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May 16, 2015 2:53 PM
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Well that was quite something...

The fight continues against the Trions and Neighbords with some signature moves coming from the most prominent fighters. I gotta say though...Hairein (I think the captain) and his Black Trigger ability is very dangerous. It allows him to turn people and weapons into trion objects. Yeah..thinking about that makes me nervous lol.
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Use of practice room. And black trigger guy realized immediately. So they want to investigate him before defeating him.

That old guy realizing he hid replica in left hand.

More enemies blocking their way, as well as more helpers including top 1 of level A.

The girl shared her trion to main giy., and hee finisjed one. That caught enemy boss' attention, though.

Trigger with creatures?? It not only change people to cubes, but also weapons. The girl was caught, but main guy hasn't in danger??

Chibi explanation with the creature trigger. Huh??? Fishes?? Lol
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May 16, 2015 4:11 PM
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Hyrein is one tough opponent.

Chika got turned into a cube.
May 16, 2015 4:46 PM
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Enedora might be in a slight pinch, but I'm sure he'll touch the control panel by some means and thus own Suwa squad.

Jin didn't get enough screentime, but still showed off his awesomeness. Just look at his dual blade skills!


Kuga seems to be struggling against Viza a little. Hopefully, he'll manage somehow.

Friggin' Hyrein is OP as hell! If all Trion materials are ineffective against him, how would they even put a scratch on the guy? Now he even got Chika too!

Decent episode. Where is Amo and Kei when you need them? >.<
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May 16, 2015 5:15 PM
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Greate Episode!

oh toei animation...
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Is it just me or does the amount of actual new material decrease with each episode? I mean, Bleach was bad at this, but damn.
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Another good episode.

Captain Hyrein takes the field and reveals his trigger's power. The ability to turn his targets into Trion Cubes. An ideal Trigger for this raid. With this revelation, we now see all of the Rabit's special powers on display and their source.

Hyrein is the Cubing ablility.
Ranbanein is the Cannon/Flight Rabit.
Enedora is the Liquid Blade Rabit.
Hyuse is the Magnet Shard Rabit.

Viza proves to be a tough opponent, but lies to Yuma, which causes him to send Replica to Osamuand Chika's aid.

Chika loans her trion to Osamu who proceeds to destroy 2 Rabits. Nice little flashback to Karasama talking general stradegy with Osamu and Kitora. Which Osamu uses to great effect.

After seeing Suwa Squad fighting Enedora in the training room, Director Shinoda ask Kido to take over and leaves the Command Center. Awesomeness is about to ensue.
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Watcman: "One who fears the dark."

"And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction.

"Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be."

May 16, 2015 6:38 PM
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You idiot. Don't announce a flanking attack to the bad guy. That defeats the whole point of a flanking attack.

Chika being able to loan trion to Osamu is a nice new feature though, really boosts Osamu's attacks. He's being too flashy with it though and wasting power.

Also: dammit cliffhanger.
May 16, 2015 8:20 PM
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Hm since whatever Hyrein's trigger touches gets turn to cubes if its made out of trion wouldn't a way to fight it be to not use a trion body? Hence how Mikumo might die, because if he deactivated his trion body he'll be vulnerable...but then again if ur attacked by anything outside of a trion body wouldn't you just die with your weaker body--lol not really a good strategy. Just a speculation. How else could Mikumo die despite his bail out?
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wow, it only took like 20 episodes, but this show is actually decently entertaining now.

The fights are pretty solid now. I think it would be way more badass if Jin was still able to fight with Fujin. It would have definitely made these fights play out a lot differently.

I'm most looking forward to some of those other teams shown in the Mid-P. (not OP or ED, lol). Especially the 2 girl teams, the ones wearing all white, and the duo in purple. We don't have many prominent female characters besides Chika, Kitora, and Konami, the latter two having much less screen time. And Chika isn't that badass, so it would definitely be a refreshing change of pace.
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Is it just me or does the amount of actual new material decrease with each episode? I mean, Bleach was bad at this, but damn.


