| Both a game and anime. Yeah, we all know what it'll be. |
| I think like many I got really excited about the trailler, I thought it would be top 3 of the season, but as always it seems like they spent all their money on the trailler and forgot about the rest. The animation isn't bad, but it's not the best either. From the synopsis I thought music would play a more important role, but it only serves to annoy the D2s. And the worst part is the story, it's developing very slowly and with few responses. We know they need to go to NW to fix Cosette, but who is Cosette? Where did they meet? Why did this idea of going there? What did they see wrong with her at first? So far we haven't had any relevant response, but there was already a plot with Cosette's "death", didn't have time to empathize with the character and it's already gone. 8/10 > 6/10 |
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| OP: A Massive Disappointment Me: Nah! To be disappointed we need to have expectations. I didn't have them in the 1st place, and I'm having a blast! Action scenes, a bit of story, unique characters, good visuals/art, good premises... What more do you want?? A Death Note complex kinda story?? Or a Code Geass epic kind of anime?? Either way, expecting anything other than just a simple anime is just stupid... especially something from a game... Especially an Android game -.- Well, I hope you guys learned your lesson... What the hell am I saying? You never learn! xD Until the next anime then! |
| For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
theGodde said: r_justo said: I was more referring to the concept and world building having incredible potential. So much could have been done with this world and even these characters if there was actual talent and effort invested into the script and directionOP: A Massive Disappointment Me: Nah! To be disappointed we need to have expectations. I didn't have them in the 1st place, and I'm having a blast! Action scenes, a bit of story, unique characters, good visuals/art, good premises... What more do you want?? A Death Note complex kinda story?? Or a Code Geass epic kind of anime?? Either way, expecting anything other than just a simple anime is just stupid... especially something from a game... Especially an Android game -.- Well, I hope you guys learned your lesson... What the hell am I saying? You never learn! xD Until the next anime then! Yah, maybe... Or maybe not! This show is still ongoing and in early episodes, you never know until the end. That's why preliminary reviews are dumb! How can someone review an incomplete thing is beyond my comprehension... |
| For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
| As of episode 6, I'll admit that even though I'm enjoying it for the most part, it's really not that great. All things considered, it comes to be mediocre at best. I mean I still like it, it's decent, but it's not GREAT, you know? Although most of us who were singing its praises early on (including myself) were probably not looking for much in the first place. Maybe we just wanted some solid animation, and a good soundtrack, and if we got that, we'd be happy. Kids back then could entertain themselves for hour with a ball in the backyard. Now kids get angry when their gaming pc is five frames short of reaching 240fps. The kids with gaming set ups probably came into this expecting nothing less than an absolute masterpiece. Meanwhile the rest of us with nothing but a ball saw "Madhouse X Mappa" and were satisfied simply with that. Idk, but I think it all would work really well as a game though. |
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| It's been 6 episodes till now yet it's more or less the same. The only episode that seemed somewhat interesting was probably the 2nd episode with the backstory. I did like the last episode with no action though but nothing too crazy. The roadtrip concept for the story is great but the characters fall flat. It's basically just flashy animation (& ost, but let's be honest most of us don't have heavy knowledge about music) with waifu-bait to promote the upcoming gacha game and so far it seems to be working after seeing weebs lusting over Cosette like another Zero Two/Siesta. But we won't know just how much it "works" until the game Takt op is out with player figures. The enemies called D2 are meh and some parts about the lore is confusing which may or may not change in the future. Mindless enemies in video games are fine and somewhat necessary but in anime where the plot matters more it's pretty boring. I like stories with slow burns but here it seems like a lost cause (so far). Probably will stick around till the end anyways though. |
theGodde said: BetaMaleUltra said: I agree, a lot of my problems with the show wouldn't be relevant if it was a game. As of episode 6, I'll admit that even though I'm enjoying it for the most part, it's really not that great. All things considered, it comes to be mediocre at best. I mean I still like it, it's decent, but it's not GREAT, you know? Although most of us who were singing its praises early on (including myself) were probably not looking for much in the first place. Maybe we just wanted some solid animation, and a good soundtrack, and if we got that, we'd be happy. Kids back then could entertain themselves for hour with a ball in the backyard. Now kids get angry when their gaming pc is five frames short of reaching 240fps. The kids with gaming set ups probably came into this expecting nothing less than an absolute