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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- So Lascall Othello incarnated into a hot babe from old geezer?..nice pick, and to know that the Church and the Librarian are working together to protect it existence and heaven's? even the one who kill that actress is Librarian's previous director too.. Hey Matt that's cheating! shooting someone when they are dueling.. Next arc is less-anticipated for me..i guess we won't see Matt in it |
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| Yeah i am also not happy with what has become with Mirepoch. Its ok cheating with old men but how they kill violinist... And in next arc i like to see that Librarian ability. I am very interested about "Sacred eyes" |
| Okay, now THIS is better. If they can keep up the mystery I might (emphasis on 'might') up this from 4/10 to a 5. I certainly didn't think the Church and Librarians were working together on anything, let alone protecting the myth of Lascall Othello. Btw, anyone else wish Mirepoc had died? Hah. |
| Why don't you think they're working together? We've now seen Matt, Hamyuts, and the former director talk to/work with people of the Church (invisible guy). This was a big revelation. And I'm guessing that the old Lascall is a traitor because he told Volken something he had no business knowing. It honestly bumps up my opinion of the overall plot, if that's truly the case. That said, even though such a big detail was dropped, I still don't care about any of the characters, or much of anything that goes on from episode to episode. |
| Its been apparent for a few episodes now that the upper echelon of the Armed librarians has been working with, to some degree, the Church of Drowning in God's Grace. I really want to see Volken again. My theory on Lascall Othello is that he is just an omnipotent/omnipresent being and has just chosen to take on a new form making Mirepoc think that he is dead so she doesn't pursue the issue any further. |
Alaster said: Well think Matt called the Church people to help out with the whole Mirepoc's Lascall Othello obsession....My theory on Lascall Othello is that he is just an omnipotent/omnipresent being and has just chosen to take on a new form making Mirepoc think that he is dead so she doesn't pursue the issue any further. Mirepoc doesnt seem that of an important character for whom Lascall Othello would think dearly about. Why would they make such a boring anime into a 26 episodes?. WHY???!! Have to push myself to watch each an every episode... |
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| Such a fine episode, I'm glad I didn't drop it. Since I knew my predictions would fail, I didn't even expect a 'Mirepoc dies' ending for this arc, but in exchange I got quite an exciting mystery to boost my interests for this anime around 3 times. Nice work, Bantorra. |
| Please, tell me what the plot is from your perspective. To me, the plot is about how most of the world is ignorant of the fact that the Church and Librarians collude to keep information away from the general public, and the destruction of that infrastructure. This is where Volken comes into play. I honestly wonder what side Matt and Hamyuts are on. Matt because it was this secret group that asked him to kill Hamyuts, and Hamyuts...well, that's obvious. As I stated a few episodes ago, it seems like almost the entire first half of the season was total exposition with small plot details and characterization for Hamyuts. I think that with this episode, we are finally getting into the meat of the story, but I'm not sure yet. It could be that that the story itself is relatively small and simplistic, yet the world is supposed to be the most intriguing part. |
| Great episode direction-wise with some nice developments and the ever so good Bantorra atmosphere. Quite a nice episode indeed, even if like all of you, I don't see a clear plot as of now. I guess we'll have to wait a bit to see the script take off. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| Stumm shit ist stumm.... Such a shame that Sawashiro's lovely voice is wasted on such moronic useless annoying gals like Mirepotato or Canaan... |
BitchMasterJan 9, 2010 5:01 PM
 If he's not with us, he's AGAINST us!!! |
| I smell conspiracy. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| so i'm guessing lascal othello is just a title given to a certain person to collect books or something |
the only way to stop a gamer from playing is either: beat them, or wait until they get bored (though 2% percent suffer seizures  |
noteDhero said: Why don't you think they're working together? I said "didn't", meaning it came as a surprise to me. Is that what you meant? Anyway, I guess I didn't think they were working together because I haven't been paying much attention to what was going on, other than the surface stuff (lol). Now that everyone's commented, I can see that, yeah, there really was a lot of foreshadowing/hints that the Church and the Librarians were working together to some extent. I think I missed it simply because I haven't been that interested in this show, Matt's character aside. Anyway, I'll try to pay more attention to what's going on in the future. Maybe Bantorra can pull itself out of the mess it's put itself in. |
| Pfft, I like Mirepoc now. She liked rules; Volken had a particuarly admirable set. When he did something that contradicted everything she knew, she chose to throw her memories of her first love away rather than stay confused. But now she's starting to make her own decisions, and even if she can't figure out what's morally 'right,' she's learned to act for an end. And really, she can handle a sword, but she's a telepath, not a simple fighter; pulling others together is what she's naturally best at. People can't live alone and she makes use of that rather than uselessly rebel against it and revel in an inferiority complex for the rest of her life. Only disappointment is that I was hoping the working together would make Alme give up on fighting by herself, fighting against super powerful organizations like Bantorra and the Church, and be friends with Mirepoc. Okay, more like yuri end, which would also cut Volken off from ever returning to Mirepoc's life. Optimism doesn't always win. And holy shit, the plot may actually be able to come together cleanly! It might be asking too much, but I hope they can tie-in some actual use for Noloty and Enrique, and a full reveal of Hamyuts's backstory. . . .Lastly, rather than a babe, I think the new Othello is a trap. The VA sounds pretty male, at least, unless it's a woman who is so good at voicing little boys/other young children that you CAN'T instantly recognize her. |
