DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- well the site i was watching this on screwed up the episode listing so i'm sure i missed an episode somewhere :( oh well, it was a decent show. hopefully the sequel will be better tho. |
| By botched,I take it you mean the ending doesn't appear complete and could still continue? |
| The episode you missed was probably "evidence" a recap episode that according to AniDB is ep15, when I watched it it was called ep27 though. |
| this ending seem a bit weird dunno if it can be called an ending |
| The ending was okay but i thought the hole slow motion running into eachothers arms at the end was not needed. Not the best anime I have seen but it was one of the betters ones, i love the hack seires. |
 |
| This definitely isn't my idea of a definitive "ending", but I suppose that's why there are so many sequels, eh? |
 |
| Indeed,.hack//Sign is a prequel to the games (.hack//IMOQ) which is set six months after the events you've just watched. Though .hack//Unison/.hack//GIFT occurs after you the last game @_@ |
| Good ending i'm glad sora got his |
 |
| @.@ and that sets things up for later |
| Dear god that was a bad ending. Just as the show is seemingly building up to an epic ending with the sora monster, instead we suddenly get a "delete zone" from our hacker which brings Tsukasa back to the real world faster than you can say "This is a major letdown." I thought i missed an episode explaining it but it really was just bad i guess. Why didn't they just do that 10 episodes ago to end it right away? Crappy final battle in the game that leaves the viewer questioning whether it was real or the game trying to trick them. Not developed enough post game exiting moments. Bad ending to what would have been a good series, but was still enjoyable. |
| Its not an ending,.hack//Sign is the prequel to the gaming series and all the events did happen. |
Scygoku said: Its not an ending,.hack//Sign is the prequel to the gaming series and all the events did happen. Not an excuse. This was listed as an anime tv series, not a 24 episode tv ad for the games. |
| I agree that the ending was a let down. Don't get me wrong. I'm happy Tsukasa and Subaru meet and stuff, but the ending didn't feel genuine. I felt like they were going for something too generic just to make people want to dish out money for the games and other sequels versus really making an ending to do justice to the otherwise, imo, brilliant anime that .Hack//SIGN is. It felt rushed and OOC from the time Tsukasa makes his speech and on. I always get the sense that the script writer and such were being pushed to do something to make other .Hack creations more marketable. A mistake on their part, clearly. So much potential used for the wrong purpose and unused. But otherwise it concludes an excellent and otherwise genuine anime. |
| i thot tsukasa, mimir and subaru were the 1s playin tht really strong chara |
 |
| Thought the "strong" character was BT, and was confused as why 3 different girls were playing it. So I rewatched that episode, and realised it wasn't. D: |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
DarkBlue said: The episode you missed was probably "evidence" a recap episode that according to AniDB is ep15, when I watched it it was called ep27 though. Ahh yep. That just happened to me. :/ Watched ep 27 realising that its actually episode 15, and my episode 26 was actually episode 27. :/ |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
Setsia said: i thot tsukasa, mimir and subaru were the 1s playin tht really strong chara Yeah same, one of them really did look like the real tsukasa too ._. whats the meaning of this?? I guess .hack//sign remains mysterious to the very end.. Im not gonna lie, even if the ending was the worst thing in the world i still would've loved it. I dunno why but i really really enjoyed this anime, got really attatched ^^; |
 |
| Not a great series, but not bad either. It's something of an oddity. But it still has left an impression on me. It was good to see both Tsukasa and Subaru meet each other outside the game. I wish that the story could have elaborated a little more on the relationship between Tsukasa and Bear after Tsukasa wakes up. I know Bear proposed to take care of her, but that was it. I also wonder how Tsukasa ended up in the hospital in the first place, and then how she ended up in the game world. We can speculate all day, but other than fragments of her memories we just don't know for sure. 7.4 /10 Good, but could have been much better. |
