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No-Look_Kuroko said: I think the blunders are the best part. These guys aren't fighters. It adds to the realism (perhaps verisimilitude is a better word). You can see it in how they were slipping around in the mud. That detail for some reason really provided an immediacy of threat to that scene, and especially to the effect of being off-balance. One false move and that single goblin could kill someone. If I was in that situation, I'd totally be jumpy and mess up too. Of course, I'm sure they'll improve (the mage chick actually landed a hit). I just hope they don't lose the intensity (or specificity of detail) that failed ambush had. I'm not really averse to them struggling to fight, mind you. It was certainly intense. I think the events surrounding <this scene> is what really just annoyed me the most. Their friend is literally being murdered right in front of them. They're just chilling, waiting for him to die basically, until he manages to stab the goblin which seems to have given them the green light to finally help him. I think if things like that continues to happen, it's going to bother me. |
| I'm only going to say one thing for me 20 minutes pass like 2 :( |
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| Love the pacing, love the characters, love the worldbuilding. Just hope that they would stretch this out over 24 episodes, or at least keep the break between seasons short. |
| This anime is pretty realistic in terms of emotions and psychology. I would like to believe that the studio is doing perfectly fine with the adaptation. I am pretty scared about the characters learning their past, some may be good, but most will be bad. Also, they were struggling on a 5 vs 1 *sigh* but it is okay, I am looking forward to seeing more character development from these characters. Anyways, Killing isn't an easy thing especially if its a living thing... |
Smudy said: Some people really don't know what good pacing and realism in anime is. It's hilarious. Precisely... People these days think that realism should not exist in anime because it's an "anime". The fact that they put in realism can be related so much to our actual lives but not many can understand and enjoy that as much as some do. Overall, this episdoe was a 5/5. I can see why many hated this, basically SoL lovers like me will love this because of that AMAZING "show, don't tell" scene in the second half of the episode with just music playing. On the other hand, people that find that boring will be dropping this, probably... |
| Such a moody episode. </3 |
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| This anime is so beautiful, I enjoyed this episode as much as the 1st. |
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| This episode is really good. 5/5. |
| “Are there some unseen roles that we have unknowingly set ourselves into, dictating the rules of engagement whenever we see each other, inevitably leading to us hurting each other?” |
| It was an ok episode world building isn't bad but this anime is going nowhere with this slow pacing, still relaxing and very nice art, the insert song was pointless even though it wasn't bad. 3/5 Oh and the goblin fight was good, showed how it feels to kill and how hard it is to kill and how bad it is. |
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 RIP Haruhiro.. :( |
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| Love that guy during the sunset scene: "wow the sunset really is pretty isn't it? Maybe it's because I've always been so busy, but I've never paid attention". ........yea, because you sure have a busy day laying siege to all of the monsters of the forests with your elite party right? More like so busy spending your one copper on a fucking loaf of bread and napping in the grass all day. I think the fight scene with the goblin was done well; a lot of realism in the fight, injuries actually hurt. What I thought was dumb was - I get that the group is supposed to be weak and that even goblins are a challenge for them, but the amount of stabs that fucker took was obnoxious. That thing took a beating from everyone, and was still alive and the ginger kid had to chase him down. Then it took ANOTHER like 20 stabs to kill it. Cant even blame them now when monsters eat fatal wounds like its nothing. Also kind of bullshit how the mage spell hit the goblin and did absolutely nothing. Kind of weird how our MC is a thief but doesn't steal anything. I mean a thief class in an MMO cant really steal from NPCs, but this is real life now. If he's a thief he should be stealing shit and then maybe they wouldn't be struggling to live on the day to day. I liked the realism of the setting and stuff though, like with priest guy using the spinning string bow device to catch a spark which then was put into the tinder which then ignited. And using that little hook device to grab the pot off the fire and serve drinks. Completely irrelevant to the story, but I like that they're building the world realistically. They did that in DanMachi as well with the toothbrushes and I liked that too. Full length insert song was stupid and a complete waste of 4 minutes. Keep it a minute or less. If you're gonna play the whole song, do it under dialogue or an important scene that plays out over a few minutes. Don't just show stills and small meaningless scenes with no dialogue for 4 minutes. |
