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symbv said: Yeah, I kind of like it. I'd have to drop PP instantly if I took it seriously though, setting isn't really well thought out.Might as well say anime is silly lol Anyway it is entertaining. |
UnbornMVs said: Meh Progeusz said: http://i.imgur.com/coBCS.jpg <- best moment This anime is so silly. well, preferences POV, you guys really won't dig this kind of show anyway, this flawed show is doing its purpose, just look at how many argues about the irrationality of the Sibyl system, and how other really couldn't take it seriously ^^, |
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skudoops said: Post-Moe said: skudoops said: (response) You just reasoned how(not why) they employ such banal writing, which isn't the point. The point is the why; because the result is not intriguing, enlightening, entertaining, or particularly good in any sense. Except you haven't given a valid reason why you think it's bad. Most of what you complained about was explained, fits the situation or is just extreme nitpicking. You're missing the point too. Of course "nitpicks" can be explained, that's how plot works (unless there's a plot hole). Being able to explain something doesn't make it good. For instance, using stress/pressure/whatever to explain their method of finding out whether or not that dude was a murderer is a complete joke. Also, banal is inherently bad, there's no more explanation needed. This is the definition: "So lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring." |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Arg, a society in which the almighty system decides you'll have to spend the rest of your life as a target of bullying and harassment... I found that extremely disturbing. |
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| I really enjoyed this episode... the look in Kougami's eyes after taking care of the dude and the machines made me more interested in his character. Loving this anime. |
| Man, this episode really makes you think of the psychology in this setting. It's crazy with that Sybyl System in place. Great overall though, and that first scene made me think Kougami was trying too hard to be badass, lol. At least Tsunemori is getting more comfortable with her job, although i think someone should check Ginoza's Psycho Pass. The look he gave her should have set off a flag. |
| The Dominator kicks ass and Kougami is so cool. But I don't understand the whole plot of the anime if there is one or if its just about detective stuff :/ |
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skudoops said: Nordhau5 said: skudoops said: Post-Moe said: skudoops said: (response) You just reasoned how(not why) they employ such banal writing, which isn't the point. The point is the why; because the result is not intriguing, enlightening, entertaining, or particularly good in any sense. Except you haven't given a valid reason why you think it's bad. Most of what you complained about was explained, fits the situation or is just extreme nitpicking. You're missing the point too. Of course "nitpicks" can be explained, that's how plot works (unless there's a plot hole). Being able to explain something doesn't make it good. For instance, using stress/pressure/whatever to explain their method of finding out whether or not that dude was a murderer is a complete joke. Also, banal is inherently bad, there's no more explanation needed. This is the definition: "So lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring." I think you missed my point, you haven't said why it's bad, you merely state it's bad. You trying to pass it off as obvious and boring is silly, because you in turn question the way some of the scenes are because they are handled in your view, an absurd manner (i.e the example you provided). It's quite clear that they wanted out to point out the flaws in the sibly system from the get go, because if you noticed almost everyone disagrees with it and even akane is developing her doubts, if something was that much spoon fed to the audience why do you think that's the main point of the show? I mean seriously, it's not like they all praise it and we are seeing the obvious faults.. they are seeing the obvious faults as well and judging a show from 3 episodes in is just simply silly at best, especially with the way gen does things. To discredit the writing without even seeing half the story is ridiculous at best. I see you have a FLCL avatar, do you think it would make sense for me to judge that show from two episodes? Especially when the first two are just so mind-numbingly bad and surreal? (Not that I thought anything more of the rest because really..) agree. some people really tend to watch show out of their preference just to nitpick, reason out in the forums yet entirely misses the point oh, btw, some of our students in our school have conducted a study that reads the heart beat, respiratory rate and other body signals from a person to indicate his stress levels, quantitatively, and sends the data to a designated doctor via SMS for initial consultation, this is just an initial study yet made the concept feasible and plausible so i guess, by the year PP is set, indicating their so called psycho analysis quantitatively is not far from reach but i guess there is no problem with this kind of thing in this kind of shows, i mean, you really can't judge a show as "bad" just because its technology is not plausible, i mean, what are "science-fiction" or "science-fantasy" genres are for, its like critics reasoning nowadays are crossing the borders of such and yet they can't helped but worship shows that had more "implausibility" leaving some notes here, based on my perceptive analysis of the show so far in their time you have 1. aptitude, to designate jobs 2. hue assessment, psychological status 3. crime coefficient, designates