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Sep 14, 2014 10:57 PM
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Once again, the prologue teases us the end of the volume. I'm hoping to learn more about the Land of the Fallen Tears and where the voices from there originated, but I do have a guess. Nashetania is back again, and I'm expecting to learn more about her relationship with Dozzu. One of the major questions is though whether Goldof will betray the Six Heroes for Nashetania or get over her and focus on defeating the Majin.
Sep 16, 2014 6:13 AM
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Nashetania is back again, and I'm expecting to learn more about her relationship with Dozzu.

This will be answered before the end, as well as Dozzu's goal.
As you guessed, this volume mainly focus on Goldoff.
Sep 11, 2015 11:56 AM
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I enjoyed the first and second volumes more, but this volume was still a good read.

It was interesting to learn about Goldof, but it's kind of a let down that he really just doesn't have much of a personality :/ and also that he's blindly loyal to the princess over the six flowers. Especially since it's pretty clear he's genuine, and he has to know that Nashetania will just use him over and over again. Unless he majorly develops throughout the series I think it's safe to say that I am not a fan of him...

It was quite sweet to see everyone worrying about Chamot. I was surprised that even Hans and Fremy were concerned. It's still taking me some time to warm up to Chamot, but I definitely don't hate her like I did in the first volume. Also, I didn't want her to die so that has to mean something.

Not really sure how I feel about Dozzu, but he's definitely interesting. This alliance worries me...also, I didn't miss Nashetania ._.

And the mystery with the seventh continues *sighs* If we're going to take Goldof off the list for possible sevenths, admittedly I think the most suspicious person is Hans...but I really hope he's not the seventh because I'm sick of my favorite characters either being traitors or dying -.- But even Hans wouldn't make sense because of the way he's acted in these three volumes...

I'm thinking of the possibility that the seventh may not know they're the seventh...no wait, the way Tegeneu talked about the seventh makes it seem like they're self aware. Unless he's only talking that way to the heroes to threaten them with the possibility of the seventh taking action. Or the crest he put on the seventh forces them against their will to follow his orders...so either the seventh is a fantastically amazing actor/actress or they're being forced/controlled somehow.

But then there's also the fact that in the prologue the Majin was hissing out the names of all seven of them with hatred...if one of them was working with Tegeneu then why would the Majin hate them? And also, why would the Majin know their name? I'm assuming the Majin automatically knows who the heroes are somehow, so it shouldn't have known the name of the seventh. Also, I don't think Cargikk and Tegeneu actually report to the Majin. At least, that's how the prologue made it seem.

Speaking of the prologue, the one in this volume is my favorite. I thought it was really cool, and I liked that it wasn't the spoiler type. I was also surprised that it is apparently a female. I always thought it was either gender neutral or male for some reason.

So now, onto volume four. Too bad that the translation for it hasn't been completed yet :(

EDIT: This has been on my mind for a while: Isn't one of the requirements for being chosen as a flower to genuinely want to defeat the Majin? If that's the case, then how on Earth did Goldof get chosen? That guy doesn't have a single desire aside from protecting Nashetania. Anyway, this is also another thing that makes me suspicious of Hans. It's true that his backstory has yet to be revealed, but as of now it seems like he's not actually all that interested in defeating the Majin...
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Sep 16, 2015 6:29 PM
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Damn. So good. We finally get a hero other than Adlet saving the day... and I never expected it to be Goldof. He was a baller in this one. I'll definitely admit that this book had me confused the most trying to figure out what was happening of all the volumes so far. I need Vol 4 (and on) to get completely translated though...
Sep 18, 2015 5:27 AM
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I think Goldof is the most pitiful one. I feel so sorry for the boy. Once again Nashetania proved what a bitch she was.

This volume confused me quite a bit. After Mora's incident i started to think that the seventh might not know they're the seventh. But then we witnessed Tgurneu's talk with his subordinate. No 18 suggested to get help from the seventh and Tgurneu got very angry. What are we supposed to think about that? Is this another trap the author set for us? Like he wants us to think that the seventh is aware of himself/herself but he/she actually isn't? Coz Tgurneu didn't say anything about that. I think this scene is the biggest mistery we've seen so far.

The seventh might be aware or not. I suspect two people for these situations.

