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Jan 28, 2023 7:58 AM
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Damn, these trials are tough, probably tougher than anything these students faced before.

Episode felt like it's kind all over the place with the stakes of the trials and various characters getting their spotlight. Lay in particular took on his challenge without fear. Misa also played an important role in helping him and I think she has a lot of potential. That cliffhanger though.
Jan 28, 2023 8:37 AM
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wow, today's episode was one of the best I have seen.

All characters has there own unique role and especially lay and misa teamwork is growing and they were the first one's to face against the spirit king.

overall ep was amazing looking forward to the next ep.
Jan 28, 2023 9:46 AM
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WAIT. HUH??!?! So Misa was a traitor??? Or is that just her other half?? Holy plot twist I did not expect that at all. Next week is gonna be crazy.

On another note, the amount of new lore and names they’ve been dropping on us the last couple episodes is kinda overwhelming lol.
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Jan 28, 2023 10:10 AM
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very interesting episode with good grapichs
misa is avos
Jan 28, 2023 10:27 AM
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With the written exam passed, Enyunien's Spirit Trials continue, and that's still to say that the Four Evil Royals still has some manipulating done. Anos, of course, did his own preparation to get 4 out of 5 doors right, and they did by himself, Misa and Lay. Lena herself providing intel of use inward for Anos to move forward, and Jiste appears to complete the puzzle of the convoluted drama, saving the King of Curses Kyhilam Jiste and Anos's subordinates. This is the same for Misa and Lay finding the Hidden Wolf Gennul, and letting them pass ahead with the trial to meet the Spirit King.

The trial to defeat the Spirit King only using Spirits, and the Hidden Wolf Trial with Gennul to capture him, was dealt with time to spare. The Hero with the half-Spirit try their best, and the Four Evil Royals pinch Anos and his friends even further with the Spirit's Trials, but while it's nothing that Anos cannot deal with, Lay unfortunately lost Misa to the Spirit King, which judging by his sword skills, it's Shin Regalia staging himself as Avos Dilhevia...that turned to be Misa?

What a cliffhanger.
Jan 28, 2023 10:36 AM
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In all honesty plenty of things are happening at the same time that it's really difficult to care about any. I don't know if they're rushing the content or it was originally that way but please give some space to breathe.

Though that's a criminal cliffhanger to leave things off.
Jan 28, 2023 10:45 AM
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Mad wasn’t expecting that ending?!!
Jan 28, 2023 10:52 AM
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Talk about a twist Wtf!!! Misa betraying them all!!! I didn't see that coming. Its hard for this show to surprise me given how overpowered Anos is so we know things will generally work at in the end but that was a curveball. Definitely a wild after credits scene that blew my mind. But leading up to that was exciting. Anos out smarting the tree spirit to get past the staircase trial was cool. Disguising everyone to look like him so no specific staircase he chose could be tampered with. Worked out well since Anos himself choose a correct path and so did Lay and Misa. I should've been clued into something being up with Misa once that giant lightning wolf spirit let her and Lay pass immediately while not letting Anos pass like that. I liked seeing Anos figure out the trick of that spirit wolf by closing his eyes to see after it disappeared. Lay fighting the Spirit King aka Shin, as most people thought, was nice. Good old fashioned spirit fights enhanced with magic and seals are always a good time. Lay picked up on the Spirit King knowing whom he is by the end which clued him in that it's Shin. Miss getting stabbed by the Spirit King I didn't see coming either. Did she fake that, did the Spirit King fake it, was she actually ok, is there two of her or something, I have no idea what's could happen next now.
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Jan 28, 2023 11:28 AM
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Wtf, Damnnnn, I was not prepared for that
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Jan 28, 2023 11:49 AM
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Hell of a plot twist! It just got way too interesting!!
Jan 28, 2023 12:12 PM

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Wait Misa???!!! Didn't expect that at all. Need the next episode rn. 
Jan 28, 2023 12:14 PM
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Interesting plot twist, but I do have to say I’m having a hard time following everything in season 2. Is it skipping a lot of lore in the manga or something? It feels pretty confusing.
Jan 28, 2023 12:45 PM
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Man, this is so confusing to follow. I'm just here for Anos though, he's gonna clear everything up.
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Jan 28, 2023 12:46 PM

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This season is a complete disappointment. The first season had its moments of cringe but it was a lot of fun. This season is just random nonsense constantly. What a bummer.
Jan 28, 2023 2:09 PM

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Those fools need to understand that they already lost before they start a duel against Anos, they are just deciding how they are going to die. No idea what's going on.
Jan 28, 2023 2:17 PM

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Fucking epic twist...

Who saw that coming, not a fucking one of us.

Well I expect Anos had a clue.

Can't wait for next week.

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Jan 28, 2023 2:19 PM

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"So it was you, Misa".
And somehow got a bit hyped because I mixed Misha and Misa and thought they'd actually take risks.

