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Jan 9, 2010 5:13 PM

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I have a high expectations for this series, and it is likely better than Higurashi. It was a very interesting start, and it has nice character designs.
Jan 9, 2010 5:31 PM
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Isuzu is annoying as fuck and reminds me of Yuka from 11eyes, she needs to die fast.


Haha ya, I didn't notice it at first but now that you mention it, the two of them do share some similarities. Now these boards are gonna turn into flame wars between Isuzu fans and haters just like the 11eyes boards. Can't wait.
Jan 9, 2010 6:30 PM

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This looks like something I'll drop. nothing really special or redeemable besides the costume of...I guess it's called Ookamikakushi? I don't know.

That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Jan 9, 2010 8:00 PM

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noteDhero said:
This looks like something I'll drop. nothing really special or redeemable besides the costume of...I guess it's called Ookamikakushi? I don't know.

That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?


guess we'll have to find out
Jan 9, 2010 8:04 PM

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noteDhero said:

That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?

Probably for some sinister plot we don't know about. The fact that the place is so perfect is grade-A suspicion.
Jan 9, 2010 8:04 PM

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noteDhero said:

That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?


Well, they made it pretty obvious that everyone's behavior was supposed to be weird, of course. What is actually going on, I don't know. A few people have come up with a couple of interesting ideas in this thread.
Jan 9, 2010 8:34 PM

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My guess is (and I haven't bothered looking at the thread itself, since it's 11 pages long and the first post started with "It's two days before the show starts, so let's discuss the episode) something along the lines of people being werewolves, and the more aggressive they become toward each other means something and they need to be killed by what's her face. Probably some curse, etc. Given the recent hype over werewolves, though, I just don't care.
Jan 9, 2010 8:45 PM

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Well that was completely unimpressive >_<

It feels like I'm watching that crap festival Umineko all over again.
Jan 9, 2010 8:49 PM
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GarLogan78 said:
Every year, on the night of the Watanagashi Hassaku festival, people will die.


ROFL, yeh my thoughts exactly.

Maybe they beat them to death with oranges o.O
Jan 9, 2010 9:20 PM

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uhg. curfew at 7:00 pm for those guys.

and lol colonel sanders.

If they start repeating the same time frame over and over I might get pissed.
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Jan 9, 2010 9:36 PM

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blahrgness said:


If they start repeating the same time frame over and over I might get pissed.


From what I've heard, it won't be like that.
Jan 9, 2010 9:52 PM

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hirahira said:
blahrgness said:


If they start repeating the same time frame over and over I might get pissed.


From what I've heard, it won't be like that.

I'm interested in how that detail will play out. I'm hoping this series won't finish as being a "copycat" to Higurashi, and this point piques my interest as to how the story will play out either way.
Jan 10, 2010 12:37 AM

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noteDhero said:
This looks like something I'll drop. nothing really special or redeemable besides the costume of...I guess it's called Ookamikakushi? I don't know.

That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?


^ I LOL'd. Especially the 2nd phrase ;D



If he's not with us, he's AGAINST us!!!

Jan 10, 2010 1:41 AM

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noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?


He smells delicious :D.
Jan 10, 2010 4:01 AM

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DeathfireD said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?


He smells delicious :D.

It is nice to see you watch this DeathfireD, will be interesting to see your view on how it goes since this is a mystery kind of anime. Also I wish noteDhero would join you and stay here to comment. you 2 are great comments people. Personally just like a theory was presented earlier all are wolves and if they go out after 8pm the moons will curse into insane ones even at school. Noticed how suspicious Ogasawara was at one point with Hiroshi.
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noteDhero said:

That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?

Probably for some sinister plot we don't know about. The fact that the place is so perfect is grade-A suspicion.
Exactly and about this part as a failed GIF in one way
Isuzu will not die....love will make things change suddenly...I am sure or hope so. Oh yeah.....is not Isuzu such a tease here?=> Hiroshi should not be this shy around such a situation.

In spoiler my anime list for now.
Jan 10, 2010 4:12 AM

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noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD

GarLogan78 said:
Every year, on the night of the Watanagashi Hassaku festival, people will die.
XD, this made me laugh so hard...
Jan 10, 2010 4:34 AM

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Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?