We will never forget those that have fallen for our freedom! |
| Omg what an ending O_o I didn't even realize it had ended... I really came to like this series but for heaven's sake, what's up with the ending?? It's like, letting some non-imporant character (Helba) run of with all the credit and bringing back Tsukasa. If it weren't for the rushed, non-explanatory ending this series would get 8.5/10 or so but now... barely a 7/10 |
| Aura awakens and Skeith is sent after her by Morganna,Tsukasa can leave "The World" thanks to Aura's awakening and she stays with Bear,you hear alittle Bear and Tsukasa in .hack//Unison (an OVA episode). This is a prequel to the .hack//IMOQ games,where Skeith is chasing Aura and your introduced to the new main character Kite. |
| nice anime nice ending. 9/10 |
Please identify this thing. It appeared at the very beginning of it all before Tsukasa woke up and again at the very end of it all when Tsukasa and Subaru meet in real life. Morgana was talking to it for some reason. What does Morgana's conversation with this thing mean? Who is it? What is it? Is it another like Auras father? Is it another like Morgana? Is it AIDA? Is it what played a part in creating AIDA or where it came from originally or is it something else completely? Any and all information about it is much appreciated. Thank you. |
| I am glad I am no9t the only one confused. Thankfully I own the first game , sadly I only own the first game. |
| Well maybe I should play the games...zzz Kind of disappointed. To open ended and to much Deus Ex. A very low 6/10 from me. |
| The strong blonde female character in this episode kind of looks like a character named Gardenia in the first four .hack games. |
 |
| Wow, this show started out so boring. It picked up, but ended up being O.K. |
 |
| Well, this series was interesting. Its structure didn't quite fit any model I'm familiar with, though in retrospect it seems to be a mystery drama. I was probably mistakenly expecting something along the lines of a fantasy action series...but as Tasolth said, yeah, "it's something of an oddity." I'll have to wait a bit to see what I'd rate it. The pacing seemed slow, though, so points will be taken off for that. The main characters, however, are quite distinctive and interesting, except possibly Sora. Even Silver Knight became interesting by the end. And of course, there's Yuki Kajiura's musical backing. As usual, her style is more ambient than the typical soundtrack, though one could say it works well for this series as the main premise is that someone is stuck inside The World. As a result of this style, I think few tunes are memorable, but the feelings themselves are very memorable. There's one last question on my mind though: Who is that lady at the beginning? Is that Morganna's humanoid form, since it's posed opposite to Aura? No, probably not; she's probably the representation of a player since she's wearing a visor...but let's see, she's female, but not BT. Maybe she's Mimiru's player? Murbella said: Scygoku said: Its not an ending,.hack//Sign is the prequel to the gaming series and all the events did happen. Not an excuse. This was listed as an anime tv series, not a 24 episode tv ad for the games. For what it's worth, the games (four of them for PS2) are extremely hard to come by these days as I've heard, but the light novels called .hack//Another Birth are well worth a purchase and read. Based on what I've read about each, I think AB might actually be more interesting, as it also explores the meatspace side of the main character (BlackRose, apparently an expy of Mimiru) and how that and her webspace activities influence each other, eventually even meeting one of her fellow players offline (before the ending at least). It doesn't really mention Sora again, but Sora's plotline technically gets resolved in the .hack//Games, of which Another Birth is a retelling. Lia4ever said: Good ending i'm glad sora got his Never liked him; I guess he kinda redeemed himself halfway at the end before getting Skeith'd. Well hello there phases. I already knew about ye from Another Birth. Well, .hack//Sign seems to feature two (Skeith and net_nomad said: I'm happy Tsukasa and Subaru meet and stuff, but the ending didn't feel genuine. Yeah, it felt rushed somewhat; and we could have had a nice big final battle. LunaSopor said: The strong blonde female character in this episode kind of looks like a character named Gardenia in the first four .hack