sirflimflam said: No-Look_Kuroko said: I think the blunders are the best part. These guys aren't fighters. It adds to the realism (perhaps verisimilitude is a better word). You can see it in how they were slipping around in the mud. That detail for some reason really provided an immediacy of threat to that scene, and especially to the effect of being off-balance. One false move and that single goblin could kill someone. If I was in that situation, I'd totally be jumpy and mess up too. Of course, I'm sure they'll improve (the mage chick actually landed a hit). I just hope they don't lose the intensity (or specificity of detail) that failed ambush had. I'm not really averse to them struggling to fight, mind you. It was certainly intense. I think the events surrounding <this scene> is what really just annoyed me the most. Their friend is literally being murdered right in front of them. They're just chilling, waiting for him to die basically, until he manages to stab the goblin which seems to have given them the green light to finally help him. I think if things like that continues to happen, it's going to bother me. Oh I completely agree. It was like, ok you're having a hard time landing hits on this thing when it's all jumpy. Now that he stabbed and is choking your teammate to death and you have the perfect opportunity to do so...you stand there like morons. The goblin was choking him so obviously it wasn't going to be able to dodge. And......your fucking party member is being murdered in front of you. You don't feel the need to do something about that? |
| damn i feel bad for the goblin the insert song was really long it felt like they had nothing to animate something bad is going down for sure |
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| I like it... This is quite different from similar animes... I don't like winpy crybaby main characters, but on this one I like it how they are not familiar with the environment they are in, and how they are actually in way starting the game from the very beginning.... |
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MryNightmare said: RIP Haruhiro.. :( When you look it that way. This is so funny i can`t stop laughing |
| ok op why... but overall it was good |
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MryNightmare said: RIP Haruhiro.. :( I bet this anime's rank would skyrocket like hell if that really happened MAL likes edginess after all |
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| Edit: Looking at it back now after having some discussions with some friends I did enjoy it quite a bit. The part when the goblin was screaming ugh. |
SecondaryHJan 18, 2016 12:03 PM
| Interesting how they humanized(so to speak) the goblin. Usually, you wouldn't think much of killing some grunt like a goblin, or a monster, but the show clearly made it out that what they did was murder. I kind of felt bad for the goblin... I see what they were trying to do with the montage(?), but it just went on for far too long. |
| Cool episode, but as others had said that whole 'insert song and watch people' thing went on for way too long. At first I thought it was great since it relieved a lot of the stress from the Goblin fight, but then it just dragged on and on til I ended up just twiddling my thumbs til it was over. You'd think for a 1-cour anime there wouldn't be enough time to put in long scenes like that. Simply excessive and then it ended off with your standard, "LET'S PEAK AT GRILLS" bath setup. I pretty much could have stopped at the 13 minute mark of this episode and come back to the next episode without missing really much. Anyways, aside from that, the first half of the episode was great. All of these characters experiencing what it really meant to kill or be killed was expressed awesomely. I just hope for some more meat on the next episode. |
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| that ranta kid fucked up their ambush shouted and swordfight against the fucking grasses |
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| kinda felt bad for gob |
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| Hating Ranta already for being arrogant, perverted and ruining the ambush. The insert song was a bit too long for my taste and felt like it was just there to waste air time. Still the goblin fight was pretty awesome. |
| ...second episode and already tense that song, it feels short ...love the art |
mar1217 said: - Lazy animation( Toei level) - The bath scene was pointless ( Filer,filer,filer ... ) You don't even know what lazy animation means. If Toei recent work looked this good they would get called for their shit. Bath scene was in LN. Anime skipped girls scene and put it as OVA on first volume of BD/DVD |
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| it was pretty good episode. trapped in game usually has fast paced style, but this kind different, i like it. i also like log horizon that have similiar pace, even season 2. just hope there is season 3 so the building up on season 2 not wasted. the animation is pretty well done. insert song is okay, but the scenery that including in there is pretty well done too. but hope there is some dialogue so not feel empty. the only thing bug me is bath scane. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| Well, that was a sloooooooooooooow episode. They killed a goblin - yes, that was a good scene, but the rest? I'm not so sure, it woulda been better maybe later in the show to show a day off or something. Nevertheless this episode moved me to some degree, it's the atmosphere and it's so well done. |