masterpiece. Meanwhile the rest of us with nothing but a ball saw "Madhouse X Mappa" and were satisfied simply with that. Idk, but I think it all would work really well as a game though. but I don't think you quite understand what I meant by the title of this thread. This show isn't a disappointment to me because I had expectations due to the animation of studios in control, but because of the first episode and the story/world building potential. The world building concept had a lot of potential, as did the characters on a surface level. This is a show botched in execution, and once I identified that by around the third episode I was disappointed because I saw what this could have been. In that sense, yeah the wasted potential is overwhelming. It has all the necessary ingredients to make it a modern masterpiece- except the most important one, good writing. It's not compelling enough and it just doesn't flow smoothly from one event to the next. It's kind of like they just threw random stuff on the board and went "Random bullshit, GO!" ...and hope it stuck the landing. It's still FINE for what it is. But it's a road trip story with alien-killing waifus and classical music as a backdrop. It could've been incredible |
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| I agree to the one who said that Music and Animation are the things that carry this show on. As today's week aired the only thing I noticed is the appreciation for jazz and classical music. Tbh I don't care about the plot/story anymore. |
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| I agree. Nothings happening and it's already 6 episodes in. |
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| What a waste of talented animators from 2 top notch animation studios. The story is beyond trash. I'll just continue watching for completion purposes. |
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theGodde said: r_justo said: like how could it possibly change at this point?Yah, maybe... Or maybe not! This show is still ongoing and in early episodes, you never know until the end. That's why preliminary reviews are dumb! How can someone review an incomplete thing is beyond my comprehension... Why would they keep the characters undeveloped for the introduction (where they need the most development out of all) and then magically develop them 7/8 episodes in. Why wouldn't they have the fight strategies constantly evolving and changing the whole time? I don't see what would possess them to actively sabotage their own show if they are capable of writing/choreographing good fight scenes. and while it is true anything could theoretically happen in the episodes yet to be released, that still wouldn't change the fact that at least half this show drags and is horrible. Wich means just that. Half of it (less of half) is not good... It will not be the 1st Anime only developing the characters after some eps. A lot of awesome Animes did the same thing years ago, but they had much more eps than this one. But develop characters is possible until pretty much the last ep. Another thing is comparing storytelling with fight choreographies. Yes, both are hard to achieve... But they aren't the same. And a studio that did a great job on one of them, doesn't mean they will do the same with the other xD Anyway, I'm having a blast! For a 12 eps(?) Anime, is not bad and have great animation. And being based on an android game, I didn't expected even the animation that it has. So I will just enjoy it. That's the reason I watch Animes anyway xD |
| For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
theGodde said: r_justo said: I have never seen a writer who magically decided to be good at writing characters midway through his story. The only time these things happen is when the screenwriter changes during the production. So if there is only one screenwriting credit we can immediately rule out that the characters will ever be good.It will not be the 1st Anime only developing the characters after some eps. A lot of awesome Animes did the same thing years ago, but they had much more eps than this one. But develop characters is possible until pretty much the last ep. With the writing competency on display here they could be considered passable characters if time was invested in attempting to develop them He is just consuming massive amounts of hopium, the main characters are probably doomed to be one note by the virtue of not being developed in 6 build up episodes, the only way that this anime gets better in term of characters is including new characters with a more mature concept and relation with the environment, like Made in Abyss did halfway its airing. The problem is that implies more plot lines, so I doubt that they are going to do something like that, and the animation degradation in the latest episodes is a symptom of something even worse coming |
| Not even a decent music themed anime, I was expecting at least that. They may want to take notes on how to present music themes from established music themed titles of other studios, they don't even have to look that far, from MAPPA's own work, Zombie Land Saga. Anyway, I just play this on background while doing working or doing some things. Glancing here and there. This show is 10/10 for that because I know I'm not missing anything. I can't hate this show for this, at least it's useful to me. |