games. They just happen share a character model, and are otherwise unrelated, according to the dothack Wikia. CenobiteGateway said: Please identify this thing. It appeared at the very beginning of it all before Tsukasa woke up and again at the very end of it all when Tsukasa and Subaru meet in real life. Morgana was talking to it for some reason. What does Morgana's conversation with this thing mean? Who is it? What is it? Is it another like Auras father? Is it another like Morgana? Is it AIDA? Is it what played a part in creating AIDA or where it came from originally or is it something else completely? Any and all information about it is much appreciated. Thank you. I don't know anything about AIDA, but here are my guesses about this. That chamber probably contains the character whose player has been rendered unconscious and whose consciousness has been brought into The World. It could contain: * Tsukasa, being a flashback to the beginning of the first episode * Sora, since he just got trapped * Orca, one of the two key characters to be trapped before the beginning of the .hack//IMOQ (a.k.a. .hack//Games) and its retelling .hack//Another Birth * Kazu, the other such character |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| I seriously thought the 3 characters were Tsukasa, Mimiru and Subaru... but they were Mimiru's sempais? Whut? . _ . 7/10 Odd anime, but I liked it. JUST REALIZED: The episode I watched was actually .hack//Intermezzo. :) |
MirorinMay 17, 2012 3:58 PM
| I also didnt like the ending. I mean,Tsukasa makes the girl wake up,then they go back with the girl to the zone the hacker made,and when the Sora Monster follows them,the hacker deletes everything and Tsukasa returns to the real world meeting Subaru?How? What about the girl who woke up?Which changes did her awakening made in The World? Damn,I hate unclear endings like this one. |
 |
| I really disliked this ending. There are so many things left unfinished and unresolved. Now Sora can't log out, and has become some monster, and apparently the hacker deleted everything in The World - but that wouldn't make sense because then wouldn't Sora die or be put into a coma? And Sora is only a 4th grader in real life. Nothing has been resolved even though Tsukasa can log out, now Sora can't log out. It's the same thing all over again. Who was Aura and how has her awakening changed The World? Who was the hacker? Why did the hacker choose Tsukasa for this entire thing? Helba said that the answer lies within Tsukasa, but we never find out. What does Bear and Crim look like in real life, and why isn't Bear present in the ending? Bear said he was going to be Tsukasa's foster parent. What does Mimiru look like in real life? She said she was going to go to Shimokita with Tsukasa. This ending is just absolutely frustrating. |
ahyui said: I really disliked this ending. There are so many things left unfinished and unresolved. Now Sora can't log out, and has become some monster, and apparently the hacker deleted everything in The World - but that wouldn't make sense because then wouldn't Sora die or be put into a coma? And Sora is only a 4th grader in real life. Nothing has been resolved even though Tsukasa can log out, now Sora can't log out. It's the same thing all over again. Who was Aura and how has her awakening changed The World? Who was the hacker? Why did the hacker choose Tsukasa for this entire thing? Helba said that the answer lies within Tsukasa, but we never find out. What does Bear and Crim look like in real life, and why isn't Bear present in the ending? Bear said he was going to be Tsukasa's foster parent. What does Mimiru look like in real life? She said she was going to go to Shimokita with Tsukasa. This ending is just absolutely frustrating. 1. They show Mimiru in the anime but only once and it's earlier in the show.  <-her2. This is the BEGINNING of an extremely long story, so these questions COULD NOT BE ANSWERED or they'd end the entire franchise. Basically, your questions aren't bad - but they are misguided. The entire franchise was planned ahead (at least most of it) along with the story and answers to your questions, so to find out everything you have to play the games and watch the subsequent anime series that were released. Take it as a book for example - .hack//sign is just volume 1 of about 20 and all 20 are following the same exact story thread, so to get answers you have to continue going through it. This is like a "season 1" of the .hack story which extends into manga, other .hack series, and of course the video games - all of which encompass the same one story. .hack//sign is meant to be an INTRODUCTION into the setting, situation, and some important characters and information for the REST of the story. It can be enjoyed fine on it's own, but yeah the ending will be a "let down" if you don't understand it's just the beginning. It'd be like playing Xenosaga and complaining you got no answers at the end, of course you don't, it's the first game in a long trilogy entirely about one story. If you REALLY want spoilers, there's a wiki with a full timeline of the entire story's main events from beginning to end in chronological order along with typical wiki info that would answer all your questions if you looked through it. |
TallonKarrde23Nov 20, 2012 7:15 PM
 |
Tasolth said: Not a great series, but not bad either. It's something of an oddity. But it still has left an impression on me. It was good to see both Tsukasa and Subaru meet each other outside the game. I wish that the story could have elaborated a little more on the relationship between Tsukasa and Bear after Tsukasa wakes up. I know Bear proposed to take care of her, but that was it. I also wonder how Tsukasa ended up in the hospital in the first place, and then how she ended up in the game world. We can speculate all day, but other than fragments of her memories we just don't know for sure. 7.4 /10 Good, but could have been much better. Agree, the irl relationships could have been a little more elaborated. This episode list is a mess, i hate when that happens :< |
 |
| Tsukasa was able to return to reality/wake up from the coma because Helba deleted the field they were all on? Is Aura's awakening a prerequisite for Tsukasa to return to reality? So many mysteries goddamnit. Anyone know? My theory is: I'm wondering if Aura's awakening was a prerequisite for Tsukasa to return to reality. Helba deleted the field they were on which probably explains how both Tsukasa and Sora were able to return. I'm guessing that because the field was deleted, Morganna, a.k.a "The World," lost contact with them and was not able to keep a hold onto Tsukasa, which I think explains how she was forcefully ejected from the game, thus sending her mind back to reality. According to http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/Tsukasa : Realizing that Tsukasa wanted nothing more than to remain in The World forever, Morganna sent her servant Macha to lure him into a trap. Acting as a friendly PC, Macha took Tsukasa to the bottom of a dungeon, where a trap set by Morganna data drained him, trapping his mind inside of The World itself. To further trap him, Morganna altered his memories, making him believe he was a male in reality, as well as causing him to focus on the memories of his father. So the reason why he wasn't able to logout was because his mind (since the brain has electrical currents) was transferred into The World because of Morganna's data drain. I don't know anything else, but according to what they were saying about the Key Of The Twilight, Tsukasa could only return when Aura awakens. I don't know the explanation behind that, but if you just accept that, it all adds up quite nicely. Any more thoughts? |
zetsu_shorenApr 10, 2014 5:53 AM
| First off Sora turned into SKEITH but that was about as abrupt of an ending as I've ever seen. No battle just poof. For that I'll keep the score at 4/10 but I still love .hack. EDIT: On second thought, HOLY SHIT I forgot who Sora really is!!! For those who never played either PS2 series I can't say... |
WolfWood37Jun 12, 2014 11:57 PM
 |
| Really, that was it? I could have understood if this was continued in another entry, but it's a huge let down if I have to go play a game to get proper closure on this chapter. What's more, it's not even certain if Tsukasa and Subaru really met or if that was a vision they saw while in The World. And what was with the animation in the real world? It looked so rubbery and bizarre. I'll probably just look up the specifics online, but it's still underwhelming that they decided to do this. Especially since I was really immersed into the events unfolding up until that point. Well botched ending aside, this has been a very...unique experience. Initially the slow pace was off putting and made it hard to follow, but around the halfway point it started to really grab my interests. There was something fascinating about its oddity and the awkwardness had a certain charm to it. I ended up being drawn into The World and would like to check out the other .hack entries later on. What started out as a one time thing changed into what I think will turn into a one of a kind experience to continue enjoying. 6.5/10, though I'm leaning more towards a 6 due to the pace and dissatisfying conclusion. Otherwise I'm glad I finally got around to this and have cleared another one of those older anime that I've known about since forever. |
