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| The ending felt like a mixture of Code Geass and MSG :Seed Basically, Tekkadan's achievements and their deaths led to massive changes in the world (CG), and Tekkadan had to keep on doing it even after their 'leaders' had died (similar to Three Ships' Alliance in SEED where the two ideologically founding leaders both died during the cause, Athha and Cline, but the organization eventually became a major powerplayer, and Tekkadan might not do that much on their own, but with Kudelia as the public figure they can rule the Mars Union, which is actually what they teamed up with McGillis to achieve). Akatsuki looked like a Mini-Mika except for the hair color, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone wrote doujinshi between him and his mothers, just because of it. |
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Ictius said: ArcanaTrace said: Overall even though i hated the progression of season 2 but I'll still give them the credit for having the balls to make the villain ultimately win in the end. How is Rustal a villain? Mars is now independent, Human Debris were banned, Gjallarhorn is now democratic. All thanks to this magnificent man. Well basically the entire series started because of how corrupt the Gjallarhorn is and he's literally the face of that said organisation. The end result could have been achieve if Mcgillis won because his ideal was to end corruption, along with Kudelia of course. |
| Iok died, that is enough. Dammnit though, Rustal is now gjallahorn leader? OH well, at least Nobliss died too. |
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ArcanaTrace said: Ictius said: How is Rustal a villain? Mars is now independent, Human Debris were banned, Gjallarhorn is now democratic. All thanks to this magnificent man. Well basically the entire series started because of how corrupt the Gjallarhorn is and he's literally the face of that said organisation. The end result could have been achieve if Mcgillis won because his ideal was to end corruption, along with Kudelia of course. And yet they did nothing. McGillis was also a scheming bastard but no one is blaming him. Kudelia was sitting in her office almost throughout the entire series, what a Maiden of Revolution. In the end, it doesn't matter who won, because the "villain" did what the heroes were supposed to do. |
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Ictius said: ArcanaTrace said: Well basically the entire series started because of how corrupt the Gjallarhorn is and he's literally the face of that said organisation. The end result could have been achieve if Mcgillis won because his ideal was to end corruption, along with Kudelia of course. And yet they did nothing. McGillis was also a scheming bastard but no one is blaming him. Kudelia was sitting in her office almost throughout the entire series, what a Maiden of Revolution. In the end, it doesn't matter who won, because the "villain" did what the heroes were supposed to do. You clearly didnt read what I said about Kudelia at my original comment. And yes Mcgillis was a scheming bastard that killed his best friend but he did it to ultimately end the corruption. Yet Rustal basically just did it because he opposed to that ideal. |
| wasnt the best ending but the ending we got was good enough to end the series with glad they decided to have mika dying as him living would have been dumb iok finally got killed and Atra had her kid and her and Kudelia are taking care of him which is nice though one thing i wish that Julietta would have got killed really hate the fact that she thinks she beat Mika but w/e all in all it was a good enough end to end the series with and now Mika and Orga are back together forever now to wait for the next gundam series |
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| the ending turned out pretty alright but still the final battle and build up into this kind of ending is really bad and anticlimatic. Rustal suddenly become rightful man with all these reformation. julietta is really weak character, she doesn't deserve shit and shouldn't be allowed to be this important. all this could be prevented if mcgills is a competent guy who can actually fight rustal back and give us at least entertaining final arc, instead of this meaningless pathetic tekkadan bullying by god-rustal. bonus Iok death and Ride F. Seiei as fanservice s1 9/10 s2 7/10 |
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| at least Iok die. And I don't why but it's like Ride will make another season of this lol. |
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| Is it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. |
| My rating for last season was 9/10. This one was 7/10. Overall, the show is still a solid 8/10 *shouts in Angry Joe tone* BADASS SEAL OF APPROVAL!!! Yeah, as much as how I was extremely disappointed by the previous episodes, the finale was actually very satisfying to me. Both Mikazuki and Akihiro's last stand was pure badassness. I was already expecting them to die with their heroic sacrifice. Seeing both Iok and Nobliss die in their own ways was also fine enough for me. Julietta doesn't deserve to die. Her last statement about Tekaddan somehow make her redeemable for me. However, I'm still skeptical about Rustal's goals in the long run. His actions to make Kudelia becoming a more powerful leader of Martian Union was indeed legit. But like they say, you can't hide your skeletons in the closet forever. |
