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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- What a first impressions meeting between Shu Bi, Ren Sin and Back Arrow. Though the 1st of many meetings, the fate of crossing paths is inevitable of a Rakuho capsule arrival. A proposal to help Back Arrow cross back "beyond the Wall", that seems like a good plan. For now, he's stuck with Edger Village. A village that houses refugees of broken families in the midst of the war between the Chinese Rekka and Western Lutoh, it paves no favours for Back Arrow who lost his memories, only knowing that he needs to go back whence he came from. It doesn't take long that the Edger Village that houses Back Arrow is soon targeted, and all the Briheights-summoned Bind Warpers start coming out with Conviction, Kill la Kill frenetic style. Still pretty much Nakashima levels of storytelling that could go anywhere. |
KANLen09Jan 16, 2021 11:00 PM
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| Back Arrow has finally some clothes xD Well that world is sure isn't safe, they already tried to attack the village, the whole mecha fight part was pretty good I think, but I wait to see more development for the world and characters |
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| Coming in at 2nd place for worst anime of the season so far; Back Arrow! omg the guy from the rakuho isn't here what should I do master? - destroy the village and kill everyone - roger |
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pint said: Coming in at 2nd place for worst anime of the season so far; Back Arrow! omg the guy from the rakuho isn't here what should I do master? - destroy the village and kill everyone - roger If that's all you took from the episode...for someone with a Lucky Star avatar, you seem like a remarkably unfun and humorless person. 2077 said: this anime has very nice animation and art, also has good ost and the world and setting are pretty interesting too. really a big shame that the story and characters suck so much :/ On the contrary, I think the second episode did a good job at starting to develop the characters by having them interact with each other. Furthermore, things are moving on the story front too, with new elements being introduced and we'll likely get out of the village setting shortly. |
GolbeztheGreatJan 15, 2021 9:24 AM
| I never thought I'd say this about a Kazuki Nakashima anime considering the god gave me Kill la Kill, but this premise and narrative presented 2 episodes in is so goddamn boring and underwhelming. Even BNA while turning out to be disappointing by the end, had a solid first half and an enticing premise with some interesting direction behind it. There were some character interactions to sort of develop the chemistry with the cast but no one really won me over at all enough for me to enjoy them and the story just yet. It's amazing how dry this show just feels overall compared to all of his other works at the start itself, which is rare for someone who's known for his creative or cheesy fun vision. |
| They didn't show what was beneath the ground. Is it some (space) ship or a big ass mech? Kinda seems like the former to me. Edit: Just figured that the next episode is called "Does a Huge Ship Bring Hope?" so i guess it answers my question. Ship probably has capabilities to get them beyond the wall. |
TsarkoJan 15, 2021 11:06 AM
GolbeztheGreat said: pint said: Coming in at 2nd place for worst anime of the season so far; Back Arrow! omg the guy from the rakuho isn't here what should I do master? - destroy the village and kill everyone - roger If that's all you took from the episode...for someone with a Lucky Star avatar, you seem like a remarkably unfun and humorless person. I don't know dude this anime isn't all that great.. |
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animejas said: I never thought I'd say this about a Kazuki Nakashima anime considering the god gave me Kill la Kill, but this premise and narrative presented 2 episodes in is so goddamn boring and underwhelming. Even BNA while turning out to be disappointing by the end, had a solid first half and an enticing premise with some interesting direction behind it. There were some character interactions to sort of develop the chemistry with the cast but no one really won me over at all enough for me to enjoy them and the story just yet. It's amazing how dry this show just feels overall compared to all of his other works at the start itself, which is rare for someone who's known for his creative or cheesy fun vision. That's all subjective, because I wasn't bored at all. Then again, you're comparing an entire first half of another series with...a literal two episodes of BA. That's a rather uneven and unbalanced comparison, don't you think? Honestly, I am willing to bet this exact same script animated by Trigger wouldn't feel "boring" to several of the people making that claim. It's not like the writing of Kill la Kill (or Gurren Lagann), especially at the very start without talking about the big picture, is somehow on a completely different level. It wasn't. I think there's a fun cheesy and charming feel to the script and the visuals of BA, while not as absurdly attractive and "loud" as those of a Trigger show, have their moments. My position is Nakashima is playing with the viewer's expectations a little, so there'll be more surprises down the road, but so far it feels similar to Gurren Lagann's start. |
GolbeztheGreatJan 15, 2021 12:18 PM
| I knew Back Arrow had TTGL vibes. Came to learn it’s the same writer and the director of Geass. Holy shit man this has potential. People judging it off the first episode were stupid. |
