a 6-7/10 I think I gave it a 7 bc I was being nice but it’s now closer to a 6 looking at it at an objective standpoint
Jan 9, 2024 7:03 AM

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@Piromysl It comes from manga elitists.

They have their reasons and they are valid ngl.
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The only issue i had with CSM S1 is the overuse of CGI, but still It was fun to watch:)

They added so much unnecessary cgi to the point where it felt like they were cutting corners.
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It had one of the most crisp and focused productions of that year. Every department was firing on all cylinders to one vision. The sign of a great director and production lead, Keisuke Seshimo
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He did a solid job and I have no idea where this hate comes from other than attention seeking.

It’s tragic, but you are right. And I don’t say this to make anyone mad I genuinely think the community has lost touch with what an adaptation is and is too focused on the next thing to get hyped over. This has killed the fun of anime discussions since you can’t just evaluate a show on its own anymore.
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i was not a fan of the cinematic style, i would have preferred a wackier style personally, with that being said i can see why most like it and i would still say i enjoyed chainsaw man season 1. my biggest problem with chainsaw man (which isnt even a problem with the show) was how fans built it up as this mind-boggling masterpiece that would blow the anime community away and it just wasn't all that for me, looking forward to the movie and season 2. even tho i didnt prefer the style i wish they woulda kept the director for a more cohesive feel bewtween seasons.
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After seeing anime and reading manga, I prefer anime anyway. Aside from some really good pages, Fujimoto's style is very Simple, and honestly, I have seen better (by reading for the last 10y of my life). Especially last arc I read only for some characters as the story seems to be kinda stuck in one place.
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the cgi was so fucking cool. people just love acting like spoiled childs. i cannot say anything about Japaneese viewers hating it tho. have no clue what they think about.
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I do! His approach has elevated the source material, in my opinion. Stuff adapted in the first seasons felt mediocre to me in the manga format (well... the whole manga felt underwhelming, to be fair), while in the anime format it was really pleasant to watch. Cinematic feel really did the work, haha. Combined with high production quality, it resulted in a totally awesome show.
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in my opinion, CSM isn't the best show, but it isn't the worse either. 7/10

I do not understand the all the commotion about it.
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@Piromysl It comes from manga elitists.

They have their reasons and they are valid ngl.
@Dixoncider8142

1. Art is subjective & I loved it, that I gave it a 9/10. You're also trippin if you think there wasn't any cinematic feel besides EP1.

& 2. Elitist Manga fans are toxic as hell and think most anime adaptations are "inferior".
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I think that after reading the manga, the anime adaptation will never be as good. Just by default. I rated it 7/10. It wasn’t bad at all. But it’s different. To each their own tho!
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I think Fujimoto is such a unique artist with such unique paneling and whatnot that straight up cannot be captured in another medium (and I say this as a film and anime lover who is pretty new to manga). With that said, the anime is so interesting and unique stylistically, while also honoring the spirit of the manga imo.

People talk about the slower scenes and muted colors feeling overly serious/cinematic/ashamed of being anime but I didn't feel that at all. Chainsaw Man, to me, is a work where fun batshit chaos and somber emotions live side by side. And to me that was captured perfectly.
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@Dixoncider8142

1. Art is subjective & I loved it, that I gave it a 9/10. You're also trippin if you think there wasn't any cinematic feel besides EP1.

& 2. Elitist Manga fans are toxic as hell and think most anime adaptations are "inferior".

They got the character designs perfectly I’ll give them that but the animation wasn’t at its best just like other MAPPA projects that they’ve done for the past year, also csm barely had any sakuga, I could only think of 2-3 scenes that had sakuga. Also it didn’t have a cinematic feel to it, I assure u I’m not tripping it’s just the truth.
Also manga readers are right 55-60% of the time
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@Dixoncider8142

1. Art is subjective & I loved it, that I gave it a 9/10. You're also trippin if you think there wasn't any cinematic feel besides EP1.

& 2. Elitist Manga fans are toxic as hell and think most anime adaptations are "inferior".

