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| Great episode but it's sad that they've removed the background story of Barry the Chopper they tried to really compact it in just making him say who he was but it didn't really give the same effect as with the original that he kidnapped Winry... But I did find it quite sad the homunculus showed up and fucked up everything the story on how Edward first protects him now it's just show up and instant kill oh well they really wrapped it up good though but was better with the expanded version of the original... Either way great episode! the story devolopment is going great :D |
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Boba_Fett said: Great episode but it's sad that they've removed the background story of Barry the Chopper they tried to really compact it in just making him say who he was but it didn't really give the same effect as with the original that he kidnapped Winry... But I did find it quite sad the homunculus showed up and fucked up everything the story on how Edward first protects him now it's just show up and instant kill oh well they really wrapped it up good though but was better with the expanded version of the original... Either way great episode! the story devolopment is going great :D agree!! they removed the backstory of Barry in which Winry was kidnapped(since she went to the central city due to a missing piece) and Ed was almost killed if weren't for Ross. the fight between slicer is more intense but i felt like it was rush a little. even when Ed joked that Slicer's legs is another brother didn't had the same impact as the first season. Ed also defeated slicer but using the same technique from Scar. they killed slicer and his brother too early. in the first season his brother sacrifice himself since he was already content on being called human. it made Edward traumatize more than Lust killing him. also they didn't show how in the first season Ed was forced to sacrifice the people due to Al being held hostage by Homunculus with Tucker alive. not to mention the seal was upside down that would be cool :P what about the "underground" people?? no mentioned of them?? all in all still amazing and fast paced, but i do wish sometimes they slow things a little bit to show more info about what's happening. at least the "hurry up and get married" from Hughes is funny as hell(still i think the original did a better job. |
| i also have forgotten that Armstrong or any reinforcements didn't arrive at the scene when the building was being destroyed. very surprising Envy is helping Ed out. guess the original manga is very very different from the first season. wasn't kimbley and the "underground" people supposed to escaped too?? |
| lol no Scar or Tucker this version |
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| Ugh, Al's gonna be so paranoid now cause of Barry... |
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| I have to admit that FMA's animation quality is really impressive. Way better than One Piece. |
| So this one doesn't even have live version of Barry.....i'm starting to see why people prefer the original series over this. |
| Al sometimes can act really stupid, beliveing some murderer he just met? O.o really? how dumb u need to be to do that. the differences between FMA and FMAB are pretty big, i hope everybody who watch this already seen FMA |
| Not a comment specific to this episode... I've watched the first series, and so far, FMA: Brotherhood is reminding of Hellsing vs. Hellsing Ultimate: the latter "fast-forwarding" through early stories and focusing more on action than character development. Plus more flashy comedy scenes and much, much better graphics. :) That was my one and only point of contention with my #4 favorite anime of all time -- I like to get to know my heroes first so they don't end up as Generic Akshun Tuff Guy #38,183. Not to imply that Alucard is a "hero" by any meaning of the word. Except perhaps the original Greek definition. But I digress. (Don't you love how pretentious that sounds?) Anyway-- Here's to hoping FMA: B ends up like HU, in that this early stuff ultimately doesn't matter and that by the end, the finished product ends up far more epic, brutal, brutally epic and epically brutal! |
UnculturedWhiteySep 26, 2013 9:33 AM
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| Anime manages to produce these intensely annoying antagonists like the Envy guy. I really hop before the series is over he gets the living daylights beaten out of him. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I understand how someone who never watched the original series would be impressed with this turn of events, but being that I have I can't help but compare how the events happened in one series to the other, especially considering I just recently rewatched the first one. So far, Brotherhood is proof that the build up is a very important element for any major event to have any impact. There's no build up, so a lot of the stuff which was shocking in the original series is falling flat here. I already knew this, but I did not expect it to get as severe as it did in this episode - EVERYTHING about the fifth laboratory was cushioned. The hype in the battle between Ed and Slicer, the drama of Al questioning his existence and the shock of Slicer's sudden destruction, but most importantly... (2003 series spoiler) The story of Brotherhood had better be truly excellent once the diverging point appears to make up for the atrocities it is committing towards the drama and power of overlapping events. >.< |
