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Oct 31, 2023 9:56 AM
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This episode might be the closest to death we've seen for Helck. Like seriously, it was life or death.

And seeing all those flashbacks and memories...Jesus Christ. This episode almost felt like an emotional journey. The feels were real.
Oct 31, 2023 11:58 AM
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I wonder why exactly Cless was able to (partially) oppose to the King's orders.
Helck's rage moments was epic! The art was amazing in some parts. Why exactly did Alicia stop him tho...?

So the little sword Helck gave Anne is a part of the Hero Slayer!
Oct 31, 2023 12:18 PM
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Poor Helck had to go through all that, felt bad for him.
Oct 31, 2023 12:32 PM
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A tragic ending for Cless, and Helck blaming himself for it, so sad.
On the other hand it seems his friends are still alive somewhere, I really hope he'll be able to save them.

I'm even more curious about that king now, after he survived a sword thrown at him. I wonder if he is even human at this point.
I guess we'll learn more about him at some point down the line.

I said it last time, but I'll say it again: I hope we'll get back to a more light-hearted tone soon :)
Oct 31, 2023 12:34 PM
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5 episodes and still counting, the flashback arc, yeah Helck deserves a long explanation on why a person with strong moral like him lose faith in humanity.
Oct 31, 2023 12:53 PM
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A tragic ending for Cless, and Helck blaming himself for it, so sad.
On the other hand it seems his friends are still alive somewhere, I really hope he'll be able to save them.

I'm even more curious about that king now, after he survived a sword thrown at him. I wonder if he is even human at this point.
I guess we'll learn more about him at some point down the line.

I said it last time, but I'll say it again: I hope we'll get back to a more light-hearted tone soon :)
@MeguSae38

It is kind of hard to believe this is the show that started off with cookings contests, card towers, and Helck riding a cat. The shifts in tone have been stark, to be certain.
Oct 31, 2023 1:32 PM
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it was a great episode

now we know more about him, poor guy...
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Oct 31, 2023 1:36 PM
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ROFL. This author only knows how to solve situations with deus ex outcomes. Cless managed to break the King's BS binding spell in the right moment in order to kill Mikaros and again, just because the author says so he's strong enough to even kill himself.

The elongated death of Cless (who we already knew he was going to die anyway) felt so overdramatic and so cheaply animated thru and thru.

The aftermath is an even worse joke than the evil mustache twirling villians with a couple of goons that COINCIDENTALLY had found Helck out in the middle of nowhere.
Oct 31, 2023 1:47 PM
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Helck releasing all his demons... this scene of his brother killing himself in front of him is very sad. :/
Oct 31, 2023 2:06 PM

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Ofc they had to rub salt in the would by showing that short at the end about Alicia happy just by being around Helck : (
Oct 31, 2023 2:19 PM
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I wonder if Helcks friends are still alive in the current time of the anime. I hope so.
Oct 31, 2023 2:22 PM

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I wonder if Helcks friends are still alive in the current time of the anime. I hope so.
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We know Edil and the big dude got turned into a brainwashed awakened angels, I guess Alicia ended up like that too. (we never saw the blonde one unmasked I think, must be her)

I also wonder what's up with the dark power, Cless seems to have artificially gotten it from Mikaros but I don't get how Helck has it as well, maybe it's the exact same power as the black knight too. (in which case there probably won't be a happy ending for Helck either)
Oct 31, 2023 2:50 PM
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ROFL. This author only knows how to solve situations with deus ex outcomes. Cless managed to break the King's BS binding spell in the right moment in order to kill Mikaros and again, just because the author says so he's strong enough to even kill himself.

The elongated death of Cless (who we already knew he was going to die anyway) felt so overdramatic and so cheaply animated thru and thru.

The aftermath is an even worse joke than the evil mustache twirling villians with a couple of goons that COINCIDENTALLY had found Helck out in the middle of nowhere.
@Kimurah For reals. I dont get all the gushing people are giving this episode. The writing has been god awful these past few episodes. This episode may be where I finally drop it.

Everything you said I agree with. Just want to add one more annoying part of this episode. Helck is about to go hulk on all the nobles after bro dies so we can at least get to enjoy some good ol fashioned revenge. But nope! Here enters the useless goody two shoes blonde girl to hug all his anger away because feelings.

The nobles walk away scott free. No revenge is had. We wont explain what happened after the hug and here is some comedy sketch. Crap writing at its best. Done with this.
Oct 31, 2023 2:55 PM
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Noooo! Helck's fury was truly something to behold. I really hope his friends are ok, but since we haven't saw them healthy in the present timeline, I'm not so sure this is going to end well. She should have just let Helck unleash his wrath on those nobles. Though, I guess based on how bad he was bleeding, she feared for his life. It was probably the right move.
Oct 31, 2023 2:56 PM
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Things got dark fast.
Oct 31, 2023 3:03 PM
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I knew Cless was going to kill himself leading to Helck going into rage mode. Somehow he survived all that and now Helck is riddled with despair of losing his only brother. The only glimmer of hope for Helck is that he can still save his friends.
Oct 31, 2023 4:14 PM

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Hitting the feels this episode and probably next one as well. Since this is a flash back we already know what happened to everyone just getting the details flushed out on how it happened.