| Can someone please answer me this : Am I supposed to feel for these characters? To root for them? Until now, not even one of them is likeable. What they did in this episode is pretty much murder, and while yes, it's a goblin, the way the author decided to humanize the poor thing transforms it into murder. At first I thought that this was for their character development, their wake-up call, but no. They looks sad for 5 mins and then they are back to laughing and peeking at girls. The red haired guy[ Ranta was his name ? ], it;s one of the most annoying and unlikeable characters I`ve seen in the last few years. What's even more annoying is that he gets a lot of screentime and dialogue, while the other 3 [ Generic Kind big Guy, generic shy girl, and the generic clumsy girl] are kinda left in the dark. |
Zalmox1s said: Can someone please answer me this : Am I supposed to feel for these characters? To root for them? Until now, not even one of them is likeable. What they did in this episode is pretty much murder, and while yes, it's a goblin, the way the author decided to humanize the poor thing transforms it into murder. The show spent a good while trying to express the fact that, if they don't hunt monsters, they'll all starve to death. That's what makes the murder understandable, if not acceptable. |
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Lollo36 said: The show spent a good while trying to express the fact that, if they don't hunt monsters, they'll all starve to death. That's what makes the murder understandable, if not acceptable. I understand that, but have they tried to find if there are other ways of making money besides killing innocent sentient, or even sapient creatures? It looks to me that they just took the word of the creepy emo looking guy , and that's that. This is what irks me. The problem begins when they decide to humanize the goblins and the like. We've seen them relaxing, fishing [ if i remember correctly from ep 1], chatting, collecting water , and then this group of people, which are supposed to be the heroes of this story, comes and tries to murder them in cold blood. Had they've been just the usual rpg enemy, I wouldn't have minded. |
| I liked the beautiful artwork combined with the OST. That was kind of amazing. But somehow the pace of the show is kind of weird. I have still to get used to it. I am looking forward for the next episodes! |
Zalmox1s said: Lollo36 said: The show spent a good while trying to express the fact that, if they don't hunt monsters, they'll all starve to death. That's what makes the murder understandable, if not acceptable. I understand that, but have they tried to find if there are other ways of making money besides killing innocent sentient, or even sapient creatures? It looks to me that they just took the word of the creepy emo looking guy , and that's that. This is what irks me. The problem begins when they decide to humanize the goblins and the like. We've seen them relaxing, fishing [ if i remember correctly from ep 1], chatting, collecting water , and then this group of people, which are supposed to be the heroes of this story, comes and tries to murder them in cold blood. Had they've been just the usual rpg enemy, I wouldn't have minded. - They didn't exactly start making a victory dance once they killed the goblin; you're treating them like monsters, while they spent the second half of the episode trying to recover from that thraumatic experience - It's a sort-of videogame world, the players are FORCED to do that stuff to survive, or at least that's how they presented the world so far. I'm guessing that they'll need to progress through the ranks by doing battle in order to figure out more stuff about how they came into this world - They've been assigned to protect the borders of the village because the goblins will happily kill them too, if they have the chance and they're given complete freedom; they're not going around killing goblins for pleasure Basically, you're extrapolating one detail from the story while ignoring all the context |
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| Yeah that insert song scene was just no. Too long and forced. Record company must've paid them a lot to promote the group... Strange mixture of an episode, first half was great but second half just fizzled out. |
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Lollo36 said: Zalmox1s said: I understand that, but have they tried to find if there are other ways of making money besides killing innocent sentient, or even sapient creatures? It looks to me that they just took the word of the creepy emo looking guy , and that's that. This is what irks me. The problem begins when they decide to humanize the goblins and the like. We've seen them relaxing, fishing [ if i remember correctly from ep 1], chatting, collecting water , and then this group of people, which are supposed to be the heroes of this story, comes and tries to murder them in cold blood. Had they've been just the usual rpg enemy, I wouldn't have minded. - They didn't exactly start making a victory dance once they killed the goblin; you're treating them like monsters, while they spent the second half of the episode trying to recover from that thraumatic experience - It's a sort-of