Lovely Complex Episode 7 Discussion

xMusicMohawk said:
In all my anime history I've seen only 2 characters that are this dense...Yamamoto and Otani

PF said:
Otani had some right to be dense about it. Take their relationship with each other and then for her to suddenly drop that she likes him? He's gonna think of everyone except himself because he found the idea to be the least likely option, even if all arrows pointed at him. Hell, maybe he might have thought it but quickly tossed it aside as being absurd. As for it not being to happen, actually, been there and done what Otani has done. My current love had showed some signs of interest and I had tossed it aside thinking it impossible for that person to think of me in that light, especially not being the type they would normally like(just like Otani is far from a type that Risa would like). It took some much "IT'S YOU DUMMY!!" for me to realize.

And Risa playing the ghost amused me to no end. Much better played out in the anime than it was the manga.

JusticeSoulTuna said:
Tbh, nobody's really thinking about how he feels about it. Everyone's just saying he's 'dense' and he's an idiot, but put yourself in his shoes. He's always had a complex about how short he is, and not too long ago they were trying to help each other find someone else. They're always taunting each other but they have each other's backs. So if suddenly everyone in their friendship group says that she likes someone, yet they won't tell him, it's not obvious at all. Her confession was ok sure, but as she even realized, he doesn't consider her to be possible. How would you though? They were always at loggerheads, yet friends trying to help each other find somebody. So no, it's not obvious. Consider how the guy feels in the situation; if you were him, it'd piss you off how everybody's leaving you out of everything and calling you an idiot. For a girl who claims to like him, she's making him feel like crap and acting very, weird and distant to him, only making it worse imo. And like others have said, he just never considered himself a possibility. And how could he? He never imagined she'd like him of all people, and they've constantly joked about it in the past, and whenever other people said they're dating, they'd both deny it. People are biased by the third person outsider perspective, who knows all of the events and Risa's developed feelings. But put yourself in his shoes; to him, they're still the same comedy duo as before. How's he supposed to magically know that she's fallen for him, especially if she's just angry all the goddamn time. If she'd just been straightforward and actually properly explained her feelings then of course he'd get it. It's the typical anime cliche where people either aren't straightforward nor do they explain what they mean.

Alas, this is shoujo anime, so this sorta drama will happen for a while. It's all fair enough. Still pisses me off though

Honestly, I know most of the people who talked about this anime did so years ago, and no one's around to read this, but let me tell you something. Being the guy in the situation hurts too. You have no idea how it feels to go your whole life, not knowing how someone feels cause all they do is send mixed signals and act weird. I get it, this is anime, this is shoujo anime even, and we're in the perspective of Risa and we're meant to feel bad for her. But that's the problem; did anyone stop to consider what he's thinking? Or have we forgotten the previous episodes? Ohtani got tricked by a trap and had a run in with his previous girlfriend, but he's still trying to help Risa find a boyfriend. Now all of a sudden, everyone's acting weird and Risa's angry all the time? Ya have any idea how isolating and unfair that is? She confessed, but he took it as a heat of the moment way of saying 'wow, you're awesome for giving me these presents', not 'i've fallen in love with you randomly even though you'd never think that'. Please. Even with the 'hints'; he pointed out that there's several guys who are shorter than her and idiots in the basketball team. Don't give me that crap about 'hints' when the easy solution is to SPELL IT OUT. Oh but he's so 'dense', who gives a crap. A guy will never know until you're honest. If you think it's ok to leave him in the dark and get pissy cause he doesn't get it, then you're just being selfish and thinking about how you feel. Honestly, whenever shoujo anime does this, it really pisses me off. SO many things could be solved by just being honest and upfront. No 'hints', no friends keeping shit from you, not sideways confessions and mind games. Jeez

Real talk, the lack of common sense is what's the problem here. I love how nobody's blaming Risa for not confessing in the beginning, or how no one's talking about how easily she could've clarified how she felt. She could've said to him some really easy words such as 'No, I mean that I really like you, we've been friends and joked about each other, but i've come to like you, despite our height difference, and I wanna be with you'. Not 'waaaah, why doesn't he get it, I'm just gonna cry and hit him and be angry at him instead of explain it'. Fuck's sake. it's so goddamn simple. If you ask me, the one who's 'dense' is the girl that doesn't realize that explaining shit in conversations makes sense. It's always the guy who's wrong huh? It's always him not being sensititve enough. In alot of these situations, people always back up the girl character without realizing that it takes effort and understanding from BOTH sides for a relationship to be possible, not for a guy to become psychic and just get it from the beginning. Like "oh, you called me a midget, and get pissy at me, and deny we're in a relationship but you like me all of a sudden? MAKES SENSE" Seriously people...logic, it aint hard