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Aug 12, 2016 10:05 PM
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antonn said:
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I see some LN readers complaining about the adaptation, can someone clue me in on the problems? Also no spoilers please!

Besides the usual things that get complained about during adaptations or low budget episodes, they skipped a very important part of the story. Important as in basically the defining moment of the story. There's speculation that it might get thrown in at the end, but even if they do, it's very poor story telling.

*only some of LN readers think it's "poor story telling".

When a adaption show getting good reviews from most people, what you LN readers keep doing(saying the show is crap) never ever able help to promote the LN, because they only feels confusing and maybe annoying, if you want to promote it, just saying why LN is good, not why anime is bad because they don't think it's bad at all.
Aug 12, 2016 10:08 PM

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I've suddenly remembered why I stopped reading the episode comments on MAL.
Aug 12, 2016 10:13 PM
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I just passed here to say that you all LN readers are funny in your discussions. Just this, keep doing this and entertaning me.
Aug 12, 2016 10:15 PM
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duowolf said:
I've suddenly remembered why I stopped reading the episode comments on MAL.


In most cases this is funny or enlightening... but in some cases this a little boring...
Aug 12, 2016 10:20 PM
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duowolf said:
I've suddenly remembered why I stopped reading the episode comments on MAL.

Yeah, at least for this show, just go reddit or neogaf for discussion.
Aug 12, 2016 10:23 PM

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Fairly good episode introducing a lot of characters.
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Huh, I kinda read the manga alongside of watching this, so I didn't realize the skipped scenes.
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Aug 12, 2016 11:08 PM

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DanHellSing said:
Should I read the Light Novel? or Should I just read the manga?

Anime will surpass manga next week. If you want to enjoy anime better don't read anything or you will become like them, comparing and criticizing.

duowolf said:
I've suddenly remembered why I stopped reading the episode comments on MAL.

Like this
Aug 13, 2016 2:30 AM

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D-Joe said:
antonn said:

Besides the usual things that get complained about during adaptations or low budget episodes, they skipped a very important part of the story. Important as in basically the defining moment of the story. There's speculation that it might get thrown in at the end, but even if they do, it's very poor story telling.

*only some of LN readers think it's "poor story telling".

When a adaption show getting good reviews from most people, what you LN readers keep doing(saying the show is crap) never ever able help to promote the LN, because they only feels confusing and maybe annoying, if you want to promote it, just saying why LN is good, not why anime is bad because they don't think it's bad at all.

Peoples complaining about the skipped parts are mostly manga readers.
It's obvious that skipped part is going to be put at the end of the anime. But manga readers only know that scene as being important, they don't really know what happen further in, because they don't know the story afterwards, that's why they're so much annoyed with that part being currently skipped.
Not like I'm happy with their choice of putting it that far because I don't think that was smart, but it's not the end of the world either.

Manga readers and visual novel readers are usually far more noisy about skipped scene than novels readers, because we're very used to it, it happens all the time in adaptation from novels.
Aug 13, 2016 2:39 AM
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This was a good episode that showcased plenty of new characters and also introduced a new setting. The dual between Yatori and that knight was brief but entertaining and im glad that the dual ended without incident. Truly Yatori is talented with a blade.

The scuffle with that First lieutenant over the privates book collection was pretty funny especially how it was settled with a spider.


The new characters that were introduced in this episode look to be interesting
especially the bookworm private and the instructor for the main cast.

Im curious to see what will happen in the next episode as it seems that the people of the mountains are preparing for something big and that something important was taken from them.
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Really disappointed with how this is turning out.

