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Nov 6, 2019 5:22 AM
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Holy shit, I was not expecting to see Hanako bow down like that. She's got guts though. No wonder her transformation scared Joana.

Looks like we also got a glimpse more of Joana's past.
Nov 6, 2019 7:23 AM
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I don't think this backstory deserve the whole episode, I'd rather see Mao fight with Animal Mask very soon.
Nov 6, 2019 7:30 AM
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That was one long flashback episode.

Sometimes I really don't like how they treat Camilla in this series.
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Nov 6, 2019 7:34 AM
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Episode about side characters, not really the best yet... it was good though.
I think Rose vs Carmilla could have been better and Joanna is really annoying.
I wanted to see more of Genzou and Shigure, probably for the next time.
Nov 6, 2019 7:45 AM
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I wanted to see Hanako's transformation.

Not a bad episode.

Nov 6, 2019 7:59 AM
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That ep wasn't as good as the previous ones but it was nice
Interesting flashbacks
Nov 6, 2019 8:04 AM
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Unpopular opinion: The show is actually funnier/better when the MC isn't in the episode, this was the first episode I genuinely found funny and Lol'd, on to Shinchou Yuusha for the day. I love Wednesdays.
Nov 6, 2019 8:52 AM
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BORING! Was expecting more of Genzo and his squad's wacky mischief!
And wanted MAO to totally find and have a fist-to-fist with Genzo from the get go!

So basically blah-blah evil queen summons Demon Hero just to have a go at her rival who she has an inferiority complex with! What a bore! Just give us more Genzo and co adventures!
Superns18 said:
Unpopular opinion: The show is actually funnier/better when the MC isn't in the episode, this was the first episode I genuinely found funny and Lol'd, on to Shinchou Yuusha for the day. I love Wednesdays.


That's definitely what an generic isekai loving weeb would say, unpopular opinion indeed!
Nov 6, 2019 9:03 AM
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The episode was BORING
Nov 6, 2019 9:11 AM

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Unlike many people here, I really enjoyed that episode, it deepened the bond between Hanako and Carmilla (and it made me love her even more)

Nov 6, 2019 9:18 AM
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Carmilla always been a loser lol good thing Haako doesn't care about that at all, that's two episode without a german suplex
Nov 6, 2019 11:27 AM

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Nov 6, 2019 12:57 PM

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So a flashback episode, to see the history of Hanako and Joanna. Hanako's transformation is something I would have love to see. I wonder how fearsome she looks as a dragon.

I get that camilla is useless, but she's being bullied too much :(
Nov 6, 2019 2:08 PM

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This was actually a really refreshing episode

I've come to like the side characters a lot more now
Nov 6, 2019 2:37 PM

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Loved this week's episode. The backstory was really fleshed out and showed the bond between Hanako and Camilla as well as Joanna's rivalry towards Hanako. Also liked the quick facts on the three classes of vampires and the status of Carmilla and Rose.
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Nov 6, 2019 5:04 PM

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Carmilla is as idiot as Darkness in Konosuba... XD

Nov 6, 2019 5:07 PM

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Superns18 said:
Unpopular opinion: The show is actually funnier/better when the MC isn't in the episode, this was the first episode I genuinely found funny and Lol'd, on to Shinchou Yuusha for the day. I love Wednesdays.


I love Wednesdays for the same reason, it's the funny day of the season. XD
Nov 6, 2019 5:19 PM

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This episode was great, perhaps the best episode so far. Quite a bit more serious than the other episodes and full of cute lolis! The backstory behind Hanako and her (one-sided) rival Joanna. I loved watching their interactions together and I hope to see more of a focus on them in the future episodes.
Nov 6, 2019 5:39 PM

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Genzo shoveling dirt in Carmillas face was absolutely hilarious
Nov 6, 2019 5:52 PM

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I love Carmilla and I am glad we got some backstory for her. Great episode.

Side note: The fight was actually really well animated.
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Nov 6, 2019 7:22 PM

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Too bad my man Genzo wasn't that much in the episode, but I love Lindabulea nonetheless. So the backstory was pretty fire for me, but still I missed Genzo, I can't get enough of those German suplex.

Can't wait for him to recognize Mao has been summoned.

That new lady cliffhanger, hmm!
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Nov 6, 2019 8:23 PM

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That was a pretty long and tbh uninteresting backstory. Got basically nothing of Joana's past, just that she has this annoying 'rival' and how she "protected" Camilla.

