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| I've played Resident Evil games that had better writing than this. And I don't even like Resident Evil (and not just because the gameplay is awful). |
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| Pretty interesting overall. But it's gonna be forgotten really fast tho. 7.5/10. But i can't. So, 8. Lucasloco91 said: Its average afTheNaturalPerm said: Welp. I really liked Moe and her interactions with Souhei. Now if only the solution to the mystery wasn't this incomepetent and dumb... This year of Noitamina sure was quite bad Not one presentable show in their line up.  sigh ? Saekano is very good But hey, at least it wasnt the worst in these 4. |
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| I don't get the meaning of the last scene, when Magata talking alone |
| She mentions someones name at the end...Kishio and she mentions Michiru and her Uncle...who the heck was Kishio?! |
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| A couple more general observations after re-watching this episode. When Shiki is talking to Souhei in the real world, her views are very antinatalist. Life is a hindrance; death is liberation. However, in the flashbacks when she's talking to her daughter, her words are more optimistic and encouraging, particularly during the camel back ride in—I'm assuming—the virtual world (one of the most beautiful anime scenes ever); these thoughts are extended into—again, assuming—a kitchen back in her lab in the real world. Did the lab have a kitchen? I can't remember. I also understand why these scenes were so sad to me now. Shiki's optimism turned into a coldness that she fully embraced, then passed on to her daughter. And then it ends with Shiki alone, after having killed everyone close to her, having a schizophrenic conversation with herself. It's really depressing. 8/10 overall And it's about time I add Kenji Kawai to my favorite people list. |
| So...did she have twins and that's the one that was dead? This show is still about child abuse imo. ABUSE I SAY! Saikawa stop thinking about that psycho. |
| Decent ending. This show did not disappoint, definitely one of the better shows this season. The mystery in this show was pretty damn great. Also, loved both the OP and ED. 8/10. |
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| i liked their dialogue at the beginning ovarall it was a nice anime to watch |
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MoonStar9 said: They can say Magata's a genius whose intelligence is on a higher plane all they want, I still think she was just schizophrenic. Yes, she was schizophrenic. And she was genius too. And geniuses often has problem with their social life. In fact, this whole series was about her unability to sucessfully integrate into society. She didn't understand its rules. Because of her "gift" she felt like she belongs to nowhere. She was left alone and the world didn't understand her. Her world and values were totally different from other people. And the real question here is "who decides what rules are correct?" Does "majority" just dictate those rules to "minority"? Imagine the world when her rules were in effect and where rules of our modern society were oulawed. How would you feel then? This series takes her difference as a fact and tries to show it from her viewpoint. It doesn't try to judge her and I really appreciate it becuse viewer should be the one who makes all final judging. |
| I really enjoyed this anime...but ultimately it was pretty messed up. I wasn't a big fan of the last scene of mother and daughter. Was it beautiful? Sure...but then I recall that mom chopped off her daughter's limbs and well...that's pretty f'ed. The philosophical garble was interesting but excused a cold hearted genius from facing the consequences of her actions. Did anyone else check out the crazy eye on the camel they were riding! Hah.. It captured my attention. |
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A chapel is shown during Nishinosono-kun's talk with Saikawa-sensei . A chapel was also featured in Episodes 9 and 10 of the live-action drama version of Subete ga F ni naru. |
| [quote=Mich666] MoonStar9 said: They can say Magata's a genius whose intelligence is on a higher plane all they want, I still think she was just schizophrenic. Yes, she was schizophrenic. And she was genius too. And geniuses often has problem with their social life. In fact, this whole series was about her unability to sucessfully integrate into society. She didn't understand its rules. Because of her "gift" she felt like she belongs to nowhere. She was left alone and the world didn't understand her. I think she was more of a psychopath. She manipulated everyone around her...she seduced her uncle, (although it was molestation, she was not a victim), killed her parents, killed her uncle, and killed her daughter. She was a spoiled child who toyed and destroyed people like she did her doll. "Because of her "gift" she felt like she belongs nowhere." I don't think she has the emotional capacity to feel or care in the slightest if the "world" understood her. |
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| The anime itself was OK, it's a 5.5 or 6 to me, but the pacing, some dialogues and the mystery makes it more an averege anime, but the great animation (seriously enjoyed the designs and some of the effects like the 'Accommodation' or however it's called) and the music (both op and ed are great). Anyways, it's definitely not a master piece but neither a bad anime, you'll just enjoy it if you like philosophical and mystery stuff. |
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| That last scene really creeps me out. So if she kills more...........? Still was a good show to watch, but not really worth 11 episodes. I guess it may just be for those who've read/seen the original sources. |