In spoiler my anime list for now.
Jan 10, 2010 5:07 AM
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sucked :|
Jan 10, 2010 5:21 AM

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francismeunier said:
Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?
And what the heck are you on about now francis? o.O
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Jan 10, 2010 6:54 AM

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Oosran said:
francismeunier said:
Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?
And what the heck are you on about now francis? o.O
Or maybe he is a delicious food (meat of course) for a pack of wolves.
Imagine 3/4 of the residents there are wolves, and your classmates are also wolves.
. . .
Now I'm thinking about the new and old town. What if the people living in the old town are full of wolves while the people living in the old town is trying to eliminate the wolves in the new town. In that case, that girl who slays wolves is living in the old town.

BTW:
Dropped Isuzu, she has a pontential of being a yandare.
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Jan 10, 2010 7:35 AM

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This feels mediocre, plain. Except for the CG wheelchair, that was ugly.

A new season of 11eyes? So it seems.
Jan 10, 2010 8:47 AM

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Oosran said:
francismeunier said:
Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?
And what the heck are you on about now francis? o.O

What else? Nonsense as usual...

noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?

Part of the mystery my friend.

GarLogan78 said:
Every year, on the night of the Watanagashi Hassaku festival, people will die.

Lol. It does give off a Higurashi atmosphere.
Jan 10, 2010 11:22 AM

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Oosran said:
francismeunier said:
Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?
And what the heck are you on about now francis? o.O
It's a metaphor that might be said wrong. Saying that Nemuru is protecting Hiroshi from the bad people but how long will it last until Hiroshi might become a wolf himself or will he be the cure to all of this problem? Can he even make this whole curse gone somehow?
magnum said:
Oosran said:
francismeunier said:
Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?
And what the heck are you on about now francis? o.O
Or maybe he is a delicious food (meat of course) for a pack of wolves.
Imagine 3/4 of the residents there are wolves, and your classmates are also wolves.
. . .
Now I'm thinking about the new and old town. What if the people living in the old town are full of wolves while the people living in the old town is trying to eliminate the wolves in the new town. In that case, that girl who slays wolves is living in the old town.

BTW:
Dropped Isuzu, she has a pontential of being a yandare.

That's interesting you mention that Nemuru might be living in the old town because her ways are quite different from the others. I am also thinking greed can be another cause for crazy wolf out of control of these new town people the way you mention things in your comments. Interesting thinking to see how story progresses....
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Oosran said:
francismeunier said:
Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?
And what the heck are you on about now francis? o.O

What else? Nonsense as usual...
No it's nonsense it hypothetical thinking since this is a first episode why not? After all the wait for next episode is long for some......

In spoiler my anime list for now.
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Day2Dream said:
Oosran said:
francismeunier said:
Linalee-Stratos said:
noteDhero said:
That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?
Maybe his gender seems mysterious..XD
I am telling all that it's a delicious sheep that has protection from the Shepherd Nemuru but for how long it will work?
And what the heck are you on about now francis? o.O
What else? Nonsense as usual...
Right you are, right you are, what was I expecting? ^^;
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Jan 10, 2010 12:39 PM

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francismeunier said:
No it's nonsense it hypothetical thinking since this is a first episode why not? After all the wait for next episode is long for some......


LULwut? And your hypothesis is based on wut? Baseless assumptions much? Same with Sir noteDhero planned to drop this because apparently he expects a mystery show gotta have everything explained right off the bat from the very 1st ep, such as how his DELICIOUS question shown: "That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?"...Duh, of course that's one of the mysteries that you gotta have 'nuff patience to watch and find out instead of throwing nonsenses ( Yes, something w/o proofs to back up its credibility can be considered as nonsense, or more commonly known as bullshit) around and be a smartass. If your nonsense, by luck, happened to be right, then okay you're teh man but what if it's not? Gonna flash your teeth and say stuff like "Awww...Who could expect that to happen?" ?

Seriously guys, it's nice and dandy to guess what's gonna happen next but there's a big difference between making logical hypothesis based on what's being shown and playing Sherlock on the unknown. Heck, even Sherlock himself can't just pulll out random hypothesis out of his butts, you know? But oh well, if that's what you wanna play then go ahead....Old habits die hard, amirite?



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Jan 10, 2010 1:17 PM

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LOL just that one sentence and he got that many pages?