No, it didn't! This episode has a lot of content. 3 chapters worth of it!
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In the previous episode, they said 1240s (~21min) until the future is disclosed.
In this episode, they say 1020s (~17min).

WTH, this is turning into DBZ! Next episodes, adjust your clocks to Frieza Time!!

At the current pace, 4 or 5 more episodes expected until the future is disclosed...
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May 16, 2015 10:33 PM

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Loaning trion?? Oh c'mon, then do that in the first place... I do like that it didn't get a whole "Crap we're almost defeated! Isn't there any way to survive!? -Activates new move-" shounen cliche. It was integrated naturally.

But wow, new guy is super OP. That's crazy. It's not impossible to take him down with enough long distance trion users, but for this small group they're screwed.

I guess this trion loaning method will be Osamu's new strength... he really needs a power development. It's frustrating to see such a weak MC... like Chika and Yuuma are showing their worth, but Osamu doesn't have speed, accuracy or superior tactics so far. I wonder if the Neighbours will be taking Chika and they have to go retrieve her from Yuuma's world? That would be really interesting.

Only 20 more episodes! D:
May 16, 2015 10:36 PM

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Good Ep!
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Episode 30: The Enemy Captain, Hyrein
New Character: Rui Osano[Operator, Suwa Unit]

Good episode. Hyrein's BT's awesome! Izumi's animation looks good compared to BT Retrieval Arc animation. Because of Osamu's bad decision, Chika got cubified...

Blow said:
In the previous episode, they said 1240s (~21min) until the future is disclosed.
In this episode, they say 1020s (~17min).

WTH, this is turning into DBZ! Next episodes, adjust your clocks to Frieza Time!!

At the current pace, 4 or 5 more episodes expected until the future is disclosed...

Not really. Countdown will soon be less than one minute before you know it.

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Mirorin said:
I guess this trion loaning method will be Osamu's new strength... he really needs a power development. It's frustrating to see such a weak MC... like Chika and Yuuma are showing their worth, but Osamu doesn't have speed, accuracy or superior tactics so far. I wonder if the Neighbours will be taking Chika and they have to go retrieve her from Yuuma's world? That would be really interesting.

Only 20 more episodes! D:


Next arc my friend........also he needs some data before he can formulate plans, like the battle with Kazama. Osamu isn't just going to get a convenient power-up but he learn from his mistakes.

It was a bad decision but it bought Izumi some time and Hyrein is way too powerful.

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@ Dragon_Slayer_X: Ah well I guess watching weekly eats up my patience, Osamu seems less like the "I don't know what to do!" type in the manga. I really expected him to accelerate since the invasion started, but so far he hasn't done much.

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Is it just me or does the amount of actual new material decrease with each episode? I mean, Bleach was bad at this, but damn.


Nothing happened in even a chapter of Bleach, so each episode had to be dragged out to compensate. World Trigger hasn't had a single episode of fillers and the invasion arc is actually going quite quickly. The plot is progressing at a moderate pace... saying that, this episode actually covered 2 chapters.

Osamu never shouted his flank attack. C'mon...The anime made him look silly dragging Chika around too - in the manga he just suddenly showed up in the flank. :(

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Greate Episode!

oh toei animation...


Looked about the same in the manga. Don't be so mean to toei lol.


For anyone if they're wondering. This episode covered chapter 67-68.
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Mirorin said:
@ Dragon_Slayer_X: Ah well I guess watching weekly eats up my patience, Osamu seems less like the "I don't know what to do!" type in the manga. I really expected him to accelerate since the invasion started, but so far he hasn't done much.


Well you can't except a weak B-rank to do something against enemies even the A-rank agents are having trouble with........this is more like a development arc for Osamu. The best part is just getting started. But i do agree that World Trigger can test one's patience as a weekly watch.

Osamu is like a breath of fresh air for me actually, he is just normal without any hidden or convenient powers but he can surprise you pretty well. The battle against Kazama is a good examples. He lacks the experience though since it hasn't been much time since he joined border or got promoted to B-rank.

