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Ney02 said: North514 said: No you really hadn't up until that point. The first 5 episodes never covered the history of humanity that much in depth (honestly more is revealed in the current show though I heard they go into much more depth in the original at episode 40 or so) and the 5th episode was about Kastrop's Rebellion Isherhorn history is only given like 30 seconds of background which again probably will be introduced in the next episode. Phezzan was introduced slightly early in the first episode but thats the only extra info that is and even then not much and probably will be introduced later. Outside of the that amount of lore revealed is about the same. I mean in general the new one is too short they will never go in depth like the old one I don't want to say go watch the original again but as someone who is watching both the OVA and remake simultaneously for the first time. I really can't see what details you are pointing to though I might have missed something. I think later down the road the remake will miss episodes regarding the world building like the episodes dedicated to some of the court intrigue and episode 13 and 14 (not going to mention the contents to avoid spoilers for those who haven't seen the OVA) because those were either OVA original stories or existed in non main books at least according to wikipedia. The penalty of trying to stick closer the book I guess especially cause I really liked those episodes. However at this current moment aka at episode 5 in both I don't see where there was extra details the new one left out. |
LurKing said: I am a new viewer, and I am somehow bothered why they didn't show Yang grieving for his like best friend? Or at least some concern for Jessica? This is IMO important also even if they are compressing the series into a smaller one. This a detail that is actually left out though not related to lore. In the original he goes to Jean's grave and sees Jessica there its like only 30 secs but it was an important detail as you said though even in the remake in this episode he does show concern for her. There is also moments after Isherhorn where he comforts her though even in the original his job is really busy and can't spend much time with her. One scene I am kinda of sad they left out and I am pretty sure there are later good episodes that they will cut as I mentioned before because they weren't in the main novels. For that reason the original is definitely worth watching. The new version is giving less time to the first 16 episodes which will be adapted into 12 though the 3 movies should mean the next arch will have more time than the original. Also to be fair I don't know if the grave scene was in the original novel but like many have said that doesn't mean anything when it comes to making the story better. |
BilboBaggins365May 2, 2018 5:37 AM
| Can someone remind me when did Jessica husband die ?! this anime airs weekly, so maybe there something that I forgot. I don't remember that they showed him dying in last week episode !! |
Ney02 said: miguitronik said: As a guy who still hasn't watched the original, I really liked the fact that the Alliance and the Empire are equally bad and the two main characters just want to make them a better place. It's a nice deviation from the tipical Empire=Bad Guys "Democrats"=Good Guys narrative we've seen so often in all kinds of media. Now I can't wait to see the Iserlohn battle. If you liked this aspect you should really watch the old OVA which is way better than the new version in general, character have a more strong visual identity, the plot is more developped, soundtrack suit more and many other stuff only thing i think is better in this one is a very few detail like Lao in the first episode. except the way they did this scene was identical to the novel. OVA changed everything by making Yang sit out the memorial at house, and he rushed out to save jessica, went with her, got attacked at his own house for doing it. In DNT was exactly like it was in the novel. Trunicht never forgot this incident, btw. |
thepath said: Can someone remind me when did Jessica husband die ?! this anime airs weekly, so maybe there something that I forgot. I don't remember that they showed him dying in last week episode !! It was actually in the very first episode. He was in one of the fleets that got destroyed. |
MagisterArcanum said: Farabeuf said: I'm a bit disappointed with the CR translation of this. They're not being consistent with the ranks and should be careful with names. Both the epic fansub of the OVA and the novels spell the name of the top Alliance officer as "Sitolet" and here they spell it as "Sithole". Normally I wouldn't care too much, but every time his name came up I read it as Admiral Shithole, LOL. Sithole is a real surname actually. Take, for example, Ndabaningi Sithole. And Sithole is used in the DVD subtitles of the original OVA series; Sitolet is used in the earlier LD subtitles, and Central Anime did not update their subtitles to reflect the change. The novels use the spelling Sitolet though. Interesting. |
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| Looks like a little time-skip happened here from the last episode where everybody is already settled in. Sucks for Jean, but he did raise his own death flag. Yang was pretty nonchalant after coming home from an assassination attempt on the freeway, as well as a 2nd attempt after a grenade was thrown into his own home by terrorists, all in the same day no less. And he didn't even report them. Can't tell if he's fearless, jaded, or what. But at the very least, his thoughts (as well as Jessica's) during the speech were all sound, particularly about warmongering from a safe place while glorifying death. I hope Trunicht dies sooner than later. And that was one strong ass garden sprinkler. Looked as strong as a fire hose if it knocked them off their feet. |
| This episode wasn't as good as the others so far, not it wasn't bad or anything. It was essentially the OVA version but without some details and the addition of the car chase scene, which was ok I suppose. It was also interesting that they threw a grenade rather then (I believe) gas in the OVAs. I am hoping they do the Iserlohn fight properly because it is a highlight / milestone in the story. Plus it was just plain awesome in the OVA. Also just remembered that I can't spoil the story because HOPEFULLY there are a lot of new viewers lol. |
| They are nailing the adaptation so far. This is the same LoGH quality. Long live the Free Planets Alliance, and ‒ much more importantly ‒ vote for Job Trunicht. Trunicht and his allies are fairly authoritarian, but Maduro has set a stiff standard, so not quite there yet. Politics nowadays consists of national leaders trying to out-dictator each other, so there is some competition. |
