Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| How is this show so insanely good? I already loved it for its story and characters, now they added great animation and action scenes on top? I feel like I need to go back and lower the rating for the earlier seasons, as this is genuinely even more impressive, I could rate it 11/10 if I could. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
MadanielFL said: Really nice episode, wasn't expecting to see Pandora again. Yet it didn't show the part where Reinhard kills Theresia for the first time... I'm pretty sure the implications here are, Theresia died coz she lost her sword saint blessings during that encounter, which at the same time transferred to Reinhard. Thus all blamed him for her death. |
| Aaah, reading that side story finally paid off! Man, this episode was too good! |
| ...family business, and some closure on the bridge. Kenichiro Suehiro and his team nail the OST yet again.🙏💯 Backstory on Theresia van Astrea was beautifully-touching; and Reinhardt snapped things back, real quick.  |
| Shiiit, I'm fcking glad my man Wilhelm pulled through here, was half-expecting a double KO type fight. This was a great episode though, was really sweet seeing the pairs' relationship and the "I'll always, always love you" at the end was nice. Was hoping for some more growth from Reinhard's father Heinkel, but although he seemed to display a short moment of worry, he still seems to be struggling with a strong internal conflict. S3 is nearly finished guys, I need to see Gluttony get what he deserves XD |
| This episode got the tears flowing. |
| This episode started off with some of the most asinine dialogue & situations I've seen from this show. Up until this point, Wilhelm was steadfast & adamant about defeating the Theresia zombie/fake and never faltered. Then Heinkel pops out & makes a tiny noise, he hesitates, then suddenly becomes a babbling train wreck! "No please! No don't! Please no! Please!" as Theresia walks up to Heinkel. Ok, so he's worried she might kill him, makes sense. But then his son just stands there like a doofus (despite seeing his father fighting her) & asks "what did I do wrong?" as if this woman was his actual mother, just falls to the ground waiting to be killed, and has to be saved by Reinhard. But that's not the dumbest part, though Heinkel's reaction was pretty dumb. It was when Wilhelm goes from pleading "no please don't!" to Theresia to pleading "no please don't!" to Reinhard! Dude, you KNOW that's not actually your wife, and you were ADAMANT about stopping her, yet now that your son is almost killed & Reinhard helps save him, you start begging for him to spare her?! What?! I hate when these shows do this cliche & have these characters start acting like the clone/reanimated person/shape-shifted person (which Re:Zero also has)/ etc. suddenly makes the main characters reluctant. Like if you're fighting an enemy who you KNOW can shapeshift, then see them shapeshift into your wife, would you suddenly say "whoopsie, I must not fight you now!" especially if that enemy is still trying to kill you? NO! So why does Wilhelm go back & forth out of nowhere, especially now that Reinhard shows up & can actually put an end to this stupidity? I thought they were going to bypass this whole cliche & was really happy Wilhelm had some intelligence & a backbone, but then they reverted to the same dumb trope these shows always do in this situation. But the whiplash from "please Theresia don't kill my son!" to "please don't kill Theresia" (using "kill" loosely since everyone KNOWS she's dead) pissed me off. Why did everyone but Reinhard have to suddenly start acting stupid at the last minute? Theresia hasn't said a single word to you this entire fight, despite the fact that you've been running your mouth talking nonstop, yet you act like she's your actual living wife who can still think & act of her own free will. Begging her not to do something (which she ignored & tried to kill your son anyway) should've been the final sign that she's not listening, yet he STILL whines to Reinhard to spare her. Ok, so what happens if he did spare her? She goes on to kill your son, while you lay on the ground begging a corpse not to do it? Then she walks over to you & finishes you off? How does that help anyone? I know I'm ranting too long about this, but I HATE THIS TROPE! Characters losing all sense of intelligence in hopes of adding to the drama takes me out of a show. Oh, and the fact that Wilhelm went nearly 30+ years without saying "I love you" once to his wife, and still acted flustered when she kissed him goodbye? Wtf kind of weirdo is that? |
THE_BigDingusMar 12, 3:03 PM
| “No, you can’t have a show where everybody’s Krillin!” – Shinpachi |
| Wow, Heinkel is infuriating. This episode has a lot of flashbacks, especially so close to the end of the season, but hey it was cool to see more white whale. Pretty emotional episode I guess, we did only really just meet her but Theresia has been mentioned before. I'm not sure how she was talking in the end, but I guess it's the same as the many-armed reanimated guy from before: their personality comes back upon or near death? Good show, even if they did make Wilhelm a trope for the sake of the episode. Also how can you not say I love you for over 20 years like c'mon bro thas dumb. |
DavidTheHumanMar 12, 3:56 PM
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Reply to THE_BigDingus
This episode started off with some of the most asinine dialogue & situations I've seen from this show.
