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Jul 22, 2019 7:22 AM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Another deadly assignment for Hank...honestly, I wonder if this guy ever gets a break. Pretty tense episode as usual. Schaal's personality is getting kinda annoying to watch now imo. She needs to take more action rather than expressing herself. I gotta give Hank some credit for fighting the good fight. Seems this show is still following a monster of the week format storytelling. I hope the story improves. These past three episodes feels repetitive. |
Stark700Jul 22, 2019 8:24 AM
Jul 22, 2019 8:46 AM
#2
This time they had to deal with Behemoth. I actually feel sorry for these Incarnates. I wonder what Cain's ability is. He made that women eat the other. |
Jul 22, 2019 9:02 AM
#3
Jul 22, 2019 9:29 AM
#4
RIP Behemoth, probably the only Incarnate who truly didn't do anything wrong after going insane. At least he got his final wish before dying. I'm also very thankful with how the adaptation changed the scene where Hank kills Behemoth. In the manga, Behemoth sees the sea and dies, and then Hank realizes of his goal and gets angsty because he didn't get what Artie wanted before it was too late. Here in the anime, Hank already realized what Behemoth was trying to do from the begining, so that is why he blow up the rocks that were blocking the views to the sea, so his former comrade could die in peace. I approve this as a positive change since, considering Artie's characterization as a silent man of few words, the manga made Hank look like a fool by making him forgot the only meaningful conversation he had with the most introverted of his subordinates. In the anime, since Hank didn't forget about that, he instead comes as a caring leader who truly remembered his subordinates and his wishes till the end. Next episode (or maybe the one after that) is when the series will finally develop its main plot. Meanwhile, Gargoyle will be the next enemy to defeat. |
Jul 22, 2019 9:59 AM
#5
This was a really nice episode. There was much blood and a bit gore in this episode. The bahemoth guts were spilling out from its belly and he still kept going just to see the sea once in his life. A gd story indeed, rest in peace Artie. |
Jul 22, 2019 10:00 AM
#6
So this time, Hank and Liza must face the Behemoth (one of his comrades YET AGAIN), making it No.3 monster of the week. I understand this feels a lot repetitive, but until Cain Madhouse comes again, this sub-plot will never go on and develop into something that's worth the payoff. Which finally comes into view in post-credits. Artie a.k.a Behemoth, the silent lone wolf of Hank's team. And yet, Nancy Schaals sees the positive in the Incarnate, even though his out-of-control self is out of whack. RIP to the one who desires the ocean, and nothing more if his wish is just that. @Illyricus thanks for making that point out, the manga seems like the pacing was frenetic, and the anime adaptation made some changes which was refined IMO for the better. |
Jul 22, 2019 10:04 AM
#7
Fairly nice self-contained episodic story, I wouldn't mind if this became the normal plot structure. We were immediately introduced to an Incarnate who drew in the past, then he later became a giant monster. It was refreshing to see a passive incarnate, he just wanted to reach the ocean, and Hank let him before finishing him off. Good episode, but the gradual decline in art quality is still a concern. |
Jul 22, 2019 10:19 AM
#8
Cain reminded me of Kibutsuji Muzan from Kimetsu no Yaiba :O |
Jul 22, 2019 10:36 AM
#9
Another episode in which Hank kills an innocent comrade. He just wanted to see the see. The main issue appeared it will break a damned bridge. Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. The girl is the only one that makes some sense unless until the ending where here actions like usual make absolutely no sense. Hank and the blonde bitch need to be tortured until they beg for death. @Rickydory123 Muzan is just a coward. |
Jul 22, 2019 10:52 AM
#10
nightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. |
Jul 22, 2019 11:04 AM
#11
So many death flags for the iron bridge but it still stands while Behemoth fell. Another decent episode. |
Jul 22, 2019 11:06 AM
#12
There is still humanity in the ... excellent chapter |
Jul 22, 2019 11:34 AM
#13
