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Dec 1, 2016 3:47 AM

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She didn't react hard enough to La Pucelle's death actually. Her cry seemed almost forced, and it wasn't extensive breakdown. She cried like she lost a teddy bear she was attached to, not like she lost an actual friend or lover. Stopping from vomitting is hard as fuck when shit is real actually. If you're hit hard enough even with emotional trauma, sadness can make your esophagus feel like it's coming up your throat and make you dry-vomit if you got nothing to actually vomit. Innocence seeing something to a level of intensity irl, would surely make you vomit, regardless of memories.

Hence why i agree with what a friend of mine suggested:
GenesisAria said:
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A friend of mine suggested she may have had sociopathic psychopathy the whole time too. At with a quick scan over events that have happened so far, her reactions have been fairly weak, and if i remember right, the only times she really cried was when La Pucelle was there, in which she cried to get her(his) sympathy. I don't think she's shed a tear since. Pretty much all of the emotional actions i looked at were in contexts where they could have a purposeful (subconscious) motive that is not related to the actual emotions.

Ps: there's a difference between being a sane psychopath, and an insane psychopath. people like Snow White and Swim Swim would be sane psychopaths, however Calamity Mary and Cranberry are insane psychopaths.

It definitely makes the most sense, as it explains her general absentmindedness. And also that her helping the innocent people (and being able to walk away from it for periods of time as if she forgot) would be acts of upholding what she thinks are her morals, despite them being logical fabrications, as opposed to actual emotions. She cries when she subconsciously figures she ought to, she helps bystanders because she subconsciously thinks she must, she smiles when she subconsciously thinks it's good to. All of which being elements to help her try and fit in and be safe - originally she found La Pucelle to be her safety, now she's changing over to Hardgore Alice.

Oh ya, and when i talk about sociopathic psychopathy, i don't mean she's completely unemotional, it's possible to be partially impaired of emotions and morality, without being completely so. As shown, emotions would be vague and unimpactful: fleeting. And most of all, she doesn't realize she's different.
GenesisAriaDec 1, 2016 4:11 AM
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Dec 1, 2016 9:41 AM

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I thought it was worse than disappointing, it was downward insulting to Winterprison who sacrificed herself in order to save Nana. Nana's suicide makes Winterprison's death utterly useless, making it so she died for absolutely nothing. Truly infuriating.
Her decision was wise. She left the seemingly unsavable situation, and avoided further suffering (which from the usual japanese perspective, would also mean their deceased loved ones would have to watch it too - by leaving, she saves herself from suffering, and winterprison for having to see it as well).


I am sure Winterprison would be thrilled to know (and according to this 'Japanese perspective') actually see her lover hang herself. Yeah. Incidentally, death by hanging is extremely painful and if you want to bring a Japanese perspective into it, it's the means of execution and something seen fit for criminals. It is not a 'honorable' death in any sense.
I'm sorry, but no. Winterprison saved Nana's life, if Nana simply throws her life away she is in essence acting as if Winterprison's sacrifice was for naught.

As for the situation being unsavable, not necessarily so. At the very least Nana could have tried to help people like Snowhite and Alice did. And even if it was a hopeless situation, Nana could have gone down fighting. After all, Nana knew that there are magical girls who would still side with her, namely Snowhite.

I can understand that Nana has reached such a point of despair that she lost focus of all this, that is in essence what happens to suicidal individuals (it is often akin to tunnel vision) but there is no way to see it as the best choice.
Dec 1, 2016 11:08 AM

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Top Speed's death. This show is so cruel...
I feel like Swim Swim might take out one of her comrades if deemed necessary.
Dec 1, 2016 11:10 AM

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I just want to point out how absurd it is to Couch Psychoanalyses some Anime characters you have like, a fraction of a fraction of their life to go off of. Unless you're going to sit them down in your definitely very real doctors office, and actually make them take all of the tests a real psychoanalysis requires, it's an incredibly shallow way of looking at fictional characters.

Unless of course, you're actually just going on Wikipedia, looking at some Psychology traits, and going, "Yep, that lines up. Seems legit."

Planeptuner said:
Top Speed's death. This show is so cruel...
I feel like Swim Swim might take out one of her comrades if deemed necessary.