videogame world, the players are FORCED to do that stuff to survive, or at least that's how they presented the world so far. I'm guessing that they'll need to progress through the ranks by doing battle in order to figure out more stuff about how they came into this world - They've been assigned to protect the borders of the village because the goblins will happily kill them too, if they have the chance and they're given complete freedom; they're not going around killing goblins for pleasure Basically, you're extrapolating one detail from the story while ignoring all the context - True, but they did got over it pretty damn fast. I would've like that scene to have more of a long term effect on them since it was so brutal, and they are after all teenagers. - I agree and I understand. But I think that the way they decided to present the fights and the relation between the people and the monsters, it's not really compatible with this kind of setting. It actually reminds me a bit of Divinity 2/ Difinity Original Sin's Goblins and Trolls, where these creatures are sapient and have a culture of their own. -If it's for self defense or to defend something in particular, I agree completely that they should fight in the best way they can even if it means to kill. The thing with this, is that that particular scene was really well done, it was tense and brutal, it's just that I think it wouldve been more fitting for a antagonist group / crazy group, rather than our heroes. |
| This was nice. I really like how no one got some random power up to defeat the goblin. They attacked and then killed the goblin like the weaklings they are. None of them have shown any signs of having some mysterious super power or anything, which is quite nice and it should stay that way. They also got a taste of this world's brutality – Haruhiro was in a whole lot of danger when the goblin jumped on him and the situation got pretty dangerous too when the goblin started attacking after playing dead for some time. They are getting more and more exposed to the dangers of this world. The last part where they were just passing time roaming around and checking out stuff also felt nice and heartwarming especially because of the music. This is turning out to be quite the surprise. This one's a keeper. Just hope this doesn't start sucking later |
| So that was their very first kill, They're just getting used to the feeling. Even though it was an amateur fight you could sense the tension in the air, That was done quite well. I loved the insert song, It added this serene and tranquill touch to the atmosphere that even though slowed down the pacing considerably was still a pleasure to watch. I hope they don't start rushing it since it's only 1 cour. I wouldn't mind this slow pace as long as they develop it well. |
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| Virtually throughout the episode does not happen that much, this anime series really resembles a slice of life themed MMO, not that I mind, good designs and animations, opening and ending yet to be assessed. Nevertheless, this anime series I like a lot. Xenocrisi said: Rezidentas said: That Ranta kinda reminds me Leone Favaro. Same Voice Actor. This ! |
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| Wow,this anime is like Log Horizon and Spice and Wolf got a child,the fight scene was pretty hardcore and made me think i would never do vrmmo haha,the second slice of part life was pretty chill and relaxing,i'm really immersed in this universe.i really like the artistic direction,chara design and animation(its fresh,well done,and kinda pretty). Its probably gonna be my anime of the season but i'm pretty sad to see that's its only 12 episodes,we can still believe for a season 2 tho. |
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| The insert song was meant to depict the life and inner workings of the town from day to sunset..to get us attached to the world, you know |
| I thought this was fantastic episode. While it seems some hate the pacing I find it refreshing. This isn't "overpowered main character who struggles alittle but then uses the power of friendship to become super strong" story. This is about a group of kids thrown into a situation that is unknown to them. They have to kill or be killed. For those saying "why are they watching their friend get strangled". Put yourself in their shoes. Your watching someone you have only known for a short period of time being strangled. The fear must be intense. They are NOT fighters. You dont become some brave superhero like a lot of these anime portray over night. The pacing of how they learn to survive in this new world is fantastic. Super underrated series. I3rawler said: Well, that was a sloooooooooooooow episode. They killed a goblin - yes, that was a good scene, but the rest? I'm not so sure, it woulda been better maybe later in the show to show a day off or something. Nevertheless this episode moved me to some degree, it's the atmosphere and it's so well done. I think what people (not you, just in general) need to realize is that, while this is a fantasy show, they (so far) seem to be taking the road of a survival instead of action, which I am 100% ok with. You don't need 10 enemies to make a fight good. Watching a bunch of kids struggle to defeat one enemy was refreshing to watch. The moral actions was also brought into question and as you can see in this thread, it is bring a ton of discussion. Hopefully it continues in the direction it is going. |