one as latent criminal anyway, as a suggestion for "curious" guys out there, with additional information revealed here in episode 3, go rewatch episode 1 and you can fully understand what happened with the episode, "technically and systematically" with regards to the Sibyl System oh, and Psycho-Pass is clearly following the formula of GiTS and Patlabor, being episodic yet revealing world expositions aside from expanding character developments last note: drop this show now, i suggest it for the majority of guys out there, so we can have a more "intellectual" discussion as to what the show is pointing out by "episodes shown so far" and actually not judging the show as a "whole" and i'm worshiping this show out of my preference, but i certainly wouldn't fight it out that this show is a masterpiece and its kinda funny how others are complaining why the anime industry is falling downhill with its redundant shows and excessive fanservice and moe series, yet here they are shown with something taking a risk yet they couldn't stop and "just watch if for now" and initially go ro "rambling state" because its something they can't comprehend with "3 episodes so far out of a 22 episode length mark" |
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AmberFebruary said: its kinda funny how others are complaining why the anime industry is falling downhill with its redundant shows and excessive fanservice and moe series, yet here they are shown with something taking a risk yet they couldn't stop and "just watch if for now" and initially go ro "rambling state" You nail the problem in the fandom right on its head. At the end to some people they seem to watch anime only to bash about it, and so even if a show comes that takes risk by not being an adaptation and tries to be a bit different (no fanservice etc) while keeping a decent level of technical standard and entertainment value, it still gets trashed. The question is, what is the meaning of watching anime if he can enjoy only a tiny share of the shows he watches? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| I agree that it is FAR too soon to nitpick this show and I even laugh at people that say "that's not possible" when 95% of anime out there has inconceivable plots. Honestly, I think this show could have the potential to be the "Steins;Gate or "Madoka Magica" of 2012. I have yet to see a series that hits hard and gains a robust popularity like those two shows have. The only show that seems to hit even close to a home run is Fate/Zero and even then, it seemed like there were some mixed views on that show (I for one, didn't enjoy it as much as a lot of other people did). |
symbv said: AmberFebruary said: its kinda funny how others are complaining why the anime industry is falling downhill with its redundant shows and excessive fanservice and moe series, yet here they are shown with something taking a risk yet they couldn't stop and "just watch if for now" and initially go ro "rambling state" You nail the problem in the fandom right on its head. At the end to some people they seem to watch anime only to bash about it, and so even if a show comes that takes risk by not being an adaptation and tries to be a bit different (no fanservice etc) while keeping a decent level of technical standard and entertainment value, it still gets trashed. The question is, what is the meaning of watching anime if he can enjoy only a tiny share of the shows he watches? I think they are called "snobs". They just snob shows just for the sake of being snobs and when they see a show they love, anything else that's made (whether it is innovative or not) is looked down upon. Some things are meant to be enjoyed, even if they aren't "good" by a technical standard. Look at pro wrestling. Bad acting and athletically speaking, not much effort is put forward if you consider it a "sport", yet, millions of people "enjoy" it. Hell, Angel Beats is probably my all-time favorite anime and I called it "the greatest flawed anime I had ever seen." As hip-hop artists have stated throughout the years, "haters gonna hate." |
Toucanbird said: I think they are called "snobs". They just snob shows just for the sake of being snobs and when they see a show they love, anything else that's made (whether it is innovative or not) is looked down upon. You are right, snobs, hipsters, self-appointed critics, you name it. What is true is that they enjoy much less about anime than the general fans, but not necessarily contributing more to the anime industry or fandom. What they want is anime cast in their aloof standard which is very unlikely to happen anyway. Toucanbird said: Some things are meant to be enjoyed, even if they aren't "good" by a technical standard. Look at pro wrestling. Bad acting and athletically speaking, not much effort is put forward if you consider it a "sport", yet, millions of people "enjoy" it. Hell, Angel Beats is probably my all-time favorite anime and I called it "the greatest flawed anime I had ever seen." I watched Angel Beats mainly for the music and Angel ;-D but it is enough for me to enjoy the entire show. I am not thrilled at much of its humor and the antics kicked up by the gang failed to make me laugh, and the story can be contrived and forced at times, but it can also be very good in certain moments -- touching at one time entertaining at another. So I am fine with it. I don't focus on only the flaws and declare it a failure. I honestly have my disappointments but it also has things which give my pleasure. This is the case for most of the shows I watch - at the end I enjoy most of the shows but it does not diminish my ability to be critical. I don't let negative emotions to hijack my experience of anime which, as you said, is meant to be enjoyed. Toucanbird said: Honestly, I think this show could have the potential to be the "Steins;Gate or "Madoka Magica" of 2012. I have yet to see a series that hits hard and gains a robust popularity like those two shows have. I rarely hold such high expectation for anime I watch. I try to avoid hype even if I see a promising show. If Psycho-Pass ends up as good as S;G or Madoka, I will be jumping with joy but if it only ends up a competently executed show I will still be very happy. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