Also the main cast's character designs are seriously pissing me off. They're practically an easter basket in an otherwise realistic world, just why it doesn't look good at all.
Aug 13, 2016 6:14 AM

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i wanna know what he saw at the end
Aug 13, 2016 6:55 AM

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This episode was very good actually.
I hope the overall rate will go up to 8.
Aug 13, 2016 8:07 AM

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When you don't know about the mythical epilogue so you actually enjoyed the episode
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Aug 13, 2016 4:00 PM

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Very good episode, really getting more n more interesting.

fucking lazy writing today
cause MAL is doing there job for once.
Aug 13, 2016 7:16 PM
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Oh finally a good episode went down,the each character dialouge's written masterful.
Aug 13, 2016 10:57 PM

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Matthew is feeling inferior towards Yatori and Ikta while Torway accepts his ineptness to confront the enemy. So, training in the mountains for some real experience.

That duel had me stunned, as in breaking the ceiling by a wooden sword. Ikta skipping the march-of-strength knowing it was a sham to hitting on girls.

Is it just me or most of "strategy" Ikta devises are kind of coincidence or just 'lucky' to happen at the right time and place.

A trouble is brewing and likely in thanks to the army, is going to be a rebellion??
Aug 13, 2016 11:38 PM
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nothing really much happen in this episode but still a pretty decent episode.
4/5

cant wait for the next episode about the tribe conflict.
Aug 14, 2016 1:33 AM

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Is it just me or most of "strategy" Ikta devises are kind of coincidence or just 'lucky' to happen at the right time and place.


aren't you confusing his way to deal with his own problem (which usually use his knowledge of plants and nature in general) with strategy and tactics used to control troops (which usually use his millitary tactic knowledge) here?
Aug 14, 2016 8:14 AM

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To me it was a pretty decent episode (non LN reader). Can someone give me a small summary of the important st00f please. I don't mind spoilers.

Thanks in advance.
Aug 14, 2016 8:35 AM

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In contrary to most people, i thought this was a really good episode!
Aug 14, 2016 11:36 AM

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That spider CG was really not good.
Since I'm still not invested in the characters, I'd prefer them to battle again, looks like I will get my wish next week.
Aug 14, 2016 11:51 AM

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Zefyris said:
rinneganfire4u said:


Is it just me or most of "strategy" Ikta devises are kind of coincidence or just 'lucky' to happen at the right time and place.


aren't you confusing his way to deal with his own problem (which usually use his knowledge of plants and nature in general) with strategy and tactics used to control troops (which usually use his millitary tactic knowledge) here?


was saying "strategy" in a broad sense, for you to better understand, meant to say nearly most of his plan of actions, whether in battlefield or just in random episodic moments, revolves around knowledge or prediction. It maybe hit-or-miss, but as he's portrayed a sloth intellect, he'll mostly be right
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Soli18 said:
To me it was a pretty decent episode (non LN reader). Can someone give me a small summary of the important st00f please. I don't mind spoilers.

Thanks in advance.


I'll try my best, bear in mind that english is not my 1st language; I'd rather suggest reading the novel (it's the last part of chapter 4).
Here is a summary of the missing scene.
Spoilers for end of Light Novel 1 and... episode 13 of the anime I presume.


You can notice that during episode 6 the characters referenced this scene two times.
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Edit your comment and put a goddamn spoiler for that shit. Or some forum mod do it, please.



I'm enjoying this for what it is. I haven't read the manga/LN but since I just got spoiled, it's not something that I couldn't have saw coming. Not sure how the story is going in the manga/LN but it isn't too bad from the point of an anime-only viewer. It's just episodic little shenanigans building up to the ermahgerd plot twist that you're all complaining about being skipped/moved.

Cliffhanger material anime right here. Will end on that plot twist and then everyone will be "S2 when?"

That aside, I'm really curious at what he saw in that prison/jail area. Hoping that new girl stays with us for the rest of the series. I doubt it since she's stationed in the north area and not an Imperial Soldier(I think?).
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Aug 14, 2016 10:14 PM

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Kazuto_Katsuragi said:

Edit your comment and put a goddamn spoiler for that shit. Or some forum mod do it, please.



