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Apr 13, 2023 7:53 PM
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I just read this interesting quote from a poster, Rohan_Uchiha, in the episode discussion thread

"This was some Naruto filler level shit, 2 different stories 12 min each. WIT has clearly made a very bad decision to leave AOT and Vinland Saga to do this and SPYxFAMILY"

and it got me thinking a little bit.

This episode really DID play out like your typical filler from your favorite battle shounen, short episodic slice of life moments, split into a couple of parts, aimed at either some sort of fanservice (whether it be interactions with popular characters, etc) or moral lessons/character growth oriented.

Filler has been infamously hated on since forever, not sure what the ratio would be, but nevertheless, a lot of people look down upon filler episodes/arcs when far more interesting things could/should be happening.

So does this get a free pass? Simply because it's a popular show? Did you also praise filler in other anime? Food for thought.
Apr 13, 2023 7:59 PM
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You again spamming flamebait threads while hate-watching Ousama Ranking stuff?

Don't you have better things to do with your time than creating pointless drama to try making people despise this as much as you do?
Apr 13, 2023 8:05 PM
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You again spamming flamebait threads while hate-watching Ousama Ranking stuff?

Don't you have better things to do with your time than creating pointless drama to try making people despise this as much as you do?
I thought he brought up a interesting point, my threads are pretty coherent and open to discussion, not sure what the problem is here, unless you simply believe we shouldn't be able to make multiple threads and/or criticize/discuss the show, which is simply ridiculous.

Not hate watching it either, have it at a 5/10 right now, which is simply average in my book.
Apr 13, 2023 8:22 PM
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
Danpmss said:
You again spamming flamebait threads while hate-watching Ousama Ranking stuff?

Don't you have better things to do with your time than creating pointless drama to try making people despise this as much as you do?
I thought he brought up a interesting point, my threads are pretty coherent and open to discussion, not sure what the problem is here, unless you simply believe we shouldn't be able to make multiple threads and/or criticize/discuss the show, which is simply ridiculous.

Not hate watching it either, have it at a 5/10 right now, which is simply average in my book.
If that was really the case, you wouldn't be attention-seeking by making an entire new thread on it, and instead would have kept it as a reply on the thread you saw such a comment.

You have quite the history of spamming pointless rant-filled threads like this, just another example in a sea of flamebait from you, as your forum posts will indicate anyone who visits your profile.

No need to mask your distaste and quest for validation against this IP, I've seen more than enough from the original run's board. Honestly, I think I kinda said this same thing to you a number of times some months ago, I'm not sure myself why I even bother. Feel free to just ignore me at this point, I might just do the very same.
Apr 13, 2023 8:30 PM
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Danpmss said:
GakutoDeathGlare said:
I thought he brought up a interesting point, my threads are pretty coherent and open to discussion, not sure what the problem is here, unless you simply believe we shouldn't be able to make multiple threads and/or criticize/discuss the show, which is simply ridiculous.

Not hate watching it either, have it at a 5/10 right now, which is simply average in my book.
If that was really the case, you wouldn't be attention-seeking by making an entire new thread on it, and instead would have kept it as a reply on the thread you saw such a comment.

You have quite the history of spamming pointless rant-filled threads like this, just another example in a sea of flamebait from you, as your forum posts will indicate anyone who visits your profile.

No need to mask your distaste and quest for validation against this IP, I've seen more than enough from the original run's board. Honestly, I think I kinda said this same thing to you a number of times some months ago, I'm not sure myself why I even bother. Feel free to just ignore me at this point, I might just do the very same.
It would get pretty off topic if I said all this on the episode discussion thread lol, are you serious right now? Pointless, only in your opinion, you kindly left that part out.

Ranting at a differing opinion and discussion topic and then quickly bailing, lol cool. What was the point in all that, white knighting for this series? Or to just have a go at me ๐Ÿ™„

Apr 13, 2023 9:09 PM
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I think that the content of this episode is maybe about as good, maybe slightly better than your average filler but with better visual production. The second half of the main series was pretty rushed so I think people are okay with getting a bit more content to flesh out that part. Also, filler is hated on a good bit, but a lot of people still watch it if the show isn't known to put out bad filler. Honestly, if Wit Studio came out with a solid side story for Ranking of Kings that was well written original content, I'd call that good filler and would gladly welcome it, but that is yet to be seen. 
Apr 13, 2023 9:39 PM
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well, the score is nowhere near as high as season 1, so this thread is stupid. it would make sense to tell people this if this was just as highly rated as the original, or at least close.

