Psycho-Pass 3 Episode 6 Discussion

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Nov 30, 2019 1:10 PM

#51

Byniavo

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'May Sybil's blessing be with you.'
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Nov 30, 2019 1:15 PM

#52

Jin_uzuki

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The story is a mess and the episode format doesn't help.

At least the characters are likeable.

Dec 1, 2019 2:36 PM

#53

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Fantyyy said:

lavah said:

Same here, I keep zoning out in every episode. Also it feels like rather than being intelligent they just want to sound intelligent. It's a whole mess. They are just investigating bunch of new people that are "important" and supposed to be somehow related to the main case but that's not interesting at all. Season 2 wasn't nearly as bad as this one.

I just wish they wouldn't do this large tone changes to an ongoing franchise, because this anime tbh has nothing to do with Psycho-pass other than re-imagining the same setting and throwing in some old character camos. This is more like a reboot in a completely different style rather than a sequel and I just can't stand it being called Psycho-pass 3.

I don't think the investigation is that bad, but it for sure doesn't fit with what this franchise was about until now, it's just generic crime story stuff. I really miss the Akane-Kougami-Makishima, Peace and welfare vs Justice at all costs mechanic that was the base of this whole franchise until now, and imo it's pretty sad so many people don't seem to care that the very thing that made Psycho-pass unique is gone.

Also, Sybil itself is like non-existent this season, it's just there, the story doesn't do anything with it...how is this Psycho-pass then?

The whole thing with Makishima & Kougami are a one time thing it was never a setup to the story, even showed by how S1 ended. It only ended the 'Makishima case', but it didn't conclude the main case and that is Sibyl. I can't even imagine an asspull of them bringing that 'unique' aspect back. They tried to copy S1 on S2 and failed badly. It makes sense for a series focusing on the society to get a fresh theme every now and then instead trying to imitate the original.

I do wonder as well though what does this Bifrost has to really do with Sibyl hope we get the answers in the next 2 episodes because as bad as S2 were it still connected.

Dec 1, 2019 6:31 PM

#54

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it seems like they are trying to build a story line for the future of psycho pass bitfrost that is. There is only 2 episodes left and we are only just closing in on inspector 3 who has some relation to her mother playing 1 of 3 members in the bitfrost game , in 2 episodes they might wrap up things with heavens leap and either the woman and inspector 1 takes her place or they catch inspectors 1 and 2 then its a chapter closed and season 4 can pick up from there

Dec 3, 2019 9:46 AM

#55

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Seeing Kei getting tortured was really sad.

I think Kogami might have infiltrated Heaven's Leap.

And expectedly Maiko gets kidnapped.hope someone saves both All of them.

Dec 4, 2019 2:08 AM

#56

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I found this summarize of episode 6, it quite explains a few points that I didn't get while watching the episode.

This is always the hard part of mysteries: you want the characters and the viewers to be figuring things out at roughly the same time. If the heroes are ahead, the viewer is likely to get confused. If the viewer is ahead, they're likely to be bored waiting for the characters to catch up. That said, there are still quite a lot of interesting things going on in this episode. Top among these is that the bombings aren't really about killing anyone. Rather, they're about what the investigations into those bombings have revealed—i.e., the dark underbelly of Japan's new pro-immigration policy. During this case, our heroes have come across arms smuggling, sex slavery, and illegal drug usage in relief facilities. All these are ways that immigrants are being exploited.

The trick is that this plot has clearly been co-opted. It's original purpose is unclear but it is being used as a way to force the government to improve the conditions of the immigrants coming into the country while at the same time clamping down on corruption. However, this also has a major side effect—it weakens the current government. By weakening the government this way, it's also strengthening Heaven's Leap—doubly so thanks to the power vacuum left in the wake of having nearly all the religious leaders killed. And Heaven's Leap—specifically its acting head, Torri Aschenbach—is more than happy to exploit the situation. However, Heaven's Leap has its own skeletons in its closet. In their compound, cut off from the Sibyl System, they are implementing their own plan to reform latent criminals: put them into an apathetic, near vegetative state caused from an overdose of anti-psychotic drugs.

This isn't the first time we've seen “Eustress Deficiency”—a disease caused by having a life so stress-free that your body and mind just shut down from the lack of stimulation, eventually ending in death. Back in season one, Makishima called it the leading cause of death in Sibyl's society. The difference here is that Torri Aschenbach has figured out a way to induce it on purpose—and believes that doing so is literally God's work.

