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| Murmur turning into a freak monster was retarded. I'm glad this is wrapping up. I'm intrigued for the ending has it's been half a year since ep 1 almost but, honestly, this show was much less than I thought it would be. It is by no means "great". The premise of the story allows it to be great but it really fell short. At least the animated version. Some really good parts, like Yuno's speech this episode, but far too many "milking drama" parts that didn't have any real meat to them. |
| GOD the fighting in this episode was AMAZING!!!! Face paced top notch FIGHTING! 5/5 Can't wait for the last episode. |
| Both Yuno and Yukiteru are just insane. Period. Yeah, kidnapping you is y'know, totally fine and all. She was trying to "protect" you after all. Yukiteru's logic is fucking retarded. |
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Wasabi said: Both Yuno and Yukiteru are just insane. Period. Yeah, kidnapping you is y'know, totally fine and all. She was trying to "protect" you after all. Yukiteru's logic is fucking retarded. I stopped paying attention to yukki/yuno dialogs two episodes ago, ever since he killed his friends it all turned to garbage. |
nathanr said: That's weird, until now everything indicated that both her parents were assholes...well, at least they both cursed her when she locked them in cage. Either this timeline is different or something happened within this 1 year until she killed them. Well, we were only told what her parents did to her but she was prety much insane at that point so to her it could have looked as if they were both torturing her. After all, if I adopted a child and that child would lock me in a cage (for no reason at all) and let me starve I would curse at her too. It's possible her father wasn't aware of what was going on but Yuuno didn't realise this. I hope this timeline is exactly tha same, imo it would kinda suck if it was different for no reason at all. I mean, when Yuuno got back and changed it, it made sense but since there's no one to change anything at this point, it would be stupid to just say that it's different simply because it is. It's possible that something did happen but still, he looked VERY worried, like a normal parent, not like someone potentially insane or someone about to go crazy. He was genuinely worried about his child and implied that he knew her mother was nuts but probably was too scared/loved her too much to do something about her. (Yuuno/Yukki much?) |
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| LOLOLOL at the ending scene xDDD and 1 more left! xP |
| Best episode in the whole series so far with both Yuno and Yukiteru stating their feelings and such. And the first time I've seen Yukiteru avoid DEAD END by himself. I loved the manga and the anime. It was a good run but I want to see the last episode now. |
| What is the OST when Yuno misses Yuki with the knife. |
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| Ho, ho, ho... What do we have here? Superb animation? Yum. Looks like they're finally emptying their wallets now. BRING ON THE FINALE! |
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| Just one more to go....I wonder how they will choose to end it. |
| Okay, so I wasn't the only one that noticed the dip in quality in this episode. It didn't bother me that much, and the instrumental version of Blood teller makes up for it. |
HikaruIzumi said: Yeah, it was her mother that locked her in the cage. Her father was completely unaware of it because he always overworked and never came home. While the father wasn't directly responsible (he didn't beat her, starve her or lock her in a cage) he was still indirectly responsible since it's readily apparent he knew his wife hated Yuno yet he still left them alone together even with his suspicions that she was abusing Yuno. That's not to say the dad deserved to die as well (he could change his ways and put more attention on his daughter if he's faced with reality) but I doubt the mother would have changed much. It was pretty obvious she used Yuno as an outlet to vent her anger with the world.nathanr said: That's weird, until now everything indicated that both her parents were assholes...well, at least they both cursed her when she locked them in cage. Either this timeline is different or something happened within this 1 year until she killed them. Well, we were only told what her parents did to her but she was prety much insane at that point so to her it could have looked as if they were both torturing her. After all, if I adopted a child and that child would lock me in a cage (for no reason at all) and let me starve I would curse at her too. It's possible her father wasn't aware of what was going on but Yuuno didn't realise this. I hope this timeline is exactly tha same, imo it would kinda suck if it was different for no reason at all. I mean, when Yuuno got back and changed it, it made sense but since there's no one to change anything at this point, it would be stupid to just say that it's different simply because it is. It's possible that something did happen but still, he looked VERY worried, like a normal parent, not like someone potentially insane or someone about to go crazy. He was genuinely worried about his child and implied that he knew her mother was nuts but probably was too scared/loved her too much to do something about her. (Yuuno/Yukki much?) |
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| This episode was much better than the last 2-3 episodes. I love the scary looking murmur!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was starting to lose hope in this series but this episode made it up for me. I can't wait for the final episodes. |
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| Ninth ='{ and poor Yukki! ... omg Mur-Mur is so creepy now!!! i was like Bleep! haha, i love how it showed all the characters again... i wonder what all is gonna happen XP this anime series is so amazing! I can't believe there is only one more ={ anyway great epi |