plus, filler is rarely if ever this well animated.
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Apolygon2 said:
well, the score is nowhere near as high as season 1, so this thread is stupid. it would make sense to tell people this if this was just as highly rated as the original, or at least close.

plus, filler is rarely if ever this well animated.
That's a logical fallacy, my guy. Have a read, especially under Red Herring fallacies List of fallacies

Dampmss could have a read as well, Appeal to motive fallacy is also written there.
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I think that the content of this episode is maybe about as good, maybe slightly better than your average filler but with better visual production. The second half of the main series was pretty rushed so I think people are okay with getting a bit more content to flesh out that part. Also, filler is hated on a good bit, but a lot of people still watch it if the show isn't known to put out bad filler. Honestly, if Wit Studio came out with a solid side story for Ranking of Kings that was well written original content, I'd call that good filler and would gladly welcome it, but that is yet to be seen. 
Interesting perspective. I didn't really think about the production side of filler episodes, good quality audiovisuals can definitely make up for it in some ways.
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I just read this interesting quote from a poster, Rohan_Uchiha, in the episode discussion thread

"This was some Naruto filler level shit, 2 different stories 12 min each. WIT has clearly made a very bad decision to leave AOT and Vinland Saga to do this and SPYxFAMILY"

and it got me thinking a little bit.
GakutoDeathGlare said:
I just read this interesting quote from a poster, Rohan_Uchiha, in the episode discussion thread

"This was some Naruto filler level shit, 2 different stories 12 min each. WIT has clearly made a very bad decision to leave AOT and Vinland Saga to do this and SPYxFAMILY"

and it got me thinking a little bit.

This episode really DID play out like your typical filler from your favorite battle shounen, short episodic slice of life moments, split into a couple of parts, aimed at either some sort of fanservice (whether it be interactions with popular characters, etc) or moral lessons/character growth oriented.

Filler has been infamously hated on since forever, not sure what the ratio would be, but nevertheless, a lot of people look down upon filler episodes/arcs when far more interesting things could/should be happening.

So does this get a free pass? Simply because it's a popular show? Did you also praise filler in other anime? Food for thought. 

Wit left AOT because of production timing & left Vinland Saga because of some episodes they couldn't make well and fans yelled about it. And wit is a really small studio. That's why they right now are focusing on earning money and I don't see any problem in that. Ousama ranking and SpyxFamily both did well in Japan & worldwide. So, they'll be milking their best from it. But I don't accept the concept that the 1st episode was a Naruto level filler. It's more better than that.

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Apr 14, 2023 12:37 AM

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Filler is a lot more offensive when it interrupts a canon storyline. This entire season is a spinoff series that provides filler for the people that seek out more content. It adapts skipped chapters/extras and adds some anime original stuff too. It doesn't interfere with the pacing of the main story in any way and it was never marketed as a continuation of the main story  - thus, people aren't gonna be as upset about it. Season 2 isn't even announced (the manga isn't very far ahead) so not too many people had their expectations betrayed. 
 
Now, it would be a different story if these episodes came out in the middle of season 1 and ruined the pacing.
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There he is again. Was waiting for this^^

Have a good one :)
Apr 14, 2023 1:10 AM

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Bandanaa said:
Filler is a lot more offensive when it interrupts a canon storyline. This entire season is a spinoff series that provides filler for the people that seek out more content. It adapts skipped chapters/extras and adds some anime original stuff too. It doesn't interfere with the pacing of the main story in any way and it was never marketed as a continuation of the main story  - thus, people aren't gonna be as upset about it. Season 2 isn't even announced (the manga isn't very far ahead) so not too many people had their expectations betrayed. 
 
Now, it would be a different story if these episodes came out in the middle of season 1 and ruined the pacing.
Yes, this a good point, filler in the middle of a story line can ruin enjoyment immensely. A lot of filler that I've seen though are immediately following an arc, the opposite to a lot Naruto like filler arcs. Good, thoughtful post. If only we could all stay on track ↓↓↓↓

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There he is again. Was waiting for this^^

Have a good one :)
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Apr 14, 2023 2:01 AM

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I mean the overall rating is significantly lower than the first production and less people are watching it. Calma.