Something that started off pretty light hearted got dark quick once they started hinting at the darkness he was holding in. As much as seeing him go hulk smash would have been cool it just goes to show how much a good guy he is with Alicia grounding his anger that was covering his exhaustion.

The ending was a bit weird with tweedledee and tweedledum some how tracking where he was put to recover, probably just to break tension but at a awkward time.
Oct 31, 2023 4:51 PM

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What a tragic outcome with Cless killing himself to get out of the king's mind control. Since Mikaros presumably got killed I figured that the plans to create heroes would've been done but since in Helck's present timeline there are heroes someone else must've taken over. On that note I fear for what has happened to Helck's friends, and I'm also curious what the king is since a stab to his forehead didn't seem to stop him.
Oct 31, 2023 5:26 PM

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Wish he slaughtered the senate.. but oh well.

picked this up expecting a typical hero show, but it's great story too.



Oct 31, 2023 5:33 PM

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most of the episode was a waste of time.
Oct 31, 2023 5:48 PM

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I'm glad the little bonus comic from volume five was animated.
Oct 31, 2023 7:04 PM

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Onward to episode six of the overly drawn out flashback arc
Oct 31, 2023 8:46 PM
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More pain coming in for Helck - especially seeing his companions turned into awakened humans right before his eyes.
Oct 31, 2023 9:44 PM

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They have to stop ending these episodes right as shit gets good 😩. Very hard episode to watch. Fuck Mikaros, the king and the nobles for exploiting their own people like this. It breaks my heart that Cless put all that work in protecting the kingdom only to come back to getting called low class vermin by those he was protecting.

Both the nobles and commoners did that now. It’s another example of how you’re only valuable to people when you can do things for them

That dark magic or energy that was coming from Helck was really interesting. Cless got that from Mikaros but Helck seems to naturally have it.. I wonder what it is.

We know that at least two of Helck’s companions will become awakened knights, next episode looks like it’ll be even more of a gut punch. I totally understand why Helck went to the demon kingdom now. The humans he experienced were more monsters than any demon ever was.
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Nov 1, 2023 12:16 AM

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Seeing such intense rage on a face that's known for being gentle has the impact of a freight train. The post credits scene with Alicia just sells it further (which was really cute for such a depressing episode btw)
Nov 1, 2023 12:30 AM
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Holy shit this show is getting dark...
Nov 1, 2023 12:54 AM

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Holy shit this show is getting dark...
@zamasz It gets darker next episode too. This whole flashback is basically things going from bad to worse and Helck basically deciding humanity must just end at that point, which is where we started the story at.
Nov 1, 2023 12:58 AM
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Helck was saved by his comrades, but they are in a great trouble, can helck save their lives.
Nov 1, 2023 2:27 AM

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Not vibing with the backstory to be honest
Nov 1, 2023 5:41 AM
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I love how this adapt true with the manga so far and the pace is not rushed and escalated quickly
the strong man like Helck with goodness in his heart being tested to the fullest
warm short story in the end, preparing tissue for the next week
Nov 1, 2023 6:24 AM
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Will this shit of an arc finally be over ?
Nov 1, 2023 7:06 AM

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I feel a bit annoyed how there was several opportunities to kill those old twats and no one took it.
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Nov 1, 2023 7:30 AM
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Wait so Human King can't be dead even after Cless making a hole on his head. So Mikaros can't be dead too, right? I doubt.

I don't like how you need Alicia to stop Helck from rampaging like that. Why you need woman as a cliche break? Helck honestly needs to put an end to those bunch of bastard first and Alicia can huge the big man to all of her content, but not with those plot smh.

This is actually a boring past by how the story goes. I hope the next will be the last spur, or else, to helck with this show!
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Nov 1, 2023 11:25 AM

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What an episode. Cless dying! The near death experience. The rage. That broken sword. Everything is explained and it is Sad AF.

I genuinely wish this anime had better animation, because the story keeps being good.

Nov 1, 2023 11:35 AM
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It's hilarious that the Recommendations page is still telling people this show is similar to Mashle, One Punch Man and "almost identical" to Yuusha Yamemasu.
Nov 1, 2023 1:46 PM
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So, how exactly did Helck get out to the cave? With cape neatly folded and food laid out, yet unconscious with all his friends captured and no sign of a rescuer when he awoke? This makes no sense.

And I get the whole "no, the hero can't kill in anger, that's the dark side" thing, but damn, Alicia should have just let Helck go to town on the nobles before stopping him. It's not like they didn't deserve it.