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Wow cool to find out u can link Trion :3 This way Osamu can be helpful for a while XD

This just proves how strong Konami is defeating all those rabbits so easily ^^;

Loved Yuma's fighting skills. His combos are awesome :D

Goddammit though Chika got hit D: Dammit Osamu! U had one job!
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Mirorin said:

For anyone if they're wondering. This episode covered chapter 67-68.


No it didn't! It covered chapter 66 to 68! 3 chapters.

Mirorin said:

Osamu never shouted his flank attack. C'mon...The anime made him look silly dragging Chika around too - in the manga he just suddenly showed up in the flank. :(


Also wrong! He in fact screamed Asteroid!
"suddenly showing up in the flank" in the manga, doesn't mean the anime can't show what happened. Also it wasn't that "sudden", because there is a panel where he is getting to the flank with speed line, representing him getting there.
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Dragon_Slayer_X said:

Osamu is like a breath of fresh air for me actually, he is just normal without any hidden or convenient powers but he can surprise you pretty well. The battle against Kazama is a good examples. He lacks the experience though since it hasn't been much time since he joined border or got promoted to B-rank.

I highly agree with this :) Some (or many, idk) might feel that Osamu is boring but I think he's really interesting in that he really has nothing special. So far it seems that his speciality will be in strategies/tactics, but even then, he's kind of learning it as he goes along, as we saw this happen first with Kazama. Perhaps it's just because he really thinks things through or remembers the tips given to him. I find him interesting in this regard.
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bigivelfhq said:

Mirorin said:

Osamu never shouted his flank attack. C'mon...The anime made him look silly dragging Chika around too - in the manga he just suddenly showed up in the flank. :(


Also wrong! He in fact screamed Asteroid!


Those are thought bubbles, not speech bubbles. So in the manga, Osamu didn't loudly announce his intention to flank and didn't scream Asteroid.
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bigivelfhq said:



Also wrong! He in fact screamed Asteroid!


Those are thought bubbles, not speech bubbles. So in the manga, Osamu didn't loudly announce his intention to flank and didn't scream Asteroid.


The asteroid one, it isn't! That type of bubble shows him explosively screaming! That is why it seems an explosion and that is why is mouth is open!

This is an action shounen so the "special attacks" are always speak out loud. In World Trigger case, is the activation of their triggers. In this case the "asteroid".


There is also another instance of this in the chapter next to that
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Nice ep! I was really curious about Hairein's black trigger and it did not disappoint. Also, I'm really happy to see the rating for this show moving up out of 6.-something territory and into the 7's. Yay! I felt kinda sad about it. . .it got off to a slow-ish start but with it has gotten better and better every week! It's gotten really good lately (after the introduction of the Aftokrators)! I am looking forward to more! :D

I recently checked out the manga. I have not looked at any chapters past where the anime is currently. I will say nothing other than it looks really great and that the action is rendered beautifully! I'll definitely be reading it after the anime ends.
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bigivelfhq said:

The asteroid one, it isn't! That type of bubble shows him explosively screaming! That is why it seems an explosion and that is why is mouth is open!

This is an action shounen so the "special attacks" are always speak out loud. In World Trigger case, is the activation of their triggers. In this case the "asteroid".


I still think those are thought bubble. Many of WT characters have mouth open even when not saying anything, especially Yuuma. At any rate, if it's indeed screams, then .
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p-kun said:
bigivelfhq said:

The asteroid one, it isn't! That type of bubble shows him explosively screaming! That is why it seems an explosion and that is why is mouth is open!

This is an action shounen so the "special attacks" are always speak out loud. In World Trigger case, is the activation of their triggers. In this case the "asteroid".


I still think those are thought bubble. Many of WT characters have mouth open even when not saying anything, especially Yuuma. At any rate, if it's indeed screams, then .


I agree, those are thought bubbles. Screaming bubbles are like the one where Osamu shouts "Oh no, you don't!". It's fine though, I don't care whenever a chara thinks or shouts his attack as long as it happens. In both cases Hyrein would have been able to block Osamu, his Alektor is that awesome.

