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Aug 26, 2013 3:13 AM

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Because it's trying too hard to be Madoka.
I do like it though, it has more potential then just that.

Aug 26, 2013 3:15 AM

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WHY DON'T PEOPLE RATE THINGS THE WAY I WANT THEM TO RATE THINGS

ihateeveryone said:
GoldenBRS said:
probably because they hate magic


YEAH YOU NAILED IT.

And uh, most people hate it because it's a ~total ripoff of Madoka~, the odd character designs, and the ~edginess.~ I think it's alright, maybe 6/10 material.

Also it's still airing so when it finishes all the people who dropped it and scored it will be gone + the score will raise when people rate it, probably.


Yeah, total ripoff of Madoka...which was actually a ripoff of several other of the SAME EXACT SHOW almost verbatim minus the time travel and guns. So uh, if that's the reason people don't like it, yet they liked Madoka - that's pretty fucking stupid, along with anyone who doesn't realize Madoka wasn't original or unique at all.
Aug 26, 2013 3:30 AM

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TallonKarrde23 said:
Yeah, total ripoff of Madoka...which was actually a ripoff of several other of the SAME EXACT SHOW almost verbatim minus the time travel and guns. So uh, if that's the reason people don't like it, yet they liked Madoka - that's pretty fucking stupid, along with anyone who doesn't realize Madoka wasn't original or unique at all.


It's almost like you're implying the magical girl genre as a whole is formulaic with the few deviations from that formula what makes each unique! (not that that makes mahou shoujos any less fun to watch)
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Aug 26, 2013 3:45 AM

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Parpy said:
TallonKarrde23 said:
Yeah, total ripoff of Madoka...which was actually a ripoff of several other of the SAME EXACT SHOW almost verbatim minus the time travel and guns. So uh, if that's the reason people don't like it, yet they liked Madoka - that's pretty fucking stupid, along with anyone who doesn't realize Madoka wasn't original or unique at all.


It's almost like you're implying the magical girl genre as a whole is formulaic with the few deviations from that formula what makes each unique! (not that that makes mahou shoujos any less fun to watch)


I'm implying that the whole 'look at this lighthearted mahou shoujo'' then 'oops lol dark and heavy' twist styled series has been done before Madoka was even a concept, which the majority of Madoka fans tend to not realize.

The person I was quoting said this show is a "ripoff of Madoka" - however, given Madoka itself is a massive ripoff of things like Utakata in terms of almost the exact same fucking story, ojamajo doremi in terms of dealing with some heavy serious shit (OD is actually much heavier and darker than Madoka at times and it's ACTUALLY for little kids!), Nanoha, and a handful of others - I'm not so sure he understands the contradiction he's making. Essentially, claiming someone is "ripping off Madoka" without understanding that Madoka ITSELF was a ripoff, is just being ignorant on the topic and thus thinking "this is the first I saw like this - so it makes it the first made".

Madoka is in no way original or unique even within the Mahou Shoujo genre, pretending any show that seems like it is ripping it off (while ignoring that it had almost nothing unique or new to it whatsoever in the genre) - rather than simply being similar or, you know, copying the same shit Madoka did - is a quite a bit of self-serving fanboy bullshit.

And to circle back around - it's no excuse to dislike another show, not when the one you're saying it's ripping off is just as guilty of that. If you're (a person, not YOU) going to claim to dislike show x for ripping off show y, then you better hate y for ripping off z - you can't defend y if you're hating on x for doing that.
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Aug 26, 2013 2:00 PM

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ihateeveryone said:
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ihateeveryone said:
Also it's still airing so when it finishes all the people who dropped it and scored it will be gone.
Eh?


If people dropped this on lets say, episode 2 and scored it a 1, then their score still counts towards the anime. However, after it finishes airing, MAL doesn't count any scores given to shows that are only.. I think it's 33% complete? Either way people who dropped it from episodes 1 -3 and rated it won't have their scores counted.

The first time i've heard of it ....
Aug 26, 2013 2:04 PM

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cause it stinks. I'll give it a 5 instead of 6.82
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Aug 27, 2013 2:24 AM
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It's because our tastes are just that shitty.

Or cause it's obviously a Madoka ripoff.
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Aug 27, 2013 2:48 AM

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Weird char designs + Madoka ripoff =/

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Aug 27, 2013 10:46 AM
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GuiltyKing said:
It's because our tastes are just that shitty.