| Three straight episodes of FPA and Yang Wen Li in this adaptation. Lol, Reinhard and Kircheis sure is getting the short end of the stick. Not that I really mind. I always preferred the FPA perspective seeing as how dysfunctional democracy is more relatable to me than aristocratic intrigue as someone who grew up in a country that's pretty much like the Free Planets only with a shittier military. |
| I wish Cowboy Bebop never existed. |
| the most heartbreaking part about this anime is that it will only last 12 episodes SOLID episode. fucking loved the government stuff and ethics, whatnot. that shit is funnn. |
| Is it me, or did Yang do a frame-perfect Kyon Facepalm? |
| More Yang Wenli episode please :) |
| Yang really is an amazing character. Seems the alliance also has its issues. I’m looking forward to Isherlon. |
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Nikki_Z said: It's been a while since I've seen the original but Yang and Julian's reactions to when Patriotic Knight Corp came to Yang's house seemed very unrealistic. After they (the Patriotic Knight Corp) threw a grenade into Yang's house followed by Yang spraying them with water causing them to flee, they just casually start talking normally as if nothing really happened, with Yang just sitting on his broken table? huh?? They could've definitely come back if they wanted to, and why not call the police? Other than that this was a pretty good episode, really liked the pacing compared to the last episode, though, I'm curious, will we not ever see what the Dominion of Fezzan is up to in this one? guess we'll see. I remember some of their faction members being introduced in episode 1 of the original. The novel goes into more detail there. As for the police, it was indeed called by neighbors in the novel. They knew right away that stuff was up but only mobilized when the neighborhood made it a point to specifically call them up. They're reluctant of moving against the Patriotic Knights, probably pressured not to if possible from up above. So basically, the PK scattered after being drenched AND the sirens started blaring, not just because they got a little wet. This adaptation really messed that up (heck, Yang had a chat with the cops too). And yes, the car chase was anime original. I think it was simply put in because the OVA had a car-rescue scene back then (which was also original). I honestly don't know why they try to straddle the line between being more of a novel adaptation but also tick boxes the OVA did... |
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| Nice episode!!!! sprinklers? It was water canyons!!! lol Well, now, even Yang how the widow is in the black point of the government!!! The next Yang´s mission will be awesome, although a little "kamikaze"!!! :/ |
kaelthas31 said: Lindle said: Good episode. Was fond of this in the original as well, the first time we see that despite being a democracy the Alliance is similarly corrupt to the Empire. Character designs are still an issue, what with everyone having more or less the same face (sans Caselnes, whose nose is noticeably larger) - in a series with so many characters that it's damn near impossible to keep track, having distinctive designs is important, and I had more than a few am-I-supposed-to-know-who-that-is moments as usual. It was well-paced, though, and the car chase was a good scene. While Trunicht's voice is noticeably less charismatic than the OVA version his speech and body language still carries his charisma well enough. Above all else, though, this is where the series brings in one of its most major themes - the difference between war as glorified by those who don't have to fight it, and the harsh reality of those who do. It's an important milestone. That said, shame they left out the line about how "the most popular freedom is the freedom to not get involved". Fucking this. the alliance is not a real democracy is a populist regime that controls all media and the government uses paramilitaries to attack the opposition In short Basically It's America, Just Replace The Patriotic Knights into ANTIFA, and you got it spot on hahaha |
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| there he is, the professional politician, always turning other people s tragedy into personal gain... i hated Trunicth in the OVA but looking back the series wouldnt ve been nearly as memorable without him you know i never liked Julian Minci s design back then... he looks generic here but imo thats still an improvement |
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| This episode made me realize that the Free Planets Alliance makes no sense as it is shown. The country is too big and consists of too many different planes for a central democratic government to effectively control it. The space geography would demand extreme federalization of confederalization for the government to even function. Most matters would necessarily be dealt with each planet individually, and individuals would likely have stronger loyalties to their home planet than the central government. |
| Another impressive episode ,really lovely bundling and pacing if you ask me! Looking forwards to the next episode. |
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| Great episode...... |
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Luthandorius said: Also a bit funny stuff with the water - where Yang got wet. (In the novel he was directly at the memorial service hall. They used it so that sprinkler/water system already got introduced before Yang used it later.) Still though, why would a sprinkler be configured in a way that could sprinkle water directly in front of the door; isn't that a bit imprudent? Lindle said: thepath said: Can someone remind me when did Jessica husband die ?! this anime airs weekly, so maybe there something that I forgot. I don't remember that they showed him dying in last week episode !! It was actually in the very first episode. He was in one of the fleets that got destroyed. Not her husband though, but a fiancé |
SerhiykoMar 20, 2020 2:13 PM
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I only wish Job Truniht's face was as punchable in this version. Such a sneaky bastard. |
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| A not-at-all warm welcome to a guy I did not missed seeing... Good ol' Trunicht. And dude! They had already addressed Jean Robert's death?? I totally missed it! Julian being the responsible adult at home is always great to see. And seriously on Cazellnu's redesign... His face looks weird! They made him look suspicious, like he's up to something. He had such a reassuring dad face in the OVA, I miss it. |
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| Good episode. Yang is much better in this episode, the plot is progressing so i don't mind the pacing. |
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| I love how Yang is always making his superiors uncomfortable If something ever happens to Jessica, we know who did it Julian, is a wonderful kid, he has a great future ahead of him. This is a free country that has a group of people harassing people who have different views on war? |
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