yamakasi said: I said "didn't", meaning it came as a surprise to me. Is that what you meant? Anyway, I guess I didn't think they were working together because I haven't been paying much attention to what was going on, other than the surface stuff (lol). Now that everyone's commented, I can see that, yeah, there really was a lot of foreshadowing/hints that the Church and the Librarians were working together to some extent. I think I missed it simply because I haven't been that interested in this show, Matt's character aside. Anyway, I'll try to pay more attention to what's going on in the future. Maybe Bantorra can pull itself out of the mess it's put itself in. Whoops, misunderstanding on my part then. I don't know that it was foreshadowing and hints that we saw. All we knew at that point was that everyone (Church and and Librarians) hated Hamyuts, and she was talking to the enemy. It seemed more like she was a traitor than anything else. Since Matt and Hamyuts' flashback episode though, that tossed things in a different light and we saw that both institutions were/are rotten. Now we are told that they are working together, and Hamyuts' presentation up until now makes more sense. |
Laevantein said: Next arc is less-anticipated for me..i guess we won't see Matt in it So who the hell is this guy then? Maybe not... Also who's the hot babe? I'm anticipating the next one because there seem to be cool looking characters introduced, even if they're in flashbacks. senerikfred said: Only disappointment is that I was hoping the working together would make Alme give up on fighting by herself, fighting against super powerful organizations like Bantorra and the Church, and be friends with Mirepoc. Okay, more like yuri end, which would also cut Volken off from ever returning to Mirepoc's life. That would be too much of a stereotypical plot for an anime. Too hunky dorey campiness run of the mill anime. I agree with the you though Mirepoc seems to be undergoing character development in a positive way. Before this she's nothing more than a walking cell phone for the librarians to relay relay messages and were just following orders blindly without questioning. My keyboard is acting like an SOB right now so that all. |
KathyKaboomJan 10, 2010 7:50 PM
| I still think lascal haven't die ....because i think lascal is the sword itself.A new generation of lascal has appeared and it seems the name of the sword is "Yoru".Base on lascal,Mirepoch and Matt will die.Wahahah >.< Mirepoch's ability is telepathy?..... and Matt's ability is predict future within 3 sec.And still why Mirepoch weaker than Matt.(i guess gun can't win sword)...In this series,Mirepoch's telepathy is useless in battle expect talk(though telepathy).~.~ Main plot(i think)~The secret of heaven .The secret is so heavy to the point that it make the church and library works together .The sword yoru is still on loose .... |
MorningGloryJan 11, 2010 9:53 AM
| Is there anything to discuss? There is some kind of plot that was dropped on the floor from a great height and everything has splattered everywhere. Watermelon I can't even bother to bother to even think to bother to know what the story is or what happened in this episode. It's just completely stupid. That's what you get when you try and mess with God and make 'new' gods...and then false identities and then illusions.... =o=... please... pathetic... Matt is hott. |
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| Awesome ep. I like it when politics is evolved. |
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| This episode just wasn't awesome to me, but it was alright anyway. |
| twist twist twist |
| was gonna shit on the plot where Lascal appeared 2 inches behind Alme trying to butt-rape her but got shot like a tard but it's all part of the plan... Well played.. |
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| Interesting episode with some nice development, the character in this chapter was killed but doesn't seem the end of this chapter yet... lets see what's next! |
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| Okay so now both Matt and Hamyuts are working with the church...Lascall was killed and now we have a new Lascall. So the two sides are at war with each other and yet working together to protect a secret. Now I'm intrigued to see Volken again because I think he figured it out. Also Mirepoc is no longer a rule robot, finally she shows a little personality. |
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sakR9 said: Matt is hott. yeah, but he's also a good character. i like him. |
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| I don't think I can trust anyone from this anime Church and armed librarians are working together? Then why they war against each other ==a Probably because "tradition" or if there's no enemy, it's not really interesting |
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| Well things have gotten a tad more interesting and complicated suddenly. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| So Lascall is indeed the old man that gave Volken that book. It's even Lasacall's own son which he killed himself. WTF Fight between Alme. It just feels like they didn't need to fight, but only did so because Mirepoc has a mission and Alme would probably won't be satisfied until she gets her revenge. Anyone trying pursue Lascall is either dead or the Church will just trick them. |
| I didn't expect that twist at the end. I'm liking where this is going. |
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