I half-expected her to just kill Tama, right then and there. :c.
Dec 1, 2016 11:45 AM

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Jesus that was heartbreaking!!!!
Dec 1, 2016 5:53 PM

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As for the situation being unsavable, not necessarily so. At the very least Nana could have tried to help people like Snowhite and Alice did. And even if it was a hopeless situation, Nana could have gone down fighting. After all, Nana knew that there are magical girls who would still side with her, namely Snowhite.
You have clearly not been paying attention to Snow White. She's not helping people out of moral correctness or righteousness or desire for goodness. She walks away from doing so more than once at various distractions, completely forgetting the situation, and her reactions to these situations are all so vague and weak that she can only have some serious psychological problems right now. She barely -if at all- actually grieved for La Pucelle. Either she is seriously in shock, or she was never not a sociopath, and all her actions are simply because she think she should, not because she believes it right. The only righteous side was that of Top Speed and Ripple. Snow White only wants one of 2 things: to be protected or to be rid of the situation. She still has no intention of saving the mahou shoujo.

Sociopathy (sociopathic psychopathy), is when your emotions, and connectivity to other people are psychologically impaired. People like this generally form themselves moral compasses which are best for fitting in, but are merely practical tools for a practical goal. Fitting in and being like the rest makes your life easier.

I can understand that Nana has reached such a point of despair that she lost focus of all this, that is in essence what happens to suicidal individuals (it is often akin to tunnel vision) but there is no way to see it as the best choice.
When a situation is factually as hopeless as your depression tells you, then it's not a bad choice. I didn't say it was the best choice, i said it was a wise choice.


neonie said:
I just want to point out how absurd it is to Couch Psychoanalyses some Anime characters you have like, a fraction of a fraction of their life to go off of. Unless you're going to sit them down in your definitely very real doctors office, and actually make them take all of the tests a real psychoanalysis requires, it's an incredibly shallow way of looking at fictional characters.
Unless of course, you're actually just going on Wikipedia, looking at some Psychology traits, and going, "Yep, that lines up. Seems legit."
I'm actually extremely familiar with human psychology be it normal, ideal (positive reinforcing), or criminal psychology. I give statements based on the most likely, and back it up with evidence.

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Top Speed's death. This show is so cruel...
I feel like Swim Swim might take out one of her comrades if deemed necessary.
I half-expected her to just kill Tama, right then and there. :c.
Swim Swim considers Tama to be a comrade, in the sense of family. Swim Swim is also sociopathic, and her compass was tuned to Ruler's actions and perspective, that includes taking care of her subjects despite tsundere. I've said before, Swim Swim is pretty smart, she's just naïve.
GenesisAriaDec 1, 2016 6:04 PM
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GenesisAria said:
I'm actually extremely familiar with human psychology be it normal, ideal (positive reinforcing), or criminal psychology. I give statements based on the most likely, and back it up with evidence.



I really hope you realize, that if you know anything about psychology, that actually makes it worse that you're trying to psychoanalyses fictional characters.

They aren't written to be examined in that way. You're literally just transposing the view of the character you want to have on the characters the author's written.

It's insulting, not only to the author, but to Psychology as a whole, that you think you can get anything of value out of incredibly meager amount of time we see these characters on screen. You're belittling he entire process that goes into a real form of study.
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Dec 1, 2016 7:58 PM

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WELL THAT WENT ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. But pretty good at the same time, lost a couple of the bad guys, but then we lost some of the good guys, including the best girl, so ultimately, the losses were far greater. I'm not happy, but this episode was pretty good.

Only thing is, when Calamity Mary died, I felt it was off, like it shouldn't have been that easy, nice to know that wasn't actually how she went down. Would have preferred seeing her true death animated though.
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GenesisAria said:
I'm actually extremely familiar with human psychology be it normal, ideal (positive reinforcing), or criminal psychology. I give statements based on the most likely, and back it up with evidence.



I really hope you realize, that if you know anything about psychology, that actually makes it worse that you're trying to psychoanalyses fictional characters.

They aren't written to be examined in that way. You're literally just transposing the view of the character you want to have on the characters the author's written.

It's insulting, not only to the author, but to Psychology as a whole, that you think you can get anything of value out of incredibly meager amount of time we see these characters on screen. You are making a joke out of the entire process that goes into a real form of study.