I'm enjoying this for what it is. I haven't read the manga/LN but since I just got spoiled, it's not something that I couldn't have saw coming. Not sure how the story is going in the manga/LN but it isn't too bad from the point of an anime-only viewer. It's just episodic little shenanigans building up to the ermahgerd plot twist that you're all complaining about being skipped/moved.

Cliffhanger material anime right here. Will end on that plot twist and then everyone will be "S2 when?"

That aside, I'm really curious at what he saw in that prison/jail area. Hoping that new girl stays with us for the rest of the series. I doubt it since she's stationed in the north area and not an Imperial Soldier(I think?).


Watch ya language brah. Just calm down
Aug 14, 2016 10:16 PM

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Kazuto_Katsuragi said:

Hoping that new girl stays with us for the rest of the series. I doubt it since she's stationed in the north area and not an Imperial Soldier(I think?).


I hope so, she cute right?
Aug 14, 2016 11:55 PM

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Really?! end it like that ? seriously ? c'mon!!!!
who was in the jail ?!?!?! man, i can't wait to see it!

overall, it was a good episode xD lol, he ditched the exercise and hit a girl xD that part was funny and entertaining tho. maybe that girl will be the main character this time ? or maybe will be the main character until the end ? well, personaly i hope she will become one of the main character xD and somehow make a relatioship with Solork xD that would be kinda sweet imo xD

but again, seriously, who was in the jail....
i'm looking foward to the next episode.

ah...btw....hello megumin (at the end of the episode)
welcome to the show :D
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Soli18 said:
Watch ya language brah. Just calm down

Goddamn and shit are enough to warrant a language warning? Who are you? Steve Rogers? lmao

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I hope so, she cute right?

Hella cute. It'd be nice to have a companion for Ikta that he can talk about science with too.
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Soli18 said:
Watch ya language brah. Just calm down

Goddamn and shit are enough to warrant a language warning? Who are you? Steve Rogers? lmao

Nope but unnecessary use of those words.
Aug 15, 2016 2:59 PM
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Man that cliffhanger... It's almost certain that was a guy from the tribe but Iktas reaction was a bit strong for it being a regular prisoner. Maybe the tribe leader or someone similar in rank?
Aug 16, 2016 2:22 AM
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Episode is fine, too many LN readers bitching.

If 'that part' is truly important, it will definitely appear in the series later on. There are reasons why details tend to be cut or moved around during adaptations you fucking imbeciles. Direct adaptations are usually bad as seen from all the game into anime adaptations.

A game with a good story doesn't necessarily turn into a good anime, likewise with novels. Different mediums have different approaches to things and the fact that you people can't see that show how childish and arrogant you are. Are you getting paid for a living to adapt these things or them? It's easy to bitch in hindsight.

Despite all the LN readers giving it low scores, this show still has a 7.85 score. If it wasn't for dumb haters going "hurr durr tis wasnt wat i w4nted to see", it'd probably have an 8. It's obvious that anime only watchers are enjoying the show which is ALL that matters to the production company.
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rinneganfire4u said:
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aren't you confusing his way to deal with his own problem (which usually use his knowledge of plants and nature in general) with strategy and tactics used to control troops (which usually use his millitary tactic knowledge) here?


was saying "strategy" in a broad sense, for you to better understand, meant to say nearly most of his plan of actions, whether in battlefield or just in random episodic moments, revolves around knowledge or prediction. It maybe hit-or-miss, but as he's portrayed a sloth intellect, he'll mostly be right

1) using what is around you isn't relying on coincidence to begin with.
If you're in a place with rivers and woods, you can do something different than if you're in a place in rocky mountain. Using what you have is completely fine.
When you're fighting, you're not ona ground with nothing but asphalt everywhere with no building and nothing hiding the view at 100 kms around. A battlefield has stuff on it, using it is normal and isn't "luck".
2) Alderamin is a work that gives a lot of importance to strategy and tactics on the battlefield, and using a spider he saw around to scare off a petty officer and looks cool in front of a woman ISN'T going to be put in that category, no matter what you say about broadening the meaning. It was a trick using his knowledge of nature; not a strategy/tactic using his knowledge of war. This is two completely different subjects that cannot be mixed just by broadening something here.

