Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Part 2 Episode 5 Discussion

Yaggamy said:
Paul episode 5: You can't come home, write letters, or make any form of contact with your family for five years.
Paul episode 16: Why didn't you write???

Judevin said:
Ah yes, because when you go missing you shouldn't try to learn what happened at all!!! Of course that's how any reasonable person should do it! Just forget about all the problems that occurred, forget about your family!!! Of course how could I be so stupid holy shit. I should just forget about my family for 1.5 years, and not even try to contact them!!!! I shouldn't try to learn about the incident!!!! I shouldn't try ANYTHING AT ALL!!!!!!!

See how stupid that sounds? Paul thought the same.

zerokarasu said:


too bad ur entire argument is invalid just by 1 THING,rudeus is a SHUT IN,he is not NORMAL FUNCTIONAL ADULT,there u go,no need to go into more detail to counter ur entire post,want more?? fine

-rudeus from paul and other povs still a KID,doesnt matter if he is some kind of prodigy,they dont know he is formerly an adult.paul just throw his depression and guilt to rudeus,all he should do is just be grateful his son is alive,not be like "why dont u search for others".
-rudeus have any excuses to not think about his family,lets start with the obvious one,rudeus and eris in demon continent will not survive without ruijerd,so why thinking about family who he didnt see for YEARS is more priority than SURVIVAL??
-this one is even more for ur classic "RUDEUS IS AN ADULT",it doesnt matter how biased ur hate to rudy because how shit he is as person u cant deny the FACT that a problematic shut in with 0 social skills,common sense etc is not the same as normal adult thats why all of this problem showed up for rudy in the first place,if u think he should be like this and that,u watch the wrong show,watch mahouka,sao or those other TRASH show when the mc is perfect walking gary stu,rudeus is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE,thats why he act like a complete opposite.

NhtDesu said:


Well imo he saw Paul and Norn together so he think that his family had been found unlike Sylphy who lived far from them.

Harem_lover94 said:


I think being an actual adventurer requires way more skills and common sense than the useless shut in NEET he was, Rudy is a lot more than the person he was in his past life, he definitely SHOULD have contacted home knowing that Eris's father would have sent a LITERAL ARMY to help him once he knew their location. And the entire POINT of the journey is to get back home.

You can't say every single plot hole and bad writing is just "hurr durr he's a NEET so it's okay lolz"

Kobeanie said:
How the hell is Rudy in the wrong?! He's a child and he was teleported to a place he didn't know with the responsibility of not just keeping himself alive but Eris too. Of course his only thought would be getting home safely! Plus, how the hell was he supposed to know to find the others?! Paul is such an asshole!

Harem_lover94 said:
I don't know if I'm losing my mind but these people really don't know how to write a story.


>Rudy gets caught by the "kidnappers" because he's too excited over Panties, and now will lick panties even in a life and death situation, Rudy is strong at this point, but as we have seen so many times in the past, he's not good against an actual swordsman and HE KNOWS that, there's no reason for him to have such a cavalier attitude towards actual combat.

>>Rudy doesn't immediately ask his father about the family and why he looks like complete shit getting drunk so far away from home, roving around with a band. We understand that Rudy is not a normal 12 year old, but even a loser like him would have formed some attachment to his 2nd family. Especially since he drooled over them all the time anyway.

>Rudy couldn't recognize his old bully even though it had only been a year and a half since he had met him, nor is he able to recognize his father even though it really hasn't been that long.

>Rudy can't have a decent conversation with his own father, nor does he ask what the message was about immediately after he finds out that there was a message that he missed, and instead says "message?????" as if he is unaware that the concept of messages exist. Just for the sake of having a big reveal later, the conversation sounds stupid, like a bunch of AI robots talking. People are not this passionate in public settings, especially someone like Rudy, to start having a fight just because of silly misunderstandings, not to mention that Rudy doesn't recognize his father's figure, stance and fighting style despite spending YEARS being trained by him when he was attacked earlier.