 |
| So, the ep where tsukasa & subaru meet in real life was the ending episode? It was my ep 25. Kinda disappointing ending if it was. My ep 26 shows mimiru as a little girl and her mentor in the game. Was this a filler? |
CarrotCakesNov 1, 2015 12:09 PM
 |
| Slow placed and very abrupt ending. Characters and stories weren't that fleshed out. Needless to say, this wouldn't get a very high rating from me. 4/10 |
| Gotta say I loved this series, loved it as a kid and love it now that Im older. Nostalgia prob bumped up the score a bit, but I didnt give it a ten because even I, someone wearing nostalgia colored glasses, was annoyed with how slow this series was. That being said, I love the characters, love the atmosphere (despite it being real slow sometimes), and love LOVE the music (Gonna buy myself the soundtracks to this anime forsure). I give it a 9/10. I actually own the first game to this but never played it. Im definitly going down the .hack rabbit hole now and want to know everything about this franchise. Another thing I loved that this series ended up being a shoujo-ai. my little gay heart is happy.....ok nvm 10/10. lol. |
| It was a decent series. Interesting to see skeith at the end :D . Played the first two games so get a lot of the backstory but it has been awhile. I'll give it a 7/10 for the deeper concepts on how abuse can mentally damage someone into wanting to escape by any means necessary. It had some awesome touching moments as well. Overall I give it a 7/10 for nostalgia and deeper concepts touched well. |
| [url=http://myanimelist.net/animelist/QcK_Dagger_HeaT&sclick=1][IMG] |
| About the episode At last cocky Sora got punished, did he died or just got into coma? I may have an idea because I read somethings about ending. I wonder what was that thing the old lady was talking at the end. The ending gave us a lot of questions and almost none answers, well //SIGN is just a introduction into a big .hack franchise, I look forward to explore it more. About the series .hack//SIGN was very slow paced, it's nothing bad, but the rushed last episode really hurt. The second half definitely had better pacing than the first half. The open ending didn't seem to bother me as much as other people - it was a thing I expected, as I knew //SIGN was introduction to .hack franchise. The World looks like an interesting MMORPG, the locations were beautiful, characters designs were pretty generic; I was a little bothered with those colored tattoos - I have never once used tattoo or some sign or scar on body option in any MMO I played. We weren't presented with much background of the The World world. I look forward to how it's played, at first I though it's VR but it looks like they were using mouse and keyboard or controller, and I want to know how they see the game, in 3rd person or in 1st person. Music was awesome, as expected from Kajiura Yuki. Opening was really hypnotic, I loved it. Ending was really good. Art and animation were definitely a weaker side of the show. All the characters were likeable, Bear was definitely my favorite one, especially after his offer to Tsukasa in episode 25. Story was interesting, thought a little hard to follow because I always had a feeling like I missed something, at the end I haven't had this feeling anymore, maybe I was looking too deep? Overall .hack///SIGN was an interesting anime, time definitely well spent. |
WitheredRoseMay 15, 2019 7:25 AM
