86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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byKazna said: Nurguburu said: Can someone explain to me why Fido get destroyed? Did I miss something? This episode was kinda sad and I didn't expect the aftermath of the last battle from the surviving members from Eighty-Six point of view. I think we're going to see the Republic's side in the final episode or I could be wrong. I think that the Fido destruction thing is yet to come chronologically. If you pay attention to the dates, you would notice. If I remember correctly, last events that we were shown "in real time" happened around mid October, whereas the last Fido's scene took place in late October. I predict we'll see what was going on in next episode. I'm wondering if they'll pivot to Lena's perspective for the last episode and leave what's about to happen to Spearhead for the start of the second cour. Whatever they do I "JUST WANT A HAPPY ENDING" I don't think I can take another episode of being lulled into a false sense of security and then getting hit with a feels bomb. |
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| Fido is the best character in the show. |
| Amazing! Simply Amazing. It's been a long time since I've felt emotional watching an episode. Seeing the five surviving members of the Spearhead squadron being free from the Republic put a smile to my face. Especially Shin. They all suffered a lot. The second half of the episode with the Fido montage was incredible. Fido was there from the start. Seeing the wishes of everyone at the start and, seeing and knowing the fate of them, like Haruto and Daiya, was really sad. :( An outstanding adaptation from A-1. |
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| I wonder if Figo can be considered alive in the same sense as the Legion's black shepards; And if so, can shin hear Figo? That seems to be somewhat implied with comments on how Shin can understand Figo so well, even though his (her? :flushed:) movements are very limited. |
imSOunique said: Angel_crush1 said: If it weren't for shin all of them could have died already cause shin have some kind of ability and he's the best fighter in 86 and he's a kind guy that all in the district something 1 respect him and shin didn't want to drag in he's team from his own problems just because all of his selfishness it was shown recently in ep 9 it was their own decision to support shin you should rewatch it if you don't understand anything or maybe just dropped it if you really can't enjoyed cause to much of dialogs........ well if you're problem of the series is only this then good you're problem has been solved What I am saying that apparently they could have just run away ages ago, if Shin would have decided so (all others seem to be unable to act on their own, they need to follow Shin like sheep), but instead, he decided to sacrifice most of them to wait for a chance to destroy a computer with a recording of his long-dead brother on it. Also, they probably have a better chance of running away without Shin as he is a walking legion magnet. Also, it is so funny, that in this anime we seem to be mourning a machine getting destroyed a lot more than when actual people die. They could never have "run away" the only reason they're still alive is because Lena "cleared a path" for them. On the other sorties you can be sure they did not take extensive supplies with them. Shin didn't sacrifice anyone, he prolonged the lives of many. It was remarked that no other "Special Recon" mission had gone out with so many surviving members of Spearhead. You'll find that the posters saying each individual's death meant nothing to them are the haters, you know your gang... Every death meant something to me The point of Fido's death isn't just the loss of a long time companion but the reminder of all the others we got to know and the loss of that precious record of the moments of their painfully short lives. (Hmm, just the thing the Republic is trying to erase) Honestly you're coming off as pretty nasty with your angle on things. |
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| Very emotional episode, Fido's death caught me off guard and some invisible tears happened. Now, this is confusing the hell out of me, but I do not remember many of the squadron's deaths at all. I don't even think these happened. I went back to watch the final scenes of every episode opening to see which ones died and skimmed through every episode to find these deaths, but I just didn't find how everyone died. I just remember Kaie and Daiya. I swear the anime just showed how one of the girls from this trio died, the rest I don't even know.  I only remember how the middle one died. What about the other two? Offtopic: Having bad reviewers in the anime page makes me not want to come back and write in these forums. It is a terrible fucking idea to let "people" write a review whilst not having finished the show, AT LEAST. And my reports get denied because of freedom of speech. Good riddance. |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