Okay, I'm reading what your saying but, what if, by chance, maybe, things were specifically put in place to hint towards these characters mental states, and your just missing something. Believe it or not, sometimes things like that are done without making it extremely apparent that something might be up. Sometimes things are done very subtly. Now I'm not saying your wrong, but there is a chance, and unless your an expert in psychology as well, you have some sort of proof, or you know exactly how the characters were written yourself, you can't exactly say they aren't written that way.
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Dec 1, 2016 8:13 PM

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Okay, I'm reading what your saying but, what if, by chance, maybe, things were specifically put in place to hint towards these characters mental states, and your just missing something. Believe it or not, sometimes things like that are done without making it extremely apparent that something might be up. Sometimes things are done very subtly. Now I'm not saying your wrong, but there is a chance, and unless your an expert in psychology as well, you have some sort of proof, or you know exactly how the characters were written yourself, you can't exactly say they aren't written that way.


Nothing at all in the show it self has hinted at anything like that. The show makes it very clear it's not looking for you to psychoanalyses the characters. It shows you relevant things from their lives, and their past, and establishes motivation, but fictional characters, more often than not, are not written so straight forward as to be able to connected to a real psychological profile.

Author's need their characters to behave, act or do things a certain way that wouldn't line up with the way a person would actually behave in that situation.

You, as the viewer, as not supposed to take this to mean, "Oh, they must be mentally fucked." You're supposed to exhibit suspension of disbelief and go along with it, or else not do that and go, "Well, I just can't accept this, guess the show lost me."

There are some shows or mediums that do, like you say, try to bring psychology into their narrative in some ways. (The Black Rock Shooter T.V. Series comes to mind.) But even then, you can't actually place real analysis on characters that you have such a small portion of their lives shown to you.

There's a huge amount of these characters lives as people missing from the amount of information we have on them, and the idea that you can somehow form coherent profile on their mental state is ludicrous.
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neonie said:
GenesisAria said:
I'm actually extremely familiar with human psychology be it normal, ideal (positive reinforcing), or criminal psychology. I give statements based on the most likely, and back it up with evidence.



I really hope you realize, that if you know anything about psychology, that actually makes it worse that you're trying to psychoanalyses fictional characters.

They aren't written to be examined in that way. You're literally just transposing the view of the character you want to have on the characters the author's written.

It's insulting, not only to the author, but to Psychology as a whole, that you think you can get anything of value out of incredibly meager amount of time we see these characters on screen. You're belittling he entire process that goes into a real form of study.

Uh, when an author writes a story with characters having psychological issues, they design them that way on purpose. Psychoanalysis is to potentially identify either what the author consciously intended or subconsciously created.

Your grounds for refuting me on assuming analyzing fictitious characters doesn't work, invalidates your argument, and proves your lack of comprehension.

@DuoraDoll
I did specify numerous examples. If anyone wants to deconstruct my argument based on insufficient study or denial to study, then that's their own hypocrisy. I got tired of having to supply countless specific details, in which people choose to ignore anyways. I could address every single scene that Snow White is in, and find evidence to suggest she is sociopathic in every one. Anyone arguing against it is really unfamiliar with how sociopathy works. The evidence is there, the facts add up. I never said she was for certain on, i said it's most likely. There is more evidence to support that than contrary.

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Something you guys clearly don't comprehend, is that japanese story writers don't take psychology lightly. They study the fuck out of it. It takes a knowledgeable person to spot the knowledge applied. And i don't mean academic know-how and trivia, i mean the mechanics of it in real life situations. It's why things you can tell are, for example, clearly trying to pull your heart strings, and yet do it anyways despite you knowing it's trying to - it's because they know how it works, and make it work on even the wisest of people. (Ofc it doesn't work on people who just have minimal comprehension of situation other than practical - anime is made for emotional humans, not western desensitized robots)

@neonie
Every element in this show, as far as how characters react, decisions they make, etc, has all been accurate to their psychological portrayals. Whether or not the author intended watchers to figure out the character's troubles or not, they applied the knowledge of these troubles in order to make the characters and circumstances believable, thus suspending disbelief of the magical circumstances which motivate the plot. I'm a studier of fiction and a writer of fiction, of much higher calibre in complexity and knowledge than mid-range stories like this. Catching on the structure and pattern of something as simple as this is a walk in the park. Defend your impression of anime/art all you want, it's not going to change the facts of what people put into stories to make them good and not weak, cheesy and unnatural.