ZadionOct 24, 2013 11:45 PM
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| I really liked those slicer brothers characters. Sad that they died before they at least got to tell Ed the stuff. |
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| Envy is such a dickhead xD Stabbing the poor brother's blood marking like that :( |
| -Barry is really funny! and his armor makes him... ahahah funnier! -Damn I really hate that fucking Envy.. I hope he will die... SOON. |
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| The first time joke in FMAB make me laugh. Envy's voice.. the first time he spoke I always thought it sounds familiar, it's Edogawa Conan! Didn't like the fight, otherwise it was okay. |
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| So far I don't really like the fights in the anime, they're kinda dull. Ed doesn't really do much for being such a renowned Alchemist. But the story is really good so it should pick up. Are Envy, the lady and the cannibal fatty all Homunculus'? I've heard that this anime has a bunch of them and it would explain the transmutation circles on their bodies. I want to meet this 'father' guy, I'm guessing that's when the anime picks up. And I can't help but wonder if the 'father' is actually Ed and Al's dad who disappeared, he was supposedly really strong, right? Lol, if he was, it would turn into a 'Luke, I am your father' moment. |
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| "So hurry up and get married" I haven't laughed so hard in a while |
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| I forgot how much I liked Hughes XD |
| Here comes the angst. Ugh hope the brothers settle this. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Ed does fight like a monkey. I really liked the music that played when Envy and Lust showed up. I like Envy too. I had always felt like Al's doubt was pretty silly and superficial (for plot). Usually he comes off smarter than that. It's clearly psychological manipulation and there's a thousand reasons not to believe it. So hopefully this blows over in the next ep. |
| Nice fights at least. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
| The first encounter the Elric brothers have with Envy! That was a cool episode, with realistic fighting and good characters. can't wait for more. |
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Kantarou said: I also disliked how easily Al fell for Barry's words in the first series, manga and now here. You'd think that he would have a little more trust in his own brother than a criminal in a suit of armour =/. He needs a good wrench to the head coming his way. Hughes is hillarious as usual, great advice from a senior to a junior XD. |
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| Al is also dumb in this one, how can you even believe one word that comes out of Barry's mouth? I mean he's not only an enemy but also a murderer... |
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Gator said: Al is also dumb in this one, how can you even believe one word that comes out of Barry's mouth? I mean he's not only an enemy but also a murderer... |
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| Good episode, liked the psychological stuff the butcher pulled on Al and the fight scenes. The after credit scene was pretty funny too. |
| Finally! Ed meet the homunculus! Great episode. |
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| The stories converge towards the same goal even now, but the narrative is very much different from the FMA, everything is reduced to a single incident and the facts are told otherwise, but compared to the FMA narrative is punctuated by images and dialogues that still gives depth to history. |
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| "You're not going to say something like, "Hey, we're actually a trio", are ya?" lmao |
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Zadion said: I understand how someone who never watched the original series would be impressed with this turn of events, but being that I have I can't help but compare how the events happened in one series to the other, especially considering I just recently rewatched the first one. So far, Brotherhood is proof that the build up is a very important element for any major event to have any impact. There's no build up, so a lot of the stuff which was shocking in the original series is falling flat here. Yeah it's a shame, it's moving way too fast without any buildup, kinda missing 2003's take on it now :/ |
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| Ugh, I hate Barry so much. |
| How can Al believe this cheap mind tricks? He's only 15 though, what could he know? |
| Well animated fight scenes (even if some of the back story and characters where abbreviated compared to first series). Especially Slicer's swordplay. Very nice. |
| Great fight between Edward and the Slicer brothers. Pacing feels really fast, it feels like action scenes are always hitting me every other episode. Feel bad for Alphose. Who is to say that the soul that is bonded to the armor is really Alphose? |