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Jan 10, 2010 1:21 PM

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And I can sit back and laugh since I've played the VN. :3

Also: They are at least getting SOME things right.
Jan 10, 2010 1:44 PM

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LOL just that one sentence and he got that many pages?


Yup, thus why I shall, on the behalf of some, bestow the title of "NICE TROLL" to Sir francis and Sir noteDhero. ;)



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Jan 10, 2010 1:57 PM

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They deserved it.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Jan 10, 2010 2:20 PM

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Wow...I'm actually quite surprised that out of all the things I've managed to say about episodes that have aired since Phantom, that this seems to spark some of the most discussion. To be clear, there are many reasons why I dislike what I'm watching, and therefore see myself dropping the show. Here they are:

1. Generic art.
2. Annoying voice acting.
3. Generic characters.
4. Bad cg wheel chair.
5. Annoying main character.
6. Clingy girl.
7. The girl with the purple hair that isn't the sister.
8. The school uniforms.
9. Bad dialogue. (part of it could be the translation, but I don't think so)

Really, it was every aspect of what I saw besides the costume for that girl. Besides that one thing, the whole thing felt uninspired to me. Could that be a production issue irrespective of the source? Totally, but I'm watching the show, and the production is absolutely important here.

As for my comment about "Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?" Of course that's one of the points of the show. When everyone in the class makes a point of mentioning her, being quiet, and acting more normal in her presence, etc., how does that go unnoticed? It doesn't. And once I took the time to come up with an opinion (20 or so minutes), I posted again. But I guess 30 minutes was too much, since people ignored the second post and harped on half of my first.

You people are quite hilarious in what does and does not arouse your anger. I gave my opinion, and didn't put anything forward as fact.
Jan 10, 2010 2:30 PM

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loving the story so far XD~...



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Jan 10, 2010 3:49 PM

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noteDhero said:
Wow...I'm actually quite surprised that out of all the things I've managed to say about episodes that have aired since Phantom, that this seems to spark some of the most discussion.


Congrats, that's why you earned the title of "NICE TROLL" ;)

4. Bad cg wheel chair.


What does that have to do with the show itself or production value? Now that's just plain ridiculous...<_<

7. The girl with the purple hair that isn't the sister.


Don't know what you mean by that since there's no descriptive adjective such as "generic", "annoying", etc... watsoever. Judging by that, my take is that you have an imouto complex and that doesn't please you that she wasn't his sis and you can't enjoy yourself hearing her calling the guy "Onii-chan"...

8. The school uniforms.


Seems like something legit for once.

Really, it was every aspect of what I saw besides the costume for that girl.


Funny after all the "annoying" and "generic" you said, this one doesn't make an exception either since her costume is not as innovative as you like to think...8-)

As for my comment about "Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?" Of course that's one of the points of the show.


Huh? I have no idea what you're getting at besides the fact that you don't like the setting and what the producers intend to do: Make you curious about "Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?" thus make you watch the following eps to find out. Or do you like everything explained word by word right off the bat? Then what's the point of making a mystery show if all the mystery is explained from the start?

When everyone in the class makes a point of mentioning her, being quiet, and acting more normal in her presence, etc., how does that go unnoticed? It doesn't.


Well, the only one in that show who can have the decision to notice it or not is that effeminate main dude and his behavior is very believable: You're a guy transfering to this school in the countryside, you don't know how people there behaves, you see an unsociable girl whom everyone doesn't like to mention and you don't give much shit about her....What's weird about his behavior? It's what eveyone would do IRL, unless they're aware that they're in a fantasy setting and put their guard up, which our main brotagonist isn't aware of in the least...

You people are quite hilarious in what does and does not arouse your anger. I gave my opinion, and didn't put anything forward as fact.


Dunno about others, but I'm not and rather enjoy it. You said that you love to argue and here're people's arguments, so go ahead and give us counter-arguments?
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Hmm. Kinda has a Higurashi vibe to it, but...I dunno, I'm not feeling it as much. I'll give it a chance and see where it goes for a bit, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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What does that have to do with the show itself or production value? Now that's just plain ridiculous...<_<

What does a badly rendered wheelchair have to do with the show or the production? I'm not sure there's any way that I could get you to understand, since I think it's fundamental in the same way that badly drawn characters have to do with a show and production value.


