   -Casually asks to be a Slave with a happy face |
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| Dude getting mad over a cartoon asking another cartoon to become a slave |
| god stop it bro go and mediate somewhere so u can draw a line between anime and real life then u will realise how stupid this question is (then if u are still bothered by it then watch anime actually rather picking screenshots then u will get the context of it) |
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| ラフタリアかわいい！ |
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V1P3R0P said: Dude getting mad over a cartoon asking another cartoon to become a slave NaughtySempai said: god stop it bro go and mediate somewhere so u can draw a line between anime and real life then u will realise how stupid this question is (then if u are still bothered by it then watch anime actually rather picking screenshots then u will get the context of it) Lmao, jokes on you guys i never said that im against it |
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mrzeneli said: Pretty sure this is from season 2, i’m not sure if i remember correctly but i don’t think raphtalia asked her that out of no where in the ln. s2 has really bad writing and anime original episodes i dont really remember but i think you are right, but i made this in S1 as i wanted to ask more people |
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| I haven’t seen S2 yet but I always just thought the whole slave thing was a way of showing how Naofumi’s trust has been completely shattered and can only trust those who are technically slaves. I don’t think the show supports slavery obviously or is even saying that it can be a good thing. It’s a morally wrong thing Naofumi does and we, as the audience, are supposed to want him to get better and all that. The whole slavery thing is a massive character flaw with him he’s gonna have to overcome by the end of the story. Tldr; no, I don’t think Shield Hero supports slavery. It’s a way of showing how Naofumi’s trust is shattered by the trauma he went through. But idk, haven’t seen S2 so maybe in that season they just go “yeah it good lmao.” |
| It's fiction, so no kink shaming, pls. |
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| I don't know, should I support a culture which only exists in cartoon? Because it doesn't matter. |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
|ask on tweeeeteeeeer |
| I have some scalding takes on slavery and it's too early in the day for me to say them |
| Stuff in the streets, Stuff with drip in the sheets |
| Considering how their world works, they more like teammates than slaves. So yes, this anime portrayed them well. |
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| wasn't she asking since it's basically a contract and she would be safer if she accepted? |
 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓿𝓪𝓵𝓾𝓮. 𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵, 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰. |
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ry4nm1k43l said: V1P3R0P said: Dude getting mad over a cartoon asking another cartoon to become a slave i mean you gotta understand that there are some imbeciles out there that will actually try whatever is portrayed on anime . not just anime , every fictional series Not just fictional series. People will do anything on whatever circumstances. Fictions don't have a mystical influence on people's behavior. As far as I know, fiction is just a part of our reality. No one gonna make up their entire identity over a fiction. People cannot turn into a fictional character. People are in constant interaction with everything in the world more or less directly. Don't just assume something has been done solely because it was portrayed in a fiction even if the person was passionated. |
| Dude get some help when Something Like that makes you Mad. you are Like The people that clue themself on The street |
The only thing I’d say is that it feels weird that Raphtalia never seems to have an arc where she tries to reconcile her two experiences being “enslaved” and what the term or institution means in her mind. She’s experienced what we would understand as enslavement in her past as well as what is only really nominal slavery with Naofumi. I guess you could argue her character really just doesn’t care about dredging up the past and is focused on moving forward too though. In terms of the moral and meta implications personally I don’t care. Raphtalia is speaking about slavery from her own perspective. It feels silly to ignore the quote’s context. I have my own views of slavery being abhorrent. I’m not gonna change that because a character who has a positive experience with a very different act than what is practiced in our world (as well as the majority of her own) is into it. To me this just tells us about her character. The worst I could say is that she seems flippant about an act that in-universe we have seen to be cruel and evil. What was a plying to me is that Naofumi (who has a negative view of slavery coming from our world) and Raphtalia (who should at the very least have mixed feelings regarding slavery for reasons already stated) should hate the slave master and that’s never brought up other than maybe some throw away line about him being skeevy. |