MAO seems to take the serious route, let's see how this is going to turn out. I wanna see Genzo's reaction

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Nov 6, 2019 9:51 PM

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ok Carmilla is winning me over as a character especially after this episode lol

funny how the real life MAO went to the UK for RevPro (and became a tag champion) pretty much at the same time as this MAO was summoned
Nov 6, 2019 11:55 PM

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Superns18 said:
Unpopular opinion: The show is actually funnier/better when the MC isn't in the episode, this was the first episode I genuinely found funny and Lol'd, on to Shinchou Yuusha for the day. I love Wednesdays.


I love Wednesdays for the same reason, it's the funny day of the season. XD


Hell yea, I got 3 hours of anime on wednesdays and Saturdays
Nov 6, 2019 11:55 PM

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BORING! Was expecting more of Genzo and his squad's wacky mischief!
And wanted MAO to totally find and have a fist-to-fist with Genzo from the get go!

So basically blah-blah evil queen summons Demon Hero just to have a go at her rival who she has an inferiority complex with! What a bore! Just give us more Genzo and co adventures!
Superns18 said:
Unpopular opinion: The show is actually funnier/better when the MC isn't in the episode, this was the first episode I genuinely found funny and Lol'd, on to Shinchou Yuusha for the day. I love Wednesdays.


That's definitely what an generic isekai loving weeb would say, unpopular opinion indeed!


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Nov 7, 2019 1:09 AM

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This episode is funny in a different way from the previous ones, different but welcome.
Genzo shovelling dirt in Carmillas face justified his absence lol.
Nov 7, 2019 1:24 AM

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This episode made me love & respect Hanako! Already loved her chara design & adorably silly behavior but I loved seeing this serious & well mannered side of her more. Didn't expect her to be asked to bow which felt surprising but loved how she did so without hesitation. The later "revenge" was well presented with an elegant moon backdrop that made it feel tense and fierce! Understanding her love for Carmilla was so heartwarming.

Am personally glad this episode allowed for the flashbacks to last the full episode and explain the relationship between other royal families. Was not aware they were this civilized. Within most other media the "ebil" or powerful leagues tend to be excluded from contact with others. Seeing their younger self was an adorable bonus!
Nov 7, 2019 2:42 AM

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Well nice flashback of the glutton loli and the useless vampire. Hanako taking revenge for Carmila was great and lol Genzo shoving dirt on her was funny.
Nov 7, 2019 2:51 AM
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The Carmilla parts at the end was soooo cute, thanks to the animation. And Genzo even used english xD ("Get out")
Nov 7, 2019 3:28 AM

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Sometimes I really don't like how they treat Camilla in this series.

Same. She's the butt monkey way too often and as useless as they try to make her out to be, I'd really like it if they showed her doing more. After all, she could take on Genzo for a bit.

Would've liked to see Hanako's dragon form as well, though seeing Joanna and Rose's reactions to it was entertaining and effective as well. When are we going to see Hanako actually fighting, without cutting away from the animation (and budget, lol) intensive bits? "Eats all the damn time" is about as funny now as Genzo shouting at people and beating them up.

In any case, this flashback/backstory episode was much better than the previous one.
Nov 7, 2019 4:10 AM

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i really enjoyed this series!!!

very very good anime ..
Nov 7, 2019 5:29 AM

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MAO, summoned as the Demon King. FINALLY, he gets another chance to fight Animal Mask Genzo. I'd swear those royalty names are as long AF.

So, the demon princess Joanna has a grudge with the dragon princess Hanako from young, being carefree but powerful vs. hardworking but not as powerful. The Carmilla we know now was and is still useless and a weak loser, but back before all that, she's still the same. And Hanako won't back her down against long-time foes, choosing loyalty over power.

Certainly did not expect Hanako to become a total demon to ravage Joanna and her servant, giving them a total nightmare. That's when MAO's insertion made it all the way better for someone to take the rap.

After so long and I feel that Carmilla is worse than Aqua...