>we are told that Rudy could have actually sent a letter in the last port but CHOSE not to do so, when the entire point of the journey at this point is to get home, we thought he had no way to communicate since he was on the demon continent but we were not told before now that he had the chance to send a letter and simply "forgets to send a letter", KNOWING that Eris is so important that AN ENTIRE ARMY would be sent to help him if he just sends a letter and STILL CHOOSES NOT TO GET IN TOUCH.

>The party is comfortable enough to leave each other and walk around alone, knowing that they almost always get into trouble when they do, which is also a problem when the entire team is so overpowered that they HAVE TO BE ALONE for something interesting to happen, but you can see that something wrong with happen from a mile off as the writers think of a reason to spread the party thin. But it makes for predictable writing where I'm always waiting for something to happen, instead of being introduced to situations naturally.

>His sister EXPLODED in growth in a year and a half. That did NOT look like a 2 year old child, or even a 3 year old. And there's no way she's older than that.

Harem_lover94 said:
I don't know if I'm losing my mind but these people really don't know how to write a story.


>Rudy gets caught by the "kidnappers" because he's too excited over Panties, and now will lick panties even in a life and death situation, Rudy is strong at this point, but as we have seen so many times in the past, he's not good against an actual swordsman and HE KNOWS that, there's no reason for him to have such a cavalier attitude towards actual combat.

>>Rudy doesn't immediately ask his father about the family and why he looks like complete shit getting drunk so far away from home, roving around with a band. We understand that Rudy is not a normal 12 year old, but even a loser like him would have formed some attachment to his 2nd family. Especially since he drooled over them all the time anyway.

>Rudy couldn't recognize his old bully even though it had only been a year and a half since he had met him, nor is he able to recognize his father even though it really hasn't been that long.

>Rudy can't have a decent conversation with his own father, nor does he ask what the message was about immediately after he finds out that there was a message that he missed, and instead says "message?????" as if he is unaware that the concept of messages exist. Just for the sake of having a big reveal later, the conversation sounds stupid, like a bunch of AI robots talking. People are not this passionate in public settings, especially someone like Rudy, to start having a fight just because of silly misunderstandings, not to mention that Rudy doesn't recognize his father's figure, stance and fighting style despite spending YEARS being trained by him when he was attacked earlier.

>we are told that Rudy could have actually sent a letter in the last port but CHOSE not to do so, when the entire point of the journey at this point is to get home, we thought he had no way to communicate since he was on the demon continent but we were not told before now that he had the chance to send a letter and simply "forgets to send a letter", KNOWING that Eris is so important that AN ENTIRE ARMY would be sent to help him if he just sends a letter and STILL CHOOSES NOT TO GET IN TOUCH.

>The party is comfortable enough to leave each other and walk around alone, knowing that they almost always get into trouble when they do, which is also a problem when the entire team is so overpowered that they HAVE TO BE ALONE for something interesting to happen, but you can see that something wrong with happen from a mile off as the writers think of a reason to spread the party thin. But it makes for predictable writing where I'm always waiting for something to happen, instead of being introduced to situations naturally.

>His sister EXPLODED in growth in a year and a half. That did NOT look like a 2 year old child, or even a 3 year old. And there's no way she's older than that.

Jesus, please, take a class on story writing. I'll pay for it. Send me your address and I'll enroll you into a writing class if you're someone who makes the anime.

eliecher said:
I don't know why people are saying that Philip would send an army for Eris. I did not get the impression that Eris's was that important to send an army for one person. I thought they could send at most a search party of 15 or so people. Also I got the feeling that Eris wasn't that important to Philip as he offered to tie her up and offer her to Rudeus in exchange for his help. So even if he could send an army, he would still send only a small part of soldiers.