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| Aw shit. Magata Shiki trolled everyone from the first episode to the last. Such a philosopher, multifaceted and mysterious character like her didn't deserve a disastrous death but has to pay everything she has done nonetheless. Although a psychiatric hospital or perpetual confinement wouldn't stop her, and ironically a death sentence would release her, making possible to achieve her goal. My only regret was because of Nishinosono, although she wasn't expecting anything from Saikawa, she definitely needed more attention. Still, very good work from A-1 Pictures, the research around the murder was very entertaining to watch every week though I was left with some doubts. I don't know if it was intentional by the script or were just plot holes. Anyway, another favorite for the mystery genre. Excellent opening and ending, interesting characters (my favorite was definitely Saikawa) and enjoyable as a whole. Liked every episode from first to last and never got bored, not even for five minutes. 8/10 |
| lol, i just laugh together with Saikawa-sensei when he realize that she trick him(us) again, from the very beginning the characters always says that Magata Shiki is a genius, but i was still holding doubts, until the lasts episodes when all the truth comes to surface, heck, she IS Truly a genius, i think most of ppl still don't realize that she actually made the infamous "perfect crime" (i assume that "the perfect insider" has this as a basis) well, she have quite a long time to plan every little detail, so you can say that was expected too, lol, annyway, she is awesome, and like everyone says, "Every genius has a bit of madness" the last scene is all about it, explendid! *.* |
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| I really liked the atmosphere from this show, it just worked so well. I felt so meh about the solution though. The whole you couldn't possibly understand what Magata Shiki is thinking felt like they just couldn't come up with any real justification for her actions. I was looking to give it an 8 but in the last 3 episodes I just wasn't feeling it so I'll give it a 7. |
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bdsbff said: It was slow for too long and then once it finally got going it just wasn't entertaining enough. The characters weren't all that interesting and that's what this whole show was about. Boring characters with slow pacing and a meh plot gets you a pretty boring show. At least the OP and ED were good. 5/10 I agree with all of this. |
| I was really hoping they wouldn't end it where they did but then again since when has this show ever been nice to its audience? You'll either appreciate its "keep-up-with-me" pace or hate it for that very same reason. That said, I really enjoyed this show. This and Sakurako were honestly the saving graces of an otherwise very bland season of Anime (and I refuse to compare the two as both have very distinct styles in story telling, I just really like both, that's that) and it's kinda saddening to see them go. Definitely worth a rewatch for a better angle on how the pieces fit together. That last portion was...an interesting conclusion to leave us at. |
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| Overall a good anime for me and I really liked the mystery even though in the end it was pretty easy to solve. 8/10 Really liked the conversation between Shiki and Saikawa, Shiki's perspective on things is quite intriguing. The conversation between Shiki and her daughter was really well done, Despite her views of the world, She was trying to bring her daughter up in a more optimistic way. |
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nihikun said: Existentialism (and nihilism) at its finest. Magata was probably a bit schizo since she was talking to dead people. She was able to predict their exact answers (imo) though due to her high intelligence. She killed her parents in order to grant freedom to her uncle which he refused. Until, 15 years later, he accepted Shiki's version of freedom, similar thing with her daughter. In her mind even the fact that you must be alive compromises your freedom, which in an extreme way of thinking is right. It pleases me to see that the series left people both satisfied and unsatisfied. It wasn't just a mystery anime, it had A LOT food for thought and in a sence you are free to decide if it was right or wrong, proving to everyone that right and wrong are abstract concepts determined only by each individual. Interesting post :) I also thought it was good that this series has given people very different impressions. I agree with what you said about the "right or wrong" concept. I think people don't like Magata because they can't understand her point of view, which is fine. There are perspective that are hard for us to comprehend, even if we want to be open-minded. The show isn't trying to make you accept her way of thinking, it's to open people's minds to how others' minds may operate. Magata and Saikawa were both difficult characters to connect with, making them also difficult for people to understand. If people don't understand Magata, then they won't understand why Saikawa was so fascinated with her. Because of this disconnect with the characters, I can see why this show could seem as boring or uninteresting to others. Moe, too, is a tricky character. I'm not sure about the novels, but she didn't seem as annoying/clingy in the drama, although she still had the same sort of childish personality. This case is probably one of the best for understanding Saikawa and Magata, but not enough to give Moe depth. Moe was developed over the several mystery cases in the drama, whereas they only went over The Perfect Insider for the anime. Moe for the most part in this series acted pretty much like what the audience would, constantly asking Saikawa, "why?" whenever she has no clue what he (or Magata) is thinking. Otherwise she was definitely pretty lackluster as one of the main characters. I still think the anime series did a good job of delving into different people's psychology and going over some philosophical concepts. 11 episodes might've been one episode too much for the series given that it may seem dragged out for those watching over the course of 11 weeks, but I'd say I enjoyed it quite a lot, it had a different tone than the drama series. |
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| Loves all the philosophical shits from this show. No really, it's always nice to see many different perspectives of people. The mystery is good and all, but the pacing is too slow and I just can't find it that huge of a show. Still, I'm going to give it a solid 7/10. It was a nice watch and definitely worth my time. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sakurako for Fall 2015 Mystery archetype |