skudoops said: From asking questions questions already answered to being flat out wrong on certain things, it seems the haters are just going blind with that one. What I observe is that haters often follow a certain mode: they use certain negative words that are vague, bland and banal enough that can be used to describe any anime they hate. And they deliberately choose words that are sarcastic and meant to provoke. Since they cannot derive enjoyment from anime they watch, they derive pleasure from laughing at it and making fun of those who enjoy it. skudoops said: I despite me not liking the show I can see why others do, I mean, I said I will drop it back at episode 14, yet, here I am on episode 17. So despite me not liking it, I still come back to it like an addict trying to quit, so I can admit that it does have some appeal to it and not to mention I am so far into the show that I may as well finish it. I believe the only show I couldn't recently was Eureka Seven AO, now I rarely say this but that show is just wow... really really really bad. I believe I got to episode 21 and just said no mas lol. I sometimes drop show but I do not feel I need to bash or attack it, not in private and definitely not in public. I may criticize it but I always try to see what are the good things I enjoy in the anime. A balanced view is something that seems quite often lacking in many fans here - one should use the word "worst" as well as "best" only sparingly. For SAO, frankly I think it is not particularly great but not particularly bad either. It is in fact an average to slightly above-average show. I honestly do not think it deserves to be the no.1 bestselling / most popular anime of the last season, but I also think there are a couple of things in it I really like, sometimes even against my rational judgement - I think the anime/novel really hits a chord for many people which is why it gets so popular. There is the thing it did right. For Psycho-Pass, interestingly I am no fan of cyberpunk or cop story or Urobuchi but I still patiently wait week after week for a new episode, because of what it did right, what appeals to me, and that is enough for me to be open-minded about the elements that I do not find appealing or even like. So far I think the technical execution, sakuga/animation and character design all work very well. The settings in the world are intriguing enough and I have not seen any major flaw in it yet. The story is gradually moving and we are seeing development in various characters. So I am quite satisfied now. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| on topic. am i the only who thinks Masaoka-san is a former police officer, or am i just too slow to notice the implied fact XD |
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AmberFebruary said: on topic. am i the only who thinks Masaoka-san is a former police officer, or am i just too slow to notice the implied fact XD He is still a police officer now though lol But if you mean he used to be a monitor officer, that would be really sad -- suddenly going from an "elite course" in police to being the "trash of society" (in the words of Ginoza). |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Opening is sick. Ending is great. I start to like this anime more and more :) |
| Yeah. The Dominator kicks ass. I love this 1 episode arc. I hope we get to see an arc soon. This show is getting better and better! |
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| Jeez, Ginoza overacted, he has become quite annoying. |
| this anime is great for now : ) Anyway, the main female character is definitely my kind of girl ^^ |
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| @several people: I did drop the show after this episode, so you don't have to worry about me "hating" in future threads. A few random remarks about what some people are saying: 1) This show is not taking risks, in any possible sense of the phrase, and I'm mildly shocked that anyone actually believes that. 2) In response to the "too soon to judge" argument, a writer does not get better throughout the course of a show. Yes, it's very possible that his speciality is late game mind-fucks, or what have you, but if he can't set up a story convincingly, he can't set up a story convincingly. That's the only part I'm judging in this case, since it's the only part I watched. Not to mention that begs the question; what good is a twist when the foundation isn't there? 3) I still don't understand why some (most, it would appear) people encourage one sided discussion. That's not generally how discussion works. Maybe some people are not interested in productive discussion, which is fine, provided they try to understand that some people are. If someone wants to tell me why FLCL sucks, they can do so and I will consider what they have to say. |
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| Coming from the same writer as my favourite anime of all time, I had a lot of expectations for this show. Three episodes, they have met about half of them. The setting and premise is great. Deciding someone's fate before they do anything and having a mysterious entity do it without any sort of reasoning is a great setting. Leaves open ideas on free will and fate. But surprisingly enough, there isn't much a hook at the end of the next episode that makes me froth at the mouth for the next one. The animation is great. Clean and crisp. Soundtrack isn't very memorable, but it doesn't detract from scenes. The only thing that is holding it back is that I am not really able to relate to the characters. They just aren't that interesting to me. I can't really isolate what it is exactly. I also hope this won't boil down into a criminal of the week anime... |