Don't know what you mean by that since there's no descriptive adjective such as "generic", "annoying", etc... watsoever. Judging by that, my take is that you have an imouto complex and that doesn't please you that she wasn't his sis and you can't enjoy yourself hearing her calling the guy "Onii-chan"...

If I'm giving a list of what I disliked about about an episode, and I refer to a character, then I'm saying I dislike the character. If I cap off a list mentioning that the whole thing felt uninspired, then you can guess that I felt that way about everything unless I give an exception. I could have used the word 'annoying,' but I didn't want to. She was bitch in an uncharismatic way, and I just didn't care for her. She doesn't seem interesting or anything. She is generic, but I used it too many times in the post to use it again.

That last part is just ridiculous. I know you were just going for a laugh there, but I'll just reiterate that I'm gay and the thought of that is a little creepy. And not in a sexy way.


Funny after all the "annoying" and "generic" you said, this one doesn't make an exception either since her costume is not as innovative as you like to think...8-)


Did I say it was innovative? I though I just said I liked it and it felt inspired. Inspiration =/= Innovation.


Huh? I have no idea what you're getting at besides the fact that you don't like the setting and what the producers intend to do: Make you curious about "Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?" thus make you watch the following eps to find out. Or do you like everything explained word by word right off the bat? Then what's the point of making a mystery show if all the mystery is explained from the start?


I think I've made it clear in many discussions that I don't expect everything to be spoon fed to me, and in fact take enjoyment in trying to discern where things will go. I have a problem with presentation. Once again, you ignore that I put forward my own opinion of what is going on in the story, and instead harp on a somewhat rhetorical question I asked. I just think it's funny that you accuse me of wanting to be spoon fed information on one hand, but then accuse me throwing around bullshit while watching a show presented as a mystery. If I remember correctly, you intimated the same things in other show discussions. You can't possibly be confused because of anything I've said. I think that's on your end.

But, let me reiterate that I said "This looks like something I'll drop." Emphasis on looks. I've been wrong judging the quality of shows off of the first episode before, but as of late, and especially with visual novel adaptations, I don't think I have. Are they successful in making me ask 'why are the creepy people creepy'? Yes. Do I feel like they're successful in using art, voice acting, and dialogue to create mood, atmosphere, and a world that is distinguishable from others? No. That's why I see myself dropping it. Curiosity isn't enough to make a mystery good. Subsequent episodes will be telling in how the layers of production come together in presenting a story. As for the first episode: I think it was a bust.


Well, the only one in that show who can have the decision to notice it or not is that effeminate main dude and his behavior is very believable: You're a guy transfering to this school in the countryside, you don't know how people there behaves, you see an unsociable girl whom everyone doesn't like to mention and you don't give much shit about her....What's weird about his behavior? It's what eveyone would do IRL, unless they're aware that they're in a fantasy setting and put their guard up, which our main brotagonist isn't aware of in the least...

The question was in relation to the viewer, not the main character. I was continuing on with the thought that I found it ridiculous that people thought I didn't realize something that was quite obvious and took my question not as a rhetorical "What's up with that?" but a literal, "I don't understand what's going on." I suppose I'll have to make my language even plainer to come across the way I intend to.


Dunno about others, but I'm not and rather enjoy it. You said that you love to argue and here're people's arguments, so go ahead and give us counter-arguments?

You're not what? Angry? Judging by the increase in the tone of your sarcasm and perceived disdain on your part towards me in other threads, that's the way it looks to me. Calling me a troll and saying I make bullshit arguments seems to support that, but my fault if I misunderstand. But it still looks to me as though others are genuinely angry (or bothered, or whatever) at my opinion of this one episode which is much tamer compared to things I've said about other individual episodes (and went unreplied or even agreed on).

That aside, yes, as my disclaimer says, I have an argumentative personality. But I continue to say that I like semi-heated ''discussion." What this is right now, to me at least, is not so much a discussion. I'm definitely trying to take it there by bringing up my observations about the show and further explaining how I see it, but choosing to say or infer this that or the other about me instead of discussing the episode is not really what these forums are about.
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^ eh.