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| MURMUR IS MAD AS HELL |
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| nice episode, really am digging this, hope the last episode delivers!! BTW, hope 9th isn't dead... and i seriously don't know how the hell they're gonna resolve this. |
| Everytime Murmur made a noise I laughed. Just one more episode left. I really just want to see what the result of all of this is. However, seeing the differences in the levels of crazy of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Yuno has all been interesting. We haven't seen 3rd Yukii yet... though of course he's a fairly boring character until ish went down throughout the series. |
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| Murmur just raped 9th. So next week is the end. I hope that Yuno dies and Yuki lives. Please not double suicide or anything. |
| god damn epic episode |
| Awesome episode. Really satisfied with this episode, adapted from the manga very well. Especially that Murmur and Ninth's fight, so epic oh my gawd. Definitely reminded me of DBZ fights. xD It's a shame though, Murmur was overpowered, her seal has been released and now she's gone beserk. Those eyes though, too awesome for words. Yuno on the other hand, emotions are messing with her judgement. Yuuki had a pretty brave and heroic face at times, that was pretty cool. It was pretty sad when Yuuki was in his 'dream world' sphere and couldn't say Yuno's name and that she didn't even exist. That Wakaba scene, damn scary shit. Yuuki's in deep love with Yuno. Crazy shit indeed. xD Looking forward to next week's Happy End. Although I wouldn't mind an Anime-only ending. The manga ending... :\ |
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| You know how when you watch a zombie horror movie there's always one zombie that climbs on the ceiling and it's head turns all the way around? That's what murmur reminded me of!!! The ninth was really cool again this episode when she told the 4th to get his son help and I think I liked yuki a little bit better (or maybe because his shorts changed near the end because i hate looking at his knees!!! )when he dodged the knife. This episode reminded me of a more expensive version of dragon ball with the ninth vs murmur o.o |
BossTheKidApr 9, 2012 6:20 PM
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| They are adapting this almost exactly to the manga which makes me happy; looking forward to the final episode and the conclusion to the series |
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| This episode was full of quality, were the animators on crack or something? |
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Scud said: Why is this show so bad. Bad pacing and lots of asspulls basically |
Deus_Ex_Diabolus said: Short version of my whole point: maga Yuno is a real cold, calculating BITCH compared to anime Yuno, which portrays her simply as a dangerous, insane person. Manga Yukki is a bit more of a pussy compared to anime Yukki. Manga Murmur is simply mischievous. Anime Murmur is EVIL. QFT. I can't wait to see if they are going to make their own ending or stick with the WTF manga ending (can't decide which one would be worse, but it will have a lot of YunoxYukki drama since these people seems to love it LOL). |
AnimeTroll1088 said: ^ this and it isn't really out of place since well YUNO IS GOD........... anything is possible It's out of place. |
Deus_Ex_Diabolus said: Regarding the illusionary sphere part, the anime says it's the core of Deus that grants her those powers. In the manga, it's just her own god power that allows her to do so. By justifying she only has those godlike powers when she steals the core, the anime creates a plothole. Also, in the manga, Yuno really means it when she says she would be happy with everyone and Yukki was happy using her. In the anime, she does that to make Yukki give up on her. how does that creates a plot hole? if anything they remove the plothole about yuno not having powers during the first world. |
| I am going to be so sad when this series is over with Now how they finish it determines if this stays a 9 or moves up to a 10 for me Certainly did the adaptation justice and its been an excellent thriller Really hope I can notch it up to 10 |
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Moradon said: Actually Yuno DID throw the sphere on Yukki as shown in the anime. Most people don't know this, but when the final volume of Mirai Nikki was released in Japan, the author made some rather drastic changes to how the final chapters played out compared to what happened when it was released chapter by chapter. Most notable was a change where in the old version, Yuno made Yukki's parents fall down to their near-death, whereas in the new version the scene is cut entirely and is replaced by Yuno simply throwing the sphere on Yukki. That's not the only change either. In fact, what you see in episode 25 reflects most of the new changes that Esuno made to the final volume of Mirai Nikki, including making Yuno/Yukki more sympathetic, making Murmur more monstrous, and a couple of changes to the ending as well. The anime still embellishes a bit: the Minene/Murmur fight scene wasn't in the manga, and Wakaba didn't strip naked either, but I wanted to clarify that most of the "changes" you see in this episode were actually done by the author. I'm not sure about how the final volume plays out regarding all these other aspects (like making Yukki and Yuno more sympathetic,) but this is how the sphere scene originally happens in the manga:   See? The sphere opens, and then "swallows" him. It is not thrown on him. She doesn't claim the powers of the old core to do it either – it is implied she uses her own powers. Also, Yuno saying "you do hate me, don't you?" also refers to her throwing his parents in the floor. So we can see both scenes on that version – I'm just not showing Yuno dropping Yukki's parents here, but it is there. Honestly, I doubt the changes the author made were really that drastic compared to what we see in the anime. But I'll see if I can find this volume. |