A bridge that connects the north and south huh truly an excellent symbol of the peace that the incarnates fought so hard for. Behemoth kinda looks like a land based shark. Despite the ferocity of its advance its quite surprising that no one was actually hurt at all. Too bad that Liza's carefully crafted plan was blown out of the water thanks to the Bridge owner's idiotic plan. Even though Hank's new plan was a success it was still sad seeing Behemoth continue his advance despite his wounds. The realization of what Behemoth wanted to see as well as seeing Schaal and Hank's desperate attempts to stop him sure combined to make those last scenes quite emotional. An excellent ep that had the perfect balance of action, story and tension. Feels like Schaa's bond with Hank is starting to get stronger as a result of the increased understanding between them. Meanwhile seems the hunt for Cain finally begins. |
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Jul 22, 2019 11:37 AM
#14
Pretty good episode. I feel bad for Hank that he has to do these things because of Cain. Hoping to see a battle between the two. Schaal, on the other hand, should actually do something rather than just saying words...imo |
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Jul 22, 2019 12:33 PM
#15
Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Kimurah said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soonnightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. |
Jul 22, 2019 1:06 PM
#16
Oh poor Arthur, I am glad he got to fulfill his wish in the end and was able to watch over the sea. It made me think of Shingeki no Kyojin's Armin of course. Also that ending gave me the creeps. Cain (hence, the name) is some sort of vampire and since Hank is a werewolf I guess the main battle will be one between vampires and werewolves. I am not sure if I like this, but I enjoy this series al lot up to now nevertheless. |
Jul 22, 2019 1:29 PM
#17
I really like this show so far. That Cain guy really reminds me of Dio from JoJo. |
Jul 22, 2019 1:51 PM
#18
Welp that's it for Behemoth, at least he got his wish................ ya know when Hanks says that the war isn't over, he mayve right cu'z Cain is still in the business of making new Incarnates. What's Cain's ability? well given that he just bite one of them whore's neck and thus turning it into a cannibalistic monster, I'd say he's a vampire. |
Jul 22, 2019 3:18 PM
#19
Poor Behemoth, he didn't even kill anyone and got the most brutal death so far. Something ironic considering what Lyza said before: "The best we can do is make sure he doesn't suffer in his final moments". Well, at least he got his wish. That scene after the ED, Cain sure has interesting powers. |
Jul 22, 2019 3:50 PM
#20
Behemoth got his wish granted, eventho his guts were exposed by the explosions, he had somewhat of a peaceful end of his life after his wish was fulfilled. That post credit scene though, I don't remember if it was properly said/shown in the opening episode, but feel like that Cain would be a Vampire, only reason I can find for the girl eating up the other girl at the end. If Cain really is a vampire, that's gonna cause some trouble Hopefully with Cain in the picture again now, maybe we will get a main plot now instead of 1 beast a week. |
Jul 22, 2019 4:28 PM
#21
nightcrawlercyp said: Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Kimurah said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soonnightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 1. He is almost nuts and probably as the time passes, he will be more nuts. It is the same thing as it was with Will/Dragon. 2. It is a symbol, both sides working on a project together for the benefit of both. It's like the Kesong area on the Korean border, where South Korea manages/brings technology and employs North Koreans. 3. The guy on the train literally explained the importance of the bridge. |
Jul 22, 2019 6:18 PM
#22
Fairly decent episode, we’ll see where it goes from here. |
Jul 22, 2019 6:22 PM
#23
nightcrawlercyp said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soon 1) Nice englando. Second, he only had one thing on his mind, to see the ocean for the very first time, no matter what. The definition of dementia is: a chronic or persistent disorder of the mental processes caused by brain disease or injury and marked by memory disorders, personality changes, and impaired reasoning. 2) Bridges connects places, without them or even roads, getting goods, medicines and other 1st hand supplies is almost impossible, specially in that era that it's meant to be around the XIX century. 3) The guy in the train literally says that, it was a joint work between the two factions that were previously at war 4) ROFL you sound like some sort of hipster anarchist. 5) Yeah, there's this thing called army in real life, I don't know if you ever heard of that. And your edgy pessimistic view makes me think you're not older than 12. |