It all comes back to the fact that Sibyl's judgment is treated as word directly from God by members of the church. What Sibyl demands—what God demands—is mental purity. And say what you will, but the nearly comatose sufferers of Eustress Deficiency certainly have a clear Psycho-Pass. Thus, the more indoctrinated church members have no problem believing the twisted logic that, as having a low Psycho-Pass is the ultimate good, kidnapping and forcing people to undergo the “Eternal White” procedure isn't a crime: it's salvation. It's simple religious fanaticism.

Now all that's left for them is to ride the bombings to a useful conclusion. It's as Aschenbach said last episode: the church believes all people should eventually be converted to their religion. And that is something that cannot happen if they are locked away inside the special religious zone. All they have to do is prove that the religious zone is a failure and that they are the only religion without any corruption. Though with the Public Safety Bureau and Ministry of Foreign Affairs breathing down their necks, its easier said than done.

Speaking of those two government agencies, their power struggle continues—and all signs point to something bad happening in the future because of this. To make an American analogy, Mika's Public Safety Bureau team is the FBI while Frederica's Ministry of Foreign Affairs team is the CIA. The FBI works on all cases inside the country. The CIA works on cases abroad. In episode two, Frederica's team was barely skirting the line of what is allowed—i.e., her team waited until the moment the criminal's plane left Japan, before leaping into action and arresting him. The problem is that this time Frederica's team is clearly operating inside of Japan—a blatant violation of the rules. More than that, instead of sharing her information about what's happening outside of the country as it pertains to this case, Frederica's trying to cut Mika's team out of it. This forces Mika's hand and puts her officers in unnecessary danger. Worse yet, because both teams are running ops in the Heaven's Leap compound, they have every possibility of getting in each other's way—and potentially letting the bad guys get away with murder. Or to put it another way, Mika has every right to be pissed.

Random Thoughts

There actually looks to be a three-way power struggle going on: Mika's team, Frederica's team, and Akane's team—though who exactly is in each team isn't clear.
The more I watch the more convinced I am that Akane is in prison by choice.
It's cool to see that our Enforcers really do understand Arata—going so far as to disobey his orders to protect him from himself.
I suspect that, now that Kei's wife is all set up to be fridged, we'll get to see how Kei does with playing Azusawa's game.

Dec 5, 2019 5:18 AM

#57

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Way too many loose ends, idk how they're going to explain all of it satisfactorily in just 2 episodes.
For instance,

1) Who is Shizuka Homura and what are his motivations?
2) How and to what extent is Bifrost able to operate(ie.inspect relation, inspection motion, relation hedge) What do they mean besides just the fact they can manipulate society? Why can the congressman operate within Sibyl despite their criminal behaviour?
3) How are the inspectors in Fox keeping their hue clear if not through Eternal White?...it was revealed in the beginning of Ep. 5 that they are a criminal syndicate that can maintain their hue, but they haven't touched on it since.
4) Who are the survivors of Peacebreakers(ie.the two Pathfinders)... if it's Shinogi and O'Brien, how are they involved?
5) How does Kisaragi know the Foxes(ie. why did she cover for them in Ep.1 by stealing Koichi's card), why did she react to Auma's death, how are red roses connected?
6) How does Kyoko Saionji know about Kei's brother Akira, and what is Akira and Atsushi Shindo's dealings with Fox/Bifrost that got them both killed?
7) What does Foreign Affairs know?
8) How will they take care of the Foxes within the Public Safety Bureau, which was hinted by the institutionalized previous inspector at the beginning of Ep. 5?
9) And finally, will they ever reveal why Akane was imprisoned, and why Sibyl is seemingly covering up for the Foxes?

I felt like they tried to incorporate too many elements this season, and it just ended up a bit confusing...

Personal gripe with the way the episode was handled... end of Ep. 5 Arata said to Kei.."Don't worry about Mai, I'll keep an eye on her while you're gone" but then proceeds to do the exact opposite in Ep. 6!
If you're not going to put her in some type of witness protection type deal, at least assign someone to watch over her, if her husband is about to do a covert operation.

