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| I really liked how Lulu's death scene played out. I'm kind of skeptical that she really is dead though and she'll recover in time for the ending. |
| I love how the show avoids falling into the trap of portraying all gays as innocent victims who can do no wrong like a lot of other stuff with anti homophobia messages. The fact that it acknowledges the bad parts of the community whose aggressive methods do more harm than good and encourages peaceful solutions actually makes the message a lot easier to agree with in my eyes. On another note, good night sweet princess. |
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SeibaaHomu said: I love how the show avoids falling into the trap of portraying all gays as innocent victims who can do no wrong like a lot of other stuff with anti homophobia messages. The fact that it acknowledges the bad parts of the community whose aggressive methods do more harm than good and encourages peaceful solutions actually makes the message a lot easier to agree with in my eyes. On another note, good night sweet princess. Now if only certain people would stop "excluding" the said subtext and claiming it does not exist here or that it has nothing to do with sexual preferences or overall social bullying. |
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| Bear Ginko is so adorable GaOOHAHHH <3 Damn, that's some serious bullying. The music starting from Kureha being chosen as sacrifice is great. GO GINKO! FIGHT DA LUST! BREAK DAT WALL! Woah 20:20 Kureha looks amazing. NO LULU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God this animation, I'm dying ; n ; WHY DID THEY JUST CUT THE MUSIC LIKE THAT. TOTALLY KILLED THE MOOD. NO, THAT.. THAT CLIFFHANGER IS NOT OKAY. GAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| This looks straight out of Shirobako. Tweeted out by Ikuhara at 6:50 am Tokyo time. "And... dawn is breaking after a night working in Yurikuma Studios. Busily working on the final episode. Gaugau. （ ・(ｪ)・ ）" Click on link to see photo A: (1280x960p) http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/mFMpm Click on link to see photo B: (1280x960p) http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/qd0nn Link to Tweet: https://twitter.com/ikuni_noise/status/580486993450266624 Link within Tweet: http://p.twipple.jp/mFMpm |
DarkWolfHunter said: WHY DID THEY JUST CUT THE MUSIC LIKE THAT. TOTALLY KILLED THE MOOD. Because it did not kill the mood and only emphasize the death, thus making it stronger? What did you expect? A Funeral march to start playing? THis is not a mexican soap opera. |
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| I don't know if they explained this yet but what does it mean when a bear "eats" someone? |
| [Input amazing signature] Jelly? |
| いよいよ大詰めガウ！ iyoiyo ōdzume gau! "Finally, on the home stretch gau!"  359x480p image: http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/qAqGN 1280x1707p: image: http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/qAqGN Link to Tweet: https://twitter.com/ikuni_noise/status/580729610414878720 |
okanaganMar 25, 2015 8:18 AM
| Episode that runs on a track too obvious, even the ending was quite clear, given the portents of doom that broke upon Lulu; however, the fact remains that it was very sad and melancholy narrative at that juncture. I'm so sorry for Lulu! Plot that puts the last elements to end the story, I hope she can put in place a final really original. Drawings and animations today really as good quality. I can not wait to follow the latest episode. |
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| This can't be!!! LULU!!! Next ep proceeds with Kureha judged by the court....though...i thought this would happen on today's ep (because that was the last scene on ep10) |
matias067Mar 25, 2015 10:05 AM
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| Reasons I think this show is (in large part, at least) about lesbians: 1) There's "yuri" in the title (in addition to meaning "lily", it's a slang term used to refer to lesbians); 2) The show is in the yuri genre, and regardless of whether that yuri is primary, secondary, tertiary, etc. element, yuri as a genre is about girls loving girls (which is what we call lesbianism); 3) Many of its major players are bears (a slang term in the West to refer to a burly/rugged gay man); 4) There's a fair amount of food symbolism, and the most prominent foods are symbols of feminine sexuality, which heavily emphasizes the idea of food as sensual/sexual (fish=vagina, honey=love juices); 5) Other symbols (the bee in ep. 4, boxes, and the Door of Friends; the symbol on the Door of Friends is a diamond, which is yet another symbol for the vagina) also imply femininity and/or feminine sexuality; 6) Upside down pink triangles are seen repeatedly throughout the show and are prominent symbols and places (Yuriika's drawers and the school, which, when shown from above, is usually shown with the point facing downward). I should point out that Ikuhara takes influences and inspiration from all over the place, so I don't think that the fact that some of the symbols and sexual metaphors in Yurikuma