Also, I would like to bring it to notice that communication will be painstakingly difficult and dangerous. As if Rudeus gives their location in a letter, they become a bit vulnerable as the letter may be intercepted. Even if communication is successful, its not like they will stay still at single place (ignore beast village thing as then delivering letters will also be impossible). Due to the propagation delay of the message, there will be huge confusions. I am not saying Rudeus thought of these points but I am saying these work in favour of his actions.

Yohanlie23 said:


I wanna add some opinion too
How come Rudy can send mail
When we can see how hard people crossing continent...
You must be very-very important person to get express mail delivered specialy for you from demon to human continent

This communication problem will be one of the obstacle on the future in WN when rudeus must giving information very fast

And its still in the same continent

Harem_lover94 said:
I don't know if I'm losing my mind but these people really don't know how to write a story.


>Rudy gets caught by the "kidnappers" because he's too excited over Panties, and now will lick panties even in a life and death situation, Rudy is strong at this point, but as we have seen so many times in the past, he's not good against an actual swordsman and HE KNOWS that, there's no reason for him to have such a cavalier attitude towards actual combat.

>>Rudy doesn't immediately ask his father about the family and why he looks like complete shit getting drunk so far away from home, roving around with a band. We understand that Rudy is not a normal 12 year old, but even a loser like him would have formed some attachment to his 2nd family. Especially since he drooled over them all the time anyway.

>Rudy couldn't recognize his old bully even though it had only been a year and a half since he had met him, nor is he able to recognize his father even though it really hasn't been that long.

>Rudy can't have a decent conversation with his own father, nor does he ask what the message was about immediately after he finds out that there was a message that he missed, and instead says "message?????" as if he is unaware that the concept of messages exist. Just for the sake of having a big reveal later, the conversation sounds stupid, like a bunch of AI robots talking. People are not this passionate in public settings, especially someone like Rudy, to start having a fight just because of silly misunderstandings, not to mention that Rudy doesn't recognize his father's figure, stance and fighting style despite spending YEARS being trained by him when he was attacked earlier.

>we are told that Rudy could have actually sent a letter in the last port but CHOSE not to do so, when the entire point of the journey at this point is to get home, we thought he had no way to communicate since he was on the demon continent but we were not told before now that he had the chance to send a letter and simply "forgets to send a letter", KNOWING that Eris is so important that AN ENTIRE ARMY would be sent to help him if he just sends a letter and STILL CHOOSES NOT TO GET IN TOUCH.

>The party is comfortable enough to leave each other and walk around alone, knowing that they almost always get into trouble when they do, which is also a problem when the entire team is so overpowered that they HAVE TO BE ALONE for something interesting to happen, but you can see that something wrong with happen from a mile off as the writers think of a reason to spread the party thin. But it makes for predictable writing where I'm always waiting for something to happen, instead of being introduced to situations naturally.

>His sister EXPLODED in growth in a year and a half. That did NOT look like a 2 year old child, or even a 3 year old. And there's no way she's older than that.

Jesus, please, take a class on story writing. I'll pay for it. Send me your address and I'll enroll you into a writing class if you're someone who makes the anime.

animejas said:


And just a very small thing on top of that, while Dead End was becoming a known name among the Adventurer's Guild (even Roxy knew about them from the first episode this season) when hearing about Eris and Ruijerd's names, Rudeus did not go by his own name, so Roxy and let's say other people like Paul who would go to those guilds, would not have heard about him either through there so no information can go back and forth even through just rumors through guilds about Rudeus himself. On top of how tough it actually was for Rudeus and Eris to survive the Demon Continent and how Ruijerd's help really kept them safe by the end, so communication via mail would not be easy to go through whatsoever, and he would not know where this should go at all.

NhtDesu said:

Again this guys didn’t notice any detail at all and claim the show didn’t metion bruh. 1 Years he stay with her and then 2 years at Eris house another 1 and a half when Rudy and Eris travelling so basically she nearly or over 5 years old now!!! smh

Jesus, please, You embarrassing yourself at this point. Try to be at least checking the fact before saying anything.