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| Enjoyable episode. It's believable that Sybil System still has some flaws, that's a plus point. Akane is getting more likeable, and Kogami now has an established character. Overall I can't see anything bad with this episode. For those who doesn't like this anime, seriously just drop it and watch it after it finished airing. Have you got too much time on your hand, watching anime that you'd probably hate? |
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Nordhau5 said: @several people: I did drop the show after this episode, so you don't have to worry about me "hating" in future threads. A few random remarks about what some people are saying: Changing your name from "post-moe"? Anyway... Nordhau5 said: 1) This show is not taking risks, in any possible sense of the phrase, and I'm mildly shocked that anyone actually believes that. Well, any anime is a risk-taking venture, but any anime original is viewed in the anime industry as substantially more risky than an adaptation. Psycho-Pass trying not to do the most popular genres can be viewed as a move to be more daring than other anime too. Of course they would also do what they can to introduce elements to try to expand its appeals, but it only reduces the risk not eliminate it. It may not be as risky as an experimental work, but calling it "not taking risks" is going too far. Nordhau5 said: 3) I still don't understand why some (most, it would appear) people encourage one sided discussion. That's not generally how discussion works. Maybe some people are not interested in productive discussion, which is fine, provided they try to understand that some people are. Not sure whom you are aiming this at, but I definitely disagree with people who want one-sided discussion. What I am against (and perhaps a few people here too), is the language used by haters and detractors to color the discussion in mocking and sarcastic term (for example, saying the screenplay writer would be given fail mark in a writing class at your school etc -- what point does it have to mock like this?), which definitely poisons the atmosphere and will not lead to any productive discussion which seems to be your goal after all. |
symbvOct 28, 2012 11:55 PM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Not really interesting,to be honest. It was fine. |
| ignoring this heated argument about whether or not psycho-pass is breaking barriers (which it's not)....... so far, it's been very enjoyable and now is my number 1 most anticipated show of this season. I hope a foreseeable plot/direction of story emerges soon. |
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Roloko said: Akane is so moe they lied about this show not having any. lol agreed. |
| A very good episode, best show of the season hands down. 5/5. Wonder how long it will take for Akane to go rogue. |
kentaseo said: ignoring this heated argument about whether or not psycho-pass is breaking barriers (which it's not)....... because it actually is not, it aims to break the current "trend" in the anime industry and is trying to return to the good old days of 80-ish and 90-ish sci-fi anime its not some puella magi which tried to deconstruct the mahou shoujo genre Sir_Lexa said: Roloko said: Akane is so moe they lied about this show not having any. lol agreed. that's how old school works, some characters are just naturally cute, they aren't designed to be excessively moe where even old characters are e.g. this show http://myanimelist.net/anime/14741/Chuunibyou_demo_Koi_ga_Shitai! |
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Nordhau5 said: @several people: I did drop the show after this episode, so you don't have to worry about me "hating" in future threads. A few random remarks about what some people are saying: 1) This show is not taking risks, in any possible sense of the phrase, and I'm mildly shocked that anyone actually believes that. 2) In response to the "too soon to judge" argument, a writer does not get better throughout the course of a show. Yes, it's very possible that his speciality is late game mind-fucks, or what have you, but if he can't set up a story convincingly, he can't set up a story convincingly. That's the only part I'm judging in this case, since it's the only part I watched. Not to mention that begs the question; what good is a twist when the foundation isn't there? 3) I still don't understand why some (most, it would appear) people encourage one sided discussion. That's not generally how discussion works. Maybe some people are not interested in productive discussion, which is fine, provided they try to understand that some people are. If someone wants to tell me why FLCL sucks, they can do so and I will consider what they have to say. I would say tht it a risk in that it is an anime original and that the genre isnt exactly the most popular out there, i think its one of the lesser genres (i think, but what do i know? xD) What exactly do you mean its not convincing enough? I found the first episodes quite good because they pointed out the flaws in the system and i found it quite entertaining as well :D it looks nice to, and i quite like akane :P i do hope in the next couple of episodes it starts to establish some sort of real plot line though. I also like akane saying she sees them as colleagues and that guy (im bad at names) calling her a fool (wise can predict and avoid mistakes and fools learn from mistakes they make i think it was) As people say i hope its not going to be a crime of the week situation, which i highly doubt it will be as we know kougami has some unfinished business, akane will liekly get dragged into it/help him out. remember the start of episode 1 as well? This is my favorite kind of setting though, thats probably why i like it so far :P |