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| Pretty sure I saw Izumi (elric bro's teacher) pass in the background just when winry arrives in the central station. |
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| Great action scenes. The animation was really on a high level. And unfortunatelly... Winry's mistake brought for Edward a bloody harvest, because during his duel with Slicer his mechanical arm suddenly stopped working, just after he decided to use alchemy. Poor Alphonse. I hope that the doubt about his humanity, sowed in his heart by that meat cutter, will be neutralized soon. |
| poor al, all the mind tricks get to you when it first happens |
| I understand and sympathize with Alphonse's concerns. I mean, knowing what alchemy is capable of, it does seem like a plausible scenario. I'm sure he, whose existence is so fragile, has started doubting every fundamental thing he's once taken for granted. He feels disconnected from the world and rightfully so, every little thing can get to him. Quite enjoyable episode by the way. 3.5/5 |
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| I actually liked the episode where Barry kidnaps Winry. I think there was more impact when they went to the lab, knowing he was alive the first time they met him. I'm okay with the faster pacing if only for the fact most people have seen the 2003 version or read the manga before watching Brotherhood. But I personally found the first half of the 2003 series to be very good. I guess I can't complain too much considering I understand they wouldn't want to reanimate anything that wasn't in the manga. |
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| It's very interesting that the main enemies of the episode happened to be in the exact same state Alphonse is in. Serving as eternal watchmen to the gruesome process of transmutating a Philosopher's Stone really is something only cold-blooded murderers can do and be good at. The Slicer Brothers were pretty cool guys who gave Edward a really tough fight and a lead to his long-sought after goal but had it tragically cut short because of the Sins tragically interrupting their chat. Envy was really brutal towards Lower Slicer and I winced at how cruel he (she's a guy what) dispatched of him because it looked so painful despite him being an unfeeling automaton with a soul marked to it. Barry just gave Alphonse an existential crisis while he's in the exact same situation as him before running for it, wow. Envy and Lust saved Edward because they don't want him dying on them until that big day while Roy climbed up the ranks thanks to Scar's troublemaking. |
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| Incredible episode, so Alphonse isn't the only one with his soul sealed to an armor |
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| nice episode but i think i preferred FMA's version of the fights with ed and al, they were longer and allowed more development, and i liked that the head of the slicer brother got close to ed. getting the feeling that the storyline will start to change from FMA pretty soon and the hughes-mustang post-ending scene was great! i love their friendship |
| Good episode, I wonder when we see Kimblee in action. Why show a character so often if he stays in a cell for the rest of the series? He probably still has his part to play... Hughes and Roy wife talk was funny and Al should be too intelligent to fall for Barry's bait so easily. robbydesu said: noteDhero said: I thought the point of them going was to check whether or not they WERE carrying out the human transmutations? They are 14/15 years old....still kids and curious. Makes sense to me, especially since they sneaked away hahahaha.Ultimately, I just don't really see the point in going to Lab 5 itself, since the only real point was to introduce Ed to Envy and cause Al's crisis of conscience. But really since Al's total trust in Ed is shaken by Barry's off the cuff remarks, this development only undermines Ed and Al's relationship...which is why I was never a fan of this turn of events. Hopefully it' s different in the manga, and therefore, Brotherhood. Rather than simple curiosity, I would ascribe it to a lack of trust. I mean, they just found out that Marcoh and General Grand performed experiments on live humans and that military higher-ups and possibly government officials knew about it. They even sanctioned using these stones for a genocide in Ishval. Knowing this, I would not trust military personnel to investigate for me and rather find answers myself. |
| I am happy that they did not give a forced reason to remove Ed from that place, Envy and Lust need him later, it makes sense for them to save Ed. Al's crisis of conscience was the most interesting element introduced in this episode. I hope it will be important in the future. Things that I don't like? The comedy except for the marrying joke were placed in bad times and ruined a couple of serious moments. Also, for being serial killers, they don't look scary and are a joke. While I mentioned that the subplot of Al doubting his brother after Barry's words sounds interesting, I don't understand how he could allow himself to be manipulated by a serial killer, maybe he's naive. |
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