Up until this point, Wilhelm was steadfast & adamant about defeating the Theresia zombie/fake and never faltered.
Then Heinkel pops out & makes a tiny noise, he hesitates, then suddenly becomes a babbling train wreck! "No please! No don't! Please no! Please!" as Theresia walks up to Heinkel.
Ok, so he's worried she might kill him, makes sense. But then his son just stands there like a doofus (despite seeing his father fighting her) & asks "what did I do wrong?" as if this woman was his actual mother, just falls to the ground waiting to be killed, and has to be saved by Reinhard.
But that's not the dumbest part, though Heinkel's reaction was pretty dumb. It was when Wilhelm goes from pleading "no please don't!" to Theresia to pleading "no please don't!" to Reinhard!
Dude, you KNOW that's not actually your wife, and you were ADAMANT about stopping her, yet now that your son is almost killed & Reinhard helps save him, you start begging for him to spare her?! What?!
I hate when these shows do this cliche & have these characters start acting like the clone/reanimated person/shape-shifted person (which Re:Zero also has)/ etc. suddenly makes the main characters reluctant. Like if you're fighting an enemy who you KNOW can shapeshift, then see them shapeshift into your wife, would you suddenly say "whoopsie, I must not fight you now!" especially if that enemy is still trying to kill you?
NO! So why does Wilhelm go back & forth out of nowhere, especially now that Reinhard shows up & can actually put an end to this stupidity? I thought they were going to bypass this whole cliche & was really happy Wilhelm had some intelligence & a backbone, but then they reverted to the same dumb trope these shows always do in this situation.
But the whiplash from "please Theresia don't kill my son!" to "please don't kill Theresia" (using "kill" loosely since everyone KNOWS she's dead) pissed me off. Why did everyone but Reinhard have to suddenly start acting stupid at the last minute?
Theresia hasn't said a single word to you this entire fight, despite the fact that you've been running your mouth talking nonstop, yet you act like she's your actual living wife who can still think & act of her own free will. Begging her not to do something (which she ignored & tried to kill your son anyway) should've been the final sign that she's not listening, yet he STILL whines to Reinhard to spare her.
Ok, so what happens if he did spare her? She goes on to kill your son, while you lay on the ground begging a corpse not to do it? Then she walks over to you & finishes you off? How does that help anyone?
I know I'm ranting too long about this, but I HATE THIS TROPE! Characters losing all sense of intelligence in hopes of adding to the drama takes me out of a show.
Oh, and the fact that Wilhelm went nearly 30+ years without saying "I love you" once to his wife, and still acted flustered when she kissed him goodbye? Wtf kind of weirdo is that?
Up until this point, Wilhelm was steadfast & adamant about defeating the Theresia zombie/fake and never faltered.
Then Heinkel pops out & makes a tiny noise, he hesitates, then suddenly becomes a babbling train wreck! "No please! No don't! Please no! Please!" as Theresia walks up to Heinkel.
Ok, so he's worried she might kill him, makes sense. But then his son just stands there like a doofus (despite seeing his father fighting her) & asks "what did I do wrong?" as if this woman was his actual mother, just falls to the ground waiting to be killed, and has to be saved by Reinhard.
But that's not the dumbest part, though Heinkel's reaction was pretty dumb. It was when Wilhelm goes from pleading "no please don't!" to Theresia to pleading "no please don't!" to Reinhard!
Dude, you KNOW that's not actually your wife, and you were ADAMANT about stopping her, yet now that your son is almost killed & Reinhard helps save him, you start begging for him to spare her?! What?!
I hate when these shows do this cliche & have these characters start acting like the clone/reanimated person/shape-shifted person (which Re:Zero also has)/ etc. suddenly makes the main characters reluctant. Like if you're fighting an enemy who you KNOW can shapeshift, then see them shapeshift into your wife, would you suddenly say "whoopsie, I must not fight you now!" especially if that enemy is still trying to kill you?
NO! So why does Wilhelm go back & forth out of nowhere, especially now that Reinhard shows up & can actually put an end to this stupidity? I thought they were going to bypass this whole cliche & was really happy Wilhelm had some intelligence & a backbone, but then they reverted to the same dumb trope these shows always do in this situation.