| I wonder how Fido gets his energy. It might be fuel so hopefully he doesn't run out. But it would be best if it was solar energy. Edit: I just saw the end of the episode. I think his energy source is his smallest problem rn. |
Schlong01Jun 13, 2021 3:07 PM
| Ah a time of solace. After that grueling end to their mission, now they are free. Although I was not expecting Fido's POV like bloopers. That hit melo until the cliffhanger. Hope he's alright. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| That was a really beautiful opening sequence. A very calm episode this time. That Fido sequence was also very beautiful. Man, the entire anime is just beautiful. |
| Man this episode was feeling like a nice lighthearted change from the other episodes. Then came the ending of the episode. Seeing all the moments from Fido’s POV with the music in the background was great but was also an obvious death flag for him. RIP Fido. Also, does anyone else love all of the music in this show as much as I do? The OP, ED, and background music are awesome imo. |
imSOunique said: Angel_crush1 said: If it weren't for shin all of them could have died already cause shin have some kind of ability and he's the best fighter in 86 and he's a kind guy that all in the district something 1 respect him and shin didn't want to drag in he's team from his own problems just because all of his selfishness it was shown recently in ep 9 it was their own decision to support shin you should rewatch it if you don't understand anything or maybe just dropped it if you really can't enjoyed cause to much of dialogs........ well if you're problem of the series is only this then good you're problem has been solved What I am saying that apparently they could have just run away ages ago, if Shin would have decided so (all others seem to be unable to act on their own, they need to follow Shin like sheep), but instead, he decided to sacrifice most of them to wait for a chance to destroy a computer with a recording of his long-dead brother on it. Also, they probably have a better chance of running away without Shin as he is a walking legion magnet. Also, it is so funny, that in this anime we seem to be mourning a machine getting destroyed a lot more than when actual people die. as far as what I understand from the show, running away into Legion's territory means suicide! they couldn't run away especially with so many ppl and no resources! and in the beginning, some of them thought they would survive if they fought for 6 months, they didn't know the truth. it was a suicide squad anyway so they decided to accomplish something before they die! |
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| I wonder why Fido had to die. I felt it coming as soon as I realized the camera POV was Fido's lens. Feels like a symbolic way to leave the past behind... this show hits the right chords with me, definitely knows how to pull the strings of emotion. Looking forward to the season finale. |
| That 86 episode was freaking sad when Fido died at the end, capturing all the memories of the 86 gang. |
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| I was unsure of what was gonna happen after they went into uncharted territory. Episode 9 was action packed and this episode provided some much needed respite. The ending montage from Fido's perspective was also phenomenal. I do wonder how Lena is going to be reintegrated with the story tho. Thus i shall read the light novel. |
| This was beautiful but somehow not. 13th October 2148 everything looked good for the group actually, ....30th October 2148 :( Poor support unit, it was so beautiful how Fido went through all the memories stored, in a quite cinematic way. Kurena was so funny there *sweet*. Kind of very sweet memories, aside from unfair fighting conditions a 86's life wasn't all that grim. This is just my speculation, without Fido there is little they can do, if no miracle happens they will either get blown up or starve to death. But they have all accepted their fate since a long time already. Its still fascinating that they show this attitude without complaining actually. |
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| Fido's memories gave me life, but WTF with that cliffhanger! Please don't kill off Fido!! NOOO!!! |
 "Are you intoxicated, or just insane?" |
| Anyone dying: I sleep Fido dying: NOOOOOOO The after credits scene was very neat, but my lack of attachment to anyone but Shin hurt it pretty hard, still worth praise for the directing nonetheless. |
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| Someone PLEASE SPOIL ME ... does the dude and the general meet iRL ? If yes, what volume of the novel? |
UTMAN said: Noir_Alchemist said: Someone PLEASE SPOIL ME ... does the dude and the general meet iRL ? If yes, what volume of the novel? Can you SPOIL ME AGAIN, would they talk again? Or since they are out of range, does that mean the next 2 LN volumes will be like 2 separate lines, typical her story and his story ? |
| A much better episode without Lena in it. The feels were up and the emo was down. |