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pint said: GolbeztheGreat said: If that's all you took from the episode...for someone with a Lucky Star avatar, you seem like a remarkably unfun and humorless person. I don't know dude this anime isn't all that great.. It’s literally been two episodes.. of a 24 ep show.. TTGL was really boring at the start. |
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| I still think the anime is somewhat underrated, but the problems with it are clear - No character is ever given any focus whatsoever - The editing decisions are bizarre scenes violently switch back and forth, characters enter literally as soon as another finishes their sentence - There needs to be something to get us caring about whats outside the wall, just saying "theres a wall, wanna know whats outside?" isn't enough Action is fun, premise is creative, but we actually need a plot here |
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Marinate1016 said: Might get better later on, we can just hope for the best ¯\_(ツ)_/¯It’s literally been two episodes.. of a 24 ep show.. TTGL was really boring at the start. |
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| Not really impressed so far, but at least the main story and mystery seems like it's starting now. Hopefully it gets much better. It's not bad so far, just really underwhelming. I wonder if this was supposed to be a Trigger anime? Maybe the producers meant to ask them to adapt it but they had too much projects? Because this really feels like a Trigger/ Gainax mecha. It's giving off serious TTGL vibes. |
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| Honestly, this is the definition of mediocrity. The animation almost doesnt move but it has somewhat consistent art with pretty decent CGI. I dont care about any of the characters right now tho, and the story also seems like it just kinda exists. I know its just the second episode but that doesnt mean it shouldnt engage me and make want me to watch more. The only thing that i kinda like, is the world, as its decently interesting. Considering the people on this i expect it to be better after a while, but if for whatever reasson i didnt know the staff for this, i would have most likely have dropped it this episode. |
Senzura said: I still think the anime is somewhat underrated, but the problems with it are clear - No character is ever given any focus whatsoever Debatable, but I guess it's a matter of degrees. For example, I'd say we did get more of a focus on the apparent antagonists this episode. Still, even if we don't get a huge amount every episode, the accumulated amount wouldn't be too bad over time. - The editing decisions are bizarre scenes violently switch back and forth, characters enter literally as soon as another finishes their sentence Kind of inevitable when you have a lot of things going on in the script. Not sure how you'd avoid such editing around that, other than whenever there's simply less content to cover per episode. Which will likely happen at certain points, but not just yet. - There needs to be something to get us caring about whats outside the wall, just saying "theres a wall, wanna know whats outside?" isn't enough Action is fun, premise is creative, but we actually need a plot here I agree the plot needs to develop, because the wall is not enough of a mystery to cover the entire show, but they're already introducing or teasing some additional aspects to the story. |
| Elshas armour looks really cool. It's starting to get interesting. Back could say something else than I want to go outside the wall for once. Not bad but not really something good. |
| Also, the princess reminded me of Nunnally from code geass. |
| The biggest compliment that I can give this anime is that it is easy to watch. It isn’t frustratingly bad, but it also does not require much engagement from the viewer. It is a medicocre show through and through, which isn’t the worst thing in the world. |
| I don't understand, why did the ruler of the small country decide to destroy the village (except for giving an excuse for a fight for the plot) ? |
| With the level of madness set pretty high by the first episode, this one ends up fairly disappointing and boring. It introduced a princess. The other fancy dudes introduced themselves and then quite literally just wandered off.The most interesting and amusing parts of the episode are the quite random minor things it does I suspect without even thinking. Like when you punch the fancy dude, he puffs up like a blowfish and loses all gravity. Why? I have no idea. The village kids also followed up last week's game of "jump off cliffs" with "beat each other in the head with logs." So, sure, you can give a big speech about how deadly the world is, and how you're all just barely surviving, but I think I can point to a few other reasons besides just "the world is dangerous." Then in the final five minutes of the episode, rich dudes decided to wipe out the village to make room for the new railroad or something, so they sent a bandito to fight. How this village has survived at all with apparently daily attacks of giant mechs is a mystery. I also can't help but wonder if any of the women in the show are ever going to be anything but a joke. It's sure looking unlikely so far. |
RayReynolds said: I also can't help but wonder if any of the women in the show are ever going to be anything but a joke. It's sure looking unlikely so far. Oh come on, this sort of statement makes little sense at episode 2 of 24. They'll get better. Especially since the show is also not unwilling to make fun of Arrow despite giving him cool moments. Abderiko said: I don't understand, why did the ruler of the small country decide to destroy the village (except for giving an excuse for a fight for the plot) ? It was a bit arbitrary, but considering they're refugees living in the middle of nowhere... their lives aren't going to be perceived as being worth much. It just shows the government isn't exactly very enlightened nor caring when it comes to such people. |