Also, the subs for the episodes really make it confusing. At first Kogami's group is called the Ministry of Foreign Affairs' Operations Department, but now they're called Suppressing Actions Department(SAD)?

herricklukDec 5, 2019 5:25 AM

Dec 5, 2019 11:58 PM

#58

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Kei can pull off imitating rather well, he didn't seem the type.
"Bottom" uh what.
Man, Irie and Arata's bond has really grown on me.
The promise scene was pretty heartrending.
Maya seems to be in danger now as was flagged. Kei is in that state (and Mao) while Arata's just had a terrible side-effect from using mental trace. Things are looking bleak.
Also, that summary in a couple posts above is helpful, makes things more clear.

herrickluk said:
Personal gripe with the way the episode was handled... end of Ep. 5 Arata said to Kei.."Don't worry about Mai, I'll keep an eye on her while you're gone" but then proceeds to do the exact opposite in Ep. 6!
If you're not going to put her in some type of witness protection type deal, at least assign someone to watch over her, if her husband is about to do a covert operation.

Also, the subs for the episodes really make it confusing. At first Kogami's group is called the Ministry of Foreign Affairs' Operations Department, but now they're called Suppressing Actions Department(SAD)?

Yeah, weird how he didn't assign anyone to keep an eye for her even secretly either. Perhaps they don't have enough people.
and I agree, subs got confusing here and there.

OrangeCloudsDec 6, 2019 12:10 AM

Dec 7, 2019 3:10 AM

#59

Raizel

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Well tons of stuff happened and how Obrein is still alive...

Mai I hope someone can help her.

Dec 11, 2019 7:04 AM

#60

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Kei and Mai are going to die? Mai has several death flags before but Kei?? Noooo.

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Dec 17, 2019 3:54 AM

#61

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This is getting more mediocre each episode. Sad.

Dec 27, 2019 7:04 AM

#62

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Why'd they have to take Mai?! D:

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Jan 4, 2020 6:21 AM

#63

Kish0

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2 monks 'protecting' a warehouse full of prostitutes. Definitely suspicious.....

He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame.

Jan 14, 2020 9:35 PM

#64

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nanimeanswhat said:
At this point, it feels like I only watch for the action because I'm too dumb to grasp all the information thrown at me in 45 minutes (it's tiring, ya know). I am so lost in the story that most things don't even make sense to me, .... and I'm looking forward to the last 2 episodes. I hope we learn what happened to Akane in those 3 years. I've missed her.
"

I feel the same dude, those last 2 episodes were to boring for me! I can't pinpoint why tho?

Jan 14, 2020 9:39 PM

#65

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lavah said:

Fantyyy said:
I can't believe they turned Psycho-pass into this bland, average detective story. I don't even know why I keep forcing myself through these episodes half asleep anymore, what am I even hoping for at this point? Season 2 with all it's flaws was at least enjoyable.

If anyone could pinpoint why it is so boring? Like it is the dialogues? Execution? Writing in general? Additionally I did not feel that bored from ep2 through 4.

Jan 14, 2020 9:46 PM

#66

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Hyack said:
I found this summarize of episode 6, it quite explains a few points that I didn't get while watching the episode.

[*]The more I watch the more convinced I am that Akane is in prison by choice.
[*]It's cool to see that our Enforcers really do understand Arata—going so far as to disobey his orders to protect him from himself.
[*]I suspect that, now that Kei's wife is all set up to be fridged, we'll get to see how Kei does with playing Azusawa's game.
[/list]
[/spoiler]

It was more interesting to read that summary than actually watch the episode, it is to a pity that I didnt enjoy as much as you!

Jan 14, 2020 9:48 PM

#67

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herrickluk said:
Way too many loose ends, idk how they're going to explain all of it satisfactorily in just 2 episodes.
For instance,

1) Who is Shizuka Homura and what are his motivations?
2) How and to what extent is Bifrost able to operate(ie.inspect relation, inspection motion, relation hedge) What do they mean besides just the fact they can manipulate society? Why can the congressman operate within Sibyl despite their criminal behaviour?
3) How are the inspectors in Fox keeping their hue clear if not through Eternal White?...it was revealed in the beginning of Ep. 5 that they are a criminal syndicate that can maintain their hue, but they haven't touched on it since.
4) Who are the survivors of Peacebreakers(ie.the two Pathfinders)... if it's Shinogi and O'Brien, how are they involved?
5) How does Kisaragi know the Foxes(ie. why did she cover for them in Ep.1 by stealing Koichi's card), why did she react to Auma's death, how are red roses connected?
6) How does Kyoko Saionji know about Kei's brother Akira, and what is Akira and Atsushi Shindo's dealings with Fox/Bifrost that got them both killed?
7) What does Foreign Affairs know?
8) How will they take care of the Foxes within the Public Safety Bureau, which was hinted by the institutionalized previous inspector at the beginning of Ep. 5?
9) And finally, will they ever reveal why Akane was imprisoned, and why Sibyl is seemingly covering up for the Foxes?