jimbob1141Oct 31, 2012 10:02 AM
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| I loved this episode. Great action that dude was crazy and the ending was very interesting. |
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| Wow, so the Dominators have a mode in which they can eliminate robots as well? Awesome. Great episode. Shinya can really fight and Akane is growing on me as well. |
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| so akane has chosen to be a fool, trying to understand Enforcers by befriending them lol... not bad that ginoza guy is really cold. i think life in those agencies is so harsh, maybe? finishing shots by kougami... the eye that really looks like hunting dog that has cornered his prey.. damn awesome!!! |
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| OMG AFTER WATCHING EPISODE 3 I FELT A SUDDEN URGE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART IMMA LOVE THIS ANIMEEE *O* EPISODE 3 WAS SUPER AWESOME EVEN THOUGH A BIT COMPLEX BUT I REALLY LIKE IT !! OTAKU MODE - 200% XDD LOL IM SO HYPER HAHAHAHA |
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| Kogami is definitely the most badass character of the season. Hands down! |
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| The merit of this episode starts at 5/10, since it follows what others have laid out before it -- a plot-wise episodic format that incrementally antes up its core themes. Although the plot of Psycho-Pass is somewhat unique, its themes are not. In many ways, this reminds me of something like Witch Hunter Robin. Actually, questions of friendship and the meaning of justice are common in anime. Two things that are further developed in this episode are: 1) the question of what role Enforcers should take, and their relationship with the investigators; and 2) is the Sybil system perfect, and can it be manipulated? What the audience thinks about these two core issues will likely define how well they will enjoy Psycho-Pass. There are a few silly moments in this episode: 1) An anechoic chamber produces no echoes. That factory isn't anywhere close. 2) The "anime logic" (or logic that only makes sense in the insulated mind of a manga author whose introspective inspiration forms some kind of a confirmation bias) that if that worker responds to provocation, he is a criminal; and more importantly, if he does not respond, then he is not a criminal. If that worker had any awareness of the situation, he would not have taken bait. Aside from that, the fight scene at the end shows a little bit of promise. It's not animated as fluidly as K, but Kogami gets to show off his moves. Regardless of everything else, I've come to the conclusion that a very specific kind of people will rate this series very highly, and everyone else will like it for its action, or if they like sci-fi, but it will mostly be mediocre to them. There are 2 types of people in the world: people with a very clearly defined sense of justice, what's right and wrong; and people who see things more relatively, more nuanced. I think Psycho-Pass will appeal highly to the former, who will likely have an instinctual gag response to the Sybil system, and root for Akane to fight against status quo. The 2nd type of people might find this to be a bit self-righteous, one-sided, they will find Akane weak and naive and unappealing, as opposed to identifying with her strong sense of justice. Unfortunately, as I fall in the latter group, I have to give this overalll a 4-5/10. It is an introductory development/bridge/filler episode like there are in any series, and the hackneyed logic of it all counteracts against whatever coolness the setting provides. In the end, I could've watched Episode 3 of any other series with an episodic introductory format, and it would've been a toss-up. |
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jimbob1141 said: Let me respond to this for a second for the sake of discussion, although I doubt many care, and I certainly don't care enough to get into an extended argument. A lot of people here it seems like Psycho-Pass's handling of flaws in the Sybil system. But this is one of the details that leave me scratching my head; in fact I would even go as far to say that it's a major flaw of the anime and completely unrealistic. It makes it seem as if the Psycho-Pass world had spontaneously begun at the start of the anime, and Akane was the only person in the world to realize obvious and fatal errors and it is her responsibility to change the world. But a more reasonable assumption would be that the world of Psycho-Pass had perpetuated itself for hundreds, if not thousands of years (like ours), and over the course of time, this Sybil system developed, and over multiple generations, people have come to accept it. A reasonable assumption would be that there are hundreds, or thousands, of police stations all over the world, and thousands of inspectors, thousands of Enforcers, and that this system has been in place for at least dozens of years. And out of all this time, you'd think that someone would've had the insight into the flaws of the system; and so the system is there either because there's enough bureaucratic red-tape to resist change, or because it's there for a good reason.I found the first episodes quite good because they pointed out the flaws in the system and i found it quite entertaining as well :D Once we reach this understanding of the Psycho-Pass world, we should also come to a different understanding of who Akane is. In the real world, the idealistic, naive types typically don't get very far. Psycho-Pass is not the real world, but it needs to do better convincing us why it's different before we could accept why Akane should be important. I've said in the previous post that people who have high affinity to justice and humanism (and probably pick the "good" ending every time they play in an RPG) will immediately identify with Akane's pursuit of working on equal ground with the Enforcers, and fighting the status quo represented by Ginoza. You may be perplexed that as it stands, I find Ginoza far more interesting that Akane, aside from his little tantrum (which I think, they're going to make him eventually into a mentally unstable type). They are both idealistic, but Ginoza has, presumably, reason for his resolve, being in the job for X years. I'm done with the idealistic naive hero that unites everyone through friendship archetype (e.g. Naruto). |
