86 Episode 5 Discussion

May 9, 2021 7:51 PM

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Hmm brains getting reused eh? Interesting how they did it though.

When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because.

May 9, 2021 8:52 PM

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Emotional episode to watch. I hope this anime has a great adaptation of the source.

May 9, 2021 10:16 PM

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sarcasmosrevenge said:
Emotional episode to watch. I hope this anime has a great adaptation of the source.

Yeah definitely 💯

May 9, 2021 11:36 PM

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How the fuck is this series still no gotten at 8 plus rating like wtf every episodes just get better this is amazing i would say the score in mal should be 8.20 plus by now and the last scene when shin and his brother i was really surprised and for some reason shin was so cool when he face into the mirror.....

May 10, 2021 12:18 AM

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Angel_crush1 said:
How the fuck is this series still no gotten at 8 plus rating like wtf every episodes just get better this is amazing i would say the score in mal should be 8.20 plus by now and the last scene when shin and his brother i was really surprised and for some reason shin was so cool when he face into the mirror.....

They're waiting for the ending probably. But its going up slowly 👍

May 10, 2021 4:59 AM

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UTMAN said:

imSOunique said:

that's an awfully bad design :D
the robots are so smart they are copying friggin brains, cannot they just edit the code, not to make themselves expire?
I already know how the anime will end, someone hacks into their network and DDOS-es them :D
or someone memorizes a computer virus, goes out, dies, they read his brain and all get infected

Well it was designed this way on purpose by the Giad Empire, so if the Legion goes rogue it cannot do a world domination and die out. :D
Well I don't know about the rest of the stuff you brought up. I've only read the first volume of the LN. The rest is still arriving. :D

I assume it's not the code where the expiration date is hidden. It's just the phisical lifespan of the artificial brain that they use. After 10 years it becomes usless and just cannot be copied

Nice theories. Idk how would they be able to defeat this. The 10th volume will hit the market soon in Japan. Idk if they even fight against the Legion at that point. So I have literally no idea. :D

Wow, this thing has 10 volumes?
I so don't like these endless things, the anime, even the 2nd season will just end with "read the LN suckers"
It makes me question that what is even the point of watching.

imSOuniqueMay 10, 2021 5:03 AM

May 10, 2021 5:32 AM

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imSOunique said:

UTMAN said:

Well it was designed this way on purpose by the Giad Empire, so if the Legion goes rogue it cannot do a world domination and die out. :D
Well I don't know about the rest of the stuff you brought up. I've only read the first volume of the LN. The rest is still arriving. :D

I assume it's not the code where the expiration date is hidden. It's just the phisical lifespan of the artificial brain that they use. After 10 years it becomes usless and just cannot be copied

Nice theories. Idk how would they be able to defeat this. The 10th volume will hit the market soon in Japan. Idk if they even fight against the Legion at that point. So I have literally no idea. :D

Wow, this thing has 10 volumes?
I so don't like these endless things, the anime, even the 2nd season will just end with "read the LN suckers"
It makes me question that what is even the point of watching.

don't watch drop it instead of screwing around

May 10, 2021 8:12 AM

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imSOunique said:

UTMAN said:

Well it was designed this way on purpose by the Giad Empire, so if the Legion goes rogue it cannot do a world domination and die out. :D
Well I don't know about the rest of the stuff you brought up. I've only read the first volume of the LN. The rest is still arriving. :D

I assume it's not the code where the expiration date is hidden. It's just the phisical lifespan of the artificial brain that they use. After 10 years it becomes usless and just cannot be copied

Nice theories. Idk how would they be able to defeat this. The 10th volume will hit the market soon in Japan. Idk if they even fight against the Legion at that point. So I have literally no idea. :D

Wow, this thing has 10 volumes?
I so don't like these endless things, the anime, even the 2nd season will just end with "read the LN suckers"
It makes me question that what is even the point of watching.

Well the first volume was written for a competition and the main condition for every LN to enter is that it should be able to stand on its own. So good news for you the LN volume 1 closes nicely the story.