KimurahJul 22, 2019 6:31 PM
Jul 22, 2019 6:31 PM
#24
Jul 22, 2019 6:46 PM
#25
The first Incarnate who actually did not turn mad and just wished to see the ocean before he gave up on his life. Another conclusion for another episode, I'm still wondering if Schall is gonna get anymore useful 'till the end lul The post-credits scene was a bit weird, with the sort of zombie turning scene. |
Jul 22, 2019 6:55 PM
#26
Best episode so far to me |
Jul 22, 2019 7:35 PM
#27
I liked this episode a lot better than last week's. It's probably the best so far. This episode brings an important issue into focus, mainly the higher valuation given to property (the bridge) over life (Behemoth), while retaining complexity (eg., the great symbolic value the bridge is imbued with). I found Schaal to be the highlight of this episode. I never thought Civil War soldiers fighting a dinosaur would be something I wanted to see, but here we are I love Liza. But every time I see her and that deliciously low cut uniform I can't help but think "you are boobs" |
Jul 22, 2019 8:22 PM
#28
Rest in peace Arthur Allston, you will be dearly missed. I'm glad you got to see the sea, even though by glimpse! And fuck you Hank. Cain is like a vampire or something, he's the one Hank should kill and not the others. He should've at least tried to save them at any cost. |
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Jul 22, 2019 8:26 PM
#29
How'd Shaal even get permission to go and visit Behemoth when he was captured? |
Jul 22, 2019 8:41 PM
#30
People keep saying Hank is killing innocent people who did nothing wrong. What a stupid way to view things, these were human beings at one time, can you imagine being forced to live out your lives like that. All the while the beast is clawing at what little sanity you had left trying to get out. At that point it's a mercy killing, furthermore it's better if it's him rather than the other guy. Oh and on the subject of the bridge in that time period it took a major effort to build a bridge, especially one made out of iron. On top of that this that delicate period after a civil war if the bridge got destroyed the war would have started all over again because both sides would be blaming each other and it would be war all over again. |
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Jul 22, 2019 9:53 PM
#31
Jul 22, 2019 10:15 PM
#32
Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soon 1) Nice englando. Second, he only had one thing on his mind, to see the ocean for the very first time, no matter what. The definition of dementia is: a chronic or persistent disorder of the mental processes caused by brain disease or injury and marked by memory disorders, personality changes, and impaired reasoning. 2) Bridges connects places, without them or even roads, getting goods, medicines and other 1st hand supplies is almost impossible, specially in that era that it's meant to be around the XIX century. 3) The guy in the train literally says that, it was a joint work between the two factions that were previously at war 4) ROFL you sound like some sort of hipster anarchist. 5) Yeah, there's this thing called army in real life, I don't know if you ever heard of that. And your edgy pessimistic view makes me think you're not older than 12. 1) he had just this in mind but avoided cities and hurting people... does his make sense to you? 2. Bridges are meant to enable crossing over a water or a cliff/ deep valley that cannot be easily crossed on foot. This is not the case. Also believe or not 10 meters of railroad can be replace pretty cheap and fast. 3. the guy in the train... so a random person working for the railroad company says this (because he is paid to) and this makes it official? Does this mean it has the same meaning to most people? I think not. 4. No. I just want to return to when police was doing their job of protecting the citizens and were capable of doing so. We do not need a police force that just files complaints and does nothing about it. Maybe start by raising back the standards for entering the police force? 5. You are talking about professional armies, but here is the deal, in a big conflict that army will not have enough people and most countries will resort to forced enlistments. Giant countries like US and Russia will be ok, but the rest... About my pessimistic view is the result of knowing the reality of this world. About my age I do not hold it secret, you just look at the profile and do some 4th grade math Scalpelexis said: nightcrawlercyp said: Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 1. He is almost nuts and probably as the time passes, he will be more nuts. It is the same thing as it was with Will/Dragon. 2. It is a symbol, both sides working on a project together for the benefit of both. It's like the Kesong area on the Korean border, where South Korea manages/brings technology and employs North Koreans. 3. The guy on the train literally explained the importance of the bridge. 1. almost is not good enough. Watch Minority Report if you do not get what I mean 2. Is a rollercoster placed in the most stupid place. A joy ride. 3. The guy in the train works for the railroad station so is paid to boost the importance of the bridge and railroad as much as possible. Think about this: If you depend on your clients buying for service would you not do the same? |