SieyeJan 18, 2016 8:46 AM
| I really love the climate here, as somebody said, it's not your typical SAO-esque anime. The goblin scene was amazing, long time since I've seen so well made scene anywhere, it felt... real and let you get closer to the characters, they aren't Ichigo v6543.2, they are humans, kids at that, thrown into this unforgiving world. Amazing! Second part though... The song was really too long, but on the other hand if anybody here had a close call they will know how afterwards, everything seems so serene and beautiful for a moment. So big plus for capturing that, but also not so small minus for dragging it. As for the banter, it may feel bland, but once again, they are just kids, if they went Koyomi on us it'd be weird. I'm also happy to see that the art and animation are still top notch and didn't drop drastically after 1st episode, because they are simply enchanting. Zalmox1s said: Until now, not even one of them is likeable. What they did in this episode is pretty much murder, and while yes, it's a goblin, the way the author decided to humanize the poor thing transforms it into murder. Sooo... It's ok if generic protagonist #2453 kills 10,000 generic minions #3463, because they are portrayed as brainless? That's so extremely shallow. This anime just showed you how wrong your thinking is. The goblin was brainless minion to these kids at first as well. |
HuggykazeJan 18, 2016 9:08 AM
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| The show's pacing is really weaird. The song part would have been nice for a last episode like an epilogue but putting it right after their first battle in the second episode, it was just a waste |
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Sieye said: I thought this was fantastic episode. While it seems some hate the pacing I find it refreshing. This isn't "overpowered main character who struggles alittle but then uses the power of friendship to become super strong" story. This is about a group of kids thrown into a situation that is unknown to them. They have to kill or be killed. For those saying "why are they watching their friend get strangled". Put yourself in their shoes. Your watching someone you have only known for a short period of time being strangled. The fear must be intense. They are NOT fighters. You dont become some brave superhero like a lot of these anime portray over night. The pacing of how they learn to survive in this new world is fantastic. Super underrated series. I3rawler said: Well, that was a sloooooooooooooow episode. They killed a goblin - yes, that was a good scene, but the rest? I'm not so sure, it woulda been better maybe later in the show to show a day off or something. Nevertheless this episode moved me to some degree, it's the atmosphere and it's so well done. I think what people (not you, just in general) need to realize is that, while this is a fantasy show, they (so far) seem to be taking the road of a survival instead of action, which I am 100% ok with. You don't need 10 enemies to make a fight good. Watching a bunch of kids struggle to defeat one enemy was refreshing to watch. The moral actions was also brought into question and as you can see in this thread, it is bring a ton of discussion. Hopefully it continues in the direction it is going. I agree with you at 100%. The scene when they watched their friend being strangled was very important story-wise. It clearly showed that their are NOT heroes : they are scared, petrified kids above all. But that is what's interesting in this anime : how these kids will grow up. Especially Ranta (he annoyed me each time he speaks) but he will -probably- have one of the most interesting character development. |
Rufix said: Zalmox1s said: Until now, not even one of them is likeable. What they did in this episode is pretty much murder, and while yes, it's a goblin, the way the author decided to humanize the poor thing transforms it into murder. Sooo... It's ok if generic protagonist #2453 kills 10,000 generic minions #3463, because they are portrayed as brainless? That's so extremely shallow. This anime just showed you how wrong your thinking is. The goblin was brainless minion to these kids at first as well. It depends heavily on what exactly you want to portray as an author. Do you want to show the brutality of the world? Do you want to develop your characters ? Do you want to attract a certain kind of emotion for the characters? You can't really have a group of people gang bang a sapient creature , that did not attack them , in a very brutal way , and then expect people to cheer for them and consider them heroes. Had it had a long term effect on them as character, helping them to grow and develop, I would've been a little happier, but that development seemed to have lasted about half a day, and then they were all happy together again. To tell you the truth, I don't know too much about the human Psyche, but I think the fact that they slaughtered an enemy and were almost killed by him wouldn't have passed so quickly and without lasting effects. You want to portray this kind of realistic and brutal scenes? Awesome, but make sure that the reactions to them are also realistic , otherwise they would be for naught. |
| Implying that their reaction to killing the goblin wasn't realistic. |
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