Komla_6 said:
i was wrapped in rudeus and eris getting back to civilisation that i totally forgot the consequences of the attack. things are becoming clearer

Ren-sama- said:
I was really surprised when Rudeus was more worried about Sylphy than he was worried about his own mother..

ZeroDown said:
I don't understand the crowd's complaint about Rudeus not being a eunuch.
For me it's more disgusting to have a cherry-boy character who does everything to avoid women like the usual characters in Japanese manga.
"Oh, but he's 40 years old" and by chance at 40, men become eunuchs? any man who could reset his body and bring his consciousness to that body would go out eating all the women in front of him, because he would know what actions he shouldn't do, and most of the relationships with girls you will only get for certain age. if you think that being older/experienced in life makes you a bad person that will harm others you have serious problems.
It would be more honest if you just told yourself "I don't like ugly guys hooking up with pretty girls, kill ugly guys." But don't blame it on age.

The guys talk like he's a rapist, since he's just shown the girls he likes that he's sexually interested and knowledgeable. After you acquire knowledge about sex, you will always be sex hungry, the difference is that he doesn't treat it as a bad thing.
Calm down with this false morality, flirting with girls is not a crime you are not compromising the integrity of their bodies, harassing and stalking girls who are crimes do not confuse the acts, he has never even touched a girl without their permission.

Paul is the alpha male you wanted Rudeus to be from noble family, athletic, and fucked all the women he knew before getting married . And does that make him a nice guy?
Regardless of whether he was an unemployed fat person, or an eater like Paul, I can't stand people complaining about his libido, it's very politically correct and I very much doubt that they wouldn't do the same thing he enjoyed since he was a child, having already known about sexuality.

Paul proves that your problems is not with Rudeus' libido, as he is the real guy who ate the most and harassed women in this tale.


And why are you complaining that he was a "loser"?
What is it to be a loser?
In japan it works like this "dad i'm being beaten at school" !fuck it's not my problem, japanese society decided that when you get beaten you have to keep your mouth shut until the aggressor gets tired of beating you."


If he was unemployed, the fault is also the family was not able to give him an adequate education guiding him through the adversities of the job market when he grew up. In other words, he had a shitty family, and that reality doesn't go away, that's why he didn't really care about that concept of family.

I feel sorry for people who are children of modern couples who throw their child into the world and put them in the government-controlled school and think that's right.

I live in a third world country, where a person with a normal job doesn't get enough to eat and have a house, or have an education, you can only choose one if you live alone.
And I know that in the first world people like that are called failures. Life is not an amusement park, there are people who are very lucky in life, and there are people who are just normal.
Stop complaining for the MC a normal person and not a gifted one.


But I know this is just your excuse, your real problem is that he was ugly fat and had the chance to get his life back on track knowing where he went wrong and knowing the lies they told him that led him to make wrong decisions by making good ones. decisions and you didn't have the chance and for you it's unforgivable.
But think about the following instead of being jealous of him, just see yourself in his place that the work will be much more enjoyable for yours.

Harem_lover94 said:


I completely admit that I forgot about the 2 years he spent teaching Eris, and that completely explains his grown up sister, but I don't think someone who has the training and the experience of an adventurer would forget what his father's shadow looks like, but I'll just leave that up the requirements of a story, the rest of my problems still stand, they were trapped in the beast village for 3 months (where he genuinely wasted time doing nothing but relaxing butt naked), but they were taken to the beast village from the port, or at least somewhere close to the port, they could have gone back to the port instead of to the city to get the letter out as soon as possible(it was probably closer given that Rudy just magically woke up in the Village after being knocked out and it took several days to get to the City), I understand letters reaching somewhere for sure is dicey, but you'd think SOMEONE STRANDED would show some serious emergency in letting people know where they are, and he has his pen in his mouth over the letter thinking "omg where do I BeGiN WrITING?", nor does he recognize the urgency of the situation and even forgiving that, the urgency of trying to find out anything about his family since they've been apart for so long, even if he doesn't know that they were teleported, I'm sure if you were lost on an island for a year and a half you would definitely try to know if your family is okay, not to mention HOW it was possible for him to take that long anyway, given that Roxxy was given employment as a wizard less competent than Rudy (granted she can use King level magic now) it boggles to mind how someone who is basically a walking talking nuclear bomb/tsunami generator couldn't find some way to get back home quickly leveraging his skills as a magician.