But the whiplash from "please Theresia don't kill my son!" to "please don't kill Theresia" (using "kill" loosely since everyone KNOWS she's dead) pissed me off. Why did everyone but Reinhard have to suddenly start acting stupid at the last minute?
Theresia hasn't said a single word to you this entire fight, despite the fact that you've been running your mouth talking nonstop, yet you act like she's your actual living wife who can still think & act of her own free will. Begging her not to do something (which she ignored & tried to kill your son anyway) should've been the final sign that she's not listening, yet he STILL whines to Reinhard to spare her.
Ok, so what happens if he did spare her? She goes on to kill your son, while you lay on the ground begging a corpse not to do it? Then she walks over to you & finishes you off? How does that help anyone?
I know I'm ranting too long about this, but I HATE THIS TROPE! Characters losing all sense of intelligence in hopes of adding to the drama takes me out of a show.
Oh, and the fact that Wilhelm went nearly 30+ years without saying "I love you" once to his wife, and still acted flustered when she kissed him goodbye? Wtf kind of weirdo is that?
@THE_BigDingus
Logically I think you're absolutely right and at the end Wilhelm even admitted he was wrong and Reinhard was right. Still, on the emotional side of things I can't really find flaws in his train of thoughts and reactions. And Reinhard is kinda cold man. |
newluminousMar 12, 4:55 PM
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@THE_BigDingus
Agreed.
I have no idea why so many people are saying this garbage was peak. Not saying "I love you" once to your wife after being married for decades? Utterly asinine. I didn't feel shit when they finally said it to each other because of how stupid the set up was. Also, you cannot make me care for a character I have basically never met with 15 minutes of flashbacks all crammed into the episode.
Agreed.
I have no idea why so many people are saying this garbage was peak. Not saying "I love you" once to your wife after being married for decades? Utterly asinine. I didn't feel shit when they finally said it to each other because of how stupid the set up was. Also, you cannot make me care for a character I have basically never met with 15 minutes of flashbacks all crammed into the episode.
| @Seansy Yeah it's quite hard to believe. Coincidentally I recently watched a video not long ago about the fact that Japanese people irl rarely directly express love to their family members. Maybe this is the case taken to the extreme lol. |
| I didn't really want this backstory about Wilhelm and this generic looking red-haired chick... the pacing was not good either. A whole episode flashback when this thing had such great momentum... no thanks Wilhelm is an alright character, but Theresia is too generic. She's the annoying blushing love interest you see in every isekai (and anywhere else) Least favorite episode, felt like it was made out of obligation. |
SuperAdventureMar 12, 4:58 PM
| last 2 episodes have been surprisingly not too bad compared to the rest of this season. |
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Reply to THE_BigDingus
This episode started off with some of the most asinine dialogue & situations I've seen from this show.
Up until this point, Wilhelm was steadfast & adamant about defeating the Theresia zombie/fake and never faltered.
Then Heinkel pops out & makes a tiny noise, he hesitates, then suddenly becomes a babbling train wreck! "No please! No don't! Please no! Please!" as Theresia walks up to Heinkel.
Ok, so he's worried she might kill him, makes sense. But then his son just stands there like a doofus (despite seeing his father fighting her) & asks "what did I do wrong?" as if this woman was his actual mother, just falls to the ground waiting to be killed, and has to be saved by Reinhard.
But that's not the dumbest part, though Heinkel's reaction was pretty dumb. It was when Wilhelm goes from pleading "no please don't!" to Theresia to pleading "no please don't!" to Reinhard!
Dude, you KNOW that's not actually your wife, and you were ADAMANT about stopping her, yet now that your son is almost killed & Reinhard helps save him, you start begging for him to spare her?! What?!
I hate when these shows do this cliche & have these characters start acting like the clone/reanimated person/shape-shifted person (which Re:Zero also has)/ etc. suddenly makes the main characters reluctant. Like if you're fighting an enemy who you KNOW can shapeshift, then see them shapeshift into your wife, would you suddenly say "whoopsie, I must not fight you now!" especially if that enemy is still trying to kill you?
NO! So why does Wilhelm go back & forth out of nowhere, especially now that Reinhard shows up & can actually put an end to this stupidity? I thought they were going to bypass this whole cliche & was really happy Wilhelm had some intelligence & a backbone, but then they reverted to the same dumb trope these shows always do in this situation.