theGodde said: r_justo said: I have never seen a writer who magically decided to be good at writing characters midway through his story. The only time these things happen is when the screenwriter changes during the production. So if there is only one screenwriting credit we can immediately rule out that the characters will ever be good.It will not be the 1st Anime only developing the characters after some eps. A lot of awesome Animes did the same thing years ago, but they had much more eps than this one. But develop characters is possible until pretty much the last ep. With the writing competency on display here they could be considered passable characters if time was invested in attempting to develop them Did you ever see an anime with more than 12 eps? Late development is not that uncommon, Naruto did it, One Piece did it too, many others also did it as well... For much I dislike the anime, Munou na Nana also did it -.- You should get used to new things... not all of them are bad and they can take you by surprise now and then. |
| For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
| Did Madhouse even make any succesful anime since 2016 ? Especially new franchise, not sequel ? I can only see them as a fallen studio. They were huge long time ago. Death Note, HxH, Monster, Parasyte, and One Punch Man. |
klakson188 said: Did Madhouse even make any succesful anime since 2016 ? Especially new franchise, not sequel ? I can only see them as a fallen studio. They were huge long time ago. Death Note, HxH, Monster, Parasyte, and One Punch Man. I heard "A place further than the Universe" was really amazing and it came out in 2018 and also, it was an original. I've seen a lot of praise for Sonny boy too. |
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Scordolo said: klakson188 said: Did Madhouse even make any succesful anime since 2016 ? Especially new franchise, not sequel ? I can only see them as a fallen studio. They were huge long time ago. Death Note, HxH, Monster, Parasyte, and One Punch Man. I heard "A place further than the Universe" was really amazing and it came out in 2018 and also, it was an original. I've seen a lot of praise for Sonny boy too. Sonny Boy is definitely something special. I didn't personally like it. Plot was messy (changing it's focus from episode to episode, never returning to previously introduced ideas), characters dull (but not irritating/bad). Definitely original but I personally can't accept it because of that. Art direction was unique but one of the cheapest 2D. (so I guess it balances out) It's more niche title. "A place further than the Universe" I don't know anything of. |
klakson188 said: Did Madhouse even make any succesful anime since 2016 ? Especially new franchise, not sequel ? I can only see them as a fallen studio. They were huge long time ago. Death Note, HxH, Monster, Parasyte, and One Punch Man. ACCA: 13-Territory Inspection Dept. (2017), A Place Further than the Universe (2018) and The Vampire Dies in No Time (2021) is going decently. |
theGodde said: alshu said: the Vampire Dies in No Time just feels kinda meh to me. If I were to compare it to something I'd say it has the same energy as the Devil is a Part TimerACCA: 13-Territory Inspection Dept. (2017), A Place Further than the Universe (2018) and The Vampire Dies in No Time (2021) is going decently. Yeah, I like Vampire dies in no time but I wouldn't call it succesful or very good. |
It Wouldn't be dissapointment if it wasn't at least popular/hyped. |
| And now I can confidently say that OP is officially correct. Apart from the little metaphors I described back when ep 3 was out, the only thing the story gained was a generic egocentric villain. SSL443 said: Where are we getting the idea that Takt can't play expressively from? I'm not seeing evidence for the dichotomy in perspective you're suggesting between these characters. All I could tell you then was to rewatch episode 3, since you didn't pay enough attention to it. Either way, as you don't know since you already dropped the show, episode 8 made a point to very clearly state the same I did, through Takt. SSL443 said: Music is popular and touches a lot of people very deeply. Even within the niche of classical music, there is really no such thing as "elites" who only understand the technical side of performance. Such a perspective would be recognized as flawed with little controversy. I never said the elite lacks emotional connection/expression with music. I said Takt lacked it. Elites gatekeeping erudite things was an unrelated statement, and that reality is a fact in any classic art field. This only changed very, very recently. In fact, abstract modern art and pop music are still not seen as artistic, even if the authors made their works with an artistic intent and inspiration. SSL443 said: The real issue here is that the writing in this show is bad, and hasn't presented a coherent picture of what the themes of the narrative are supposed to be. It's just a pretentious attempt to seem artsy by only revealing information in fragments and keeping the audience in the dark as long as possible. Sadly, this is a common tactic of shows that want to appear to have more substance than they really do. (...) It is bad, but I would argue that it's for the inverse reason. This show is too much on the nose. Though some of you guys hadn't noticed what it was trying to do even still... but regardless, dropping it early was a right call, I admit. |