No Battle Royale is any good without psychological trauma and drama; that's the entire point. This isn't a fucking slasher just to kill characters for fun.

I study what makes art art, and not just twisted masturbation. It's the passion and emotions put into it and delivered, that make it.
There is the matter of profitable production that at times contrasts and weakens the art in a creation, though sometimes it bolsters it.

Ps: i never said i wanted Snow White to be a sociopath. If you saw any of my earlier episode posts, i was talking about how i idealistically hoped for her to save a bunch of people with unstoppable goodness like a Madoka or Nanoha. Snow White is not one of these overpowered optimists, and i can see that now. Her apathy is very plain to see.

Japanese do not have a habit of making unintentional character depth. Like any sufficient self-study, you tend to have the know-how, but not necessarily the jargon to define it to an educated person.
GenesisAriaDec 1, 2016 9:01 PM
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Dec 1, 2016 9:50 PM

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Nice Battle between ripple and mary...

The first time top speed use her real ability, but so fast she dead too..
Lets see how ripple will revenge her.

Poor Nana for suicide herself, why she don't use her ability to payback winterprison death..

I wonder how to kill swimswim since no weapon can touch her body...
Dec 3, 2016 10:27 AM

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Kinda disappointed with the battle between Ripple and Mary tbh :( Kind of a lame way for her to die ... she just randomly got hit with a shuriken? >_< Swim came in later and killed Top Speed though, and I guess now we know why she needed to last another 6 months. Seems like Swim's diving ability is pretty useful in battle too, allowing things to pass by her. I wonder how Snow White was able to detect the other girls' thoughts? Hmm ... well either way, looks like the other angel disguised herself as Alice's stuffed bunny so maybe she wants to target her? Going after Cranberry's probably a bad idea for Swim's group :P I didn't expect Nana to kill herself either! Plus now that they have to cut down to 4, looks like anything can happen ... hmm, I wonder who'll end up surviving? :P
Dec 3, 2016 2:35 PM

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Kinda disappointed with the battle between Ripple and Mary tbh :( Kind of a lame way for her to die ... she just randomly got hit with a shuriken? >_< Swim came in later and killed Top Speed though, and I guess now we know why she needed to last another 6 months. Seems like Swim's diving ability is pretty useful in battle too, allowing things to pass by her. I wonder how Snow White was able to detect the other girls' thoughts? Hmm ... well either way, looks like the other angel disguised herself as Alice's stuffed bunny so maybe she wants to target her? Going after Cranberry's probably a bad idea for Swim's group :P I didn't expect Nana to kill herself either! Plus now that they have to cut down to 4, looks like anything can happen ... hmm, I wonder who'll end up surviving? :P

The kill moment may actually be changed in the BD version, because that's not how she dies in canon material, she dies from glass shards ( Ripple throw a glass window or somethign like thatn aiming at at her heart, and Mary shots the glass, which makes every single glass shard homing at her and actually kills her (she completely ignored the shards as she thought they would be harmless (because magical girl are resistant to damage) but that was magically powered up shards. She realized her mistake when the shards started to penetrate her skin, continuign toward the heart.
That may be too gruesome for the tv release, not even accounting that this may have been too much to animate as they were clearly out of time with the animation in that episode.
Dec 3, 2016 7:25 PM

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Yay, Ripple survived!