nightcrawlercypJul 22, 2019 10:19 PM
Jul 23, 2019 12:04 AM
#33
[quote=nightcrawlercyp]Another episode in which Hank kills an innocent comrade. He just wanted to see the see. The main issue appeared it will break a damned bridge. Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. Basically real life. Do you realize how important transportation is for the economy. Nobody want their road and bridges to be destroyed. Not me na ah |
Jul 23, 2019 2:07 AM
#34
nightcrawlercyp said: Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soon 1) Nice englando. Second, he only had one thing on his mind, to see the ocean for the very first time, no matter what. The definition of dementia is: a chronic or persistent disorder of the mental processes caused by brain disease or injury and marked by memory disorders, personality changes, and impaired reasoning. 2) Bridges connects places, without them or even roads, getting goods, medicines and other 1st hand supplies is almost impossible, specially in that era that it's meant to be around the XIX century. 3) The guy in the train literally says that, it was a joint work between the two factions that were previously at war 4) ROFL you sound like some sort of hipster anarchist. 5) Yeah, there's this thing called army in real life, I don't know if you ever heard of that. And your edgy pessimistic view makes me think you're not older than 12. 1) he had just this in mind but avoided cities and hurting people... does his make sense to you? 2. Bridges are meant to enable crossing over a water or a cliff/ deep valley that cannot be easily crossed on foot. This is not the case. Also believe or not 10 meters of railroad can be replace pretty cheap and fast. 3. the guy in the train... so a random person working for the railroad company says this (because he is paid to) and this makes it official? Does this mean it has the same meaning to most people? I think not. 4. No. I just want to return to when police was doing their job of protecting the citizens and were capable of doing so. We do not need a police force that just files complaints and does nothing about it. Maybe start by raising back the standards for entering the police force? 5. You are talking about professional armies, but here is the deal, in a big conflict that army will not have enough people and most countries will resort to forced enlistments. Giant countries like US and Russia will be ok, but the rest... About my pessimistic view is the result of knowing the reality of this world. About my age I do not hold it secret, you just look at the profile and do some 4th grade math Scalpelexis said: nightcrawlercyp said: Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Kimurah said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soonnightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 1. He is almost nuts and probably as the time passes, he will be more nuts. It is the same thing as it was with Will/Dragon. 2. It is a symbol, both sides working on a project together for the benefit of both. It's like the Kesong area on the Korean border, where South Korea manages/brings technology and employs North Koreans. 3. The guy on the train literally explained the importance of the bridge. 1. almost is not good enough. Watch Minority Report if you do not get what I mean 2. Is a rollercoster placed in the most stupid place. A joy ride. 3. The guy in the train works for the railroad station so is paid to boost the importance of the bridge and railroad as much as possible. Think about this: If you depend on your clients buying for service would you not do the same? 1. Minority Report? How the hell is Minority Report even connected to this? :-O Ok, I do not need to get to the other 2 points before aknowledging a common pattern of yours: Making assumptions and claims. All of those which are not supported by the story at all. What we should mainly focus is the facts provided by the story itself: 1) Elaine in the beggining says