| This could've been a better show if not for the script and story structure. Everything's on point, save for the weak script. This had the potential to be another Rage of Bahamut, and yet we got a King's Raid. The moment they announced Kiyoko Yoshimura doing the series structure in MAPPA Stage, I already had my expectations too low, given her weak portfolio. With such expectations set too low, I am actually finding myself enjoying the whole thing despite the dialogue and script. But this ain't something that I'd rewatch once the whole thing's over. |
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Sheklon said: All I could tell you then was to rewatch episode 3, since you didn't pay enough attention to it. Either way, as you don't know since you already dropped the show, episode 8 made a point to very clearly state the same I did, through Takt. What about episode 3? Would it kill you to explain what you're talking about? |
SSL443 said: Sheklon said: All I could tell you then was to rewatch episode 3, since you didn't pay enough attention to it. Either way, as you don't know since you already dropped the show, episode 8 made a point to very clearly state the same I did, through Takt. What about episode 3? Would it kill you to explain what you're talking about? Yes, it'd actually be annoying to look up scenes just to describe them for a random on the internet, honestly. As for explaining, I already did... The episode had a scene where Cosette literally showed a piece to Takt and talked about the meaning behind the music and how it made her feel, and Takt seemed at least slightly affected by it. We also had her insist that he played on that event while he said he didn't believe he could convince/reach the public. It's all very clear, I really don't know why you need further explanation. I assume you might have watched with different subtitles that maybe changed the dialogue a bit. But I'm pretty certain that they even use the word "kokoro" (heart, mind, emotions) when referring to what music affects. |
| Cover art poster: Road trip anime??!! Actual anime: Not a road trip anime. Smh |
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| Idk there was literally nothing about this anime that showed this has potential. The concept is something that is probably been shown in various games and game adaptations before, obviously not in the exact same way but pretty much similar. The script writer has not written anything that can be considered as good. Moreover, it's a multi-media project mainly created to advertise the game in the long run, and how many of those even work out, like 1% out of every game adaptation that has ever existed. I don't want to sound like an elitist but I seriously can't fathom how there are people who expected this to have even a decent script. |
Etherius_ZS said: Idk there was literally nothing about this anime that showed this has potential. The concept is something that is probably been shown in various games and game adaptations before, obviously not in the exact same way but pretty much similar. The script writer has not written anything that can be considered as good. Moreover, it's a multi-media project mainly created to advertise the game in the long run, and how many of those even work out, like 1% out of every game adaptation that has ever existed. I don't want to sound like an elitist but I seriously can't fathom how there are people who expected this to have even a decent script. It's easy to get trapped in wishing a show to be what it isn't. I was interested in the concept but it only took two episodes to see it would disappoint me. |
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theGodde said: it pretended to be a road trip anime for a little bit before giving up and devolving into a nonsensical battle shonen Just because there is action doesn't make it battle shounen. |
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theGodde said: what constitutes a battle shonen for you? it's got a power system with a variety of unique abilities, a narrative focus on fights and battles as the main form of conflict between characters, A large cast of different super-characters with quirky personalities, training episodes and powerups during fights, a mentor that dies dramatically at the beginning of the third act, and a grouchy protagonist accompanied by two love interests. What part of it is not a battle shonen? Being published in shounen magazine, because shounen is demographics not genre. Battle seinens also exist. There is no power system here. It's just a smartphoneshit/gacha advertisement. Like Fateshit grand order adaptations. Some of your arguments apply to shitload of different stories (like original Star Wars) because these tropes are older than manga. |
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| I come from the future, this show really is "A Massive Disappointment." |
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| Proof that flashy animation is no substitute for good writing and story. The ending was a whole load of meh and I never really understood the motivation of the enemy |
| What really makes me sad is watching the ED. A calming song showing our three main characters on a road trip together. THAT'S the anime I wanted, the anime I thought we were going to get from looking at the cover art. Our main characters standing around the car, probably on some interstate highway, in the middle of a journey together. They'd have some mishaps along the way, they'd meet new people, they'd play music, and ultimately bond closer together than ever before. Could've made for a simple yet truly heartfelt story. But instead we get this, whatever this is. |
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