Just 4 mins recap, nice~
Suwa's such a wonderful cannonfodder, pissing Enedra off. XD
I like that their first focus is to find out the weaknesses of Enedra's trigger instead of just hitting him so often till he is defeated like you usually see it happening with the good guys suddenly overpowering the till then superstrong villians outta nowhere.

Lotsa jumps from fights like Jin vs Hyuse to Yuuma vs Viza to Rabbits vs Osamu/Karasuma and C-ranks. Yuuma lost his left arm, that shows how good this old man is. I wonder if Yuuma is from Tropoi given that Replica is an autonomous trion soldier from that nation.

I liked Chika holding Osamu's hand giving him her power to shoot with. Reminded me of the sadly gone Double Arts manga~
Them asteroid cubes though! If Chika was more of a shooter she would so wreck entire armies on her own! Imagine her meteors or how huge her Tomahawks and Gimlets would be! XD

Too bad Osamu got too cocky there with the enourmous power lend by Chika. Should have run with her instead of trying to take down Hyrein, a BT user and leader of the Aftokrator invasion force. Now Chika paid the price for his recklessness and turned into a cube. :C
I will never forgive you if you let them take Chika with them, Osamu!!!

I guess now everyone can see why Osamu might die in 1020 seconds as there is no way he will ever leave Chika behind in that helpless form. Doubt Chika would be happy though if she gets saved but finds out Osamu died protecting her.....
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Yes, Osamu conitues to show his inexperience, but is making some good moves, like taking out the 2 Rabits.

The fight is now heading into it's endgame with Hyrein entering the fray. And the Fact that the Rabits they dropped on Osamu and Company are the last 7 Rabits the Raiders have. The fact that Izumi, Yoneya and Midorikawa (A-Ranked Agents) were suprised by the toughness of the Rabits is a reminder that of just how tough / dangerous they are.

One of the things I liked about the Suwa Squad /Enedora fight is how they aren't just trying to pin Enedora down but are using the battle to expose Enedora's weaknesses so they can defeat him. Enedora's Black Trigger is something different and until it's secrets are revealed, defeating it will be hard. Kazama got taken out by an unknown attack, right on the verge defeating Enedore.
Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?"

Watcman: "One who fears the dark."

"And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction.

"Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be."

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Well this episode was quite interesting :D

The only thing that I didn't like was how the ability of barrowing Trion came out of nowhere :/
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Well this episode was quite interesting :D

The only thing that I didn't like was how the ability of barrowing Trion came out of nowhere :/


Actually, It didn't. In a early episode we had Yuma using Osamu's trigger, meaning triggers are not exclusive to their user. Also there are several instances where Agents have supported, added their own power, to another Agent's defense. (Full Guard) The best example was during the battle with Ranbanein, when 4 agents helped shield Yoneya against Ranbanein's fire during his final attack. All Chika did was channel her trion into Osamu, allowing him to power his trigger at much higher levels.

It is likely that this ability, Trion sharing, was something that Border intentionally built into their triggers. Or perhaps, a result of the standardization of Border's triggers.
Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?"

Watcman: "One who fears the dark."

"And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction.

"Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be."

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I keep wondering why the hell don't we see more black triggers from Border helping out in this mess.
I mean it was mate clear what the enemy is after and were the enemy throws his real power so why is Border not throwing strong cards against them?
They should have send all those A rank agents coming to help to handle problems in other areas and send the black triggers guys to help with this mess. Also were is that super skillful dude with the weird eyes that was suppose to help them a few episodes back. He never appeared.
Also wtf is with head-quarters. Seriously their base just lets a guy roam around doing as he likes? Shouldn't they have at least a black trigger and a few highly capable A-ranks as defense to their base?
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nice episode with cool fights and if they are running to the base why not just use bail out?
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wow, it only took like 20 episodes, but this show is actually decently entertaining now.

The fights are pretty solid now. I think it would be way more badass if Jin was still able to fight with Fujin. It would have definitely made these fights play out a lot differently.