I knew Top Speed was pregnant. Swim just popped outta nowhere with the killshot. Her water magic revealed!
Dec 3, 2016 9:17 PM

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Oh My God! this episode has the most kill count!
first is Calamity Mary, 2nd Top Speed and 3rd Sister Nana who went suicide!
Swim Swim is a real black reaper! She's the reason why Ruler's death, winterprison was killed by her and even top speed! DAMN!
Calamity Mary got brutally headshot by Ripple's glass distraction!
poor pregnant Top Speed, just got brutally back-stabbed by SwimSwim.
If Show White is not with Hardgore Alice she's goners head axed by Minael!
Even with that 25 year expensive cloaking robe, Tama still being useless!
Snow White's thought reading abilities is quite convenient and handy in some ways.
I think Minael has a way to kill Hardgore Alice? (because if we noticed, Minael disguised herself as the stuffed toy that Alice always carry?)
Things are getting pretty out of hand!
The extreme depression of Sister Nana decides to just end her life by hanging her self. This is just so sad!
Swim Swim is a bit calculative but we cannot forgive you because you already have the highest kill streak!
For sure Swim Swim would underestimate Cranberry cuz she's like the most powerful of all Mahou Shoujo just 2nd to Hardgore Alice.
5/5!
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Kinda disappointed with the battle between Ripple and Mary tbh :( Kind of a lame way for her to die ... she just randomly got hit with a shuriken? >_< Swim came in later and killed Top Speed though, and I guess now we know why she needed to last another 6 months. Seems like Swim's diving ability is pretty useful in battle too, allowing things to pass by her. I wonder how Snow White was able to detect the other girls' thoughts? Hmm ... well either way, looks like the other angel disguised herself as Alice's stuffed bunny so maybe she wants to target her? Going after Cranberry's probably a bad idea for Swim's group :P I didn't expect Nana to kill herself either! Plus now that they have to cut down to 4, looks like anything can happen ... hmm, I wonder who'll end up surviving? :P

The kill moment may actually be changed in the BD version, because that's not how she dies in canon material, she dies from glass shards ( Ripple throw a glass window or somethign like thatn aiming at at her heart, and Mary shots the glass, which makes every single glass shard homing at her and actually kills her (she completely ignored the shards as she thought they would be harmless (because magical girl are resistant to damage) but that was magically powered up shards. She realized her mistake when the shards started to penetrate her skin, continuign toward the heart.
That may be too gruesome for the tv release, not even accounting that this may have been too much to animate as they were clearly out of time with the animation in that episode.

here we go again, another shit change. Are there other instances of this so far? I doubt they'll fix that in the BD as it's not an animation error.
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The kill moment may actually be changed in the BD version, because that's not how she dies in canon material, she dies from glass shards ( Ripple throw a glass window or somethign like thatn aiming at at her heart, and Mary shots the glass, which makes every single glass shard homing at her and actually kills her (she completely ignored the shards as she thought they would be harmless (because magical girl are resistant to damage) but that was magically powered up shards. She realized her mistake when the shards started to penetrate her skin, continuign toward the heart.
That may be too gruesome for the tv release, not even accounting that this may have been too much to animate as they were clearly out of time with the animation in that episode.

here we go again, another shit change. Are there other instances of this so far? I doubt they'll fix that in the BD as it's not an animation error.

About the way peoples die you mean, here and there, I guess. IIRC winderprison didn't got just her arm cut off and that's not the way the angel died either against her, for example. Those are details though, the way they animated it works. For Mary it's kind of an animation shortcut (as a single shuriken is easier to animate than a myriad of shards hitting her), an animation was lacking that episode, so that's a possibility imo.
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I'm a bit disappointed Fav is prolonging the survival game. I was hoping we'd move onto a new arc, now that the sufficient number of girls have died, maybe see Fav let monsters loose into the city or something like that. Oh well, the show still has my attention, so I guess we'll see where it goes from here.

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Oh no. Please don't tell me that's a death flag for Alice... >.>
I'd say it was more a death flag for Minael, since Alice is pretty much Perfect Cell in Magical Girl form, and we still don't know her motivations.
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I'm a bit disappointed Fav is prolonging the survival game. I was hoping we'd move onto a new arc, now that the sufficient number of girls have died, maybe see Fav let monsters loose into the city or something like that. Oh well, the show still has my attention, so I guess we'll see where it goes from here.