Or cause it's obviously a Madoka ripoff.
battosai-01 said:
Weird char designs + Madoka ripoff =/

i will agree with you if you agree with me that SNK is a medicore Claymore Ripoff.
Aug 27, 2013 11:47 AM

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@SolviteSekai: Animation is better than Shaft, da fuq? For a second time i'm left wondering if there is something wrong with your eyes.
-and yes I know the difference between art and animation-

For me this show hasn't done anything above average.
Shallow lines, shallow deaths (except for maybe one...barely).
If you're going to kill characters off at least put some reasonable substance behind them.
Sorry Akari, I know what happened to your cousin still haunts you but I can't seem to care.
All I know is that she was a massive jealous bitch to you and then she died.


or in short:
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cause it stinks.
Aug 27, 2013 1:28 PM

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Okay, 6.82 is better.
Aug 27, 2013 1:34 PM

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yuukiwr said:
GuiltyKing said:
It's because our tastes are just that shitty.

Or cause it's obviously a Madoka ripoff.
battosai-01 said:
Weird char designs + Madoka ripoff =/

i will agree with you if you agree with me that SNK is a medicore Claymore Ripoff.

nope not at all.
Aug 27, 2013 2:14 PM
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With each passing episode it's getting more and more difficult to defend this show against Madoka comparisons. We have...



Most of these are just cosmetic similarities, but on the whole it's clear that this show's trying to do its own thing with its characters and themes.

The question is... where is it going? It seems like by episode 8 this show hasn't really explained anything about itself. We've started to meet the characters and have them fleshed out, but nothing is really becoming clearer.



This show's gonna have to work hard to resolve everything going on. The combination of uncertainty in where it's going and the rushed manner episode 8 was conducted in is making me skeptical. At this rate my score's probably gonna be a 6 at best.
Aug 28, 2013 3:56 PM

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Well... it is really unfair. The story is good. Not the great anime of the season, and al least, for me, and enjoyable anime.
Aug 31, 2013 5:57 PM

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All I can say is this: Aku no Hana managed to bring its score up to 7.something- that itself proves humanity's taste in anime is not always the best.

I honestly find this quite entertaining so far. I'm sure if Madoka had come out after this, it would've gotten a pretty decent score. It's just too bad it had come out after Madoka that people can't help but compare and think of it as a Madoka copy cat.

Aug 31, 2013 7:49 PM

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It started off good. But then it got into the 'EVERY CHARACTER MUST DIE' trap

Which is just ruining the show :(

I don't get off on despair like it seems a lot of people do. I'm fine with struggles, crazy struggles, but when things still end bad, then it's just a waste of time. And that's what this show is starting to feel like.

That, and a lot of wasted potential. It could have been SOOOOO good if they just laid off the "TEH DARK MAGICAL GURLZ" path -_-
Aug 31, 2013 8:13 PM
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It's too damn predictable. From the beginning of the latest episode I knew that Akari was a fake. I knew Luna would be stabbed in the stomach (no joke this is a much used cliche), and I knew she would either die or become a Daemonia herself.

Not going to be surprised if Akari somehow obtains the powers of the cards (seeing that she is the only one able to communicate with the Daemonia), becomes a goddess of sorts, and destroys singlehandedly the white-haired shape-shifting dude who will turn into a massive Walpurgisnacht-like giant. Time reverses or a new alternate reality is created and everyone is alive again. We see too much of the Homura-like cold personality that is Seira and the much oblivious Madoka aka Akari.

Sep 1, 2013 9:40 PM

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This show isn't good at all to me so many things I could point out, so I think that scores accurate
Sep 5, 2013 11:02 PM
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A few weeks ago, I would have said that this show definitely does not deserve such a low rating - it should have been probably around an 8. It was interesting, it had potential, and was not (and is not) a blatant ripoff of Madoka. But with each episode, the show just keeps getting more and more disappointing with every episode. I might actually say that 6.85 is too high for this show now.
Sep 6, 2013 10:47 PM

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People should stop reviewing this anime while comparing it to Madoka, what happened to reviewing the series by itself?
Sep 7, 2013 11:20 AM

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Let's just take this difference between this and Madoka at a very fundamental level:

Madoka is about girls who turns into Mahou Shoujo because of some selfish wish and eventually ends turning into a witch just to be killed by their own dumb peers who did the same mistake.

Gen'ei is about girls who are born with their powers and destined to kill people for one little slip in their lives that are largely amplified by some kind of curse. It's not like they choose their own fight.