It's freakin first episode guys... >_>

(*though, can't deny I love to watch flame war above)
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noteDhero said:
I just think it's funny that you accuse me of wanting to be spoon fed information on one hand, but then accuse me throwing around bullshit while watching a show presented as a mystery. If I remember correctly, you intimated the same things in other show discussions. You can't possibly be confused because of anything I've said. I think that's on your end.


Well, based on the rhetorical question you asked about why people loves him then later on your self-hypothesis about werewolves are what contributed to my comments. From my POV, it looks like you don't get why people loves him and decided to drop it just because you don't get the mystery then later on provided a hypothesis based on unknown sources, thus why I said that you wanna be spoon fed on the info about the reason people loves him and at the same time making baseless assumption about the show's plot. At least on the visual level, I'm pretty sure that there's nothing that can back up your hypothesis and that's the whole point of my argument against you. But truth to be told, it was more directed at francis for making too much nonsenses rather than you, so sorry for not making it clear. Then another thing is that you said that you don't care about the hype over werewolves that made me think that you hate it because this show is about werewolves, not because of the production or execution level that you said later on.... But okay, now I gotcha ;)

The question was in relation to the viewer, not the main character. I was continuing on with the thought that I found it ridiculous that people thought I didn't realize something that was quite obvious and took my question not as a rhetorical "What's up with that?" but a literal, "I don't understand what's going on." I suppose I'll have to make my language even plainer to come across the way I intend to.


Well, you didn't specify who so anybody could interpret that you might mean the main character. If you don't make yourself clear, then how do you expect people to gotcha? And glad you realized that since many of us don't take advance courses in litterature like you do, you know?

You're not what? Angry? Judging by the increase in the tone of your sarcasm and perceived disdain on your part towards me in other threads, that's the way it looks to me. Calling me a troll and saying I make bullshit arguments seems to support that, but my fault if I misunderstand. But it still looks to me as though others are genuinely angry (or bothered, or whatever) at my opinion of this one episode which is much tamer compared to things I've said about other individual episodes (and went unreplied or even agreed on).


Yep, I'm not. As you already noticed, I'm sarcastic most of the time, if not always...But disdain? I don't think so... I'm quite blunt in what I said so I guess it doesn't come as a surprise if you took it that way. And another fault that I seem to commit like you is that I don't clearly explain my wording choice: I like to use words that can be considered as offensive for some and use 'em in a funny way w/o any bad intentions. The most obvious example is how I used the word "RAEP"; if I write it that way, it means that I used it as a joke, unless I write it properly. And noticed how I add the word "NICE" before "TROLL"? There you go. No hard feelings, man. And I don't know if you notice this, but when you go into a board and said that you dislike a certain things, you already offended some of the fans. Therefore, unless you can make very convincing arguments, you won't avoid critics like this ( Except me, since I don't care much if you like it or not. You like it, good for you; don't like? Bye. I only care about the illogical things in your arguments that I don't get or think that I should tell you about or making jokes out of 'em ) and if you're unaware of this, now you know and keep it to yourself if you don't want your comment to be flamed and if you're aware of it and still does so, then I guess I should say "Good job"? Anyway, like I always said, it's up to you ;)

That aside, yes, as my disclaimer says, I have an argumentative personality. But I continue to say that I like semi-heated ''discussion." What this is right now, to me at least, is not so much a discussion.


Say what? I don't know about others but what I'm asking you now is not a discussion? o.0



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Nice anime...and the ed preview that sound like norito seems to be cool ^^
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BitchMaster said:
francismeunier said:
No it's nonsense it hypothetical thinking since this is a first episode why not? After all the wait for next episode is long for some......


BitchMaster said:
LULwut? And your hypothesis is based on wut? Baseless assumptions much? Same with Sir noteDhero planned to drop this because apparently he expects a mystery show gotta have everything explained right off the bat from the very 1st ep, such as how his DELICIOUS question shown: "That was his first few days at school, right? Why the hell is everyone so in love with him?"...
Ok this is me now! Baseless assumptions? Of course but that is what makes things fun in the first episode since not much is explained anyways.
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Duh, of course that's one of the mysteries that you gotta have 'nuff patience to watch and find out instead of throwing nonsenses ( Yes, something w/o proofs to back up its credibility can be considered as nonsense, or more commonly known as bullshit) around and be a smartass.
Ok so what, it tends to make people wonder and there is nothing wrong at.....on the contrary it will be more fun to see how wrong one is or how close one got to.
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If your nonsense, by luck, happened to be right, then okay you're teh man but what if it's not? Gonna flash your teeth and say stuff like "Awww...Who could expect that to happen?" ?