katsucatsNov 13, 2012 7:02 PM
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katsucats said: A lot of people here it seems like Psycho-Pass's handling of flaws in the Sybil system. But this is one of the details that leave me scratching my head; in fact I would even go as far to say that it's a major flaw of the anime and completely unrealistic. Bad English, not sure what the hell you're saying. katsucats said: It makes it seem as if the Psycho-Pass world had spontaneously begun at the start of the anime, and Akane was the only person in the world to realize obvious and fatal errors and it is her responsibility to change the world. But a more reasonable assumption would be that the world of Psycho-Pass had perpetuated itself for hundreds, if not thousands of years (like ours), and over the course of time, this Sybil system developed, and over multiple generations, people have come to accept it. A reasonable assumption would be that there are hundreds, or thousands, of police stations all over the world, and thousands of inspectors, thousands of Enforcers, and that this system has been in place for at least dozens of years. And out of all this time, you'd think that someone would've had the insight into the flaws of the system; and so the system is there either because there's enough bureaucratic red-tape to resist change, or because it's there for a good reason. Once we reach this understanding of the Psycho-Pass world, we should also come to a different understanding of who Akane is. In the real world, the idealistic, naive types typically don't get very far. Psycho-Pass is not the real world, but it needs to do better convincing us why it's different before we could accept why Akane should be important. I had this same question when I saw the first episode as well. However, I've come to the conclusion that Akane is simply one in a million. We have to simply assume that there are two major characteristics about Akane that separate her from the rest of society. 1) She questions. 2) She adapts. Of course, we also have to assume that Akane had a relatively good childhood, since she maintained these characteristics up until the point that the Anime begins. I think you are raging too much over the fact that we have to assume these things. But here's the thing; if you let your butthurt get the best of you, you're going to miss the important messages that are contained in this Anime. katsukats said: I've said in the previous post that people who have high affinity to justice and humanism (and probably pick the "good" ending every time they play in an RPG) will immediately identify with Akane's pursuit of working on equal ground with the Enforcers, and fighting the status quo represented by Ginoza. You may be perplexed that as it stands, I find Ginoza far more interesting that Akane, aside from his little tantrum (which I think, they're going to make him eventually into a mentally unstable type). They are both idealistic, but Ginoza has, presumably, reason for his resolve, being in the job for X years. I'm done with the idealistic naive hero that unites everyone through friendship archetype (e.g. Naruto). Lol, I can tell you've never seen Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. What you said is true; people, (usually young people), will personally connect to Akane and like her for the wrong, (or rather naive) reasons. But believe me, Urobuchi will not dissapoint. Throughout the course of the next episodes, I can assure you that we will see the flaws and strengths of both characters come out and develop more and more. Remember, this is Urobuchi we're talking about here. |
| It's going to be tough for Akane to even try to change these bunch of predators. |
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| Hmm, Gino just following the rules would have led to a murderer still being on the loose. His attitude is going to bite him in the ass sooner or later without using his instinct, but he had a point about the enforcers. Shinya's talk about being a detective...yeah not when you go around like that. |
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| Amazing! What a risky move to catch the killer. Music was great, the guns were so great. It's getting better each episode. Love Akane and all the characters. I'm really liking the OP and ED now. |
| It seems to me that Gino is a Sybil system fanatic. Maybe because something happened that made him believe human intuition should never be followed or that the Sybil system is flawless but he certainly doesn't like any kind of old fashion detective work. I was surprised that those guns actually work on machines too. I mean how can they read anything from a soulless machine? The machine has no stress levels and certainly not leaning to crime since it simply acts on programming. Can that gun read malicious programming? |
| Hehe, crime story elements I see here. This plan in the end was really nice. Enjoyable and exciting episode, but worse action than first, for me. I really liked that black-haired policemen than name I forgot xd. |
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