I'd say this show is closer to D.Gray-man than to Madoka in many aspects, but hey, no one even remembers that D.Gray-man exists!
Sep 7, 2013 11:40 PM
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SolviteSekai said:
Why is this show being rated so unfavorably?

Is it the art? Or are people really this tasteless?


Honestly I think that the answer is too many people are tasteless. The views and ratings of the majority of people who post on MAL seem to be the opposite of all the people I have ever encountered and discussed anime with in person. Why that is I don't know. However I do know, that the anime that myself, all my friends, and my university club think is by far and away the best of this season is a 4 minute comedy short that MAL users have scored a 5.9. Considering how many people rated Maji de Otaku one of the worst scores on this site, I would take average user ratings with 2 grains of salt.

Now before users start saying maybe my friends are all terrible people with shit taste, I must say that this show is not super good, and it's plot buildup has been in zigzags, but anime is meant to be entertainment and I for one have found this show quite entertaining.

People like what they like, and dislike what they dislike, and all people deserve respect even if they don't like what you do, but I will never understand why the opinions of what feels like most posters on MAL contradict just about every anime fan I have met in real life. ;/
Sep 7, 2013 11:52 PM

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I gave it a 7 at firsf but it has clearly jumped the shark last 2 weeks, my final score is going to be around 5
Sep 8, 2013 3:04 PM

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It's getting harder to give a 5 to this show, i don't even...
Sep 9, 2013 9:35 AM

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I don't understand why people make such big deal for MAL rating...
Some anime which are most popular/best selling animes in Japan,
are less than 3 place in MAL TOP Anime.
Because some people will give it 1 just because:
- their favorite series decreased on #2, so they will troll new #1,
just to bring back their favorite series
- because series don't deserves to have such high score
- because this is too popular...
etc...

Really, even if score will be high doesn't mean,
people will start love this series, because some many people love it.
If series have low score this doesn't stop somebody who love this series,
start to hate it.

I don't look at rating to find out this is good anime or not,
I just look at stats and check out how my friends score anime,
and sometimes ask for opinion about anime,
or just check out TOP Favorites.
You can put only 5 animes to your favorite anime on your profile
so how much you must love series to decide to put in on favorites,
instead some other series.

Just because you start to lament that your favorite series have low score,
and some others anime aren't such good to have better score than this doesn't mean people will start to score it higher,
if they don't think this is such good to give him high score.

That's all from me.
Sep 9, 2013 9:40 AM

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AmarilloHomura said:

You really should take any rating in any site with a grain of salt, here in MAL for example, other than differing opinions there are people who rates anime ranging from 8 to 10, people who only gives 1's or 10's, people who rate certain shows dropping it midway but marking as watched because it counts as status to have more watched anime...

For me, I stopped updating my list years ago partly because of this, it's worthless trying to be reasonable when people are marking one show you really like as watched, giving it 1 and telling it's the worst piece of shit ever, even if they were starting at season three of said show and didn't know it.
Sep 14, 2013 1:32 PM

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Takei_Hisa said:
All I can say is this: Aku no Hana managed to bring its score up to 7.something- that itself proves humanity's taste in anime is not always the best.

I haven't seen Aku no Hana yet, but isn't it supposed to actually be a really good show, but its quality was overshadowed by the butthurt of festering Internet psychotics?

Takei_Hisa said:

I honestly find this quite entertaining so far. I'm sure if Madoka had come out after this, it would've gotten a pretty decent score. It's just too bad it had come out after Madoka that people can't help but compare and think of it as a Madoka copy cat.

In light of Madoka, it's an awful show. Without Madoka, it's just boring. But it DOES have LiSA, so...

Awww, I just checked the subforum for Fantasista Doll. I was hoping there would be a "6.31...Really? REALLY?" topic there, so I could talk about something really worth ripping into.
Sep 16, 2013 6:47 PM

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I remember was the first dark show about little girls.

Oh wait.
Sep 18, 2013 8:51 PM

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Its score is even lower now lol.

For MAL, 6.78 is pretty fucking low, but on a person's list that would be rounded to a 7, which is actually quite a good score. I doubt I'll be giving it any higher than a 5. It has awful pacing.

I really hope it is only 12 episodes like it shows on hummingbird and wikipedia.
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Sep 18, 2013 11:13 PM

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Real question is why is anyone paying attention to how the MAL community rates things
Sep 19, 2013 2:04 AM

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ermac81 said:

I really hope it is only 12 episodes like it shows on hummingbird and wikipedia.