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Oh no. Please don't tell me that's a death flag for Alice... >.>
I'd say it was more a death flag for Minael, since Alice is pretty much Perfect Cell in Magical Girl form, and we still don't know her motivations.
The "new arc" would require 12 episodes by itself (it's longer than the first arc so even compressing it would still require that long) , so that's not happening ^^".
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Zefyris said:
qwertyMrJINX said:
I'm a bit disappointed Fav is prolonging the survival game. I was hoping we'd move onto a new arc, now that the sufficient number of girls have died, maybe see Fav let monsters loose into the city or something like that. Oh well, the show still has my attention, so I guess we'll see where it goes from here.
The "new arc" would require 12 episodes by itself (it's longer than the first arc so even compressing it would still require that long) , so that's not happening ^^".
Good to know! Hopefully we don't get left hanging like with Rokka... no offense.
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Everyone keeps dying, I can't handle it >.<
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qwertyMrJINX said:
Zefyris said:
The "new arc" would require 12 episodes by itself (it's longer than the first arc so even compressing it would still require that long) , so that's not happening ^^".
Good to know! Hopefully we don't get left hanging like with Rokka... no offense.

There's no offence here. But what doesn't sell doesn't get second season, usually. So it all depends on the sales. Doesn't seem good so far. Maybe a bit better than what Rokka did, but that's about it.
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Zefyris said:
qwertyMrJINX said:
Good to know! Hopefully we don't get left hanging like with Rokka... no offense.

There's no offence here. But what doesn't sell doesn't get second season, usually. So it all depends on the sales. Doesn't seem good so far. Maybe a bit better than what Rokka did, but that's about it.

I'm actually okay with being left hanging like with Rokka no Yuusha, since I liked it from beginning to end. It's much better to leave it unfinished waiting for a second season instead of changing the story of the light novel.
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Welp, all my favorites are dead, so I guess it's just the countdown at this point.

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Dec 13, 2016 11:19 AM

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I was so happy Mary was out of the game, but Swim Swim got all my hate now! Poor Top Speed, she was really pregnant =/
Dec 14, 2016 3:25 AM

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Welp, looks like we're not getting a Yandere Nana then...

Anyway onto the best part:


RIP Top Speed..
May you join with your child in an eternal peaceful life.

Also,fuck Swim.

EDIT: DAMN IT,Zombie girl should've fucking killed the twin and now shet, they know her weakness...
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Lol, just lol. I take back my words about the death of Nemu, this episode just left me with a huge WTF? on the face. And Sister Nana... I have no words.

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I was so happy Mary was out of the game, but Swim Swim got all my hate now! Poor Top Speed, she was really pregnant =/


On it was doubly weirdly llooking, realizing that they are playing Minase and Inoue.
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Damn, that was intense!

Death toll:


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Dec 20, 2016 2:48 AM

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Nana killed herself. Called it.
Bury Your Gays was completely effective.

Shame for Top Speed, I liked her
Dec 20, 2016 1:22 PM

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Calamity Mary's gone, sheesh. Shit's brutal when Swim killed Top Speed, now we wondered why 6 months was mentioned earlier... Now Alice is killable...?
Dec 29, 2016 11:33 AM

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no not Top Speed nooooooo and she was pregnant too nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Jan 1, 2017 9:43 PM
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What depressing ep, 3 chars died (best wife TopSpeed, Mary, Nana).
Mary lol joke death? I haven't seen that manga death but this is better tactics, using glass as wide area diversion, prevents Mary from dodging, and the real attack is Ripple's main weapon shuriken. It really maximized Ripple's (& Topspeed support) ninja character. Also it's typically a more herolike kill to not be brutal to enemies. Feel Ripple gets an anti-desuflag this ep.
Twin very cunning so far, switched Alice's bunny into invisible cloak, to track down Alice's home, as she's not immortal irl. Twins talk like retards but as college students plan far ahead.
Swim shows even more cold & calculating side. Pon wants 4 to remain, so Swim thinks of 3 to dispose of (2 in her group possibly, & 1 outside which was Cranberry until Twin implies Alice). The whole Ruler group is quite tactical how they combine abilities & "pay2win" items.
Jan 6, 2017 11:18 AM

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Damn, I hate almost every character. I hope Cranberry will kill at least someone from Swim-Swim gang..
Snow White is useless.
Jan 11, 2017 5:26 AM

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Wow I feel so bad for Top Speed.
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Jan 16, 2017 7:32 PM

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LOL fuck the remaining side characters. Swim Swim is a bitch, Minael is a bitch, and "pon pon pon" when will you fucking STOP with that shit you goddamn raisin?