| Instead of talking about what I don't like about this show, I will talk about what I love in it, Elsha, total waifu, expecting a lot from her in the next 22 episodes. Also, yes, that princess reminds me of Euphemia |
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2077 said: Is it really fair to say the story or characters suck? We're 2 episodes in and we both know this series' creator is known for shows that skyrocket as they progress. These first 2 episodes just felt like a purposefully simple intro.this anime has very nice animation and art, also has good ost and the world and setting are pretty interesting too. really a big shame that the story and characters suck so much :/ |
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| LMAO. The pink girl fighting and bouncing. They are really serious in trying to get rid of the village. |
| Ikki's government alternate counterpart to America. The act of Atlee giving Back Arrow her father's pants means he inherited his role as sheriff? So this was prophesized by Rekka. |
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| I am honestly enjoying the show, that was a good episode. Poor Atlee lmao, the conviction of the briheights she faced so far are all disadvantageous to her. I am assuming Elsha's conviction will be "Just get me out of here". That'll be helpful to cross the wall lmao. |
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| This anime is so bad lmao.. The characters look fugly too. |
| Interesting... So we finally got some worldbuilding in this anime. This 2nd episode is definitely a lot better than the first one and so far, it's pretty okay for me. I just hope that the female main cast aren't a bunch of pushovers throughout the series. This is the second time that Sheriff Atlee got defeated and she didn't even contribute much to kick that Commander Tyrone Duster's ass.  |
Junko_Simp04Jan 18, 2021 3:21 AM
Sore wa chigau yo! - Junko Enoshima, probably |
| Should I watch this? I watched a little of the second episode and it kinda looks like a cheap version of Code Geass. It's the same impression I got when I first started Cross Ange and it became one of my favorites. If it was Sunrise I would have no doubts, but with studio VOLN i think it would let me down like with Ushio and Tora |
anikevin said: Should I watch this? I watched a little of the second episode and it kinda looks like a cheap version of Code Geass. It's the same impression I got when I first started Cross Ange and it became one of my favorites. If it was Sunrise I would have no doubts, but with studio VOLN i think it would let me down like with Ushio and Tora The premise is a lil interesting and unique with the world trapped inside walls with bracelets that can transform them into mechas. Kill la Kill's writer and Code Geass' director are in on this so that's a plus. Animation and CGI-wise, the show isn't too shoddy. I like the character designs tho. If you have time, you can watch until the 3rd-4th episode before you continue or drop it just like I'm doing right now. Unlike 2.43, this show hasn't captivated me to watching till the end but we'll see. |
| Sore wa chigau yo! - Junko Enoshima, probably |
| Not bad, quite amusing episode but the refference to the other popular mecha shows are really obvious which makes it a bit less enjoyable. Well now even Len got a mecha and what did she bring out from underground? A megazord lol? Let's find out in next episode. |
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| Well, i just realized the chinese shaman voiced by Sugita. So thats why his interaction with Back Arrow felt very refreshing. Even though i am still annoyed with Back Arrow personality. But, seriously, how come he could bounce-bounce like that? Anyway, the political issues of those world felt very much not so good. Super nation Lutoh, pressured a tiny independent territory to be like that, and the president himself didn't wanted to dealt with it anymore and simply ordered something ridiculous to his underlings, look so fucked up there, gentleman. I don't like that Lutoh adviser, and the princess looked pretty much a naive one. They both really suited well as the main deal for the series, beside Back Arrow goal to went outside the wall. I just hope Shu found something useful back there. Instead, its just another text to explained the later event: something huge alive beneath their land. Whats that? Not gonna mentioned Elsha, tho. Its good that she found out that metal armband. At least Atlee had a friend to be cared off after so much helplessness she received lately. But the later scene really bugged me a lot. I guess Elsha was the one whose awakening that thing. But, well, need the next episode to confirm it. So, lets see the next episode, then .... |
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| This episode is also really good. To be honest, the art is not very good, but it will not collapse. The rhythm is smooth, and the background that should be explained is displayed in an orderly manner. I have to emphasize that the rhythm of this story is too comfortable, and I haven't had this impression for a long time. Are there realistic corresponding relations among these three countries? One of them is needless to say. lol. And I hope the princess is not a bad person. Plus, let me see how the follow-up story will unfold? Guess the protagonist is the man who built the wall and will destroy the wall in the end. |
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| I guess its time for the villagers to pack up and move beyond the wall as they got nothing else left to stay for with the village being detroyed by multiple attacks and the government wanting to erase everything there. |
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