I'm about ready for all the mediocre anime of the summer to end already, so 12 episodes would be convenient. From the looks of the latest episode, I think it's safe to assume it's still 13 though. Unless they decide to kick that terrible pacing into high gear ;).
Sep 19, 2013 10:14 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
ermac81 said:

I really hope it is only 12 episodes like it shows on hummingbird and wikipedia.


I'm about ready for all the mediocre anime of the summer to end already, so 12 episodes would be convenient. From the looks of the latest episode, I think it's safe to assume it's still 13 though. Unless they decide to kick that terrible pacing into high gear ;).


Does this show make you mad?
Sep 20, 2013 12:54 AM

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SolviteSekai said:

Does this show make you mad?


Not to mistake criticism with anger, I actually think this series has its fine moments, albeit lacking. Very lacking. The poor execution of its dramatic moments is my biggest gripe so far.
Sep 20, 2013 2:23 AM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
SolviteSekai said:

Does this show make you mad?


Not to mistake criticism with anger, I actually think this series has its fine moments, albeit lacking. Very lacking. The poor execution of its dramatic moments is my biggest gripe so far.


Spoken like a true elitist.
Sep 20, 2013 4:47 AM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
ermac81 said:

I really hope it is only 12 episodes like it shows on hummingbird and wikipedia.


I'm about ready for all the mediocre anime of the summer to end already, so 12 episodes would be convenient. From the looks of the latest episode, I think it's safe to assume it's still 13 though. Unless they decide to kick that terrible pacing into high gear ;).


There will be 14 episodes, but last one will be special.
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Sep 20, 2013 2:02 PM

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SolviteSekai said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
SolviteSekai said:

Does this show make you mad?


Not to mistake criticism with anger, I actually think this series has its fine moments, albeit lacking. Very lacking. The poor execution of its dramatic moments is my biggest gripe so far.


Spoken like a true elitist.


I must be one innovative elitist if my list's mean score is 7.7. Are you even watching this series?

@ Little: Thanks for that, may watch it later on but I just want the summer line up to end so I can get to the long awaited sequels of Fall :x.
Sep 28, 2013 8:12 PM

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probably because they hate magic

~total ripoff of Madoka~

This is a torture, like world is teasing me! I wanna see someone actually say this so I can go off on them about how this series existed before madoka.

Why must I be teasted like this?
Sep 28, 2013 8:41 PM

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HikikomoriGamer said:
ihateeveryone said:
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probably because they hate magic

~total ripoff of Madoka~

This is a torture, like world is teasing me! I wanna see someone actually say this so I can go off on them about how this series existed before madoka.

Why must I be teasted like this?


I loved Madoka Magica, but I'm not so ignorant as to call this show a rip off of it either. That's not why I dropped this show. My reason is unrelated. I hate this because the way it's paced. Just look at the way they killed off Ginka. =_=
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Sep 28, 2013 8:52 PM
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its it overall bad way that people use the Rating sytsem is why most anime from the passed three years are badly rated if thay are itsn not bad taste its bad use of the sytem
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Sep 28, 2013 9:16 PM

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I think people just saw a dark magical girl series and immediately said it's a rip off of Madoka. Well, from the posts on discussion threads, that's the vibe I'm feeling.
It's really a shame that some people rated with that kind of mindset.

I'm not gonna say that this anime was a 10/10 or anything since it did have it's ups and downs like any other series. I enjoyed it because of it's dark atmosphere.
Sep 29, 2013 5:16 AM

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HikikomoriGamer said:
ihateeveryone said:
GoldenBRS said:
probably because they hate magic

~total ripoff of Madoka~

This is a torture, like world is teasing me! I wanna see someone actually say this so I can go off on them about how this series existed before madoka.

Why must I be teasted like this?


I'm very curious to your story about it existing before Madoka so:

This is a complete ripoff from Madoka. Even though I don't think it is.
Sep 29, 2013 6:31 AM
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So, now that this series is over:

I don't see how people can like the darker moments of this show and call them serious when the execution is so bad they have little to no impact...

Mind you, some parts aren't bad. But they aren't very good either.
Sep 29, 2013 8:16 AM

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You know, Boku no Pico is rated 5.80. Some people are just too weird.
Nov 29, 2016 3:25 PM

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This series was crap, 6/10 totally pff wasted so much on this. Kinda wanted a dark ending not aa Oo everyone lives nd be happy ending :L
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