Zenshuu. Episode 9 Discussion

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Mar 3, 6:17 AM

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MenchiK1

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The movie she is trapped in must be the worst movie ever made. Everyone dies, the hero is really the bad guy, and the world ends. What was the point of it?
And now she can't change anything and heroes are dying again, this better have one hell of a twist ending.

Mar 3, 7:49 AM

#52

magatetus

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🥺QJ, at first I thought this was going to be a typical recap episode, now I kind of wish it was.

Mar 3, 8:17 AM

#53

NirvashX1

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woahh this is so tragic !!

not gonna lie !! this show is surprisingly so good

Mar 3, 9:06 AM

#54

VickyAlex

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NOOOO

They killed QJ.

I guess Natsuko will fall into despair from this episode.

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Mar 3, 9:13 AM

#55

LordCrueltyV

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MenchiK1 said:
Everyone dies, the hero is really the bad guy, and the world ends. What was the point of it?

Do you believe that existence has a Point?

Lord Cruelty V
"But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be"

Mar 3, 10:29 AM

#56

Kai200X

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I was so sure with Natsuko around, it will be no more death... how wrong I am

RIP QJ, you will be missed

Mar 3, 11:03 AM

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Reply to LordCrueltyV

MenchiK1 said:
Everyone dies, the hero is really the bad guy, and the world ends. What was the point of it?

Do you believe that existence has a Point?

@LordCrueltyV

It was an anime movie not a phiisophical lesson.

Mar 3, 12:43 PM

#58

landofthekwt

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The one of 9 who does not die in Perishing goes out in a blaze of self sacrificing glory

Mar 3, 1:43 PM

#59

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Finally Luke told Natsuko that he likes her, but the situation is very bizarre.

Something that I don’t like in this anime is that the scene of Natsuko (that effect from almost the end of episode) is repeating every time.

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Mar 3, 3:37 PM

#60

AddaeAkono

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It was cute hearing Luke's inner thoughts about his feelings for Natsuko and I should have known that QJ's conversation about the Tale of Perishing with Natsuko was going to be a death flag especially with him surviving the original movie. What we are seeing is a bit of a role reversal between Luke and Natsuko in which Natsuko is going to be the one going through the emotional turmoil while Luke provides emotional support. Does this mean that the Natsuko's ending to Tale of Perishing will be darker than the original? We will see with three episodes left.

RIP QJ

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Mar 3, 6:37 PM

#61

dragozeroone

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Somebody actually fucking dies. The show isn't afraid to take risks, and it's subverting my expectations with each episode as the story gets even better and better.

Mar 3, 7:01 PM

#62

fullmetalgirl21

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Damn, that was a great episode. Prior to this one, I didn't think I cared about QJ at all. I was wrong. This episode hit me in the feels. This show's score is low enough to call it underrated, I think. I've bumped my score up a point. Hoping it can keep up the momentum it has built the last few episodes. I've been fully into this once Natsuko actually became likeable.

Also, the way this episode finished was pretty ominous. It feels like the story is playing out like before, but with the key difference that Natsuko and Luke have swapped roles. Natsuko going into despair over QJ's death for not being able to draw. It feels like she is on the path to becoming the ultimate void in place of Luke. Another ominous relation is the voids reproducing her drawings. I don't know how it will go, but that is what it felt like to me.

One more note...goddamn A Tale of Perishing is depressing, lol. What a way to end a movie. I hope in the future we get an OVA, special or movie of A Tale of Perishing. That would be pretty dope.

My thoughts exactly on both QJ and The Tale of Pershing's ending.
It does look like Natsuko's on the path to take Like's place as the ultimate void.

I'm curious about the world's makeup still. is it basically just the movie where the timeline is set in stone or is it somehow its own world after the movie wrote it into being Re:Creator's style?

Mar 3, 7:31 PM

#63

Jeremygrandison

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QT, WHYYYY! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Mar 3, 9:37 PM

#64

Camoboi1

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R.I.P OJ

He was one of my favorites giving advice and helping all the characters out with their problems. We also now see that her actions are consequences and she has to deal with them. It makes me wonder even more what the ending will be!!

Mar 4, 6:45 AM

#65

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NOOOOOOOOO QJ!!!!!!

I actually liked him a lot man.

Crazy episode.. I'm really glad I started this anime honestly. I almost didn't start it at all but im so glad.
Natsuko is starting to like Luke but honestly, I feel like this can only end badly... If she is replacing Justice in love... then what else she is she going to replace her with... I dread to think about that one scene... please don't come to fruition ;(.