I can stand to hate a proper villain but all of the above are straight-up dick.
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Jan 26, 2017 3:18 AM

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It's a good thing Calamity Mary died, she's more like villain than Magical Girl.

Poor Top Speed, such a cute wife, I feel bad for her. the writer has a horrible taste, letting a pregnant women who did nothing wrong killed miserable.

Swim Swim become more dangerous, I thought she's good for nothing because her ability to swim through land, but after I see her in action, it's a dangerous ability when she can turn her body into water to avoid projectile.

I sense a death flag coming to Alice, she's my fav too, but it's too bad she's going to die in the next episode. such a waste, she can match Cranberry in a fight.
Mar 19, 2017 4:32 AM

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Finally, Mary is dead. Damn psychotic bitch.

It's sad, that Top Speed died too. Swim Swim caused two more deaths. She needs to die asap.
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May 19, 2017 12:39 PM

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YES THEY DEFEATED CALAMITY MARY GO RIPPLE AND TOP SPEED!! But then freaking Swim-Swim has to go and kill Top Speed, now I really don't like her >:(


Wasn't surprised about the new rule, it was bound to be brought up eventually. I don't want Snow White, Ripple, or Hardgore Alice to die, and I don't really care about the others, except I want Cranberry and Swim-Swim to lose
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Aug 10, 2017 3:02 PM
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Zetsubo667 said:
She got alot of likes after episode 4, but I wonder how many people are still gonna like Swim Swim after this episode?


I hated her for killing Ruler tbh, and I hated it even more the retarded way Top Speed dies, that is what I call bullshit, I hope Cranberry gets some nice revengeance now.
Alot of deaths this episode too, Mary aside, I dont like how some girls here think, they switched gears too fast, and now it is soo easy to murder eachother, just like that, especially the angels... Swim Swim a child moved by pure logic and devoid of emotions, which is kinda dangerous.
Aug 13, 2017 12:10 PM

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No Tsubame / Top Speed T_T please let swim swim and her group just run into Cranberry/their death for what they did to her...
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Sep 25, 2017 4:56 PM

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This series is really getting quite wack! Pretty impressive development.
Dec 6, 2017 9:48 AM

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I knew that Top Speed was pregnant from the moment she said that she didn't want to die for "at least another 6 months". Yet another reason to want Swim Swim dead.
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Mar 5, 2018 7:39 AM

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RIP Top Speed, she was one I quite liked. I wasn't expecting Nana to kill herself but then again I can't see how her powers would help with anything.
Oct 8, 2018 10:07 PM
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Damn what an episode, shit's going down real fast
Apr 23, 2019 3:36 AM

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Gdammit Swim Swim... it's not even about candies anymore... she's straight up murdering people with no remorse. I'm sure there's a reason she doesnt feel anything when she kills... maybe a tragic backstory... if/when they decide to give her one.

If she decides to attack Cranberry and win I will be very surprised.
Aug 21, 2019 1:14 AM

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Can we get an F in the chat for Calamity Mary, Top Speed, and Sister Nana?
Apr 19, 2021 8:24 AM

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amazing fight scene on Ripple vs. Mary, there's so much action feel to it. Swim's power isn't just diving into the ground.. her body turns to water when hit - this kind of defense reminds me of logia devil fruit power in One Piece anime and makes her really hard to kill. Ripple is lucky that Swim-chan retreated from the fight.

well, Nana hang herself with the scarf. Glad the scarf did not go to waste, it was useful.
I like how they were consistent with Nana's weak personality, she cry every time a fight breaks out. She isn't suited for any kind of magical girl show, because even in Cardcaptor Sakura, she would be crying every time an enemy attack. lol

and lastly, Snow white is lucky she managed to get a second person to white knight for her.. first La Pucelle, now Alice is her protector. Although I worry that Alice would be in trouble next episode.><
Jun 24, 2021 12:28 AM
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Brutal episode again.

I didn't like the way how Calamity Mary died. It was pretty lame.
Apr 4, 2022 2:02 PM

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fight between mary n ripple was the best action sequence we’ve seen all series and then it degrades again after 3 minutes... guess they spent thier entire budget on that scene.

watching shitty series really makes me appreciate the animation of well acclaimed shows.
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