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-Abyss_Walker- said: it's a fanservice to make the ending not look that bad. "hey at least the bad guy is not so bad after all" that kind of impressionIs it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. |
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| finally its finished. ending was predictable (except for ride's part) ever since death flags were raised so fast and enemies having impenetrable plot armor(well for some so that they could be milked for the sake of plot). but i was really disappointed that for the first time a GUNDAM doesn't really make any difference esp since half way of this series. their MS is basically just a normal MS with a gundam skin. well yeah they've killed a lot for fodders here and there but there's really nothing much to it, other than these gundam have some overclock power and only mikazuki can only do it. I guess what they lack in their mechs in this series compensated us with a lot of likeable and some detestable characters. 7/10 for me, the series had a really promising start but it just went downhill in terms of plot and characters being out of their character. im not saying im not liking it because its not my desired ending but the reason is they could've done it better, ever since they showed how they could milk Iok to make the plot move everything became predictable. and its so funny how they try to please some fans by killing Iok, i mean seriously whats the point??? its already too late the dmg has been done |
devilscornerApr 2, 2017 6:00 AM
| No, just no. The epilogue was quite good, but the first half was not. So Rustal was a good person, I haven't noticed all this time, how ignorant I must have been. |
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| Finally one of Alternate Universe Gundam series where the MC died because fuck Plot Armor. This ending feels like i'm watching the ending of War in the Pocket all over again. |
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-Abyss_Walker- said: Is it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. Not sure why members even think Rustal is evil in anyway, at most he is a schemer. And yes he use some shitty forbidden weapon, but thats his own way of ending the problems. Plus We only officially knew Rustal's personality in a few episodes, he just came out to oppose McGillis's ideal together with Tekkadan who is working with McGillis. In our real world logic, Rustal is the guy with vision and McGillis is simply just dreaming. |
valvravetruthApr 2, 2017 6:01 AM
| This episode was such a wild ride!I still have goosebumps. So.... Mika and Akihiro died noble death, Tekkadan died as organisation, but as family they still live. At least it's good. And Mika and Atra son is so cute. I understand that this season wanted to show us that stronger wins, no matter if you have good cause or not. I liked this season, even if was a little worse than first. 8/10 |
DazeFire said: wasnt the best ending but the ending we got was good enough to end the series with glad they decided to have mika dying as him living would have been dumb iok finally got killed and Atra had her kid and her and Kudelia are taking care of him which is nice though one thing i wish that Julietta would have got killed really hate the fact that she thinks she beat Mika but w/e all in all it was a good enough end to end the series with and now Mika and Orga are back together forever now to wait for the next gundam series Why the hatred for Julietta? She never use underhanded tactics against anyone. She just doesn't understand/know what Mika is actually fighting for. Whatsmore she never thought of herself beating Mika at all. The scene where she "defeat" Mika the devil, was just part of a propaganda. |
valvravetruthApr 2, 2017 6:03 AM
| Nobody is born evil, its such conditions which make them so. RIP Mika, Akihiro. And fck IOK!!!! |
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| Iok kujan how does it feel to be dead...damn it was good...Mikazuki died damn it my god the feels and also akihiro..atara was able to get pregnant(the magic of anime) nevertheles Love the series and very satisfied with the ending |
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| I loved this series until the last 8 or 9 episodes. Ever since Lafter died they've had some strange plot choices that I suppose were meant to be realistic takes on the results of constant conflict. That the piece of scum murderer of children Rustal Elon survives without a scratch and gets to get his hand shaken by the princess is upsetting. But not as much as having Ms. "I'll talk non-stop while fighting " Julieta killing our MC and been celebrated for it. That is just plain trolling the viewer. Are you kidding me? What kind of viewing experience do you think people get from this? Yeah, it might make for realistic storyrytelling but is about as pleasurable as having my nosehairs burnt with a blowtorch. -Abyss_Walker- said: Is it me or is Rustal wanting to implement those policies came straight out of nowhere?.. It just seems out of character that after seizing Gallahorn, he would relinquish control of Mars and put a democracy in place, considering before this we only know that he thinks its necessary for Gallahorn to be in power and that he doesn't really give a shit about the corruption. You're absolutely right. I guess someone told Okada that having a child murderer come off so scott-free wouldn't do so they had to show that it was all for a good cause all along. |