I'm most looking forward to some of those other teams shown in the Mid-P. (not OP or ED, lol). Especially the 2 girl teams, the ones wearing all white, and the duo in purple. We don't have many prominent female characters besides Chika, Kitora, and Konami, the latter two having much less screen time. And Chika isn't that badass, so it would definitely be a refreshing change of pace.

You will have to wait for the next arc to get a prominent battle from one of the all girl teams
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nice episode with cool fights and if they are running to the base why not just use bail out?

C-Ranks can't bail out
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nice episode with cool fights and if they are running to the base why not just use bail out?

C-Ranks can't bail out


Indeed, that is why they call C-Ranks "Baby Birds" as they can't fly away.
Although they pretty much forgotten most of them and went only after Chika, as she has Trion much larger than all the other C's combined.
I wonder if Osamu will reach the base, get her turned back then continue what they did before, having Decoys distract the enemies, then they flank with Asteroid, though it looks like they have already run out of luck with that tactic, since most of the enemies it seems are the Humanoid Neighbors, which won't fall for that tactic so easily.

Last it said 1,060 seconds left until the divergence of whether Osamu lives or not.
900 secs=15 mins, so next episode should decide it.
Or atleast I hope so, I hate that they use like 5 to 8 minutes just previewing what happened last episode, which eats away at a lot of time...
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Osamu you idiot...that dude could have bailed out and you could have gotten Chika to safety.
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I hate that they use like 5 to 8 minutes just previewing what happened last episode, which eats away at a lot of time...


Is only 2 minutes normally, this episode 2 minutes and 30 seconds, and last week that was the biggest exception was almost 3 minutes(2 minutes and 55 seconds to be precise).
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I keep wondering why the hell don't we see more black triggers from Border helping out in this mess.
I mean it was mate clear what the enemy is after and were the enemy throws his real power so why is Border not throwing strong cards against them?
They should have send all those A rank agents coming to help to handle problems in other areas and send the black triggers guys to help with this mess. Also were is that super skillful dude with the weird eyes that was suppose to help them a few episodes back. He never appeared.
Also wtf is with head-quarters. Seriously their base just lets a guy roam around doing as he likes? Shouldn't they have at least a black trigger and a few highly capable A-ranks as defense to their base?


Border only has 2 black triggers! The one from Jin, that right now isn't his and Amo that is dealing with the West of the base.
Well, right now counting with Yuma they now have 3 black triggers.

The skillfull dude with "the weird eyes that was suppose to help them", is called Tachikawa and he wasn't supposed to help them. His mission is to go after the Rabbits.

Border sent the strongest team, Yuma, Jin and 3 A agents(Yoneya, Izumi, Midorikawa). Tachikawa is in a Rabbit hunting mission, and Miwa is also rescuing C-Class agents.

The Head-Quarters didn't let the guy roam around doing as he likes! he entered by an air vent, and started attacking none fighting personal. Right now they sent Suwa team to stall for time.
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bigivelfhq said:
Monad said:
I keep wondering why the hell don't we see more black triggers from Border helping out in this mess.
I mean it was mate clear what the enemy is after and were the enemy throws his real power so why is Border not throwing strong cards against them?
They should have send all those A rank agents coming to help to handle problems in other areas and send the black triggers guys to help with this mess. Also were is that super skillful dude with the weird eyes that was suppose to help them a few episodes back. He never appeared.
Also wtf is with head-quarters. Seriously their base just lets a guy roam around doing as he likes? Shouldn't they have at least a black trigger and a few highly capable A-ranks as defense to their base?


Border only has 2 black triggers! The one from Jin, that right now isn't his and Amo that is dealing with the West of the base.
Well, right now counting with Yuma they now have 3 black triggers.

The skillfull dude with "the weird eyes that was suppose to help them", is called Tachikawa and he wasn't supposed to help them. His mission is to go after the Rabbits.

