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TheLittleRedHero said: Manecleis said: I finished the subbed episode and all I see is that everything is going according to Junko's plans (through Despair Yukizome) right now. Tengan was a mere pawn, just like everyone else. She didn't let Mitarai and his abilities escape for naught. Junko is somehow the mastermind again. Probably but in this case she already said that in this episode, she's already dead. Yes. I hope she's enjoying this little show that she set up, out there in the afterlife. She looks like she does. |
| I feel like some people aren't aware that this isn't the ending, and the Hope arc will cover the rest. How the hell are people treating this as a conclusion for this series. Anyways, pretty good episode. Mitarai and his OP brainwashing video was hilarious. Munakata's badass af when he's dual-wielding. Togami's here to save the day. Hopefully they explain how he survived in the Hope episode. Also, that last 20 seconds... Hinata's here to wreck shit up. Seems like he's still got his OP side to him. 9/10 |
GoldenDevilGamerSep 26, 2016 2:41 PM
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TheLittleRedHero said: I mean she is really. I mean she even got popcorn while watching the entire situation Lol. Yeah, that was the best part of the episode, haha (along with Togami being an awesome badass as always). I mean, at this point, "ultimate hope" and ultimate despair are both scary as hell and it makes for a hilarious show in Junko's eyes. That's probably what she saw in Mitarai from the beginning. |
TheLittleRedHero said: Manecleis said: Yeah, that was the best part of the episode, haha (along with Togami being an awesome badass as always). I mean, at this point, "ultimate hope" and ultimate despair are both scary as hell and it makes for a hilarious show in Junko's eyes. That's probably what she saw in Mitarai from the beginning. That would probably be the case. I mean here's the thing here for Mitarai. I will say this again, yes he's using his ability... but the way he was using it is wrong as well, if you get what I mean that is. I can't really translate much from my end Spanish subs wise, but basically what Munakata said in one of the conversations in this episode connects to what's going on now. By brainwashing people into not feeling pain, sadness, negative emotions and despair, he's making mankind not human anymore. The conclusion to this show will probably be that hope and despair are neither good or bad, just complementary opposites that make people human. In a sense, Komaeda had some of the right pieces of the puzzle. Hope is born from overcoming despair, one cannot exist without each other - proof of it was when even Naegi could be brainwashed by the suicide video, meaning there's a part of despair in him that he's able to fight because he's emotionally strong. But Komaeda was also a fanatic so he implemented his beliefs in the wrong way. |
| Man, I just know a bunch of people will say this anime is bad or some shit and I'll be so pissed about it...But what can you do right? |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
TheLittleRedHero said: HyperL said: Man, I just know a bunch of people will say this anime is bad or some shit and I'll be so pissed about it...But what can you do right? Well, it's a form of an opinion, so I guess that's just how it goes. Exactly...It's just their opinion, so I'll have no choice but to contain the rage that is building inside of me... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| Mirai-hen Finale Survivor Roundup: Kyoko Kirigiri - Deceased Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code NG Code: Passing the fourth time limit with Makoto Naegi still alive Kohichi Kizakura - Deceased Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code NG Code: Opening left hand Sonosuke Izayoi - Deceased Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code NG Code: Eating food Daisaku Bandai - Deceased Cause of Death: Poisoned by NG Code NG Code: Witnessing violence by participants Chisa Yukizome - Deceased Cause of Death: Sacrificed NG Code: Kyosuke Munakata dying Great Gozu - Deceased Cause of Death: Sacrificed NG Code: Being pinned to the ground for a three count Seiko Kimura - Deceased Cause of Death: Sacrificed NG Code: Someone standing on your shadow Ruruka Ando - Deceased Cause of Death: Sacrificed NG Code: Someone leaving the playing field Juzo Sakakura - Deceased Cause of Death: Stabbed by Munakata, bled out NG Code: Fighting someone bare-handed Kazuo Tengan - Deceased Cause of Death: Throat slit by Munakata NG Code: Telling a lie Byakuya Togami - Active Situation: Saved Naegi from Ryota's soldiers with Hagakure Yasuhiro Hagakure - Active Situation: Saved Naegi from Ryota's soldiers with Togami Makoto Naegi - Active Situation: With Hagakure and Togami NG Code: Running in the hallway Aoi Asahina - Active Situation: Shot in the leg, possibly captured by Ryota's soldiers NG Code: Being hit with a punch or kick Ryota Mitarai - Active Situation: Uploading the Hope video to a live worldwide broadcast NG Code: I don't know the specifics as off yet, but from what I can discern, it has something to do with using the Hope Video. I will update this when I have the translated version. Kyosuke Munakata - Active Situation: Fighting Ryota's soldiers NG Code: Opening a door Hidden 16th Member - Unknown Situation: Unknown Izuru Kamukura - Active Situation: Has arrived at the Future Foundation Building The 77th Class - Active(?) Situation: Possibly arrived with Izuru at the Future Foundation Building. Possibility that the entire class has arrived, same possibility that only Izuru, Kazuichi, Fuyuhiko, Akane and Sonia have arrived. |
AzureAceYTSep 26, 2016 3:21 PM
| Subs sleeping on final episode, longest delay so far, thanks FUNI. I swear Ryota is one of the funniest characters I've seen in a while in anime. This guy is JUST material in both here and Despair arc. Why even Hope for Kibo-hen. |