zerokarasu said:


ever heard of "self insert wish fullfilment story" aka what is TRASH ISEKAI about?? yeah ppl mad about this series because they cant self insert to this,the mc not a "bland 1 dimensional guy" or "perfect op gary stu" so they cant self insert to this series.

Harem_lover94 said:
I don't know if I'm losing my mind but these people really don't know how to write a story.


>Rudy gets caught by the "kidnappers" because he's too excited over Panties, and now will lick panties even in a life and death situation, Rudy is strong at this point, but as we have seen so many times in the past, he's not good against an actual swordsman and HE KNOWS that, there's no reason for him to have such a cavalier attitude towards actual combat.

>>Rudy doesn't immediately ask his father about the family and why he looks like complete shit getting drunk so far away from home, roving around with a band. We understand that Rudy is not a normal 12 year old, but even a loser like him would have formed some attachment to his 2nd family. Especially since he drooled over them all the time anyway.

>Rudy couldn't recognize his old bully even though it had only been a year and a half since he had met him, nor is he able to recognize his father even though it really hasn't been that long.

>Rudy can't have a decent conversation with his own father, nor does he ask what the message was about immediately after he finds out that there was a message that he missed, and instead says "message?????" as if he is unaware that the concept of messages exist. Just for the sake of having a big reveal later, the conversation sounds stupid, like a bunch of AI robots talking. People are not this passionate in public settings, especially someone like Rudy, to start having a fight just because of silly misunderstandings, not to mention that Rudy doesn't recognize his father's figure, stance and fighting style despite spending YEARS being trained by him when he was attacked earlier.

>we are told that Rudy could have actually sent a letter in the last port but CHOSE not to do so, when the entire point of the journey at this point is to get home, we thought he had no way to communicate since he was on the demon continent but we were not told before now that he had the chance to send a letter and simply "forgets to send a letter", KNOWING that Eris is so important that AN ENTIRE ARMY would be sent to help him if he just sends a letter and STILL CHOOSES NOT TO GET IN TOUCH.

>The party is comfortable enough to leave each other and walk around alone, knowing that they almost always get into trouble when they do, which is also a problem when the entire team is so overpowered that they HAVE TO BE ALONE for something interesting to happen, but you can see that something wrong with happen from a mile off as the writers think of a reason to spread the party thin. But it makes for predictable writing where I'm always waiting for something to happen, instead of being introduced to situations naturally.

>His sister EXPLODED in growth in a year and a half. That did NOT look like a 2 year old child, or even a 3 year old. And there's no way she's older than that.

Jesus, please, take a class on story writing. I'll pay for it. Send me your address and I'll enroll you into a writing class if you're someone who makes the anime.

Soupisekaitrash said:
I’m not a fan of this development, as much shit as ill give Rudy he did nothing wrong this time. His father doesn’t really consider his circumstances and seems ironically too self absorbed on his own. This a fucking kid and your asking him to do a search and rescue when he is stranded in the middle of a completely different continent trying to fend for himself he just wont have the time to consider factors he had no control of

Lacertoss said:


This. I'm really scared for people that actually think this is normal behavior for a person to have, let alone a parent, lol.

Considering everything we saw from Paul so far, including his attachment to his family, this is absolutely jarring and completely out of character as well.

Sigmar-Unberogen said:
I just can't... The show has such great potential, then Rudy jumps out licking panties over the head. Circus isekai, starring Rudy the clown.