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imSOunique said: borderliner said: They could never have "run away" the only reason they're still alive is because Lena "cleared a path" for them. On the other sorties you can be sure they did not take extensive supplies with them. Shin didn't sacrifice anyone, he prolonged the lives of many. It was remarked that no other "Special Recon" mission had gone out with so many surviving members of Spearhead. They usually beat back the robots with realatvie ease, so when there were a lot more of the squad, they proabably could have cleared a way for themselves. Now they have already seen a tons of new robots (from a lot closer than usual, usually only radar picks them up, but now they saw them with their own eyes), so if the robots didn't "aggro" on them now, they probably could have avoided them earlier too. Now compared to previous times, NOTHING has changed, the robots are still out there (they destroyed plenty of robots in a fight before too), but now apparently they can go free. borderliner said: You'll find that the posters saying each individual's death meant nothing to them are the haters, you know your gang... Every death meant something to me The point of Fido's death isn't just the loss of a long time companion but the reminder of all the others we got to know and the loss of that precious record of the moments of their painfully short lives. (Hmm, just the thing the Republic is trying to erase) We are saying this, because the anime did very little to make us care about the characters, and in the anime 99% of the time, other characters don't give a sht about their teammates dying, so why would we? So far fido's death is the only that they presented as "sad". borderliner said: Honestly you're coming off as pretty nasty with your angle on things. Sorry to bother you with logic. Logic is a dangerous weapon to bring to a sci-fi show, it requires a comprehensive understanding of the in world rules, not trying to shoehorn in real world logic. You consistently demonstrate that you misunderstand these rules, and even go further in denying them once another poster explains how things work. Of course some stuff is close to real world but you even get that logic wrong. The standard Legion are easy, but they are many. Silly you for not understanding the difference between an individual and a swarm. Go try it out with hornets. Supply lines rule, try turning off the water and electric to your house and see how long it stays pleasant. Top marks again for empathy. Oh look someone died, but they didn't make ME care. You sound like an Alba !! Individual deaths can be sad regardless of what we know about those who die. Don't you feel sad each time there's another mass shooting news story? The sadness comes from understanding the circumstances, not knowing the individuals. And you think the other Spearhead members don't give a shit, this really shows how little empathy you have. |
borderlinerJun 16, 2021 5:51 AM
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| Such a wholesome episode. Much needed. It's this downtime, the interludes between the story that set this show apart. Giving us time to absorb everything. Fido's whole perspective was so refreshing. Like seeing a recap of everything we know with more detail. Haruto :( Kureha's (?) little girly rants. Shin's private moment with Lena, promising to survive. You know, the second in this episode where they were like "Shin, how can you understand Fido so well?" I'm like, bruh, Fido's an 86 trapped in this robot isn't he? (anime only viewer here, just a theory) |
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| Well,that was a nice episode,extremely well done,it was good to see Shin and the rest enjoying their freedom. And then they showed the Fido recap! Holy crap,that nearly had me in tears! - It was so good,and yet so sad,and then to see what happened to Fido,damn,that was heartbreaking! The studio has outdone themselves yet again.All the way through this anime so far,they have shown how capable they are at putting together a series that pulls emotions in all directions. |
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| Like i'm sure this is a good adaptation and all but i really don't give a shit about ANY of them except maybe Shin a bit, so that montage at the end did nothing but bore me. |
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| It was all so happy until the end :'( |
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| NNOOO FIDOOO WHY U WHY U DAREEEEEE |
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| Pure speculation. Was the research that created Fido somehow related to the Legion? |
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| Holy jesus that ending sequence with Fido. I'm fucking shattered Wha? wha nooooooo It just keeps getting sadder and sadder :( |
Hatsuyuki said: Like i'm sure this is a good adaptation and all but i really don't give a shit about ANY of them except maybe Shin a bit, so that montage at the end did nothing but bore me. It's fine, it's fine. I don't know what you usually watch, but if what you saw so far didn't impress the hell out of you, then this is probably not for you 🤤 |
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