Overlord II Episode 9 Discussion

joe_g7 said:
Nope, I'm not trolling you.
That's exactly what I do. I just write my opinion and that's it. Unless someone replies to me I don't bother with the rest of the comments unless its someone I know.
And as I said before, when they replied it was a mix of it'll get better or its world-building. That was during the Lizard arc (like you said). Once that cancer arc ended, I started somewhat enjoying the anime and my posts were either neutral or positive, so there were no passionate replies about my opinions. This is the first episode since the Lizards that I haven't enjoyed, and it's the first time I've gotten the "this is how Overlord is gonna be, deal with it" replies. That and various LN High Pricks thinking they're better than others cause they've read the source material. So once again, no, I have not been constantly warned that this is how Overlord would be.

I feel like saying the exact same thing to you, its like we're in a loop, just keep repeating ourselves again and again. Fuck this point.

Tamikus said:




the royal city is really important >.> lets see what happens , Ains wants the kingdom its obvious , thats why Sebas is there to collect information for him , Ains cant just storm head foward and hope for the best , remember what happend to Shaltear , what IF the Kingdom has worlditems too =? and if yes how strong are they , how many do they have , will the other Nations make a move when he Attacks the kingdom an so on >.> This was the Reason for the Lizardmen Arc , he wanted to see if they are already under the rule of another Nation and if yes how strong are they , thats for 2 Reasons Cocytus was not in the first battle , 1 Ains wanted to see if he can win not relying on brute force alone and 2 Have the Lizardmend some dangerous items and are supported by other Nations , This Arc is bulding up how he will conquer the Kingdom and thats why we see so many fricking people frome said Kingdom in that Arc , cuz they will BE Important later on >.>

Low_Ki said:

If anything I think the show is too decompressed.

MrFalkers said:
Well this has been some boring shit so far, feel like i'm watching some side show full of characters i don't care about, or that this anime is going for +25 episodes for season 2, so it's taking it's time going threw every little side characters & other various things that would matter in the long run. 9 eps in and its a 6/10 for me barely, very meh.

joe_g7 said:
That's exactly what I do. I just write my opinion and that's it. Unless someone replies to me I don't bother with the rest of the comments unless its someone I know.
And as I said before, when they replied it was a mix of it'll get better or its world-building. That was during the Lizard arc (like you said). Once that cancer arc ended, I started somewhat enjoying the anime and my posts were either neutral or positive, so there were no passionate replies about my opinions. This is the first episode since the Lizards that I haven't enjoyed, and it's the first time I've gotten the "this is how Overlord is gonna be, deal with it" replies. That and various LN High Pricks thinking they're better than others cause they've read the source material. So once again, no, I have not been constantly warned that this is how Overlord would be.

Demonneo said:
Consider yourself warned then :)
Plus, I just used your comments as an example to the overall replies regarding this issue. It's nothing against you in particular.

Regarding the lack of Nazarick, Madhouse removed almost all of the Sebas related action in this episode. It was not supposed to be all about Climb to begin with. In last episode they removed so many interesting stuff regarding that world's lore in the conversation between Evileye and Gargaran, it should be considered a crime. I dislike reading, otherwise i would just stick with the LN content instead since, like i said earlier, these type of anime adaptations are just bad overall. That's why when people see full adaptations (with quality animation) like Attack on Titan or Boku no Hero Academia, they praise it like crazy. It's a rare sight within the industry these days. At least regarding fantasy and action oriented shows.

What it matters for the industry are the LN sells.

KorudoKun said:
Renner was finally confirmed as a yandere ~

I'm satisfied ^_^ ~Explains Climbs weaker nature, he belongs to her, Yandere's tend to go for the weaker puppies o.o. I still think he could improve though, he has some kinda potential there, stubbornness can go a long way o.o.

Looking forward to Sabas most likely setting things straight next episode o.o.

Darklight0303 said:

No he can't. This isn't a shounen series. If not For Renner he'd already be long dead

Nordhammer said:

@Danpmss do not limit yourself to just the light novel. All the Blu-Ray specials & Drama CDs and etc are "source" material.

In particular the box 4 & box 6 of the Blu-ray & DVD Collection contain parts I&II of 'Overlord Prologue'.

dantex11 said:


Yeah! That is another good one! Thanks for reminding me ! :P :)

grikisinfo said:
I would like to see some more Ainz in episodes.

TrainLucifer said:


I bet a lot of people came to watch this season for some badass Ainz action

Daniel_Naumov said:

Which is a really low quality, little value stuff. Insecure adolescents want to see him dominate some other species, I get it, but advertising it over the forums "i don't see him stomping the rest of the world (where he would be stomped in kind if real deal appears) so this season SUXX! IT ACKHTUALLY SUXX" is shaming oneself. Which invokes pity alone.

Birdman08 said:


hmm not really, you'll gonna know if you try to read it

Antanaru said:
You can't defend everything by calling it world building. I actually enjoyed the latter part of lizzarmen arc when it was mixed with Nazarick but Royal City is plain boring. And it's not because there's no Ainz but because it's just really, really bland. You don't need so many episodes to show that some court members are corrupted or that capital has its dark underbelly (no shit). It's obvious enough. Another problem is Climb. Normally you should root for a character with values but he's so damn annoying I'm just waiting for him to die. Even Unglaus' broken spirit is more interesting than this little dipshit.

In short, it's just dragging on for too long. You don't need to hammer in obvious things. It's not much of a world building when the only difference from the real world is some RPG bullshit that could as well be waved aside as magic.

Antanaru said:
Or, you know, people prefer to watch Ainz et consortes because it's more interesting. Not because Nazarick can steamroll everything but because they found themselves in an alien environment, need to gather information, secure supply chains and settle in in general. What isn't is a fantasy world like every other you've seen myriad times.

