Yoru no Kurage wa Oyogenai Episode 7 Discussion

@n4ytcg It's a joke. No need to take it seriously

@HajimeNozomiUwU It's fucking bizarre and they put way too much emphasis on plastic surgery and tit size. Feels totally out of place. Kiui is supposed to be some kind of introvert and then she's like "Oh wow whip 'em out for me"

@HajimeNozomiUwU It's fucking bizarre and they put way too much emphasis on plastic surgery and tit size. Feels totally out of place. Kiui is supposed to be some kind of introvert and then she's like "Oh wow whip 'em out for me"

@Neneaux Yes, I felt the same way, she seemed to me too totally out of place and an unnecessary addition until after finishing the episode I realised that this show has had so many little psychological insights related to the girls figuring themselves out (like Mei realising how important is her competitiveness in her motivation) and otherwise so well directed and written that it is kinda hard to imagine that they would just force a character into the story just for the sake of boobs touching and size comparing. There is a scene in the bath where we could see she had something like a burn mark on her back or more like the remains of a removed tattoo that had the shape of a rose. That made me wonder what kind of self searching path did she go through in that past that had made her have a tattoo then later have it removed, and then again have body plastic surgeries she is so proud of and showy now. What did she cover up with those modifications, why did she hide behind them? BTW both of the girls, but in particular the characters of Watase and Kano developed so much in this one episode that it is hard to believe how much they are able to compress into so little a time - so much so that it made me compare this show to the anime I was watching before this (Whispering You a Love Song) the characters and the development of which seemed in comparison extremely bland and shallow.

@Ishitateso I would guess what Kiui sees in Koharu is someone who isn't afraid to be seen as "not normal", even to near-strangers (assuming cosmetic surgery is considered "not normal"). Plus they seem to have some common interests. (Aside, if "Maya no Uta" was "Saya no Uta", what was "Fuisora"? I haven't followed VNs for a long time.)

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Should driver schools use such huge and potent motorbikes to teach teens?
I can't believe they gave a license to Kano! Surprised that she didn't killed herself and Mahiro in the end.
But what to even say about this episode...


That character, Koharu, talks jokingly if she isn't "committing a crime" with Kano and Kiwi. But talking seriously, isn't she clearly an adult flirting and trying to put her hands on a minor?
No problem with all that talk about boobs per si, really no problem, let the girls talk about their bodies, but I just got the feeling that Koharu was acting like "a pervert", trying to get the girls attention and trust. In the end she even manages to find where Kiwi lives.
Like some say, "a bit problematic".

I'm not someone "qualified" to discuss these matters, like I said I'm not sure what to say about this episode, but something caught my attention while watching. I reminded that someone more brilliant minds had theorized Kiwi could be a "trans coded character". Maybe they're right?
I remind someone pointing that Kiwi got specially upset when a man trying to hit on her after noticing her bust, and that her virtual character is androgynous and flat. Now it seems confirmed that she hides her bust and by seemingly accepting Koharu's advances it seems to confirm that at least she may be gay.

Anyway, the series really improved a lot after it stopped with the flashbacks and things happen from the interacting inside the episodes.
Despite they having forgotten Kano's writers block...


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I need to take this series more seriously, after the bad impression the first episodes gave me, because it's becoming a bit "too deep for me". Unfortunately breasts are distracting, as they usually are, but this episode and dialogue as full of subtext and symbolism about "impostor syndrome" and authenticity, right?

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Should driver schools use such huge and potent motorbikes to teach teens?
I can't believe they gave a license to Kano! Surprised that she didn't killed herself and Mahiro in the end.
But what to even say about this episode...


That character, Koharu, talks jokingly if she isn't "committing a crime" with Kano and Kiwi. But talking seriously, isn't she clearly an adult flirting and trying to put her hands on a minor?
No problem with all that talk about boobs per si, really no problem, let the girls talk about their bodies, but I just got the feeling that Koharu was acting like "a pervert", trying to get the girls attention and trust. In the end she even manages to find where Kiwi lives.
Like some say, "a bit problematic".

I'm not someone "qualified" to discuss these matters, like I said I'm not sure what to say about this episode, but something caught my attention while watching. I reminded that someone more brilliant minds had theorized Kiwi could be a "trans coded character". Maybe they're right?
I remind someone pointing that Kiwi got specially upset when a man trying to hit on her after noticing her bust, and that her virtual character is androgynous and flat. Now it seems confirmed that she hides her bust and by seemingly accepting Koharu's advances it seems to confirm that at least she may be gay.

Anyway, the series really improved a lot after it stopped with the flashbacks and things happen from the interacting inside the episodes.
Despite they having forgotten Kano's writers block...


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I need to take this series more seriously, after the bad impression the first episodes gave me, because it's becoming a bit "too deep for me". Unfortunately breasts are distracting, as they usually are, but this episode and dialogue as full of subtext and symbolism about "impostor syndrome" and authenticity, right?