| I don't support slavery and I think most of us here understand that. It's interesting how the anime proposes a system of slavery different from the one we understand, where the slave can voluntarily serve his master or not in exchange for a buff of powers and abilities. It looks more like an roleplay. |
   You and the rose are connected. Know the weight of your own life |
ry4nm1k43l said: KryzakamiHrybami said: Not just fictional series. People will do anything on whatever circumstances. Fictions don't have a mystical influence on people's behavior. As far as I know, fiction is just a part of our reality. No one gonna make up their entire identity over a fiction. People cannot turn into a fictional character. People are in constant interaction with everything in the world more or less directly. Don't just assume something has been done solely because it was portrayed in a fiction even if the person was passionated. it wasnt an assumption but im just saying people will just see something done online or in a series they watched and try to reenact the action done or behavior displayed . i just used fictional series as an example because it is more common where i am from but people doing what they see online is very common but me saying this is just my way of saying people watching shield hero and trying the slavery shit is not that far fetched This doesn't work like that. People don't do what happens in fiction because fiction had a certain ability to influence people. People agreed to do things they deem cool or find amusing to reproduce irl. If it wasn't from a fiction, then it would be from something else. The thing is that people would never do something they disagreed with or find immoral upon watching it. And what influence people to consider certain things as moral or logical are the societal background and education of those people. If someone is raised to believe that slavery is a moral thing to do, then obviously it's not the anime that put these ideas in their heads. You need to remember that it's not the fiction that created these people. These people already have twisted views already. This stands true as much as the fact that video games doesn't cause violence. People are in constant interaction with everything in the world. So the path that leaded them to do questionables things say a lot more than the things they watched. |
People give this show so much shit because of the "salve crest" but the reality is: Nobody would give a shit if it was not called "salve crest". The word "slave" is in the name, that's why everyone hates on it. Want proof? Look at all the other shows which have the exact same mechanic in it, nobody gives a shit in those shows because it's called something else, like "familiar crest" or some shit like that. An example off the top of my head from a show I recently re-watched would be the necklace that's put upon the character Inuyasha in Episode 2 of the show Inuyasha. Or the taming in Beast Tamer (Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou sareta Beast Tamer, Saikyoushu no Nekomimi Shoujo to Deau). Or the familiar crest in Vermeil in Gold. They are all essentially the same thing, yet nobody cares. Most importantly though: The "slave crest" is an abysmally executed mechanic storytelling wise because it doesn't do anything other than being used as a lie detector. It should have been called "loyalty crest", that would make much more sense in the context of the story and would have prevented all the nonsensical controversy. For example: In S1 episode 2 the crest activates when Raphtalia doesn't want to kill a bunny but it seems to do nothing expect give a little tickle like those shock toys. It can't be much worse because the entire time when the crest "shocks" her, she is simply listening to and answering to Naofumi's monologue without any acknowledgement of the crest and in the end kills the bunny of her own accord, so she wasn't even forced by the crest. Same happens again later in the same episode in the cave against the dog with two heads but even worse since this time the crest doesn't work properly: Naofumi tells her "Attack" Raphtalia says "Nah", she gets tickled once more Naofumi then tells her "Leave" Raphtalia says "Nah", again but this time the crest is like: "whatever my tickle doesn't do shit so I don't care anymore" and nothing happens. This basically repeats itself every time when the crest is activated. In S2 the green haired girl goes against Naofumi multiple times at the beginning yet she is never shocked The worst punishment is actually received when someone lies to the person who has made the crest: Malty (the bitch princess) basically gets roasted alive during the trial in S1 episode 21 just for lying. So yeah loyalty crest would have been a better name. |
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| the topic of slavery in this show (and anime in general tbh) is very badly portrayed and looking through this thread, people need to be more critical of the media they consume |
Nah bro, Slavery with Raphtalia and Filo might have started as the typical 'master-slave' situation, but as the story progressed, it just became a another name for 'partying up' As you can see in the anime, after anyone who becomes slave to Naofumi or 'parties up' with him, gains more bonuses from him as a part of the contract, as this world runs on game mechanics. So, it isn't really a traditional Slave thing at this point in the anime... |
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