incarnates will go full monster/lose humanity eventually. In the episodes before Danny, Theo and Will served as examples. While turning slowly into monsters, they started to be a menace. The Behemoth, as much as he evaded human losses, still claimed a danger in other areas, such as destroying the important bridge. Nobody knows what could follow. But if you are defending by argument "He might be still human, let him be free", meanwhile he might destroy property of innocent people, albeit in an accident even killing someone, how do you defend not killing it? 2) Are you talking about the bridge? There was probably no better way how to connect the countries than to build that important bridge. In the beggining you can see the train travelling at the border of the cliffs, a probably difficult terrain. 3) You can see all the people being happy on the train. Assuming the ticket checking guy is doing some paid marketing to the bridge? He deeeeeeefinitely looks like he has some notes learned. Because if he wouldn't, every person would be spitting and unhappy about the bridge, right? C'mon. If between point A and B is only one way, I think the importance of such way is quite paramount. Imagine not having in the world buildings like the Suez or Panama canal. We have 20 minutes episodes. There is no time to telling unimportant or not entertaining stuff. If the railroad worker says the bridge is important, as Liza confirms that during the plans of stopping the Behemoth, then it is important. More important than sparing Behemoth's life. |
ScalpelexisJul 23, 2019 2:11 AM
Jul 23, 2019 2:15 AM
#35
_Goldee_ said: I really like this show so far. That Cain guy really reminds me of Dio from JoJo. Good comparison. Both clearly vampires. One thing I don't understand is why Hank and Cain have not changed in any way physically? Is it something to do with their nighttime only transformations? |
Jul 23, 2019 3:08 AM
#36
Schaal's character is lacking development and seemingly is going to stay repetitive for a while, but I guess that she serves her purpose as Hank's contrast point. Hank is shown to be insanely op at this point; insane speed and still the strength the match Behemoth? I wonder what it is that makes him stand out from the other Incarnates. The after-credits scene was brilliant, though. Extremely well done to set up some really ominous foreshadowing and suspense. |
Jul 23, 2019 3:41 AM
#37
People keep saying the giant behemoth dude is innocent, sure he WAS innocent, until he stepped on 5 assholes, those 5 that tried to kill him aside, it triggered the behemoth's nuts meter, as much as Hank described him, do you really think he'd just step on them for an attack that he knows wouldn't kill him? those blasts didnt do shit to him let alone put any scratch. I'd say it tickled him enough to go nuts on them. That being said, good and gore episode! that last part caught me off guard, is Cain like.. a vampire or something? bitches thought he wanted some booty time. |
Jul 23, 2019 4:46 AM
#38
sad end for the behemoth. Well, better see the ocean that he wants to see. this happened a little different in the manga, so some people might want to take a peek. Cain really making sure he's evil. :p Where he get his loli? |
Jul 23, 2019 5:02 AM
#39
Scalpelexis said: nightcrawlercyp said: Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soon 1) Nice englando. Second, he only had one thing on his mind, to see the ocean for the very first time, no matter what. The definition of dementia is: a chronic or persistent disorder of the mental processes caused by brain disease or injury and marked by memory disorders, personality changes, and impaired reasoning. 2) Bridges connects places, without them or even roads, getting goods, medicines and other 1st hand supplies is almost impossible, specially in that era that it's meant to be around the XIX century. 3) The guy in the train literally says that, it was a joint work between the two factions that were previously at war 4) ROFL you sound like some sort of hipster anarchist. 5) Yeah, there's this thing called army in real life, I don't know if you ever heard of that. And your edgy pessimistic view makes me think you're not older than 12. 1) he had just this in mind but avoided cities and hurting people... does his make sense to you? 2. Bridges are meant to enable crossing over a water or a cliff/ deep valley that cannot be easily crossed on foot. This is not the case. Also believe or not 10 meters of railroad can be replace pretty cheap and fast. 3. the guy in the train... so a random person working for the railroad company says this (because he is paid to) and this makes it official? Does this mean it has the same meaning to most people? I think not. 4. No. I just want to return to when police was doing their job of protecting the citizens and were capable of doing so. We do not need a police force that just files complaints and does nothing about it. Maybe start by raising back the standards for entering the police force? 