They got the character designs perfectly I’ll give them that but the animation wasn’t at its best just like other MAPPA projects that they’ve done for the past year, also csm barely had any sakuga, I could only think of 2-3 scenes that had sakuga. Also it didn’t have a cinematic feel to it, I assure u I’m not tripping it’s just the truth.
Also manga readers are right 55-60% of the time
@Dixoncider8142

1. I don't know. To me, CSM animation was fire and Mappa has been doing an amazing job with most of their projects.

2. It did have a cinematic feel to it so yeah, you're trippin.

& 3. If you think manga readers are right most of the time, then you're just blind.
There's a reason why most anime-only people don't listen to manga elitists because quite frankly, they complain about EVERYTHING.
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bruh S1 chainsaw man production was something else, the directing for every ep was phenomenal.
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Jan 12, 2024 3:26 AM

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Really liked it, waiting for season 2
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I loved the direction of s1
The only downside is the cgi, but the cgi isn't bad and still can be considered as one of the best looking cgi in animes

For color tone controversy, I dunno which one works well for the anime adaptation. The realistic or chaotic color tone
I hope the reze arc will keep the cinematic direction, even tho with a different director

All I can say, Chainsawman anime is overHATED and deserved more love because of it's creative way on directing
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@Dixoncider8142

1. I don't know. To me, CSM animation was fire and Mappa has been doing an amazing job with most of their projects.

2. It did have a cinematic feel to it so yeah, you're trippin.

& 3. If you think manga readers are right most of the time, then you're just blind.
There's a reason why most anime-only people don't listen to manga elitists because quite frankly, they complain about EVERYTHING.

I’m not even gonna give u any evidence at this point ur just a MAPPA fanboy who’s in denial and can’t accept that their projects for the past year have been in low quality.
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I don't get where the hate even came from. CSM S1 is a masterpiece, and argubly better produced than JJKS2. Yes, the plot wasn't too interesting in S1, but that isn't the anime's problem. S1's animation is insanely well, regardless of the use of cgi (which is needed anyway). I also loved the cinematic artstyle, its a shame that JJKS2 abandoned it later in the season.
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@Dixoncider8142

1. Art is subjective & I loved it, that I gave it a 9/10. You're also trippin if you think there wasn't any cinematic feel besides EP1.

& 2. Elitist Manga fans are toxic as hell and think most anime adaptations are "inferior".

They got the character designs perfectly I’ll give them that but the animation wasn’t at its best just like other MAPPA projects that they’ve done for the past year, also csm barely had any sakuga, I could only think of 2-3 scenes that had sakuga. Also it didn’t have a cinematic feel to it, I assure u I’m not tripping it’s just the truth.
Also manga readers are right 55-60% of the time
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They got the character designs perfectly I’ll give them that but the animation wasn’t at its best just like other MAPPA projects that they’ve done for the past year

Nah bro really is tripping. CSM, JJKS1 and AOT Final season are some of the best animated MAPPA works, and in the entirety of anime. Sakuga is such a vague word anyway.

Chatgpt defines it as "moments of exceptionally high-quality animation within a series or film. These moments often stand out due to their fluidity, attention to detail, and dynamic movement"

CSM has all over that, and I really don't know where you got your idea from that CSM didn't have sakuga. Im not even just talking about the background, but all the little attention to how characters move, how their hairs moves, fingers, even eyes. CSM did this perfectly.
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They got the character designs perfectly I’ll give them that but the animation wasn’t at its best just like other MAPPA projects that they’ve done for the past year

Nah bro really is tripping. CSM, JJKS1 and AOT Final season are some of the best animated MAPPA works, and in the entirety of anime. Sakuga is such a vague word anyway.

Chatgpt defines it as "moments of exceptionally high-quality animation within a series or film. These moments often stand out due to their fluidity, attention to detail, and dynamic movement"

CSM has all over that, and I really don't know where you got your idea from that CSM didn't have sakuga. Im not even just talking about the background, but all the little attention to how characters move, how their hairs moves, fingers, even eyes. CSM did this perfectly.
@Zimmu I agree that jjk season 1 had good animation, the final season of aot part 1 was good in terms of direction but had subpar animation compared to jjk s1. Not every action scene has sakuga, just to let you know. I want to know what parts you think have sakuga that's longer than 5 seconds bc ppl love pointing out anime having sakuga like within 30-50ms which is almost nothing not even the bare minimum. Most of the time csm looked normal, if anything the manga panels looked better than anything that the anime has adapted.
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Personally I think chainsaw man just had the media and negative stigma behind it. And mappa should have let shueisha handle most of the financing. Mainly on denji being a sex starved Virgin, it was bound to get negativity. Also they may have picked a wrong method to rely on bd sales. Those things are expensive and hikikomori/neet problem is real among men in japan.
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I don't get where the hate even came from. CSM S1 is a masterpiece, and argubly better produced than JJKS2. Yes, the plot wasn't too interesting in S1, but that isn't the anime's problem. S1's animation is insanely well, regardless of the use of cgi (which is needed anyway). I also loved the cinematic artstyle, its a shame that JJKS2 abandoned it later in the season.
@Zimmu hate definitely felt extremely forced if not intentional. I also think mappa targeted wrong demographics. Bds are expensive and shonen fanbases cannot afford it. Hikikomori/neet is a huge problem in japan. Who can dish out on 40k yen blu rays

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