Yeah sure why not? That is fun also to do.
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Seriously guys, it's nice and dandy to guess what's gonna happen next but there's a big difference between making logical hypothesis based on what's being shown and playing Sherlock on the unknown.
Hey I like Sherlock Holmes a lot so why not be him sometimes.
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Heck, even Sherlock himself can't just pulll out random hypothesis out of his butts, you know? But oh well, if that's what you wanna play then go ahead....Old habits die hard, amirite?
Old habits die hard? Sometimes but if that was the case don't you think farming would also be somewhat dead? No not really because of essential things are essential same as with fun.....as long as it is fun the habit of it or its elements will make it not old at all.

In spoiler my anime list for now.
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francis, your avatar makes me laugh XD
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Actually i wish i hadn't watched that because, it was good and it already got me hooked T_T, now i gotta painfully wait for the episodes to release...nuuuuuuuu..

But yeah, it was good and im looking forward to seeing more =]
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Classic teasers and introductions. There's obviously something SCREWED about the town and you'd have to be a moron not to notice. *looks at Hiroshi >_>* It was an OK first ep, that's all.

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The music was good, otherwise pretty boring.

Still, I'm not giving up yet, no because of Ryukishi but because it could turn out to be a cool mistery story to resolve.
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francismeunier said:
No it's nonsense it hypothetical thinking since this is a first episode why not? After all the wait for next episode is long for some......

I'm glad you agree with me.

noteDhero said:
1. Generic art.

If it's not broken don't fix it.

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2. Annoying voice acting.

More like typical =P.

noteDhero said:
3. Generic characters.

I'll agree with you there.

noteDhero said:
4. Bad cg wheel chair.

Wow... you noticed that? I applaud you sir.

noteDhero said:
5. Annoying main character.

Agreed.

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6. Clingy girl.

+1 But I feel like there's going to be a good reason for it.

noteDhero said:
7. The girl with the purple hair that isn't the sister.

I'm sure her character will be explained.

noteDhero said:
8. The school uniforms.

Oh god yes. They're really horrible.

noteDhero said:
9. Bad dialogue. (part of it could be the translation, but I don't think so)

Seems to be made to fill the atmosphere.

I'll continue watching since it's giving me a Higurashi feeling. I wanna see the mystery.
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^Ya. It's giving me higurashi feeling also. The expansion of the town in this show is similar to dam project in higurashi. Ppl of old town may be ookami kakushi equivalent of sunozaki family and its supporters.I'm really looking forward to next ep.
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really liked the anime style with this full of mystery and people hiding a big mystery disappearance and meaningless.
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BitchMaster said:

Well, based on the rhetorical question you asked about why people loves him then later on your self-hypothesis about werewolves are what contributed to my comments. From my POV, it looks like you don't get why people loves him and decided to drop it just because you don't get the mystery then later on provided a hypothesis based on unknown sources, thus why I said that you wanna be spoon fed on the info about the reason people loves him and at the same time making baseless assumption about the show's plot. At least on the visual level, I'm pretty sure that there's nothing that can back up your hypothesis and that's the whole point of my argument against you. But truth to be told, it was more directed at francis for making too much nonsenses rather than you, so sorry for not making it clear. Then another thing is that you said that you don't care about the hype over werewolves that made me think that you hate it because this show is about werewolves, not because of the production or execution level that you said later on.... But okay, now I gotcha ;)

So you take issue with the fact that the show is a mystery and I made a guess as to what's going on? But with seemingly nothing to go off of? Ok, well, here's what I went off of: We saw that in this episode, the person who was most aggressive and possessive over the main character (that guy) get hunted by the bitch and most likely killed (I don't see how you swing a scythe like that and not kill anyone, but it's absolutely possible that I'm wrong there). We also see that in the beginning of the episode, the second most possessive over the guy (annoying girl) to be hunted in a much similar manner (the actual content of this episode was mostly a flashback). Now, during the first guy's case, the show displayed all of the trappings of a werewolf about to transform (face contorting, screaming, looking at his hands, not to mention the full moon). This is where it gets hairy: The bitch is wearing a stylized wolf mask, and everyone follows her like an alpha dog. Is she some full blooded wolf-spirit incarnation like what was being discussed after school? Or is she a protector similar to a priestess to keep innocent humans from being killed? Or is it a combination of both? I think given a lot of what was shown in the episode on the generic level, plus the hints that were dropped in this episode leads for some sort of hypothesis that can be based on content. Can it be wrong? Totally, but it is just the first episode.