| @WitheredRose "SIGN is just a introduction into a big .hack franchise" While it's technically true, this series is simply a prologue to the original 4-parts game on PS2 (and its epilogue thanks to the 2nd SIGN OAV). Therefore, you wouldn't get closure on the characters nor the "Morgana" problem (Morgana being the game system's AI - the Voice you hear through the series - serving as the "nanny"/incubator for the "child AI" Aura) with other parts of the first multimedia project (except for an untranslated novel with Tsubasa & Subaru), none with the later projects (the franchise being made of two big multimedia projects and a less cohesive last one) If you don't intend to go through the 4 games episodes, an effective novelization of the game exists. And the games information library (things you collect while playing) is available online to cement your understanding of everything around The World and what happened for SIGN to occur. (paralleling the games, there are 4 OAVs called Liminality that show the IRL side of the Morgana incident). Also, yes: the kid, Sora, fell into a coma like many people will in the subsequent months, he will be saved with everyone thanks to the .hackers (⇒game). What happened to him is named "Data Drain" by the next heroes, it's ± what happened to Tsukasa (who got the "astral roaming in the game" bonus), his victims like Ginkan and all the later comatose peoples. Septembre 8, 2019 @Julian86Arg Because what you watched wasn't the final episode of the TV show. The two "last" episodes of SIGN are OAVs (filed separately on the website btw). They aren't set at the time of the series, obviously. For .hack//UNISON, it's easy to tell by the épisode itself: right from the start, they're talking about the last ennemy/bug to erase and Orca is well. Then you have the characters literaly partying to celebrate the resolution of the problem. And you have a partial conversation about Tsukasa's readjustment to life, showing a few months at least have passed. And then? You got the more developed Aura and the cured Sora. Since you have played the game, you could have easily noticed that UNISON was playing the role of an epilogue for the saga "SIGN-Kite". |
Rei_IIISep 8, 2019 6:07 AM
Rei366 said: @WitheredRose "SIGN is just a introduction into a big .hack franchise" While it's technically true, this series is simply a prologue to the original 4-parts game on PS2 (and its epilogue thanks to the 2nd SIGN OAV). Therefore, you wouldn't get closure on the characters nor the "Morgana" problem (Morgana being the game system's AI - the Voice you hear through the series - serving as the "nanny"/incubator for the "child AI" Aura) with other parts of the first multimedia project (except for an untranslated novel with Tsubasa & Subaru), none with the later projects (the franchise being made of two big multimedia projects and a less cohesive last one) If you don't intend to go through the 4 games episodes, an effective novelization of the game exists. And the games information library (things you collect while playing) is available online to cement your understanding of everything around The World and what happened for SIGN to occur. (paralleling the games, there are 4 OAVs called Liminality that show the IRL side of the Morgana incident). Also, yes: the kid, Sora, fell into a coma like many people will in the subsequent months, he will be saved with everyone thanks to the .hackers (⇒game). What happened to him is named "Data Drain" by the next heroes, it's ± what happened to Tsukasa (who got the "astral roaming in the game" bonus), his victims like Ginkan and all the later comatose peoples. Thank you for this information, I appreciate it very much. |
| Well, this ending left me unsatisfied. And generally speaking, the appeal of this anime left me unsatisfied. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| .hack//SIGN was one of my first media from .hack franchise along with .hack//Tasogare no Udewa Densetsu, both more than 10 years ago. Recently I bought .hack//GU on Steam but I was noticing a lot of references of the previous .hack. So I decided to go back and finish .hack//SIGN and the others. Yes, this ending feels weird but it excites me to know more about through the franchise which I really love. I'll go find the answers and enjoy the other .hack as well! I love the story and the characters, the music and the setting. It's not a 10 just because of tecnical issues like animation and pacing. The pacing doesn't really bores me but I think it could be a lot better. 9/10 |
 |
More topics from this board
» How to watch anime onlyYotsugi_Ononoki - Mar 11 |
9 |
by bck108
»»
Mar 13, 10:28 PM |
|
Poll: » .hack//SIGN Episode 18 Discussionjacobpaige - Mar 29, 2008 |
24 |
by Leonyx42
»»
Mar 3, 9:11 PM |
|
Poll: » .hack//SIGN Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 )jacobpaige - Mar 29, 2008 |
53 |
by natsukashiianime
»»
Feb 6, 12:22 AM |
|
Poll: » .hack//SIGN Episode 7 DiscussionCyanideKoolaid - Jan 24, 2009 |
22 |
by Naomi_misora23
»»
Nov 19, 2024 11:16 AM |
|
Poll: » .hack//SIGN Episode 6 DiscussionCyanideKoolaid - Jan 23, 2009 |
16 |
by Naomi_misora23
»»
Nov 18, 2024 10:29 PM |