I started reading the novel recently and even there I skim over most parts in the city not related to Nazarick. If I wanted to see some grim world building done better I would read some other novels like Witcher again. OL doesn't have much to offer in that regard so far and anime only makes it even worse. It does have Nazarick and problems it's facing but it's not making full use of it.

Demonneo said:


Nah... Remember Mahouka? People hating on the MC for stomping everyone and calling him Jesus and shiet. You just can't please everyone. I'm just happy that Overlord also focus on different stuff besides Ainz getting an harem and owning everyone.

Temuthril said:
This topic reeks of "to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Overlord..."

Antanaru said:
@Demonneo Well, I avoided Mahouka anime because I expected it to suck terribly. Novel wasn't half bad till incest bullshit got way out of hand.

I know it's all a build up but it's poorly executed. It's kind of like having someone show you how to fold a paper boat over and over again. You get it after 1st or 2nd time, any more and you will get bored and annoyed.

cidhazard said:
The men of the kingdom arc which consists of vol 5 and 6 respectively should've gotten at least two more episodes I feel. As one who've enjoyed the slow build up of the arc in the novels, the last few episodes felt so rushed that it's obvious that the director just opted to compress a large chunk of vol 5... This I feel, hurts Climb and Renner the most, since a large chunk of vol 5 is focused entirely on their relationship and Climbs development. The two of them are integral to future story lines and the failure of the anime to show climb as someone to root for is this seasons greatest disappointment for me.

Renners reveal as a Psychopath is handled well this episodes. With the only problem being the freaking ending spoiled it. Most people are calling her simply as a Yandere... while not entirely false, belies the true nature of her personality. She is a monster in mind and soul, Renner lacks any empathy to those around her, she really only cares about Climb... but in a sense that she wants to own him like a dog those feelings tho are just as strong as Albedo's love for Momonga. And with her intellect that could only be rivaled by Albedo and Demiurge, she is one of the most dangerous New worlder in overlord. I would argue tho that the Anime still didn't do the page justice, as the reveal of Renners true nature wasn't properly foreshadowed other than the aforementioned ED and a single exchange with Renners older brother and Marquis Ravel, heck the fact that they omited the fact that Renner was basically like an emotionless doll before she met climb kinda irked me a bit.

All the complaints on Overlord season 2 is warranted. Since The lizard man arc is a transitional arc and with the first half of The men in the Kingdom is a slow buildup for the thrilling second half, It could definitely be argued that most of the episodes are boring since both arcs just consists of world building and character development. However this could've easily been remedied by the director by making some adjustments and tweeks to the story or by giving the show more episodes to work with. Instead they settled on compressing 3 story arcs (With the men of the Kingdom arc arguably the most massive arc so far.) in a measly 13 episodes.

I've read the fan and official translations of Overlord and because of this my mind can simply connect some of the dots even without some of the missing pieces in the story. My ability to enjoy the story and intrigue of the show isn't hampered by the shows haphazard compression since I already know all the beats, and I am quite satisfied just seeing some of these characters and scenes I loved in the LN voiced and animated. But I imagine the season is probably unbearable to those who'm have not read the source material.

If you're planning on dropping the show while your already 9 episodes deep, I wouldn't stop you. But know that episode 9 is the end of Vol 5 and Vol 6 is the climax of the arc and is filled with a lot of meat. You'll see a lot of the denizens of Nazarick in action and Bluerose and most of the men in the kingdom. Not to mention that this does contain some of the story-lines payoffs. And who knows... one character might just surprise you.

To those who hate the second season of th anime and don't plan on reading some of the books. I would actually like to direct you to the Manga... as it does a better job adapting the LN.

Darklight0303 said:
LOL sorry but Climb was never someone to root for even in the novel. He's a fool who doesn't know his place and is blind to the simplest of truths

Demonneo said:


Of course it's poorly executed. Madhouse removed key plot points and awesome action moments from the Nazarick folks to fit everything in a mediocre, rushed and short 13 episode adaptation. That seems to be the major consensus here. It's like the new Berserk anime (but with better artwork), but luckily i'm still able to enjoy this regardless.

cidhazard said:
This I feel, hurts Climb and Renner the most, since a large chunk of vol 5 is focused entirely on their relationship and Climbs development. The two of them are integral to future story lines and the failure of the anime to show climb as someone to root for is this seasons greatest disappointment for me.

cidhazard said:
I've read the fan and official translations of Overlord and because of this my mind can simply connect some of the dots even without some of the missing pieces in the story

Shirasho said:


Good plan. I've learned that the Overlord manga readers in these forums are dumb as bricks and are not open to the possibility that the anime and manga are two completely separate pieces of media despite being about the same thing. They let their manga knowledge bleed into their minds and fool themselves into believing that anime viewers would have the same information.

Nordhammer said:
Question have you noticed any major changes between the English fan translation and the official English translation?I buy the Japanese release for the extra goodies,then read Nigel's translations. can not stand Yen Press' standard of keeping it's releases 4 years behind that of the Japanese releases.

Tamikus said:
yup

1st~3rd Floor: Grave Floor Guardian: Shalltear Bloodfallen

4th Floor: Underground Lake Floor Guardian: Gargantua

5th Floor: Glacier Floor Guardian: Cocytus

6th Floor: Jungle Floor Guardian: Aura Bella Fiora and Mare Bello Fiore

7th Floor: Lava Floor Guardian: Demiurge

8th Floor: Wilderness Floor Guardian: Victim

9th Floor: Royal Suite no Guardian

10th Floor: Throne Floor Guardian: Albedo

Treasury Area Guardian: Pandora's Actor

Tennouji said:
So that's why she's called a monster. She's a fucking yandere.