5. You are talking about professional armies, but here is the deal, in a big conflict that army will not have enough people and most countries will resort to forced enlistments. Giant countries like US and Russia will be ok, but the rest... About my pessimistic view is the result of knowing the reality of this world. About my age I do not hold it secret, you just look at the profile and do some 4th grade math Scalpelexis said: nightcrawlercyp said: Kimurah said: nightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Kimurah said: 1. He did not went nuts 2) a bridge it is just a bridge and it did not do that much it was just entertainment 3) Who says this was the symbol of the union? Who decides this? 4) police... the dogs of the state... honestly police stopped doing what is supposed to and only protects corrupt officials for some time now 5) good luck finding someone willing to fight for your sorry ass the next time a war starts, and it seems to be soonnightcrawlercyp said: Apparently bridges are more important than men and greedy business men more important than war heroes. his show makes me puke with every episode. What a retarded backward ass logic Of course a bridge that symbolizes the union of the north and south after a long war, and also allows people to connect populations to transport goods, medicines, and what not is more important than a single man with a clouded vision. Where the bridge investors wrong in meddling with the army's plan? absolutely. They were ignorant and hasty on a plan that was taking it's time. But even if the army plan didn't succeed, the behemoth would had been taken down because he's a menace to man made structures not to mention to all the damage to the landscape. If a veteran went nuts and took people hostage or threatened to destroy an important building if he didn't get what he wanted, the local police would take him down in a heartbeat no matter how many medals he would have earned during war times. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 1. He is almost nuts and probably as the time passes, he will be more nuts. It is the same thing as it was with Will/Dragon. 2. It is a symbol, both sides working on a project together for the benefit of both. It's like the Kesong area on the Korean border, where South Korea manages/brings technology and employs North Koreans. 3. The guy on the train literally explained the importance of the bridge. 1. almost is not good enough. Watch Minority Report if you do not get what I mean 2. Is a rollercoster placed in the most stupid place. A joy ride. 3. The guy in the train works for the railroad station so is paid to boost the importance of the bridge and railroad as much as possible. Think about this: If you depend on your clients buying for service would you not do the same? 1. Minority Report? How the hell is Minority Report even connected to this? :-O Ok, I do not need to get to the other 2 points before aknowledging a common pattern of yours: Making assumptions and claims. All of those which are not supported by the story at all. What we should mainly focus is the facts provided by the story itself: 1) Elaine in the beggining says incarnates will go full monster/lose humanity eventually. In the episodes before Danny, Theo and Will served as examples. While turning slowly into monsters, they started to be a menace. The Behemoth, as much as he evaded human losses, still claimed a danger in other areas, such as destroying the important bridge. Nobody knows what could follow. But if you are defending by argument "He might be still human, let him be free", meanwhile he might destroy property of innocent people, albeit in an accident even killing someone, how do you defend not killing it? 2) Are you talking about the bridge? There was probably no better way how to connect the countries than to build that important bridge. In the beggining you can see the train travelling at the border of the cliffs, a probably difficult terrain. 