Deus_Ex_DiabolusApr 9, 2012 10:14 PM
Deus_Ex_Diabolus said: Moradon said: Actually Yuno DID throw the sphere on Yukki as shown in the anime. Most people don't know this, but when the final volume of Mirai Nikki was released in Japan, the author made some rather drastic changes to how the final chapters played out compared to what happened when it was released chapter by chapter. Most notable was a change where in the old version, Yuno made Yukki's parents fall down to their near-death, whereas in the new version the scene is cut entirely and is replaced by Yuno simply throwing the sphere on Yukki. That's not the only change either. In fact, what you see in episode 25 reflects most of the new changes that Esuno made to the final volume of Mirai Nikki, including making Yuno/Yukki more sympathetic, making Murmur more monstrous, and a couple of changes to the ending as well. The anime still embellishes a bit: the Minene/Murmur fight scene wasn't in the manga, and Wakaba didn't strip naked either, but I wanted to clarify that most of the "changes" you see in this episode were actually done by the author. I'm not sure about how the final volume plays out regarding all these other aspects (like making Yukki and Yuno more sympathetic,) but this is how the sphere scene originally happens in the manga: See? The sphere opens, and then "swallows" him. It is not thrown on him. She doesn't claim the powers of the old core to do it either – it is implied she uses her own powers. Honestly, I doubt the changes the author made were really that drastic compared to what we see in the anime. But I'll see if I can find this volume. That picture is from the old version of volume 12. It plays out differently from the version that Esuno later published in volume 12. Here is the new version in the spoiler below. Unfortunately the new version was never translated, so I don't know how accurate the dialogue in episode 25 is, but I assume it's probably similar to whatever changes were made in the new volume 12. |
Moradon said: WOW! I had no idea. So there are 2 technical versions of Mirai Nikki itself as a manga. Do the extras have something to do with this? Deus_Ex_Diabolus said: Valkama said: Unahim said: Valkama said: Ur.. The last few episodes have been well, out of character for the show. The fight scenes are awesome to look at but they feel rather out of place. I think the director is suffering from George Lucas Syndrome. Hopefully he got his shit together for the final episode. Every time I read a comment like this (and it happens all the time on a variety of anime) I wonder: Do you realise that this anime is based off of a manga, and that the story development isn't a flight of fancy of some "director" but the actual manga storyline, that has been finalised ages ago? No, what I'm saying is the fighting scenes are out of place. I really don't care for the typical flying air battles. And if the manga did have flying air battles then they could have at least made them not take a year and a half. As far as the story goes I find it pretty good just the pacing needs some work which the director can do something about. Yes, the manga did have "flying fights," but they were a lot quicker. I was quite surprised to see all those scenes. Instead, the manga focused more on Yuno's denial (which is pratically inexistent in the anime,) and in what happens inside Yuno's illusionary sphere. Another interesting point is that, in the manga, since Yukki knows Yuno is a god, he avoids fighting and keeps evading all her attacks (he also gets many more dead ends, too.) Since he avoids fighting in the manga, Yuno traps him in the illusionary sphere – she doesn't throw the sphere on him, as she does on the anime, as if it were some sort of attack. Also, the scene with Yukki's former love doesn't happen at all in the manga. Actually Yuno DID throw the sphere on Yukki as shown in the anime. Most people don't know this, but when the final volume of Mirai Nikki was released in Japan, the author made some rather drastic changes to how the final chapters played out compared to what happened when it was released chapter by chapter. Most notable was a change where in the old version, Yuno made Yukki's parents fall down to their near-death, whereas in the new version the scene is cut entirely and is replaced by Yuno simply throwing the sphere on Yukki. That's not the only change either. In fact, what you see in episode 25 reflects most of the new changes that Esuno made to the final volume of Mirai Nikki, including making Yuno/Yukki more sympathetic, making Murmur more monstrous, and a couple of changes to the ending as well. The anime still embellishes a bit: the Minene/Murmur fight scene wasn't in the manga, and Wakaba didn't strip naked either, but I wanted to clarify that most of the "changes" you see in this episode were actually done by the author. This is really fucked up cause the author of GunnM did the same thing with Last Order. Just weird for the changes. |
Moradon said: Unfortunately the new version was never translated, so I don't know how accurate the dialogue in episode 25 is, but I assume it's probably similar to whatever changes were made in the new volume 12. Ok, now I believe you. And yes, I see a shining thing on her hand, so the plot of this new manga is indeed probably much closer to the anime. Too bad, though. Yuno being a cold, calculating "bitch" was quite surprising, and her usage of the core does introduce this dreadful plothole. Anyway, you didn't need to put this as a spoiler: this is virtually the very same scene of the anime. Do you know how is this second version of the manga called? |
Deus_Ex_DiabolusApr 9, 2012 10:27 PM
| pretty crazy episode i found it hilarious at first when 9th and Murmur were fighting because she was just spinning her around but then she turned white and crazy lol was cool seeing all the dairy holders reacting to all this madness,but i'm i the only one that kinda noticed a change in the art? 1left to go hope it ends good |
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