are more specifically Western should be taken to mean that they're unintentional. There's also some other stuff about sexuality for the sake/pleasure of others vs. sexuality for the sake/pleasure of those doing the sexual act in question, tying that in with stereotypes about lesbians and the fact that the yuri genre is much more often aimed at men rather than women, even though it's about women, and using those things to make points about the dichotomy of how the majority of society views lesbianism. I've also seen a lot of people saying, "but there aren't any men". The implication in that statement seems to be that because there aren't any men, it's not like the women are choosing other women over men, because there aren't any men to not choose. First, the fact that there aren't any men even more strongly underscores the fact that this is a show about women and women's issues (a significant subset of women's issues consists of issues facing women who love other women). Second, if what people here and a few other places are saying about the show using perception is true (and I'm seeing a little bit of that myself, now, as well), the fact that there are only women heavily implies that the women in the show are strongly focused on other women, not men. It's sort of like how, in the Monogatari series, when Koyomi is the narrator and when he's out and about in town, you never see anyone other than him and the one or two people he might be interacting with. It's depicted that way to show you that he's strongly focused on himself and those few other people he interacts with. Now, I'm not saying that the show is entirely about lesbianism and oppression/persecution/exclusion of lesbians (though, the three main characters are lesbians, so I think it's reasonable to assume that that's the focus). The theme of oppression/persecution/exclusion can be applied more generally (and I think that's probably intended). There are also other themes about love, jealousy, the various ways we define things both individually and as a society, and how views that lead to prejudice and persecution are carried over from generation to generation that can be applied both specifically and generally. Some of the stuff Ikuhara's said about how he uses lesbians to represent "minority", and other things I've learned about how LGBTQ issues (and "unsavory" issues in general) are treated differently in a collectivistic society like Japan than in an indivisualistic one like the U.S., lead me to believe that one of the reasons lesbianism isn't mentioned or stated explicitly in Yurikuma is plausible deniability. From what I've read, it seems like, in Japan, issues that are seen as unsavory (LGBTQ issues included) are dealt with in a very roundabout and indirect way, with the effect being that the person or people doing the oppressing essentially disavow knowledge of it and/or responsibility for it, making it very difficult to change things. Japanese lesbians actually don't even have a word for themselves in their native language. In addition to being reasons why lesbianism isn't explicitly stated or mentioned in Yurikuma, these bits of information also give additional meaning to the concept of invisibility in the show. Not everything in the show is specifically all about lesbians, and many of its themes and ideas can be generalized. However, generalizing while ignoring the thing you're generalizing from is more than a little ridiculous. Yurikuma is about lesbians, even though it doesn't ever explicitly state it. You can (and probably should!) generalize much of what the show has to say regarding the issues lesbians deal with, but the characters in the show who are dealing with these issues are undeniably lesbians, and you can't ignore that while at the same time generalizing the issues they're dealing with. |
SejinMar 25, 2015 1:30 PM
"We made it! . Gau!" Small-size image: http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/ssVPJ High-resolution 1280x1707p image: http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/ssVPJ Tweet: https://twitter.com/ikuni_noise/status/580851837269516289 |
okanaganMar 25, 2015 4:51 PM
| Sejin said: Some of the stuff Ikuhara's said about how he uses lesbians to represent "minority", and other things I've learned about how LGBTQ issues (and "unsavory" issues in general) are treated differently in a collectivistic society like Japan than in an individualistic one like the U.S., lead me to believe that one of the reasons lesbianism isn't mentioned or stated explicitly in Yurikuma is plausible deniability. Plausible deniability. That may well be it. Back in September 2013 when "Sakura Trick" (Jan 2014) was first announced, the approach was completely the opposite. It was made crystal clear that the series was a "Yuri anime" to the point that this was specified in the headlines. There was no room left for guessing games. Here are the news stories which I spotted which prominently include the phrase "Yuri anime" (百合アニメ): http://anicobin.ldblog.jp/archives/32917885.html http://otakomu.jp/archives/1480.html http://akamiru.com/2013/09/trick-tbs20141.html http://matomena.jp/link/20130914/882711/ http://www.logsoku.com/r/2ch.net/poverty/1379072569/ http://jin115.com/archives/51973799.html On the other hand, five other news stories (some of which, I get the impression, are in more prominent online anime magazines) never mentioned anything about Yuri: http://www.animate.tv/news/details.php?id=1379124618 http://animeanime.jp/article/2013/09/14/15553.html http://natalie.mu/comic/news/99432 http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2013/09/15/042/ https://akiba-souken.com/article/17583/ I can't find any evidence that there was ever an official press release which came out which specified by that the "genre" of the series was "Yuri". So it is possible that those various news sources simply assumed that "Sakura Trick" was a Yuri anime since it was based on a Yuri-genre manga. In certain cases, the producers of a series will announce in advance what the genre is, such as "Shirobako". So it looks possible that Animate.TV, Anime!Anime! and the others were practicing careful journalism by only reporting officially-announced facts. Here is the preview for "Sakura Trick": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEmjWvdKAqU I can see some hints in that preview, but I don't know how to tell whether a given piece of fiction is Yuri or not. These two lists classify "Sakura Trick" as follows: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_%28genre%29 Yuri as a central element https://yurination.wordpress.com/the-yuri-list/ Grade 1: Main Genre. Intensity: Medium/Overheat |
okanaganMar 25, 2015 7:08 PM
| Lulu Dx nooo... here i am hoping she just passed out @_@ So much symbolism, but it was really good at the end there. |
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| Lulu...! ...Yurizono and Ginko got shot, but still alive(?), even Yuriika and Kureha's mom seems to live in another form(?), so...there are still hope, right...? The judgement...still not knowing the result, maybe Kureha will become a bear while Ginko become a human... |
| Lulu, you won't be forgotten, gau~! |
| I don't want to believe that Lulu is really dead =/ |
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| This Japanese-language article came out an hour ago which is apparently somebody giving an in-depth review of the OP: http://kato19.blogspot.com/2015/03/yurikumaop.html |
| Well... that happened. Im sad to see Lulu go. I was hoping for a happy ending with all 3 girls. |
| Be sure to message me if you quoted me and want me to respond! Just give me a link to the forum, because usually I leave my comment, then leave the forum. |
| Damn you, Ikuhara! I should have expected this. The end of this episode wrecked me. Poor Lulu. And in the last episode thread I was hoping she would get a happy ending... |
| 今晩いよいよ最終回ガウ "This evening, at last, the final episode. Gau."  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBWHr95UQAEIhUj.jpg . . . . . . .Tweeted by Ikuhara at 9:33 pm Tokyo time: https://twitter.com/ikuni_noise/status/582520916342501376 - - - - - - - - - - The voice actress for Kureha tweeted out this handwritten letter. It seems to be kind of a thank-you letter as well as a look back at her impressions during the series:  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBW6avvUkAA1KQe.jpg https://twitter.com/ymnnzm/status/582576695594475520 Based on various things I have seen about her during the series, she seems to be a diligent and sincere person, so it is no surprise that she is making this kind of gesture. I can't remember seeing a cast member doing something like this before for any other series. As well, ever since the official Twitter account went off-line, she has been taking up a lot of the slack to communicate with fans and communicate essential information. For example, she was the one to tweet out the time that Episode 12 would air when the official Twitter account message did not make it entirely clear. Let's hope for good things in her future career. |
okanaganMar 30, 2015 9:33 AM
| Hmm, good episode, i'll just take this anime mostly literally. |
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| That song at the end made the ending really awkward O_O DEMM FEELS why T-T noooo |
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| Lulu... LULUUUUUUUUU ;-; |
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| NOT LULU, I MISS HERRRR |
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| Lulu kashikoi~ T_T |
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| How do a bunch of school girls acquire a laser of mass destruction and blow up the city using it without legal interference???? |
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NOOOOO!! LULUUU!!! NOOO!! |
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MargaM said: NOOOOO!! LULUUU!!! NOOO!! Why do all my ships have to die? ;-; |
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| you also ship to Kureha with Yuriika? XD (I hope nobody ships them) |
MargaMNov 5, 2016 4:44 AM
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| @MargaM I wanted Ginko to end up with Lulu (and Kureha with Sumika ;-;) But now that I've seen the ending I like KurehaxGinko a bit more Isn't KurehaxYuriika pedophilia? |
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