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| This show sure was a mindfuck lol Had ups and downs, I'd compare it to DRRR regarding that aspect. I didn't like the pace and some charactes interactions at times, and I feel like the directing was kinda off too sometimes. Animation was pretty meh and lazy at times as well. However, I loved the character designs, visuals, Saikawa's hipster t shirts !!!, overall atmosphere (and I don't like IT stuff to begin with), thrilling mystery, Saikawa and Nishinosono relationship, and that OP doeee I couldn't help but feeling HYPED hearing it !! All in all, pretty good quality show, had an originality I really liked. 8/10 for me. |
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| Pretty good anime , the mystery got me interested , Some Great dialogues and intriguing characters particularly Souhei and Magata Shiki . The only problem i've had with this anime and why i rated it 7/10 is that this anime depended on the dialogues so when the dialogues weren't interesting it started to get boring |
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| The ending was solid, but that doesn't change that the beginning and the middle was a bore. Forgettable |
| I'm too weird to live but much too rare to die. |
| Live action drama was better. |
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| I think Dr. Magata becomes a program because of the scene with Saikawa sensei and her at the library, or maybe Saikawa sensei was talking to himself (Dr. Magata becomes ones of his personalities). Overall I liked the show, it was very interesting with a good story and likable(and weird) characters. |
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| I liked the anime. This episode was cute but confused. I didn't understand the last scene when Shiki was talking to herself. I understand the way of thinking of Shiki over death. Maybe |
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bagazkarap said: Loves all the philosophical shits from this show. No really, it's always nice to see many different perspectives of people. The mystery is good and all, but the pacing is too slow and I just can't find it that huge of a show. Still, I'm going to give it a solid 7/10. It was a nice watch and definitely worth my time. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sakurako for Fall 2015 Mystery archetype Sakurako seems more original to me. This was a dry watch. |
MoonStar9 said: They can say Magata's a genius whose intelligence is on a higher plane all they want, I still think she was just schizophrenic. Dissociative identity disorder=/=Schizophrenia This was an excellent watch, even if the anime had many flaws in writing and dialogues, I enjoyed every minute of it. In such a dry season where there was so little to watch, I had a good time following this show in particularity. What I liked the best in this show that it really felt like a novel adaptation, and not made specially to be animated, but to tell a good mystery story. It felt like a breath of fresh air in the mystery genre anime did wrong so many times. Now I'm finally off to watch the 2 live action episodes of this story and compare. |
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| Nishinosono was utterly annoying throughout the whole series. I hoped she's get better, but she didn't, staying an eyesore till the bitter end |
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| Pretty good ending, I didn't to expect Magata Shiki to appeared but I'm glad she did Although I do want to more about Magata Shiki however I felt her mysteriousness what is appealing so I guess showing us just pieces is enough for me |
| The end was a flashback or what? Flashback of a dream like scene? Because she killed her daughter right so it must be a flashback... So confused XD |
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| Magata called from Tokyo? :O Maybe she did download her Michiru personality into it :O 9/10, needs more anime like this. MoonStar9 said: They can say Magata's a genius whose intelligence is on a higher plane all they want, I still think she was just schizophrenic. When you're as smart as her, then maybe your opinion would be worth something. It's like an ape trying to understand Einsteins theories. |
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| Thank God this is over. 4/10 (and that's being lenient). |
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| I think i probably would much more enjoy this show if it was a movie instead,11 episodes of this was really boring and hard to watch,the end was pretty cool but 99% of this anime was kinda meh,i didn't liked the character that much especially this pseudo-hipster smart smoker,i guess its still a okay show especially if you like investigation style. 5/10 |
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| A satisfying ending to a great mystery show! it had its slow moment though. |
| Nice 2nd half of the ep but overall disappointed with the show, first ep was amazing but after that, nothing, barely had enough to keep things engaging and interesting, watched mostly for Moe's interaction with Saikawa. 5. |
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| This started off fine. Everything went downhill after all the stalling they did by giving us lengthy, talkative episodes one after another. Those were so unnecessary. Can't help but mention that some of the conversations were horrid and cringe-worthy lol I ended up having to force myself to watch this. Overall, this anime tried so hard to sound "smart" that the mystery, we were all trying to wrap our heads around with, became lost. All the mathematics and computer stuff were just there to mess with us, I felt. They brought great philosophical themes, on the table, but they didn't deliver it properly. At least they ended it with an open-ended question with no absolute answer. Philosophy is like that, anyways. Great OP and ED though! As others have mentioned, a movie would've been better than this. 5/10 P.S. Nishonosono's father sounds like a great prof. Where to find one like him? |
| This episode seemed more weird to me. Dr magata is a total wierdo |
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