Border sent the strongest team, Yuma, Jin and 3 A agents(Yoneya, Izumi, Midorikawa). Tachikawa is in a Rabbit hunting mission, and Miwa is also rescuing C-Class agents.

The Head-Quarters didn't let the guy roam around doing as he likes! he entered by an air vent, and started attacking none fighting personal. Right now they sent Suwa team to stall for time.

And Shinoda personally guards Border HQ
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bigivelfhq said:

Is only 2 minutes normally.


Ah gomen, I'm not used to an episode-to-episode recap, not ever since Bleach but that only happened ever so often.
*Ahem* Anyhow, the story certainly has gotten in higher octane now!

Another thing to take note is that Amo, whose apparently the strongest agent they have, is uncontrollable, they had him attack the West because nothing/no one was there, as you can tell, nothing but flatland where he was at.
If he were to move to where the others are, they'd be dead, so it's just one Black Trigger right now, so it's just a battle of wits and tactics from here on out, unless they decide to give Jin his trigger back, but I highly doubt that.
I don't read manga(Well, only Bleach) so I dunno what's going to happen next.
But one thing is for sure; I hope the badass action won't stop anytime soon!
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Ichirai_Shonin said:

Ah gomen, I'm not used to an episode-to-episode recap, not ever since Bleach but that only happened ever so often.


Really!? I recently started watching Bleach from where I stopped, the end of bount arc(and yes I'm caught up with the manga, but after the bount arc I lost my interest in the anime), and I'm around 37 episodes in the Arrancar arc and every single episode of them had a preview(Note: A preview is not the same as a recap!).



Ichirai_Shonin said:

Another thing to take note is that Amo, whose apparently the strongest agent they have, is uncontrollable, they had him attack the West because nothing/no one was there, as you can tell, nothing but flatland where he was at.
If he were to move to where the others are, they'd be dead, so it's just one Black Trigger right now, so it's just a battle of wits and tactics from here on out, unless they decide to give Jin his trigger back, but I highly doubt that.
I don't read manga(Well, only Bleach) so I dunno what's going to happen next.
But one thing is for sure; I hope the badass action won't stop anytime soon!


In reality Amo can control himself, he just didn't do it in the North West area.

The guys in the control room when first talked of him only talked as a problem his appearance, and also noted how he was like Jin and liking to do his own thing, so it would be hard to avoid people seeing him.
When Jin met with Amo he asked to controlled himself a little and Amo responded that because the enemies were all weak he couldn't get into the mood.

Also Amo is the agent with the biggest firepower, strongest is a little debatable.
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Am I the only one who is starting to think the 'bad future' would actually be good for this anime...Am I the only one who is starting to think the 'bad future' would actually be good for this anime...

I am really trying to give Osamu a chance, but we are 30 episodes in, you have to give us something.

I thought perhaps they would have some cliche where his true power was suppressed, maybe him being called 'four eyes' was a hint his glasses are secretly suppressing his trion levels! Or something silly xD. thought perhaps they would have some cliche where his true power was suppressed, maybe him being called 'four eyes' was a hint his glasses are secretly suppressing his trion levels! Or something silly xD.

But in this episode, he was given trion and the enemy pointed out how unskilled he was. He has no power, no skill and this episode also showed him underestimate his opponent and use poor strategy. I really want to like Osamu, but it is getting harder.. give us something to work with here.ut in this episode, he was given trion and the enemy pointed out how unskilled he was. He has no power, no skill and this episode also showed him underestimate his opponent and use poor strategy. I really want to like Osamu, but it is getting harder.. give us something to work with here.

Is he really going to be this useless throughout the whole anime? even if it is cliche, I was hoping for some breakthrough >.<.Is he really going to be this useless throughout the whole anime? even if it is cliche, I was hoping for some breakthrough >.<.
"When everyone else is about to give up, the fighter who becomes the role model, is the true Leader."

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Am I the only one who is starting to think the 'bad future' would actually be good for this anime...Am I the only one who is starting to think the 'bad future' would actually be good for this anime...


Really? Because guess who links the other MCs in the story? Because we can be sure Yuuma doesn't care about border that much.