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first thing, i feel like the original quote you provided doesn't make a lot of sense in the first place. and that's because there are facets and circumstances to production that could easily explain wit's move to other projects. for instance, it is pretty widely known that anime studios work quite often in a similar capacity to contractors. that is to say, they are basically paid some fee in advance (or something along these lines) to make a show for all sorts of interested parties, that in turn are the ones benefitting if the anime and the brand explode in popularity due to the adaptation.

so, it can easily be more profitable for an anime studio to work on a smaller show, if they happen to have an agreement, or are in a position that allows them to reap more rewards. i can't tell you if that's the exact situation here, as there are other elements in play, such as scheduling, burnout and interest in other projects within the creative team and so on, but another example for this can be kyoani, that historically did not continue some of its more popular adaptations, in favor of originals or adaptations of works from companies they have closer ties to and i'm sure there are many more examples.

secondly and on a more opinionated note, i strongly disagree with the comparison to naruto fillers. while the first episode of this show is 'filler-ish' in nature (as in not being relevant to the main narrative of the series), i thought it was pretty charming, well made and in line with the spirit of the the show at large, something that cannot be said regarding the creatively bankrupt trash that most often is a filler arc in longer battle shounen, that simply exists to give the manga time to get ahead and due to the archaic constraints of an ongoing format for a tv anime.

so to sum it all up, of course you don't have to like the show, or these side stories and i can't even tell you if i will end up finishing this season, but still, in my opinion, there's no hypocrisy to be had here and it's perfectly fair to like and support this, while criticising classic filler, due to a difference in merit, rather than simply going with some bandwagon, as you seem to imply.
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I haven't watched the Ousama Ranking episode yet this thread is based around. But regarding the actual question about filler episodes. I usually don't like em, with already complete series I sometimes skip throught them or skip them at all. 
BUT.. I remember that when watching one particular filler episodes in Black Clover I honestly thought of it as being the best episode yet. (even though I stopped the show around ep. 153 some months ago, I will eventually finish it..) 

Okay I looked it up. It was Episode 28, which was like one of the first filler episodes and and had this Dating theme going on that was just so well executed. I remember the humor being just superb.
And I think there was also a follow up or Part 2 to this filler one but I don't remember anything specific about it.

But the point is. There ARE filler episodes that can be super enjoying. It is just the execution of it that matters! ...and of course personal taste.
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
I just read this interesting quote from a poster, Rohan_Uchiha, in the episode discussion thread

"This was some Naruto filler level shit, 2 different stories 12 min each. WIT has clearly made a very bad decision to leave AOT and Vinland Saga to do this and SPYxFAMILY"

and it got me thinking a little bit.

This episode really DID play out like your typical filler from your favorite battle shounen, short episodic slice of life moments, split into a couple of parts, aimed at either some sort of fanservice (whether it be interactions with popular characters, etc) or moral lessons/character growth oriented.

Filler has been infamously hated on since forever, not sure what the ratio would be, but nevertheless, a lot of people look down upon filler episodes/arcs when far more interesting things could/should be happening.

So does this get a free pass? Simply because it's a popular show? Did you also praise filler in other anime? Food for thought.

This gets a free pass because it was advertised as side stories months ago and this is just side content that you don't need to watch. Stop complaining like some kindergarteners nobody forces you to watch it
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A spin-off is not filler. Filler are anime original episodes made while waiting for more source material to adapt. This is literally just 10 episodes of short stories.
Did you make a similar thread for the KonoSuba spinoff? No? Slight hypocrisy going on?
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
I just read this interesting quote from a poster, Rohan_Uchiha, in the episode discussion thread

"This was some Naruto filler level shit, 2 different stories 12 min each. WIT has clearly made a very bad decision to leave AOT and Vinland Saga to do this and SPYxFAMILY"

and it got me thinking a little bit.

This episode really DID play out like your typical filler from your favorite battle shounen, short episodic slice of life moments, split into a couple of parts, aimed at either some sort of fanservice (whether it be interactions with popular characters, etc) or moral lessons/character growth oriented.

Filler has been infamously hated on since forever, not sure what the ratio would be, but nevertheless, a lot of people look down upon filler episodes/arcs when far more interesting things could/should be happening.