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| crushed Iok/10 despite the shortcomings of season 2, this show was still really entertaining. at least it is still one of the better long Gundam shows in years. and i think they can make another series in the same universe. they still haven't showed the remaining Gundams/Demons. i think there's supposedly 72 of them... /gg |
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| We can learn something from this series, which is "Antagonist =/= Villian". An antagonist is not necessarily evil, he merely has opposing actions and thoughts. Best used in the case for Rustal. |
| I had some problems with the plot of S2 so it wasn't as good as S1. Overall still enjoyable. 7/10 and S1 was 8/10 |
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| Its been a long time the death of a character statisfied me so much. Thank god Iok died. Slightly weaker season but a pretty solid ending for what they've been doing. |
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| Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. |
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| The quality is the same with season 1, but it felt less satisfying probably because the ending left me with mixed feelings. That Rustal Ellion should have died .... |
| A few other things to note: the restored Gundam Bael in the storage vault now has restraints locking its joints and Mace-chan still lives on (as it did in the finale of the previous season). Intriguing symbols. |
RollsRoyce said: valvravetruth said: We can learn something from this series, which is "Antagonist =/= Villian". An antagonist is not necessarily evil, he merely has opposing actions and thoughts. Best used in the case for Rustal. I think a sequel is still possible as I think Rustal got away from a lot of trouble. Ride is the real thing to uncover new plots. Another 10 years onwards, Akatsuki can go revenge for his dad maybe. Fabienne said: Well when Rustal and Julietta are decent persons, this anime did a truly bad job at portraying their characters and showing us their view on things clearly enough. Still believe that what Ride did back there will make Rustal as the true pilot villain in a movie or sort to end it for all. I don't think Akatsuki's mothers or anyone else from the big Tekkadan family would allow him to. |
JizzyHitler said: You're comparing a high official of what essentially the space police that are supposed to uphold order and justice, committing war crimes left and right, orchestrating massacres like in Dorts, starting bloody wars just to tarnish his rival's reputation (SAU-Arbra), shitting on the laws he's supposed to uphold, using illegal weapons twice, making deals with war profiteers to let said profiteer sell his weapons (Nobliss), with a bunch of kids who mostly were forced to kill to survive in the world full of shit because of people like Rustal running it? Even in the kill count, Rustal's schemes killed magnitudes more people than all of Tekkadan combined ever could. Are you even serious...? If you are, then something must be very wrong with you and your morals.why should the main villain reach retribution though, he may of done bad things but so did tekkadan and mcgillis, rustal was a necessary evil to keep stability in the world before he could move to capitalize on his endgame found in this epilogue. The show was gray as shit, probably the most morally gray in the entire franchise but tekkadan and mcgillis arguably would of done more harm to the world with their anarchistic power goal. |
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JizzyHitler said: I loved this ending, its going to divide people no doubt but this is a very ballsy shot at idealism and self sacrifice being portrayed as a greater good and the crushing realities of war that contradict them. Its nihilistic and depressing but I can only applaud this decision more than anything even if I am sure some people are just going to feel the show is weaker because of it. Rustal nor tekkadan were evil, they were both routes to corruption or a negative impact on the world, they have both done messed up things and killed but it was a fight for existences. I do wish things in the finale were handled better, it was kind of rushed and should of been spread out across an entire cour, but I am still gonna give this a 8/10, probably up there are one of my favorite au gundams, it went from a generic row row fight the power action show to something much more critiquing and criticizing the glorification of violence in media with this depressing finale. Couldn't have said it better. I got almost everything I wanted out of this ending. Pretty much reached the potential I thought it had, which is very rare for shows like this. |
| Essentially this series was a gundam version of game of thrones. For game of thrones fans they will enjoy it. So many favorite characters killed off in both seasons. It was a solid season but not as good as season 1. But the epilogue made me feel a little better. The way it ended makes it possible to Make a 3rd season or just end it there. There is still some trash that needs to gotten rid off. But Ioks death made me feel so good. I can give this Gundam season a 8/10. |
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