The battle with that other demon king was a letdown, his subordinate was at least interesting with the wits challenge, this one was felt just like walmart-tier villain to fill minutes so they could end with the twist.
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Jan 28, 2023 2:29 PM
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omg Misa spirit god are so btfl 🛐🛐 i wait the next ep !
Jan 28, 2023 2:52 PM

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HUH

I was gonna come comment about Misa x Lay as I was watching the episode.

But instead I came here to comment about the Plot Twist, LOL.

___ ___ ___

MISA?

So... somehow she's Gigabaiting everyone by disguising as a regular student that just recently found out she's half spirit



___ ___ ___

And what happened to Lenas (the supposed Mother Spirit that's also suppose to be Misa's Mother?)

And Shin Reglia... I take it the dude died? since basing on Lena at the sword saying she must meet the Spirit King, as it suggests Shin to be the Spirit King.



___ ___ ___

Meanwhile, Avos
continues to brainwash everyone to kill Anos.

Also, how have the "Gods" that's suppose to know everything including telling others Anos is the true Demon Lord, not know about Avos? And didn't do anything to prevent Avos from continuing to brainwash others. Or did Avos somehow able to brainwash the Gods too? huh...

(other thing, in previous episode, the triplet spirits sniffa Misa saying she smelled like Lenas and said they can't reveal who's Misa's father under Spirit King's orders...

)
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Jan 28, 2023 3:16 PM

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lol didn't expect that twist
Jan 28, 2023 3:25 PM
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jaamun100 said:
Interesting plot twist, but I do have to say I’m having a hard time following everything in season 2. Is it skipping a lot of lore in the manga or something? It feels pretty confusing.

No, it's not skipping the story but the explanation of the abilities.
Jan 28, 2023 3:28 PM
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dude what happened to anos, what is this
Jan 28, 2023 3:45 PM
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This episode was so so good!!

From Lay and Misa working together in the fight to Anos being a Chad MC again against Girishiris

Bro that cliffhanger is leaving me on edge, I gotta wait another weeeeeekkkk.



Jan 28, 2023 3:54 PM

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That cliffhanger was so unfair. Like where did it come from?

A lot of things are happening all at once. I wonder which one Anos will prioritise.

Jan 28, 2023 5:02 PM
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So suprised that misa was the traitor never expected that coming.
Jan 28, 2023 5:13 PM

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once again really fast but enjoyable. maybe too fast, i kind of had a hard time keeping up with wtf was going on.
Jan 28, 2023 5:14 PM
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Wow, I honestly never expected Misa to be a villain before this episode, but the reveal was kinda cool, she’s a goth queen now lol, giving me step on me energy. I’ll say tho, when Misa first transformed with that blue hair I was sus since she looked similar to the promotional art for the season, and low and behold lol. Thankfully I saw some folks explaining things in more detail too because I was a little lost but I think I get what’s happening now.

This episode was yet another jam packed one tho, it feels kinda rushed but also not at the same time, because it’s believable that Anos would win a lot of these situations quickly but of course I wish they had a bit of breathing room for these fights. The Evil King Anos defeated at the end (can’t remember his name, there’s so many lol) was a defeat I saw coming immediately tho, and that was because he was using “2000 year old magic” and that made me think instantly how Anos probably made it or some shit, and turns out it was an abandoned magic for a reason lol. But man it really hurts for Lay especially that Misa is a villainess, but who knows, maybe she can be spared and redeemed because it looked like they shared real love.
Jan 28, 2023 5:19 PM

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In the next episode: the almighty power of love is going to make Lay pull a switcheroo to the enemy's camp so he can stay close to Misa!
Or at least I imagine that's what gonna happen because I don't think those two lovebirds can be separated anymore.
Jan 28, 2023 5:24 PM
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spider man meme bro
Avos Ray and now Misa  Avos
god damn
Jan 28, 2023 5:50 PM
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Incredibly low production quality on this episode, with a contrived cliffhanger and what feels like 10 episodes crammed into one. They really dropped the ball this time.
Jan 28, 2023 6:30 PM

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Things are gonna get spicy with Misa being Avos, and infighting between highbloods and lowbloods set to come. 

And I knew that she was hot from just the key visual, but damn does it hit harder in the actual show




Jan 28, 2023 6:34 PM

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Honestly idk why so many of you are hyped, I don't know wtf was going on with this episode. Really hard to follow what's happening and even harder to care cause the whole tree trials thing is boring as hell. What's the point of judging Anos in trials if they know he's the superior being above all etc in the first place?? The attack effects were cool and stuff but overall a big let down, same with last weeks ep
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Jan 28, 2023 6:48 PM
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i didn't understand anything of the episode. the magic the main character used was incomprehensible.
Jan 28, 2023 7:14 PM
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Mm yeah I still haven't really understood what's been going on the entire season but regardless, I look forward to Saturdays to see Anos~

Lots of cool and hot frames in this episode 😳 But also a few funny-looking ones ngl

Hmm interesting, this could serve as inspiration for a fanfic scenario

The fujos are going to enjoy this part

Man this makes my blood boil, not only are they completely disrespecting and threatening Anos but also preaching genocide for non-"purebloods," how horrible!
Jan 28, 2023 7:25 PM

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Cool episode, this season is getting interesting.
I get to see Misa as an antagonist, wow...
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It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Jan 28, 2023 7:42 PM

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Bruh Misa going crazy this episode, first turning into Hatsune Miku and then into an evil goth girl lol.