In the first volume we read the seventh's thoughts. At the end of the volume the fake one turned out to be Nashetania and i assumed that those thougts belonged to her. The seventh wanted to make someone else kill Adlet. But Nashetania attacked him. There is a chance that those thougts belonged to the other fake. Do you remember how quickly Hans believed in Adlet's innocence? He stepped aside and the others (like Mora, Nashetania and Goldof) tried to kill Adlet. If the seventh knows he/she is the seventh then Hans is my number one suspect. Well, he is also one of my favorites so i don't want this scenario to be real. I don't want him to be the bad guy.

There's another possibility. We know how tricky the author is. One by one he's been clearing the suspicions about the characters. We know how Adlet got the seal. We know that Mora and Goldof tried to figure out the seventh's identity because they're not the seventh. But what if this is another trick? What if Adlet's seal is a fake that Tgurneu gave him? We might have been tricked since the beginning of the story. If the seventh doesn't know that he/she is the seventh then my suspect is Adlet. I like Adlet more than Hans but I'd prefer this scenario. Adlet is not a bad guy so even if he turned out to be the fake one he would still help them. He hates the majin, he hates the kyoma, he hates Tgurneu and he's head over heels for Fremy.
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Sep 19, 2015 9:03 PM
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Kitiara said:

As for your speculation about the seventh I agree with you on everything. If the seventh if self aware, then it's almost definitely Hans. We still hardly know anything about him, and there have been many scenes were he acted kind of oddly or suspiciously. However, he's also gotten in way too much danger. He was even killed in the last volume, and it seemed like Tgurneu truly hadn't known that Mora planned to revive the flower she killed. I'm still very confused as to why he told Mora that she could kill anyone, even the seventh, and he would uphold his end of the deal. SO MANY MYSTERIES.

If the seventh is not self aware, which I think is way more likely, then I think it's Adlet. It seems like the kind of curve ball this author would throw at us. Of course, this also raises a hell of a lot of questions. What is the point of a seventh who is not self aware? Could Tgurneu possibly be able to control him but he's waiting for the right time? Have messages actually been reaching the seventh but their memories are erased from conscious memory and only brought back at certain moments? That one wouldn't really make sense...I suppose there's also the possibility that Tgurneu sent a seventh even if he couldn't control them specifically so that the heroes would be stuck in this situation of being suspicious of everyone, not knowing who to trust, worried about someone suddenly betraying them, and thus not fighting to their full potential.

We'll have to wait and see, I suppose. I know that Adlet would never willingly help the Kyoma, but if he really is the seventh and if Tgurneu can control him through the fake crest and force him to attack the other flowers...man, things are going to get ugly. I would also feel really bad for him for so many reasons. If he is the seventh, then he really wasn't chosen as a brave even after he went through hell and back to achieve that. And then of course finding out that he's the fake, that he's the one being used by Tgurneu, and that he's the one who put the other flowers in danger...I'm sure that won't be a good feeling, especially for a guy like Adlet. He's strong, but I wonder if even he would collapse in that situation.

Again, everyone, this is just speculation, none of what I discussed were spoilers of any kind.
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Sep 25, 2015 3:43 PM
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Goldov: I will protect the princess. That is the most important thing for me. The victory of the Six Flowers comes second.


My man, Goldov, that hurt me ;_;
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Oct 2, 2015 4:41 AM
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First off: i did NOT miss Nashetanye, and i was hoping i didn't have to see her name again after this volume.

Anyway, i was thinking Goldof could be the seventh for like a minute there, but it turned out he just couldn't live without his precious princess. Anyway, now this Dozzu character is also thrown in the mix, and i'm sure he'll help Nashetanye manipulate Goldof into even more F'd up things... *sigh* I really couldn't care less about him anymore though.

But one thing that came from this is: Goldof is not the seventh. Unless he's somehow become a brilliant actor.

Another would be confirmation that Nashetanye is indeed a bitch that deserves to die.
Jan 26, 2016 10:30 AM
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This series just keeps getting better and better.

The relationship between Goldof and Nashetania was really fleshed out in the backstory, having to grow up in those kind of conditions would make anyone sad but as he was abnormally strong, he managed somehow.