Mar 4, 6:47 AM

#66

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QJ is a hero!
He was supposed to be the only one left alive at the end of the movie but decided to sacrifice himself. Natsuko went panic mode but the paper she threw away was still effective at blocking missiles. Maybe she doesn't necessarily need to draw a masterpiece and that's the point?
Things are getting desperate. I wonder if the bird/author is the one making voids stronger by copying Natsuko. She's always watching after all.

@Sigmar-Unberogen Ohhh interesting theory.. maybe she also has the power to draw things into existence? or something similar.. I forget what her power actually is now. Either way, very plausible that its all her doing. It makes sense that she would learn from her and copy her work.

Mar 4, 6:49 AM

#67

Fenyy

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Just when I get an emotional attachment to a character, they kill him off 💀
May your soul be honored eternally, QJ 🙏

nah for real ahaa.. this episode after that heart to heart conversation, I was like to myself.. yeah I actually like this character a lot.. and then he goes and dies ;(((( fml @Okite

Mar 4, 12:20 PM

#68

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How will Natsuko fight off voids now, she has to start thinking of how to counter her own creations or well now what could the general theme be about moving forward..?

the Voids used to be easy to counter but now what happens if they start outleveling you faster than you can draw?

Mar 4, 4:00 PM

#69

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QJ was made to be useless in the original tale but ending up being the last one surviving. I like how that switched up, I wish I could binge more of Zenshuu.

Mar 4, 11:34 PM

#70

Crowfinger

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QJ was kind of cute this eoisode

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Mar 5, 4:44 PM

#71

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If the story will end as originally envisioned albeit through a different route, what's the point of watching this?

I am under the impression that Natsuko is supposed to redo everything so the story has a happy ending.

Mar 5, 5:09 PM

#72

Avarion

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This show continues to surprise me in the most pleasant ways.

Mar 5, 5:16 PM

#73

LordCrueltyV

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patkarunungan said:
I am under the impression that Natsuko is supposed to redo everything so the story has a happy ending.

I am expecting Natsuko to learn many new experiences: adventure, friendship, companionship, joy, doubt, pity, love, loss, grief, etc. In short, to become at least human enough to write about human experience.

Lord Cruelty V
"But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be"

Mar 5, 5:37 PM

#74

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patkarunungan said:
I am under the impression that Natsuko is supposed to redo everything so the story has a happy ending.

@LordCrueltyV I hope that's the case, and there's still a glimmer of hope that the director is wrong. I'm also hoping that this is just a dream that will enable her to write the love story she was unable to do in episode 1.

Mar 5, 6:29 PM

#75

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Another AMAZING episode!!! This one got me a bit teary eyed, QJ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Such a valiant sacrifice from QJ knowing the huge burden that Natsuko was feeling. He analyzed the situation and figured this was the best thing he could do to keep all of this own friends safe.

That said, whats very interesting is in the original movie, QJ was the only one who made it to the end of the movie before Luke destroyed the world; but now, QJ is the first, out of the remaining heroes, that died. Does this mean that his sacrifice can help Natsuko change the future and make it a happy ending? I HOPE SO!!! Rest In Peace QJ🙏

Overall, very good episode and looking forward to the next one!

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Mar 6, 8:14 AM

#76

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QJ a real one, RIP little guy

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Mar 7, 8:50 AM

#77

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Bro, they killed him in the same episode in which he finally contributed something to the story XDDDDDD

Mar 7, 4:53 PM

#78

sethmosrite

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This is the first episode I’ve loved - totally invested now

Mar 7, 10:27 PM

#79

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The ending of the original story may be more tragic, but this episode alone made me tear up. I hope Natsuko changes the fate of the world and the director's prophecy.

Yesterday, 2:10 PM

#80

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Nov 2022

AH WHAT THE SHUCKS BUSTER YOU CANT JSUT, that was so sad. WTF don't fall into despair bbg, theres a way outta this I HOPE.

Yesterday, 10:16 PM

#81

cooldogmom

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Nahh...not the stereotypical black man in anime 😭

He's truly down bad for Natsuko and its so damn cute. I love everything he does for Natsuko. Luke genuinely loves Natsuko, its so real and pure. I wish more anime had this type of love in it. He's truly anime's best boy of all time.

Rip our boy, QJ. That shit hurted.

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