I'm pretty sure where this is going is that Mikaros is still around and will capture Helck himself and use him like Cless to turn everyone else, which is why he's the only one left in the end. Or perhaps Mikaros is gone but the king will do it. Either way, he's going to see it as his fault and that's why he goes off to join the demons.

I can't say all this backstory is uninteresting but it does seem to be dragging on a bit. I want to see more of the present day stuff.
Nov 1, 2023 3:14 PM
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Oh c'mon! Damned friends stopping his rampage! Couldn't even wait for him to finish off those nobles first.
Nov 1, 2023 8:51 PM
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Helck has a glimmer of hope
Nov 2, 2023 12:43 AM
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Bro pulled out the conq haki
Nov 2, 2023 4:40 AM
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I wonder why exactly Cless was able to (partially) oppose to the King's orders.
Helck's rage moments was epic! The art was amazing in some parts. Why exactly did Alicia stop him tho...?

So the little sword Helck gave Anne is a part of the Hero Slayer!

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Nov 2, 2023 2:31 PM
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So, how exactly did Helck get out to the cave? With cape neatly folded and food laid out, yet unconscious with all his friends captured and no sign of a rescuer when he awoke? This makes no sense.

And I get the whole "no, the hero can't kill in anger, that's the dark side" thing, but damn, Alicia should have just let Helck go to town on the nobles before stopping him. It's not like they didn't deserve it.

I'm pretty sure where this is going is that Mikaros is still around and will capture Helck himself and use him like Cless to turn everyone else, which is why he's the only one left in the end. Or perhaps Mikaros is gone but the king will do it. Either way, he's going to see it as his fault and that's why he goes off to join the demons.

I can't say all this backstory is uninteresting but it does seem to be dragging on a bit. I want to see more of the present day stuff.
@Mirality It's safe to say the group used that cave as a hideout, and Helck is too heavy to bring about constantly.
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I think it would’ve been better writing for this series if Helck had actually slaughtered those nobles. Not only is it better than they deserved, but it would be good framing for Helck’s current perspective that humans need to be eradicated, why couldn’t that have been the moment that idea started for him. Instead we get the same old tired trope that “our hero is righteous and he doesn’t kill civilians.”
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Helck's angry aura is very dangerous...
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Nov 7, 2023 4:39 PM

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A tragic ending for Cless, and Helck blaming himself for it, so sad.
On the other hand it seems his friends are still alive somewhere, I really hope he'll be able to save them.

I'm even more curious about that king now, after he survived a sword thrown at him. I wonder if he is even human at this point.
I guess we'll learn more about him at some point down the line.

I said it last time, but I'll say it again: I hope we'll get back to a more light-hearted tone soon :)
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On the other hand it seems his friends are still alive somewhere, I really hope he'll be able to save them.


What do you mean "still alive somewhere"...

We literally started and ended the first half of this anime with it revealing Helck ending up fighting against his former friends and the friends wants Helck dead...

This mean they ARE "still alive", but not somewhere, they're still attacking the Demon Country while Helck is telling this Flackback story to Vami.

Just that all of Helck's friends are now under the control of the King. (since they "died" and is then "revived" they are now unable to oppose the King)

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As for the King, I am pretty sure that masked person on the throne wasn't the actual king, but rather just a hollow armor, the King is most likely somewhere else.
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that terrifying anger rage of Helck! absolute performance by VA Katsuyuki Konishi!
5/5.
ok i get it! it was not helck that killed Cless! it was Cless's own sacrifice! damn! poor Helck! everything he has been! that's colossally frustrating!


Nov 12, 2023 5:01 AM
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Damn, this is really quite the flashback as we now know that Helck didn't actually kill Cless rather he stabbed himself in order to protect him. His comrades did much of the same but it seems like he remained guilty for not doing more than he did.

That ending scene tells me that Alicia's death comes next as the flashback wraps up.
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Down but not out, Helck feels pain for the first time due to the Hero Slayer sword, and the stroke of luck that Cless momentarily came back to his senses to defeat Mikaros, it seems that the king's orders are still absolute, and to atone for his sins, decides to kill himself to the dismay of Helck. As if the senators are too gloated about their plan, Helck unleashes his dark power to everyone's dismay, which by the extent, Alicia managed to stop him before he goes berserk.

With Alicia, Edil and Zeruzeon protecting him, Helck sees life flashing before his very eyes: his past with Cless, which subsequently, Helck finds himself hidden in a cave, and led outside from the sounds of bandits searching after him with a bounty on his head. Helck blaming himself that he did not manage to save each and every one of his friends, though word from them them that they're still alive, there is still hope to change the future.

The awakened Helck...what's he to do now?
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As a person who is grieving the death of a sibling, this one is pretty spicy.
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he should've obliterated those damn nobles, but that wouldn't really quell his anger he felt for the betrayal they dealt him with. and that king...was that king just a figment and it was actually that raphaed guy or something?
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It's hilarious that the Recommendations page is still telling people this show is similar to Mashle, One Punch Man and "almost identical" to Yuusha Yamemasu.
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