Tgurneu seems to be one move ahead/behind the Heroes to the point his actions are cancelled out in a strange way. The fact that he was able to manipulate Adlet into thinking Nashetania is the direct cause for Chamo's plight was well demonstrated. Even the lost arm had a lot of significance by fooling Rolonia.

The introduction of Dozzu asks some questions, he was giving the hero mark by Pressio which is now or used to be in the hands of Nashetania (not sure about that). Can these marks (fake or not) be transferred between prospective hero candidates and existing heroes?
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Feb 16, 2016 11:23 AM

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Well that was quite the ride.

Gotta admit, I wasn't the biggest fan of Goldof in the beginning, but I really liked him this time around. His backstory and relationship with Nashetania was done pretty well, and I can definitely understand why he acted like he did.

Tgurneu just continues to amaze me, he is truly is a brilliant villain imo, but also quite the douchebag. Laughed quite a bit when he said "Alright, Number 26. I’m going to root for you from here. Good luck, fight hard, don’t give up!”, pretty funny to have some humor in between the situation. Not sure what to say about the ending though...well I don't mind Dozzu but Nashetanie should just die already. Well I'm looking forward to who will be the focus in the next volume!
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I don't get all of the Nashetania hate... I mean she's definitely not my favorite character either (Fremy master race), but all she did this volume was get captured, bound, and had her limb ripped off to fool Rolonia. Everything else was Nashetania's clone controlled by Tgurneu. Sure, she activated the blade-gem but she didn't even want to. They explained that it was necessary for their survival. I'm aware that she had planted the blade-gem years ago, but this situation is not how they wanted to use it.

I'm actually more mad at Goldof. All he had to do was communicate. I understand he had hardships and the like growing up and sometimes it's not that easy to "just speak" considering he attacked his comrades, but please. Especially when Adlet was on his own he could have said something. Adlet is looking to help everyone and I'm sure he would have heard Goldof out. But then again if he did that, he wouldn't have won the battle again the kyoma hiding Nashetania... Just reading this series makes me mad but it's too good to not read. Still a 10/10, no matter how frustrated I get
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I don't get all of the Nashetania hate... I mean she's definitely not my favorite character either (Fremy master race), but all she did this volume was get captured, bound, and had her limb ripped off to fool Rolonia. Everything else was Nashetania's clone controlled by Tgurneu. Sure, she activated the blade-gem but she didn't even want to. They explained that it was necessary for their survival. I'm aware that she had planted the blade-gem years ago, but this situation is not how they wanted to use it.

I'm actually more mad at Goldof. All he had to do was communicate. I understand he had hardships and the like growing up and sometimes it's not that easy to "just speak" considering he attacked his comrades, but please. Especially when Adlet was on his own he could have said something. Adlet is looking to help everyone and I'm sure he would have heard Goldof out. But then again if he did that, he wouldn't have won the battle again the kyoma hiding Nashetania... Just reading this series makes me mad but it's too good to not read. Still a 10/10, no matter how frustrated I get


Everyone started to hate Nashetania in the first vol, and this vol didn't help her cause either.

What you pointed out is correct, but at the same time I feel that she pretty much used goldof like a tool. Although you can always see this as "trust" on Goldoff, but nashetania pretty much used him as a tool to get away from the difficult situation she faced(and she already planned for that) as she knew very well that the white knight will save the distressed princess no matter what. Even if you remember, dozzu once looked up at him with his sad eyes, as he probably felt a bit sad for him for being such a loyal knight.
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I personally don't hate Nashetania after the first volume. I think she's a far more interesting character as "Dozzu's teammate'"than as a "rokka teammate".
Also, her goal sounds logical and actually more practical on the long run than the current rokka system, so she indeed has a point. Also, her deicision is the kind of decision a ruler could make (accepting sacrifices to save the majority) and are supposed to learn to make in case of need, and she's the daughter of a ruler with peoples around her educating her as such.
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This was probably the weakest novel, by far , on one hand because it focuses on Goldov and Nachetania , and on the other because there are 2 things that bother me.

First, its the way the fiends "fooled" them into thinking they were chasing Nachetania when it reality it was just a combination of several Morphing Fiends.....the problem with that part is that it would look ridiculous animated.

Seccondly and most importantly, Fremy Solved this case by exploding the fuck out of everything, yet it did not work because the author said so......kinda dumb.

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