@PaninaManina For me, that part of Koharu has felt very cloudy and unpleasant. Clearly she is an adult flirting especially with Kiui. The curious thing is that Koharu appears in the opening, so He is a character for the plot. Watching kiui give koharu his phone number and be like "asking her out" has given me chills. If this turns into some romantic element I'll drop the series immediately. That being said, I cannot approve this chapter.

@Hormigo Oh, it's true, Koharu appears in the OP (and other characters too). O hope she appears more and if this anime really does have yuri romance that her relationship with Kiwi develops and even becomes official.

Why would you drop it if it happens?
Koharu appears to be an adult, but how old is she actually? With anime characters is hard to tell. She may be younger than you think and Kiwi and the other girls are older than people usually remember. All four are a few months away from being 18 years, so even if Koharu is an adult the age gap is probably small and normal, and if a romance between the two happen would be consensual. Koharu made very clear what she wants so she isn't tricking Kiwi into anything.

hmm I thought it was maybe a tattoo she got removed but that also makes sense

I wouldn't jump with conclusion with Koharu, there must a reason they are hiding her surname.

For all we know she might even be a producer, trying to recruit Kiui.

@TiagoCosta Now producers use their tits as a recruitment tool? kidding aside, the first time he approaches kiui he doesn't know who he is or what he does kiui She tells him on the train who she is, the funny thing is that Koharu knows where Kiui lives, without her having told him before. something very strange

@Hormigo off screen conversation, it's a normal topic to talk about on small talk stuff.

She literally said ''you said you live in ogikubo?''. She told her.

@TiagoCosta It's true, I didn't read the subtitles well, but what is clear is that Kiui reveals his identity to Koharu on the train, therefore the first time he approached Kiui he didn't know who he was, and He doesn't know her.Kiui has decided to be a teacher, it wouldn't make sense for the story for a producer to approach her, although who knows. Koharu has left me very intrigued, I don't know what role he will continue in the story , a simple friend? any love interest? Who knows, what is known is that it appears in the opening, therefore it will appear more

damn that Kohaku woman was creeeeeepy and predatory, and I'm worried for Kiui now, but glad she set the boundary of online-only

It seems like Kano & Mahiro have a really high likelihood of becoming a couple, but also I'm scared it's gonna just be bait in the end. Either way - friends or couple, I really enjoy their vibe together and how lovey-dovey, caring, and supportive they are with each other

the motorcycle thing was otherwise pretty cool

@akatsukinoluna
mehh, you are even more creepy than her.


and some ppl here are trying to lecture this episode with their moral code.
pfff!

@DX_impulse There is no ethical or moral sermon, it is simply common sense. And my common sense makes me see that an adult acting that way with two minors is a bit shady to say the least. greetings

Is it my imagination or is this show practically identical (plot wise) to Girls Band Cry

Agreed to the max.

I suppose, unfortunately, that I shouldn't be, given the way some folks (seemingly increasingly) are nowadays, but I was honestly shocked when coming into this episode discussion thread topic and seeing so many comments making an issue out of those scenes involving the Koharu character. It's truthfully something which didn't even remotely cross my mind in the slightest degree while watching it that this was somehow something people would find (or rather, invent) a problem with.

These are mid-teenagers talking and hanging out with someone going to the same school/training course and talking about continuing to hang out in the future due to shared interests and personalities which get on, not 4 year-olds being lured into a homeless stalker's rusty derelict white van with candy. First of all, something like romance and what age should be set for something like that and why or all the nuances and complications of that is something which could be discussed and debated. But this didn't even come across as romantic or sexual to me anyway. It's bad enough and inane and silly when people do that even with opposite sex individuals. Here both are even females and most of the population is ultimately heterosexual. There is nothing which says Kiui is even gay (or bisexual) or that the Koharu character is or that they're even pursuing some intimate relationship along those lines. It's literally people striking up conversation and bonding with those they have something in common with and some people here want to turn that into something ugly, scary, bad, or wrong because they're of different ages?

So it would have been better for Koharu to treat her with cold indifference, someone whose life she could have a positive impact upon and vice versa, and people should always self-segregate into little bubbles based solely on when they were born? Oh no, can't talk to or go out for coffee or play video games together because one is 15 or 16 or whatever and the other one is, I assume, somewhere in her 20s. Sounds like a recipe for an environment of unjustified terror and paranoia, which is what this is.

Talk about a bunch of moral panic neo-Puritans. Is this something coming mainly from the second half of Gen Z? Because it seems something so extreme, random, and illogical that it has to be some uniquely post-2010 North American BS.

@WatchTillTandava It is not moral ground, anyone who has seen a lot of anime has seen scenes like this, the question would be, did this anime need such an explicit fanservice scene? in my opinion and that of Others don't, it seemed a little shady to me because I didn't expect it in an anime like that. That being said, it is fine to debate in these types of forums, that is what they are for. For example, you say "there is nothing that says That Kiui is gay and In this same forum I read a comment where have commented that Kiui is gay. What are we left with? , Others that this anime is Yuri and others that it is simply a Yuri bait, simply Disparities of opinions. Greetings

Although, between this, Shuumatsu Train Doko e Iku?, Astro Note, and Girls Band Cry, surprisingly a fair amount and good ones this season.