TehWhiteTiger said:
I am really trying to give Osamu a chance, but we are 30 episodes in, you have to give us something.

I thought perhaps they would have some cliche where his true power was suppressed, maybe him being called 'four eyes' was a hint his glasses are secretly suppressing his trion levels! Or something silly xD. thought perhaps they would have some cliche where his true power was suppressed, maybe him being called 'four eyes' was a hint his glasses are secretly suppressing his trion levels! Or something silly xD.


So you are complaining that he isn't getting a cliche or convenient power-up? Not in this series........he actually has to work hard and utilize what he has.


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But in this episode, he was given trion and the enemy pointed out how unskilled he was. He has no power, no skill and this episode also showed him underestimate his opponent and use poor strategy. I really want to like Osamu, but it is getting harder.. give us something to work with here.ut in this episode, he was given trion and the enemy pointed out how unskilled he was. He has no power, no skill and this episode also showed him underestimate his opponent and use poor strategy. I really want to like Osamu, but it is getting harder.. give us something to work with here.


Ummm seriously why are you forgetting those last 7 Rabits were the toughest and used the magnetic attacks for the first time (for a Rabit anyway) and even 4 A-rank people were having trouble. Osamu's support helped them take down 2 pretty quickly. Give the guy the credit he deserves will you? Nobody is telling you to like him but don't purposefully ignore his achievements. Every time he is involved, it has always been a positive result for the people around him and Border.

Moreover his enemy is one of the strongest ones and perfect counter for Trion users/attacks. Rather than unskilled, he doesn't have much experience since he joined not long ago (6 months) and he also became a B-rank agent not long ago not to mention he wasn't born with any special abilities or huge amount of trion. He can make pretty good strategies if he has enough data (next arc will show just how good he is in strategies......) aka battle against Kazama if you don't remember correctly. His plan wasn't bad (but he did get a bit cocky which rarely happens for Osamu) and it may have worked well against other ones but Hyrein's trigger is too op.

TehWhiteTiger said:
Is he really going to be this useless throughout the whole anime? even if it is cliche, I was hoping for some breakthrough >.<.Is he really going to be this useless throughout the whole anime? even if it is cliche, I was hoping for some breakthrough >.<.


Sorry no cliche in this series amigo........friendship and feeling won't win battles here or get convenient power-up for the sake of plot. He is weak but not useless (almost all of his involvements has positive results) and there are several ways of fighting rather than simply beating your opponent.

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TehWhiteTiger said:
Is he really going to be this useless throughout the whole anime? even if it is cliche, I was hoping for some breakthrough >.<.Is he really going to be this useless throughout the whole anime? even if it is cliche, I was hoping for some breakthrough >.<.


Useless as in powerwise? Then yes, he doesn't get much better at his power level. As shown in the 20-1 battle, he always gets better at using what he has from learning through losing.

One other thing that you missed but will be very blatantly thrown into the viewer's face at the end of the current war arc is the answer to a very simple question.

Why does Yuma (the god tier fighter) refuse to be the leader but instead only accepts Osamu (the mouse tier fighter)?
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I'm so fired up for the next ep now omg I can't even- :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Really!? I recently started watching Bleach from where I stopped, the end of bount arc(and yes I'm caught up with the manga, but after the bount arc I lost my interest in the anime), and I'm around 37 episodes in the Arrancar arc and every single episode of them had a preview.(Note: A preview is not the same as a recap!)


I don't see a reason to get so heated about an anime unrelated to this...
I only mentioned Bleach 'cause it's all I could think of as a reference.
Oh, and a preview(I consider) is at the end, and shows for the NEXT episode, when it's previous(To me) episode it's a recap, or a slight overlap of the last episode. And the recapping is nowhere as strong compared to this...
Anyhow! Back on topic!

bigivelfhq said:

In reality Amo can control himself, he just didn't do it in the North West area.