I felt like they tried to incorporate too many elements this season, and it just ended up a bit confusing...

Personal gripe with the way the episode was handled... end of Ep. 5 Arata said to Kei.."Don't worry about Mai, I'll keep an eye on her while you're gone" but then proceeds to do the exact opposite in Ep. 6!
If you're not going to put her in some type of witness protection type deal, at least assign someone to watch over her, if her husband is about to do a covert operation.

Also, the subs for the episodes really make it confusing. At first Kogami's group is called the Ministry of Foreign Affairs' Operations Department, but now they're called Suppressing Actions Department(SAD)?

All the questions that need answers? I suppose the writing of that arc is worse than season 2, I don't remember being as bored as those last episodes. I hope those last 2 episodes would be more satisfying!

May 1, 2020 4:00 AM

#68

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I just knew as soon as Mao reacted the way she did learning of Auma's death, Torri knew something was up.

Whelp ... Maiko is probably dead.

Jun 12, 2020 1:45 AM

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Eoussama

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As always, I'm so impressed by how acrobatic and flexible Arata is.

Jul 22, 2020 2:19 PM

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Aosnow said:

lavah said:

If anyone could pinpoint why it is so boring? Like it is the dialogues? Execution? Writing in general? Additionally I did not feel that bored from ep2 through 4.

I feel the exact same, I was so excited by episode 4 but this episode has convinced me I have officially lost track of the plot lmfao. I have been sooo bored and keep zoning out :/ I think the plot just got too convoluted/abstract, the election stuff was easy to understand

el3mel said:
I feel the season has reached its peak with episode 4 and the end of the election case I'm afraid. This case hasn't been as interesting, but there're 2 episodes left, each of 45 minute, still time to improve such case and end the season strongly.

^^this too

Nov 21, 2020 5:11 AM

#71

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lol at Kei saying do the same for me.
Akane.
Mika watching.
Bottom.
Joseph is dead.
All those people.
FREDERICA!!!!!!
Eternal White.
2120/12/19.

The waifu Frederica showing her fierceness. Happy to see the 12/19 date in an anime because its rare. A very important date. :) Kougami will appear in the next episode. He has to.

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Dec 16, 2020 9:31 AM

#72

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Slowly, through solving cases, incidentally the ills of Japanese society re: immigration are being revealed. It really does feel like the viewer is on the same level as the Inspectors+Enforcers in regards to discovering who is the true culprits.

Mhm though I don't get how O'Brien is alive.

★♥

Jun 11, 2021 3:03 PM

#73

BiobulletM

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The arc it's taking shape, but still felt like there was some padding

35 years old ossan who still watches anime

Aug 22, 2021 1:21 PM

#74

Disapeared_Ghost

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another fairly decent episode.

Jul 10, 2022 1:19 PM

#75

St0rmblade

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To be honest the image of Kei after torture looked straight out of a yaoi story. I'm sorry xD

Also it *seemed* to me that Arata has a thing for Mai. Or maybe it was just his eccentricity.

Jul 11, 2023 4:30 AM

#76

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Booooring. Not much action in 45 mins of watch time. This season sucks with its convoluted plot.

Sep 27, 2023 2:26 AM

#77

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Can we just step back and appreciate Irie has now warmed up and has physically shown compassion by stopping Arata from doing another metal trace alone.

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Sep 27, 2023 3:30 AM

#78

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Reply to twoheadedmona

I came back to watch anime because of this show, which is one of my favorite series.
So far I like it.
My only issue is that Arata seems like a Mary Sue, he has a superpower and also he is a master parkour, and also he is a genious, being able to solve puzzles faster than anyone in this show!

I am excited to learn about what happened to Akane tho.

@twoheadedmona Me too, I am very curious about Akanes's situation. I liked the show, some say it cannot compare to season 1 but to me it still has the season 1 touch but with heavy mystery.

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Oct 28, 2023 12:55 PM

#79

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Mental tracing is such a convenient ability. Without it, they never would've known the truth. They are so close to finding out the real enemy, but it looks like they are too late. I wonder if they still have time to rescue everyone that got captured. That was a good twist, btw.

Will they ever explain how Arata has inhuman physical abilities? Even the enforcers, who are the muscle, are surprised regarding it.

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