What an intriguing episode...one of those slow-burner ones as a setup.
Nov 7, 2019 6:44 AM

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Hanako and Carmilla's bond is really something. Looks like Hanako really cares for Carmilla, we also got a glimpse of Joanna's fast. An interesting episode, not as funny as the others but more on the touching side.
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Nov 7, 2019 8:18 AM
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Joanna Joannascore Adorian Uljika and LaFafnir Gildomela Grid LindaBulea.......wtta long name that these two loli bitches have.
Nov 7, 2019 8:21 AM

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first episode without german suplexes
Nov 7, 2019 9:59 AM

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I didn't expect episode about those two to be so fun. I'm srtarting to like that useless vampire.
Nov 7, 2019 5:03 PM

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Every scene when genzo isn’t suplexing someone or petting an animal is a waste of budget
Nov 7, 2019 9:40 PM

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Most boring backstory episode i've seen in a while.....Thanks?
Nov 7, 2019 11:10 PM

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That was a long ass flashback.

Honestly, I was expecting for an episode focused on MAO looking for Genzo or something similar but I guess this backstory episode wasn't really that bad. If anything, it made me love Carmilla even more now.
Nov 8, 2019 6:15 PM

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Nice to see less Genzou the MC (hope it continues!), the comedy with him finding animals cute and wanting to pet them was slightly funny in the first episode's but got old fast, now he's just seriously annoying to watch, here's hoping for more Hanako and let Genzou be turned into a side character with very little screen time!
Nov 8, 2019 8:59 PM

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Genzo is the one who asked to go on quest ? This is illegal !

This episode is all about flashback of Hanako and Carmilla (that explain on this episode's OP, those two who look at the camera). Don't ever messed up with this loli dragon, once she got mad, no mercy for you.

The interesting part is, both Joanna and MAO actually has same problem with their enemy, so MAO always beatem up by Genzo, while Joanna always beaten up by Hanako
Nov 9, 2019 12:31 AM

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And i thought this episode is all about Animal Mask vs MAO but it was about the past inseparable relationship between Lindabrea & Carmilla and Joannascore Adorian Uljika, Joanna's obsession for Lindabrea!
4/5.


Nov 9, 2019 5:28 AM
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Every scene when genzo isn’t suplexing someone or petting an animal is a waste of budget


Every scene with genzo is a waste of the budget,
seriosly they should get rid of this animal-lover annoying MC so the show will be much better
MAO will be a better option as a main-character.
Nov 9, 2019 5:33 AM
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Unpopular opinion: The show is actually funnier/better when the MC isn't in the episode, this was the first episode I genuinely found funny and Lol'd, on to Shinchou Yuusha for the day. I love Wednesdays.


you are right , this show become annoying everytime the MC appear .
they should just focus on the good character like Carmilla , Hanako, shigure , and Mao instead
Nov 9, 2019 6:24 AM

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We got a serious episode with Hanako and Carmilla's backstory, Loved to see how serious Hanako actually is, she was show only as silly and hungry girl but he does respect her lineage and will protect Carmilla from the shadows against anyone.

Poor Carmilla is looked down by everyone, even she accepts herself as worthless but Hanako loves her nonetheless.
Nov 9, 2019 8:39 PM
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I admit that knowing the past of Hanako and Carmilla was something interesting but it was very ramdom, especially since at first it was seen that MAO would go to the hunt Genzo, but I say it because we knew Johanna and Rose better, the villains of this anime.
Johanna seems to feel a great recent feeling towards Hanako, the vampire loli could not stand for Hanako to stand out more than her, but she managed to see a defect in Hanako, her servant Carmilla who is a minor vampire and Johanna uses this and challenges Hanako, the sad thing is that Carmilla receives a humiliating defeat, but in return Hanako takes revenge and shows Johanna and Rose her frightening dragon form.

In the end it was entertaining to see how the relationship between master and servant was formed and maintained, since it is clear that Carmilla is useless.

On the other hand we see a more excited MAO now that he knows that Animal Mask is in these lands, I need to see the encounter between Genzo and MAO, I can't stand the expectation.
Nov 10, 2019 8:37 AM
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This is the best episode so far , the flashback was great . finally more Hanako and Carmella and less genzo .
they should focus on the side characters more than they focus on some annoying guy petting random animals
Nov 11, 2019 2:38 AM

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Superns18 said:
Unpopular opinion: The show is actually funnier/better when the MC isn't in the episode, this was the first episode I genuinely found funny and Lol'd, on to Shinchou Yuusha for the day. I love Wednesdays.


you are right , this show become annoying everytime the MC appear .
they should just focus on the good character like Carmilla , Hanako, shigure , and Mao instead


The loli princesses are the best part of the show
Nov 11, 2019 2:57 PM

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This episode was touching, admittedly in a twisted way. But I do genuinely love Carmilla :D

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I don't remember is this happened in the manga, but I approve!

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