The guys in the control room when first talked of him only talked as a problem his appearance, and also noted how he was like Jin and liking to do his own thing, so it would be hard to avoid people seeing him.
When Jin met with Amo he asked to controlled himself a little and Amo responded that because the enemies were all weak he couldn't get into the mood.


I know he can control himself, I merely used "Uncontrollable" as "Unpredictable", by meaning he decides whether he goes all-out or not, and not a Yessir-type of guy.
Although I'm not so good with the appropriate words to use right away...
It was a mistake on my part, but besides that.

TehWhiteTiger said:
Am I the only one who is starting to think the 'bad future' would actually be good for this anime...Am I the only one who is starting to think the 'bad future' would actually be good for this anime...

I am really trying to give Osamu a chance, but we are 30 episodes in, you have to give us something.


I must agree with you, the main character needs at LEAST something, chika is becoming MORE of a main protagonist than Osamu.
He's got a bit of brains, but if he can't think of better tactics, or adapt to situations better, he's just a regular C-Rank, which he still pretty much is as he only got B-Rank thanks to Yuuma.
Hopefully next episode will give Osamu a change to shine, or, just remain a depressing shadow... So far, he's only good as a straight man character...
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Noitora is trapped by the Suwa Squad

Barragon found out about Replica

Konan sends 7 Rabbits to Meedan.

Osamu with Chika's Trion defeated 2 Rabbits

Pein appears and he OP everyone with his chakra err Trion ability

CHIKA NOOOOOOOOOO

17 minutes left OMG
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I must agree with you, the main character needs at LEAST something, chika is becoming MORE of a main protagonist than Osamu.
He's got a bit of brains, but if he can't think of better tactics, or adapt to situations better, he's just a regular C-Rank, which he still pretty much is as he only got B-Rank thanks to Yuuma.
Hopefully next episode will give Osamu a change to shine, or, just remain a depressing shadow... So far, he's only good as a straight man character...


He really doesn't have anything but his tactics, guts and perseverance. He's your typical everyman in a cast full of super humans and that's really what his main role is. I personally find it refreshing.



There is no convenient shounen power up. He wont become godlike because of some asspull BS. He's the complete antithesis of a typical shounen main protagonist. And some of us quite like that aspect of him. As I said, it's quite refreshing.

He fails. A lot. But he doesn't brood on those failures (unlike every other stereo-typically weak protagonist) but instead tries to learn from them in order to better himself. One baby step at a time. That aspect of him actually reflects real life a lot. May be it even reflects you. We're not all born geniuses after all. That's his point as a character.
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He really doesn't have anything but his tactics, guts and perseverance. He's your typical everyman in a cast full of super humans and that's really what his main role is. I personally find it refreshing.

There is no convenient shounen power up. He wont become godlike because of some asspull BS. He's the complete antithesis of a typical shounen main protagonist. And some of us quite like that aspect of him. As I said, it's quite refreshing.

He fails. A lot. But he doesn't brood on those failures (unlike every other stereo-typically weak protagonist) but instead tries to learn from them in order to better himself. One baby step at a time. That aspect of him actually reflects real life a lot. May be it even reflects you. We're not all born geniuses after all. That's his point as a character.


Hmmm, I do agree that it's good to have a strong-willed protagonist, but I meant by not for him to get a power-up all of a sudden, but for is efforts to show some resolve, you don't want to be all "I can do it!" and not yield any fruit.
Only thing I'd like to see is a slight increase in his abilities, skills, and where he doesn't rely on defense too much. Being the strong-willed character is good, but I know many people agree that it's also important, not to be "Super-human", but to at least be a key asset, or a vital component in a fight.
I mean, something to where he could at LEAST be toe-to-toe against a Rabbit...
Even though how he is now is good, it still hinges on the viewers, of whether being a good enough protagonist or not...
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That was pretty fun to watch. Chika's trion is something else! I can't imagine what would happen if Izumi combined that with his control! I wanted to see more of Jin fighting tbh because that twin blade skill was epic.

The new opponent is OP kind of reminds me of Pain from Naruto. I can't wait to see how Osamu will get out of this one.
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