So does this get a free pass? Simply because it's a popular show? Did you also praise filler in other anime? Food for thought.
the first episode was one of the biggest letdowns I've ever had, so I'm not gonna call this trash good even though I liked the main series a lot
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There he is
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I loved the episode, the animation is gorgerous and the little stories are cute.
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It's a spin-off for a reason.
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It is different from filler as it doesn't interrupt the main narrative and these episodes are part of a completely new season. That's like saying ovas bundles with volumes or tv specials are filler, they are extra content that you can choose not to watch.
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Bandanaa said:
Filler is a lot more offensive when it interrupts a canon storyline. This entire season is a spinoff series that provides filler for the people that seek out more content. It adapts skipped chapters/extras and adds some anime original stuff too. It doesn't interfere with the pacing of the main story in any way and it was never marketed as a continuation of the main story  - thus, people aren't gonna be as upset about it. Season 2 isn't even announced (the manga isn't very far ahead) so not too many people had their expectations betrayed. 
 
Now, it would be a different story if these episodes came out in the middle of season 1 and ruined the pacing.
He said exactly what I was here to say, this is an OVA and should be treated as such.
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
Apolygon2 said:
well, the score is nowhere near as high as season 1, so this thread is stupid. it would make sense to tell people this if this was just as highly rated as the original, or at least close.

plus, filler is rarely if ever this well animated.
That's a logical fallacy, my guy. Have a read, especially under Red Herring fallacies List of fallacies

Dampmss could have a read as well, Appeal to motive fallacy is also written there.



bruh... its pretty straight forward. people like it less. the fuck is the wiki page for?

its not just rating, if you go on the episode discussion page half the people are calling it "meh".

and season one started as 8+ despite having next to 0 hype behind it.
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Since this is not a sequel, you could indeed look at it as filler, as in an extra for people who really loved the first season.
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The production value is pretty quality but yeah, this is absolutely filler level content. I would say that I prefer it to be confined to its own series rather than being injected into the show. At least you can watch this at your own pace or skip it all together. For that reason I don't think it deserves to be compared to Naruto filler. I will say, it does make it harder to wait for the real content when I know there is something with the "Ranking of King" title going on and I am still waiting for season 2.
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If that was really the case, you wouldn't be attention-seeking by making an entire new thread on it, and instead would have kept it as a reply on the thread you saw such a comment.
Based.

You have quite the history of spamming pointless rant-filled threads like this, just another example in a sea of flamebait from you, as your forum posts will indicate anyone who visits your profile.
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I'm not aware of the OPs post history. In a vacuum, ignoring whatever they said in the past, I agree with the sentiment and am surprised by the attacks at them.

Filler should not be celebrated. I don't want to give production companies the idea that they can go back to the days of Naruto and Bleach filler.

That said, the idea that we can just ignore this story for now is an OK idea too. There is plenty of other things to watch...we have lots of options nowadays.
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I'm not aware of the OPs post history. In a vacuum, ignoring whatever they said in the past, I agree with the sentiment and am surprised by the attacks at them.

Filler should not be celebrated. I don't want to give production companies the idea that they can go back to the days of Naruto and Bleach filler.

That said, the idea that we can just ignore this story for now is an OK idea too. There is plenty of other things to watch...we have lots of options nowadays.
It's just the usual suspects with their incessant mud slinging at people who have different views on shows, especially when it's to do with their favorites. Supposedly you can't make multiple threads on the same anime, without being called out like this. Ridiculous, isn't it?
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
uuuuno said:
I'm not aware of the OPs post history. In a vacuum, ignoring whatever they said in the past, I agree with the sentiment and am surprised by the attacks at them.

Filler should not be celebrated. I don't want to give production companies the idea that they can go back to the days of Naruto and Bleach filler.

That said, the idea that we can just ignore this story for now is an OK idea too. There is plenty of other things to watch...we have lots of options nowadays.
It's just the usual suspects with their incessant mud slinging at people who have different views on shows, especially when it's to do with their favorites. Supposedly you can't make multiple threads on the same anime, without being called out like this. Ridiculous, isn't it?
Yeah, pretty ridiculous. I came here after beginning the first (and only) episode of this "season". After a few minutes in I thought "wait, is this filler?" then searched to confirm.

Even though I wasn't hot about the idea of stories taking place before the end of season 1, it didn't cross my mind that it would also be filler. Until I began the episode and my filler-senses started tingling.

