Heion Sedai no Idaten-tachi Episode 2 Discussion

RayReynolds said:
Another one of those episodes that confuses me how it was made. They clearly understood that an obnoxious infodump is excessive and stupid. They did the whole fast-forward bit. But then they just went ahead and surrounded it on all sides with more obnoxious infodumps. And then there was the bit where it kept going "Hey, don't you wonder how this setting works? WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU!" Over and over again. Which was, again, immediately followed by a power point presentation of a different set of random factoids, in service of nothing but filling out the appendix. Eventually, we get to a literal boardroom meeting of the antagonists, who go "Hey, we're the antagonists," have all their nameplates tossed up in a montage, and then the episode ends.

Great use of twenty minutes, guys. No plot. No real action. No story. No character development. Just a nonstop barrage of factoids about the setting sloughed out like refuse into the street, half of which were "Gee, that sure is weird and unexplained." You clearly understood that pulling this crap was bad, but you went ahead and did it anyway, at exhausting length.

RayReynolds said:
Another one of those episodes that confuses me how it was made. They clearly understood that an obnoxious infodump is excessive and stupid. They did the whole fast-forward bit. But then they just went ahead and surrounded it on all sides with more obnoxious infodumps. And then there was the bit where it kept going "Hey, don't you wonder how this setting works? WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU!" Over and over again. Which was, again, immediately followed by a power point presentation of a different set of random factoids, in service of nothing but filling out the appendix. Eventually, we get to a literal boardroom meeting of the antagonists, who go "Hey, we're the antagonists," have all their nameplates tossed up in a montage, and then the episode ends.

Great use of twenty minutes, guys. No plot. No real action. No story. No character development. Just a nonstop barrage of factoids about the setting sloughed out like refuse into the street, half of which were "Gee, that sure is weird and unexplained." You clearly understood that pulling this crap was bad, but you went ahead and did it anyway, at exhausting length.

hmstr said:
of course they have to remind us this episode that the nun scene happened, what a mood destroyer, without those scenes this shit would be way higher in score for me.

SideCharacterKal said:
Really loving this, everything is really good
Essly is a damn NEET. What the hell is that on his bed? LOL

LouRence-kun said:
yes exactly, it make me feel uncomfortable watching the nun scene like why they need it to remind more of whatsoever happened

FreezePeach said:
Essly's explanation about non-interference makes a lot of sense. If they start preventing conflicts between humans, where they stop? Sometimes people just need to duke it out, both sides may have good reasons for it. Keeping 220 millions of humans peaceful would require rivers of blood and would make Idaten the main enemy of humanity on the same scale as demons were.

Superheroes movies, even with syrupy "with great power comes great responsibility" are generally the same, they usually fight supervillains who can actually fight them, not just massacre humans left and right according to their moral judgement.

Now that demons are back and instigating the conflict idaten will act.


It wasn't him. It was a metaphor as narrator clearly indicates:

To Rin, who was driven by her sense of duty to fight demons, an Idaten who shirked his training in order to learn in the human world was essentially the same as a shut-in who did nothing but play porn games all day.

Rin and Essly never lived like that so there was no chance for scene like that to occur.


It happened right after Essly's explanation why they don't interfere into human wars, the nun doubted that god exists. If you don't see how these two things related and why it was mentioned you should just try to think harder. It is quite obvious really.