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| I think people here is misunderstanding this episode. The purpose of it was to set everything for Hope Side, and it actually delivers in doing so, as well as explaining the remaining mysteries we were left with. Come on guys, you should have seen that coming from the moments Kibou-hen was announced. You don't have to be Izuru to predict that. Any complaints about the true ending of the series, we'll meet at the discussion for Hope Side, but I really enjoyed this episode. |
KamuiGavin said: I think people here is misunderstanding this episode. The purpose of it was to set everything for Hope Side, and it actually delivers in doing so, as well as explaining the remaining mysteries we were left with. Come on guys, you should have seen that coming from the moments Kibou-hen was announced. You don't have to be Izuru to predict that. Any complaints about the true ending of the series, we'll meet at the discussion for Hope Side, but I really enjoyed this episode. "You don't have to be Izuru to predict that." Hey! You stole my quote from Zetsubou- Hen ep 11 thread! |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| I wonder if the people who liked Mitarai before still like him now... I always thought he was meh, but damn, this was just...awful. Funny how it turns out Munakata wasn't wrong at all. He only really killed Tengan who went mad. Pretty interesting since my hate for him is pretty much gone now. If only everyone around him didn't screw up/went despair he would have been a cool character from beginning to end. And really? 5 minutes of recap? Really Kodaka? Hajime showed up at the end to set up for Hope, as expected. WIll he really be the only one though? I'd love to see the others who "survived". It was an ok episode. Future going full Despair is kinda annoying but it is what it is. Kodaka better not kill Hina... |
| The amount of people thinking that this episode was written to be a finale (or was supposed to be a finale) is astonishing. But then again, some people here think that Zetsubou-hen and Mirai-hen are written to work stand-alone so maybe I should not be surprised... Manecleis said: I finished the subbed episode and all I see is that everything is going according to Junko's plans (through Despair Yukizome) right now. Tengan was a mere pawn, just like everyone else. She didn't let Mitarai and his abilities escape for naught. Junko is somehow the mastermind again. If she were, then she failed as their little scene suggests that Jukizone had a different plan. BluexMage said: And really? 5 minutes of recap? Really Kodaka? Truth be told, this might have been done because they finished the ep where they wanted but had 5 extra minutes that needed to be filled with something but not much could have used expanding. Also, it allows Chisa and Enoshima to have a final word. |
NayraelSep 26, 2016 6:04 PM
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| Wow, I didn't think they would ACTUALLY make Tengan the mastermind. I thought that was just a red herring. And his reasoning for constructing all of this was just to make Mitarai broadcast a brainwashing hope video? I love this series but damn...this is a shitty plot so far. That said, I'm really excited to see how everything ties together in the Hope Arc. I feel like this next episode will be the saving grace of DR3 (although these two arcs have had some moments in their own right). I really want to see Sonia and the rest of the surviving members of the 77th class. This whole series now feels like a tongue-in-cheek commentary on how people who like anime don't want to face reality and would rather live in an idealized, one-dimensional world void of emotion. Kind of funny, and I have to hand it to Kodaka for leading up to this if it was intentional. I was thinking about giving this a 7/10 because Kirigiri's death felt underwhelming (probably due to the fact that they split it up into two episodes and used it as a cliffhanger) and how Tengan was revealed as the mastermind, but I decided to give it an 8/10 because that's what I rated Despair Arc and I like continuity...and also Juzo's sacrifice and Asahina in general bump it up an extra point for me. Above all else though...please keep Asahina alive. She doesn't deserve to die like this. |
ChanaynaySep 26, 2016 6:28 PM
AzureAceYT said: Ryota Mitarai - Active Situation: Uploading the Hope video to a live worldwide broadcast NG Code: I don't know the specifics as off yet, but from what I can discern, it has something to do with using the Hope Video. I will update this when I have the translated version. His NG code was using his talent. |
| please Asahina, don't die :'( please Kyoko, be alive :'( |
| I LOVED THIS! Maaaaaan, this episode was really good! Loved the shade Junko was throwing saying that Naegi basically wanted to brainwash the 77th class again XD HYPED FOR KIBOU-HEN THAT HAJIME SCENE AT THE END! OH MAN Ç-Ç |
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| I'm gonna have to agree with everyone on the brainwashing now. Things are just getting more ridiculous. |
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| I enjoyed the hell out of the episode cause it went back to the goofy old danganronpa self for a little while, i honestly think the lack of parody elements that basically made up the whole series hurt DR3 overall. Also for those confused about tengan's roundabout motives keep in mind he couldnt just steal the brainwash video, it needs to be specifically mitarai to make the orders. TheLittleRedHero said: I thought it was confirmed to only be a normal length episode, thats why im a tad worried about it.nobd said: so the final ep will be long or had the same length ? The final episode, Kibou-hen (which is the actual finale) is going to be apparently an hour, which will give closure to both Future and Despair Arcs. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