But the whiplash from "please Theresia don't kill my son!" to "please don't kill Theresia" (using "kill" loosely since everyone KNOWS she's dead) pissed me off. Why did everyone but Reinhard have to suddenly start acting stupid at the last minute?
Theresia hasn't said a single word to you this entire fight, despite the fact that you've been running your mouth talking nonstop, yet you act like she's your actual living wife who can still think & act of her own free will. Begging her not to do something (which she ignored & tried to kill your son anyway) should've been the final sign that she's not listening, yet he STILL whines to Reinhard to spare her.
Ok, so what happens if he did spare her? She goes on to kill your son, while you lay on the ground begging a corpse not to do it? Then she walks over to you & finishes you off? How does that help anyone?
I know I'm ranting too long about this, but I HATE THIS TROPE! Characters losing all sense of intelligence in hopes of adding to the drama takes me out of a show.
Oh, and the fact that Wilhelm went nearly 30+ years without saying "I love you" once to his wife, and still acted flustered when she kissed him goodbye? Wtf kind of weirdo is that?
Up until this point, Wilhelm was steadfast & adamant about defeating the Theresia zombie/fake and never faltered.
Then Heinkel pops out & makes a tiny noise, he hesitates, then suddenly becomes a babbling train wreck! "No please! No don't! Please no! Please!" as Theresia walks up to Heinkel.
Ok, so he's worried she might kill him, makes sense. But then his son just stands there like a doofus (despite seeing his father fighting her) & asks "what did I do wrong?" as if this woman was his actual mother, just falls to the ground waiting to be killed, and has to be saved by Reinhard.
But that's not the dumbest part, though Heinkel's reaction was pretty dumb. It was when Wilhelm goes from pleading "no please don't!" to Theresia to pleading "no please don't!" to Reinhard!
Dude, you KNOW that's not actually your wife, and you were ADAMANT about stopping her, yet now that your son is almost killed & Reinhard helps save him, you start begging for him to spare her?! What?!
I hate when these shows do this cliche & have these characters start acting like the clone/reanimated person/shape-shifted person (which Re:Zero also has)/ etc. suddenly makes the main characters reluctant. Like if you're fighting an enemy who you KNOW can shapeshift, then see them shapeshift into your wife, would you suddenly say "whoopsie, I must not fight you now!" especially if that enemy is still trying to kill you?
NO! So why does Wilhelm go back & forth out of nowhere, especially now that Reinhard shows up & can actually put an end to this stupidity? I thought they were going to bypass this whole cliche & was really happy Wilhelm had some intelligence & a backbone, but then they reverted to the same dumb trope these shows always do in this situation.
But the whiplash from "please Theresia don't kill my son!" to "please don't kill Theresia" (using "kill" loosely since everyone KNOWS she's dead) pissed me off. Why did everyone but Reinhard have to suddenly start acting stupid at the last minute?
Theresia hasn't said a single word to you this entire fight, despite the fact that you've been running your mouth talking nonstop, yet you act like she's your actual living wife who can still think & act of her own free will. Begging her not to do something (which she ignored & tried to kill your son anyway) should've been the final sign that she's not listening, yet he STILL whines to Reinhard to spare her.
Ok, so what happens if he did spare her? She goes on to kill your son, while you lay on the ground begging a corpse not to do it? Then she walks over to you & finishes you off? How does that help anyone?
I know I'm ranting too long about this, but I HATE THIS TROPE! Characters losing all sense of intelligence in hopes of adding to the drama takes me out of a show.
Oh, and the fact that Wilhelm went nearly 30+ years without saying "I love you" once to his wife, and still acted flustered when she kissed him goodbye? Wtf kind of weirdo is that?