Do I hate the show because it's about werewolves? No. I just don't care for werewolf stories. I don't think that werewolves on their own are a strong enough plot device in stories anymore. As far as humans becoming monsters, I think there are a lot of other examples in both anime and general pop culture that do a better job with it. Werewolves are like the silly, blond best friend in harems: they can be great when they function as support to the main character (theme), but on it's own it's never engaging enough for me since the schtick wears out quickly.

But I'll be honest, I really thought I'd come in here make a post and it'd get overlooked since mostly everyone agreed. Had i known this was based off a vn, I probably would have tread more lightly.


Well, you didn't specify who so anybody could interpret that you might mean the main character. If you don't make yourself clear, then how do you expect people to gotcha? And glad you realized that since many of us don't take advance courses in litterature like you do, you know?

Rereading that paragraph, I see how it was misleading in that direction. That's my fault.


Yep, I'm not. As you already noticed, I'm sarcastic most of the time, if not always...But disdain? I don't think so... I'm quite blunt in what I said so I guess it doesn't come as a surprise if you took it that way. And another fault that I seem to commit like you is that I don't clearly explain my wording choice: I like to use words that can be considered as offensive for some and use 'em in a funny way w/o any bad intentions. The most obvious example is how I used the word "RAEP"; if I write it that way, it means that I used it as a joke, unless I write it properly. And noticed how I add the word "NICE" before "TROLL"? There you go. No hard feelings, man. And I don't know if you notice this, but when you go into a board and said that you dislike a certain things, you already offended some of the fans. Therefore, unless you can make very convincing arguments, you won't avoid critics like this ( Except me, since I don't care much if you like it or not. You like it, good for you; don't like? Bye. I only care about the illogical things in your arguments that I don't get or think that I should tell you about or making jokes out of 'em ) and if you're unaware of this, now you know and keep it to yourself if you don't want your comment to be flamed and if you're aware of it and still does so, then I guess I should say "Good job"? Anyway, like I always said, it's up to you ;)

I honestly am not bothered by your rape, and other overtly sexual posts (except for the girl part). What I noticed is that in relation to me, your posts became less about that, and in a more sarcastic, eyeroll nature.

As for the second part, I honestly just don't think of it much anymore since I thought I was over being labeled as a troll in discussion threads. And again, this reaction is seemingly much more abrupt, and of a different nature than ones I experienced in either Umineko or Phantom's discussion. This reminds me of when I said Akikan was a bad show, and some guy was aghast, offended, and couldn't see where I was coming from.

I'm not the only one who found this generic or whatever else. A lot of people even picked up on the Higurashi vibe (which I haven't mentioned), so I just don't see why everyone was so shocked to hear that I (or anyones else) see themselves dropping it for looking too generic.


Say what? I don't know about others but what I'm asking you now is not a discussion? o.0

My fault again. I mean about the anime. This was less about the anime, and more about me being called a nice troll that pull bullshit out of nowhere.
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"Everyone that was against {City Enlarging}/{Dam Building} living on the other side of {City}/{ errr ... live?}"

... DEEN animation fits much better imho
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The werewolf thing certainly is possible

i mean, there is a wolf god
and they keep showing the moon
and when Ogasawara looked at the moon he got all....um..."crazy"

and another thing

It doesnt seem like theyre trying to hide Ms. Reaper's face
and the fact that she looks like Nemuru doesnt necessarily mean she is

I mean, this is Ryukishi we're dealing with here.

Even the OP makes her look suspicious, which gives me all the more reason to believe she isn't. Maybe she's like Rika
but I don't think she's nearly as suspicious as she looks.



Or maybe theyre just trying to mess with our heads lol

My brain hurts now x.x
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Which subbed version should I download, Formula or Nekomimi?
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xcrusnikx said:

I mean, this is Ryukishi we're dealing with here.


Ryukishi made this?
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