_Kairu_ said: I'm gonna have to agree with everyone on the brainwashing now. Things are just getting more ridiculous. This franchise was ridiculous since the beginning, Mondo turned into butter and Ishimaru become a SSJ in DR2. |
| If Junko wanted the world to feel despair she should just have aired this, instead of the killing game. |
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FadingFeel said: mitarai was supposed to only hear about the killings afterwords which would push him over the edge to brainwash the world.Wait, so does that mean that Tengan was the one who put the bracelets on the FF or was it someone else? Also, from what I seen on the episode, is that Tengan did not expect Mitarai to show up in the meeting from the 1st episode so there is no way that he planned on using him in the first place. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Omg Mitarai. Hope Video to counteract despair omg. Hope side ahhh |
| So what i'm getting here is that Tengan was so fed up with all the Despair happening, that him too thought that Mitarai's video was the only way... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| Does someone know with DR3 is doing well in Japan? I mean, I would guess it is just because is Danganronpa, but I still want confirmation and details on it... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| This episode was totally not what I was expecting, which is usually what I face in Danganronpa in general. Always the unexpected. So let me get this straight. Tengan really is the mastermind, but not one of the Despairs. He made the killing game to pretty much manipulate or force Mitarai into using the Hope Video when Mitarai questioned to himself whether that was even a good idea or not (especially after Junko forcibly used his abilities behind his back to plummet the world into despair). In other words, Tengan went insane into completely eradicating despair, much like, if not JUST like, Munakata (albeit in a different way), and they both went that way due to Yukizome, while being a Despair, causing them to have such mindsets and bringing them into conflict. Did I get this right? I honestly feel VERY bad for Mitarai. Throughout the major events of his life, he was frequently both forced and manipulated into doing these really ridiculous and wrong things practically no matter where he goes, and if he doesn't comply, either he dies or many of his friends, allies, or people he doesn't want to die does. This guy really can't get a break, can he? He's an innocent (well mostly innocent) sheltered kid who just likes anime, people. Let the man sleep. Christ... Now he went mad, too. lol Sigh. In any case, like I said with the Despair arc, I wish I could rate this a 6.5, but I'll rate it a 7 overall as well. I was hoping to see whatever they will do in Jabberwock Island like the anime hyped quite a long time ago already, but that never really happened. I got to see Danganronpa's queen of annoying bitches, Junko, again. Oh, and Hagakure and Togami returns. It's about time. Glad they're okay. |
AmyTwoSep 26, 2016 7:28 PM
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| Everything is Chisa's fault... Fuck this guy. Not all of life's problems should be solved with brainwashing.  |
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Pride- said: _Kairu_ said: I'm gonna have to agree with everyone on the brainwashing now. Things are just getting more ridiculous. This franchise was ridiculous since the beginning, Mondo turned into butter and Ishimaru become a SSJ in DR2. Hajime also went super sayain and a couple of teenagers sent the world into despair. |
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| I will be honest though, i do kind of hate the idea of kirigiri being killed off for this series after this episode. It feels really unnecessary. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Why do people talk as if this was the ending? do a label on the episode mean so much to you? Last episode is in 3 days. |
JizzyHitler said: I will be honest though, i do kind of hate the idea of kirigiri being killed off for this series after this episode. It feels really unnecessary. It's not confirmed though, Seiko's magic bottle is still around...Did the bottle saved Kirigiri? Or it was there just to troll us? Maybe it will be used in an unexpected way, like curing Asahina's injuri... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| So all these ppl had to die just bc Tengan wanted Mitarai to broadcast his shitty amv. ok makes sense |
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G_Spark233 said: Everything is Chisa's fault... Fuck this guy. Not all of life's problems should be solved with brainwashing. How can you fuck him? Mitarai's a sweet cinnamon bun. :( He just wanted the world to be a better place, and with his anime to help with that. I don't think he really intended to make them into mindless hope-loving zombies. Well, at least not until now. lol |
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| Makoto said that Tengan didn't fall into despair...But it would make more sense if he did...He watched the brainwashing video and became despair, but still retained his desire to save the world and stuff...So to bring back Hope to the world, he went about it in a Despairful manner... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
HyperL said: Makoto said that Tengan didn't fall into despair...But it would make more sense if he did...He watched the brainwashing video and became despair, but still retained his desire to save the world and stuff...So to bring back Hope to the world, he went about it in a Despairful manner... Yes, I would like that more, as well, though wouldn't that kind of make him stupid for watching it in the first place, unless he was forced? |
AmyTwoSep 26, 2016 7:44 PM
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| All of this is because of stupid anime lol. Mitarai ruins everything. |
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