THE_BigDingus said: I also think this kind of writting are one of the most cheapest form of writing in any series. That's why I was hoping that atleast re zero should not put too much focus on it, but here we go again.This episode started off with some of the most asinine dialogue & situations I've seen from this show. Up until this point, Wilhelm was steadfast & adamant about defeating the Theresia zombie/fake and never faltered. Then Heinkel pops out & makes a tiny noise, he hesitates, then suddenly becomes a babbling train wreck! "No please! No don't! Please no! Please!" as Theresia walks up to Heinkel. Ok, so he's worried she might kill him, makes sense. But then his son just stands there like a doofus (despite seeing his father fighting her) & asks "what did I do wrong?" as if this woman was his actual mother, just falls to the ground waiting to be killed, and has to be saved by Reinhard. But that's not the dumbest part, though Heinkel's reaction was pretty dumb. It was when Wilhelm goes from pleading "no please don't!" to Theresia to pleading "no please don't!" to Reinhard! Dude, you KNOW that's not actually your wife, and you were ADAMANT about stopping her, yet now that your son is almost killed & Reinhard helps save him, you start begging for him to spare her?! What?! I hate when these shows do this cliche & have these characters start acting like the clone/reanimated person/shape-shifted person (which Re:Zero also has)/ etc. suddenly makes the main characters reluctant. Like if you're fighting an enemy who you KNOW can shapeshift, then see them shapeshift into your wife, would you suddenly say "whoopsie, I must not fight you now!" especially if that enemy is still trying to kill you? NO! So why does Wilhelm go back & forth out of nowhere, especially now that Reinhard shows up & can actually put an end to this stupidity? I thought they were going to bypass this whole cliche & was really happy Wilhelm had some intelligence & a backbone, but then they reverted to the same dumb trope these shows always do in this situation. But the whiplash from "please Theresia don't kill my son!" to "please don't kill Theresia" (using "kill" loosely since everyone KNOWS she's dead) pissed me off. Why did everyone but Reinhard have to suddenly start acting stupid at the last minute? Theresia hasn't said a single word to you this entire fight, despite the fact that you've been running your mouth talking nonstop, yet you act like she's your actual living wife who can still think & act of her own free will. Begging her not to do something (which she ignored & tried to kill your son anyway) should've been the final sign that she's not listening, yet he STILL whines to Reinhard to spare her. Ok, so what happens if he did spare her? She goes on to kill your son, while you lay on the ground begging a corpse not to do it? Then she walks over to you & finishes you off? How does that help anyone? I know I'm ranting too long about this, but I HATE THIS TROPE! Characters losing all sense of intelligence in hopes of adding to the drama takes me out of a show. Oh, and the fact that Wilhelm went nearly 30+ years without saying "I love you" once to his wife, and still acted flustered when she kissed him goodbye? Wtf kind of weirdo is that? |
My doctor has always told me to smoke. He even explains himself: “Smoke, my friend. Otherwise someone else will smoke in your place.” |
| This is one of my favorite episodes of ReZero and probably the best of this season! PEAK!! |
| Man, I felt Reinhard draw that sword in my soul |
| Censorship is vandalism. |
| I'm lost for words. The Van Astrea family had some tragic stories, which are hard to tell. |
VickyAlexYesterday, 6:17 AM
| hm so next ep lye and partial roy and then last ep al vs capella we wont have much space for the ending of the arc... especially when we have so much of the ending to cover and s3 2nd half is now DOA... should have cut threasa shit anwyays sincce they cut out mosto f the pandora stuff literally imagine when you cant even be bothered to adapt their entire side story of 3-4 vols and expect us to care as much as jps about it |
| reiwa weebs will unironically tell u they want a remake or sequel but when they get it ,its suddenly souless and a cashgrab cause they dont like the thing anymore and cant fathom they grew out of it and must mean the show somehow became bad |
| Peak:Zero. Reinhard drawing his sword was probably the most tense thing I’ve seen in a while… until Pandora showed up |
under”Mebius” is my salvation  |
| It's surprising that we still have so many negative reviews despite so many positive comments here and a beautifully animated and directed anime. |
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| Finally a good episode after cringey episode one after another, lack of Subaru and the archbishops really helped in enjoying the episode :) I've been always curious with Wilhelm and Theresia history since season 1, glad to finally be able to watch it...this is so far the best S3 episode |
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@RobertBobert perks of having too many haters.
Re:zero might be the only show where drop rate and retention rate doesn't make sense.
Re:zero might be the only show where drop rate and retention rate doesn't make sense.
| @Cormac07 I just don't understand why watch a show and follow it if you hate it. |
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| theresia's backstory, so emotional ! amazing moments in this episode ! peak ! |
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@RobertBobert for something as hated as rezero with 200+ negative reviews for s1, one would expect only the core fans to continue till now(Almost 9 years for oldest watchers).
Crazy how solo leveling is the only show generating more discussions than re zero here.
Following 1 season is understandable but 66 episodes?
Crazy how solo leveling is the only show generating more discussions than re zero here.
Following 1 season is understandable but 66 episodes?
| @Cormac07 I'm completely unfamiliar with the plot and fandom of Solo Leveling. But I've seen haters create threads just to bait fans. |
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| Loved the backstory of Theresia. I don't understand Heinkel either. 2 more episodes to go.. |
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