No, seriously, if it was a work with no millitary tactic/strategy involved, using "strategy" to talk abotu the spider and the like would be fine because no one would confuse the two. But because there is both, we can't do that and need to be a little more strict with our use of the word or we'll be using the same word to talk about different things :].

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Episode is fine, too many LN readers bitching.

If 'that part' is truly important, it will definitely appear in the series later on. There are reasons why details tend to be cut or moved around during adaptations you fucking imbeciles. Direct adaptations are usually bad as seen from all the game into anime adaptations.

A game with a good story doesn't necessarily turn into a good anime, likewise with novels. Different mediums have different approaches to things and the fact that you people can't see that show how childish and arrogant you are. Are you getting paid for a living to adapt these things or them? It's easy to bitch in hindsight.

Despite all the LN readers giving it low scores, this show still has a 7.85 score. If it wasn't for dumb haters going "hurr durr tis wasnt wat i w4nted to see", it'd probably have an 8. It's obvious that anime only watchers are enjoying the show which is ALL that matters to the production company.

Peoples bitching were manga readers, because they were looking forwards to that part (LN readers knows what happen after that as well, so they are not giving as much importance to this anyway). This part is a chapter that was really recently translated it seems, so from now on manga readers don't know what will happen.
You're completely correct in thinking that it will definitely be put later. Most probably in episode 13. That's what Ln readers like me concluded, at least. That's why we're not bitching. :)

Also I don't think peoples giving it low scores are ln or manga readers.


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I doubt it since she's stationed in the north area and not an Imperial Soldier(I think?).

She's an imperial soldier. Just stationed in the north area rather than the central area. Ikta and others are supposed to be in the north for the next 6 months (said in the episode) before coming back.
So at the very least if nothing made anyone relocated elsewhere sooner than previously expected, she's here with Ikta and the others for the next 6 months, but won't be afterwards.
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even one hand yatori still invincible! what if Kenshin were to match-up deathmatch with Yatori dual blades? who would win? (assuming Kenshin is in his prime killing battousai mode not using the reversed edge but using the proper katana) LOLZ hahah
4/5.


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LOL Ikta skipped to pick up girls.

War is brewing, no surprise there.
Sep 4, 2016 4:43 AM

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Yatri is always a great fighter, even with 1 sword.
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Pretty decent episode, let's see what's next!
Dec 27, 2016 10:59 AM

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Wonder what was in the cell that Ikta stumbled upon?
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This empire is really rotten... no wonder Ikki wants to get Yatori out of there.
It's hard when you have a heroine that's so loyal to that dumb country.
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Smoove Ikta.
Haro's sweaty shirt sticking to her oppai.
It looks like Senpa is going to be Ikta's senpai.
Smoove Ikta saving Kanna.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Dat spider!!!! FUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK!
A sister? Did you just friendzone yourself?
What did Ikta see?
Dat ending.

Kanna is cute.
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So this anime was made by netflix or something? Bc the mc is a fucking wimp and we have to see female empowerment (aka a women with no muscles beating guys with twice her size) in every fucking episode...
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This episode was good, not as good as the past 2, but it was good.
It started the set up of the next arc (I assume) and the introduction of a character that might be a romantic interest for Ikta? I dunno, but I felt like that new girl and Ikta would make a cute couple, and I assume Yatori and Torway might have something, because I feel like the anime hinted at that.

Anyways, people were talking a lot about a reveal that was happening at the end of volume 1, but for now I think we still didn't get that reveal, because whatever Ikta found on the basement wasn't revealed, and I assume we're already at volume 2 of the LN, so I don't know.
I don't know who that girl is at the end, but it seems like she is going to show that the town they talked about during the episode hasn't given up on trying to conquer what's theirs (I guess).
Let's see how the next episode plays out
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