I came here hoping to find like-minded folk that were also disappointed learning that this would be non-canon. That's a major reason why people come to forums...to find like-minded people. So everyone reading this, continue speaking your ideas, despite any backlash. Because there's a good chance there will be those that agree with your thoughts, even if it goes against the (seemingly) majority opinion on the board.
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
uuuuno said:
I'm not aware of the OPs post history. In a vacuum, ignoring whatever they said in the past, I agree with the sentiment and am surprised by the attacks at them.

Filler should not be celebrated. I don't want to give production companies the idea that they can go back to the days of Naruto and Bleach filler.

That said, the idea that we can just ignore this story for now is an OK idea too. There is plenty of other things to watch...we have lots of options nowadays.
It's just the usual suspects with their incessant mud slinging at people who have different views on shows, especially when it's to do with their favorites. Supposedly you can't make multiple threads on the same anime, without being called out like this. Ridiculous, isn't it?


oooooor....you talk a lot of trash and jump on this Series like you're acting out some Cartoon-Villain Roleplay, everytime a new Episode of this Franchise comes out xD  Your obession is creepy.
That could be it, couldn't it?^^

But maybe everyone is just beeing ridiculous :P You might be right.
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Merve2Love said:
GakutoDeathGlare said:
It's just the usual suspects with their incessant mud slinging at people who have different views on shows, especially when it's to do with their favorites. Supposedly you can't make multiple threads on the same anime, without being called out like this. Ridiculous, isn't it?


oooooor....you talk a lot of trash and jump on this Series like you're acting out some Cartoon-Villain Roleplay, everytime a new Episode of this Franchise comes out xD  Your obession is creepy.
That could be it, couldn't it?^^

But maybe everyone is just beeing ridiculous :P You might be right.
"Your obsession is creepy" Pretty ironic, considering you can't stop jumping down my throat at anything that I have to say, never on topic in a thread.
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uuuuno said:
GakutoDeathGlare said:
It's just the usual suspects with their incessant mud slinging at people who have different views on shows, especially when it's to do with their favorites. Supposedly you can't make multiple threads on the same anime, without being called out like this. Ridiculous, isn't it?
So everyone reading this, continue speaking your ideas, despite any backlash. Because there's a good chance there will be those that agree with your thoughts, even if it goes against the (seemingly) majority opinion on the board.
Thanks for the words, and yeah, I will continue to speak my mind and create many, many threads in the future (unless I start to really enjoy it).
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
Merve2Love said:


oooooor....you talk a lot of trash and jump on this Series like you're acting out some Cartoon-Villain Roleplay, everytime a new Episode of this Franchise comes out xD  Your obession is creepy.
That could be it, couldn't it?^^

But maybe everyone is just beeing ridiculous :P You might be right.
"Your obsession is creepy" Pretty ironic, considering you can't stop jumping down my throat at anything that I have to say, never on topic in a thread. 

Cause you're not actually have any points. You're just starting Threads for the sake of it. And it's never ending. There's always a new thing about the Show that will make you start all over again xD You're way too into it.
Or maybe you're just a very persistent Troll. If so you're very successful xD

Either way, hope I didn't offend you or anything.

Don't get me wrong. You CAN be creepy and/or obsessed, if you want. That's alright.
But the way you don't seem to understand why people react a certain way made me wanna explain^^ 
End of the day: No offense. You do you. I hope these reactions or comments don't hurt you too much, but I also think you should kinda understand/expect that, at this point. You feel me? :)
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Typical thread of hater no.1 of Ousama Ranking, things never change. It's hard to take his points serious at this point, just laugh with him.
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Because this is fun and I enjoy the characters. This isn't nearly like Naruto just making up bs to pad things out. Its adapting side chapters and showing things the first season expected us to just connect on our own. 
Apr 27, 2023 2:14 PM
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GakutoDeathGlare said:
uuuuno said:
So everyone reading this, continue speaking your ideas, despite any backlash. Because there's a good chance there will be those that agree with your thoughts, even if it goes against the (seemingly) majority opinion on the board.
Thanks for the words, and yeah, I will continue to speak my mind and create many, many threads in the future (unless I start to really enjoy it).
Saying you're going to actively hate on a series instead of just watching something you enjoy is pathetic. Tiny insect. 
Jan 26, 2024 3:22 AM

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If you read through the episode discussion, then a lot of people complained about this filler season. So your complaint is weird, people already dislike this more than season 1.

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