3) You can see all the people being happy on the train. Assuming the ticket checking guy is doing some paid marketing to the bridge? He deeeeeeefinitely looks like he has some notes learned. Because if he wouldn't, every person would be spitting and unhappy about the bridge, right? C'mon. If between point A and B is only one way, I think the importance of such way is quite paramount. Imagine not having in the world buildings like the Suez or Panama canal. We have 20 minutes episodes. There is no time to telling unimportant or not entertaining stuff. If the railroad worker says the bridge is important, as Liza confirms that during the plans of stopping the Behemoth, then it is important. More important than sparing Behemoth's life. 1. In the minority report they convict people before doing anything just because someone is sure they will just as in this case. 1. Elaine was an incompetent woman that should never have been in charge of the project. She did not even understand how the process works but she tried to heal them... With complex issues does not work like this. 2. How about they dynamite some mountain and make rock paved roads? They have the technology... no better way ... ha 3. When I go on a rolercoaster or or when someone goes on a cruise ship they are happy. Does not make it something essential in any way. It also does not prove they see it as it is described. About the last part I like to be a bit skeptical and not believe everything stranger say just because they have a job or another |
Jul 23, 2019 5:22 AM
#40
I teared up a little when Behemoth was in his dying moments and saw the ocean. |
Jul 23, 2019 5:37 AM
#41
isuzusan said: I teared up a little when Behemoth was in his dying moments and saw the ocean. I don't why people hate this show Its enjoyable Never not bad |
Jul 23, 2019 7:41 AM
#42
isuzusan said: I teared up a little when Behemoth was in his dying moments and saw the ocean. same here. but he was gonna be killed either way, so better see the ocean the he travelled to see before dying. |
Jul 23, 2019 8:03 AM
#43
Show went downhill real fast with the episodic format |
Jul 23, 2019 12:17 PM
#44
Poor Behemoth...glad he had his wish Nothing against fighting 'Incarnate of the week', but I want to see more interaction between Hank and Schaal - the girl needs some character development |
Jul 23, 2019 12:24 PM
#45
Hatsuyuki said: Show went downhill real fast with the episodic format It never was anywhere beyond "generic". With each new episode it just cements its standing as a mere adaptation of a third rate material. |
Re:formed |
Jul 23, 2019 12:39 PM
#46
Daniel_Naumov said: Hatsuyuki said: Show went downhill real fast with the episodic format It never was anywhere beyond "generic". With each new episode it just cements its standing as a mere adaptation of a third rate material. The first episode had me pretty hooked believe it or not, but i never expected anything groundbreaking from this anime, i simply wanted an enjoyable ride which ultimately the anime fails to deliver. |
HatsuyukiJul 23, 2019 12:51 PM
Jul 23, 2019 1:59 PM
#47
Hatsuyuki said: Daniel_Naumov said: Hatsuyuki said: Show went downhill real fast with the episodic format It never was anywhere beyond "generic". With each new episode it just cements its standing as a mere adaptation of a third rate material. The first episode had me pretty hooked believe it or not, but i never expected anything groundbreaking from this anime, i simply wanted an enjoyable ride which ultimately the anime fails to deliver. I admit I also expected a lot after the first episode. So much potential wasted because the author is an amateur, using the same, I will say it, ridiculous cliches all over. |
Re:formed |
Jul 23, 2019 2:28 PM
#48
What's the point in Schaal, she's offered nothing to the story so far |
Jul 23, 2019 2:48 PM
#49
Daniel_Naumov said: Hatsuyuki said: Daniel_Naumov said: Hatsuyuki said: Show went downhill real fast with the episodic format It never was anywhere beyond "generic". With each new episode it just cements its standing as a mere adaptation of a third rate material. The first episode had me pretty hooked believe it or not, but i never expected anything groundbreaking from this anime, i simply wanted an enjoyable ride which ultimately the anime fails to deliver. I admit I also expected a lot after the first episode. So much potential wasted because the author is an amateur, using the same, I will say it, ridiculous cliches all over. Plot will become better in ep 6 |
Jul 23, 2019 4:54 PM
#50
That post credit scene tho... WTF? Cain being able to make ghouls sure was unexpected. Overall, better than previous episodes but it's still lacking in the emotional aspect. Or maybe it was just me the only one who didn't feel anything for this Artie dude... Anyways, the next episode seems it will use the same format but at least, I hope it can give more development for the main duo. They sure need some... |
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