Never ending plan to watch list...

Jan 28, 2023 8:16 PM
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In all honesty plenty of things are happening at the same time that it's really difficult to care about any. I don't know if they're rushing the content or it was originally that way but please give some space to breathe.

Though that's a criminal cliffhanger to leave things off.

Yeah I also think it’s pretty boring and hard to follow because of the excessive lore and flashy names , pretty much a Shield Hero S2 syndrome is happening all over again
Jan 28, 2023 8:18 PM
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This season is a complete disappointment. The first season had its moments of cringe but it was a lot of fun. This season is just random nonsense constantly. What a bummer.

Yeah excessive lore and overintroduction of characters make it hard to follow imo
Jan 28, 2023 8:22 PM

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I really dont care about anything thats happening right now. It's just so random, and all the stuff about demons or spirits or whatever is poorly explained.

Dont remember if season 1 was this big of a mess or not
Jan 28, 2023 8:32 PM
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amlg said:
HUH

I was gonna come comment about Misa x Lay as I was watching the episode.

But instead I came here to comment about the Plot Twist, LOL.

___ ___ ___

MISA?

So... somehow she's Gigabaiting everyone by disguising as a regular student that just recently found out she's half spirit



___ ___ ___

And what happened to Lenas (the supposed Mother Spirit that's also suppose to be Misa's Mother?)

And Shin Reglia... I take it the dude died? since basing on Lena at the sword saying she must meet the Spirit King, as it suggests Shin to be the Spirit King.



___ ___ ___

Meanwhile, Avos
continues to brainwash everyone to kill Anos.

Also, how have the "Gods" that's suppose to know everything including telling others Anos is the true Demon Lord, not know about Avos? And didn't do anything to prevent Avos from continuing to brainwash others. Or did Avos somehow able to brainwash the Gods too? huh...

(other thing, in previous episode, the triplet spirits sniffa Misa saying she smelled like Lenas and said they can't reveal who's Misa's father under Spirit King's orders...

)

Same here. 🧐🧐
Jan 28, 2023 8:40 PM

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oh, that was a twist i didn't see coming lol
Jan 28, 2023 11:52 PM
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Lay 🤝Misa
being Avos Dilhevia
Jan 29, 2023 12:07 AM
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wow i didn't see that comming misa being avos dilheavea.. i wonder what lay is going to do now that his waifu is a traitor 
Jan 29, 2023 12:22 AM

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Damn so it was Misa all along, she tricked everyone.
Jan 29, 2023 12:24 AM
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Also , Ageis and anos interraction was so intense and intresting.

can't wait for next episode.
Jan 29, 2023 12:44 AM
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I love this anime, but this ep was certified ass meat lmao

2/5
Jan 29, 2023 1:47 AM

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Interesting twist? I know we didn't get too long a look at the end there but evil Misa looks good.

Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei shite Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Kayou II

I just realized that's her on the promo image lol. Lay's on the top left and Avos Dilhevia on the right. 
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Jan 29, 2023 2:40 AM

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Misa!?! Did not see that coming!
Jan 29, 2023 4:06 AM
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[quote=vestaldestroyer message=68489645]Lay 🤝Misa
being Avos Dilhevia
Couple goals am i right🤣
Jan 29, 2023 4:11 AM
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amlg said:
HUH

I was gonna come comment about Misa x Lay as I was watching the episode.

But instead I came here to comment about the Plot Twist, LOL.

___ ___ ___

MISA?

So... somehow she's Gigabaiting everyone by disguising as a regular student that just recently found out she's half spirit



___ ___ ___

And what happened to Lenas (the supposed Mother Spirit that's also suppose to be Misa's Mother?)

And Shin Reglia... I take it the dude died? since basing on Lena at the sword saying she must meet the Spirit King, as it suggests Shin to be the Spirit King.



___ ___ ___

Meanwhile, Avos
continues to brainwash everyone to kill Anos.

Also, how have the "Gods" that's suppose to know everything including telling others Anos is the true Demon Lord, not know about Avos? And didn't do anything to prevent Avos from continuing to brainwash others. Or did Avos somehow able to brainwash the Gods too? huh...

(other thing, in previous episode, the triplet spirits sniffa Misa saying she smelled like Lenas and said they can't reveal who's Misa's father under Spirit King's orders...

)


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Im just as confused bro. Was she Avos all along?? Cause in s1 they made it seem like Avos was Kanon's doing. Now its misa? Im utterly clueless man
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