May 10, 2021 10:34 AM

#159

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I think ik Y I am liking this so much

First of all the direction is great
The anime adaptation nailed this (i haven't read light novel but to think that even with such a fast pacing I can like characters and understand plot is a really good thing ) it's 8 for me right now As much as I liked fumetsu no Anatae's 1st ep ...gotta admit that the other episodes didn't look that special to me There are many anime like that ...well I won't degrade it that much cuz ik an anime can make a sudden comeback and who knows that if it is even adapting it's best part

Anyways I'm liking this anime It's currently my no.2 of the season after fruits basket (season 3)

What I am liking about this is how it's quality doesn't drop as each ep air
And many mechas only focus on robot fighting ( this is mecha right ?) That's y I like how it is focusing on discrimination and maybe how this girl "lena" will try to change the world

Well looking forward to more episodes

Fav ep yet :- ep 4

May 11, 2021 10:10 AM

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I'm glad to see Shin's character delved into this episode. And holy fuck, the incompetence of the republic high command is just... baffling. Now we have got the true nature of the legion, I feel like it's an insurmountable task for Lena to deal with on her own. Facing an army of legions like that would need the coordinated effort of a whole organization, not just piecemeal individuals.

Still, I'm looking forward to seeing how this will play out.

May 11, 2021 1:47 PM

#161

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SSL443 said:
Well, I've made it this far and I can say for certain that I do not care for this anime. The pacing is all over the place, the animation of the CGI portions is unattractive and clunky, and the characterization is jarring, cliched, and unconvincing.

Probably the worst aspect, though, is the handling of mature sociopolitical themes. In a competent piece, these would be approached with some kind of nuance. But here, the dialogue surrounding these issues is constructed of a series of preachy, prescriptive platitudes that feel like they were pulled right off of Twitter, rather than deep character dialogue borne of hard life experiences or complex internal struggles.

In other words, the writer of this story comes off like they have zero experience with issues they are trying to explore, particularly with regards to race and class differences. These topics tend to be avoided for a reason, and this story does nothing to buck the trend.

I'm not surprised to see this series doing well, though. It wouldn't be the first super-cringer to take off, like Shield Hero, Goblin Slayer, or Darling in the Franxx. All of these had the comment element of dealing with mature themes in a really hamfisted way, but having enough fanservice and wish fullfillment to keep anyone pulled in as long as they didn't try to think too hard. Wouldn't even be surprised to see 86 become AOTS.

I love how blatantly untrue most of this is.

1. The pacing is fine. It's adapting around one chapter an episode and it's worked really well so far.

2. Uh the CG is smooth. I don't know how much CG you've seen, but this is pretty fluid.

3. On the characterization portion, yeah it's not the most deep but we're only 5 episodes in. Notable development doesn't happen that fast but I will agree that not many characters have been deeply explored yet.

4. "Super cringer" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Comparing this to stuff like Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer is incredibly idiotic. This series (especially later) has barely any fanservice or wish fulfillment. The preachy dialogue coming from characters like Lena makes sense, especially considering her background. No it doesn't have to be "deep" dialogue. Not everything has to be "deep" and it wouldn't make sense for their interactions to be like that in the first place.

May 11, 2021 3:53 PM

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SakayanagiCOTE said:

1. The pacing is fine. It's adapting around one chapter an episode and it's worked really well so far.

Indeed? Someone elsewhere was telling me the pacing was in fact too slow, so go figure.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

2. Uh the CG is smooth. I don't know how much CG you've seen, but this is pretty fluid.

The animation looks unrealistic and physically implausible.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

3. On the characterization portion, yeah it's not the most deep but we're only 5 episodes in. Notable development doesn't happen that fast but I will agree that not many characters have been deeply explored yet.

If I had a dollar for every time someone used this excuse, I'd be retired already.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

4. "Super cringer" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Comparing this to stuff like Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer is incredibly idiotic. This series (especially later) has barely any fanservice or wish fulfillment.

The point of comparison was the popularity of mediocre to bad shows. We could talk about parallels between this show and those, if you like, in more detail.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

The preachy dialogue coming from characters like Lena makes sense, especially considering her background. No it doesn't have to be "deep" dialogue. Not everything has to be "deep" and it wouldn't make sense for their interactions to be like that in the first place.

It's coming from more characters than Lena. And the point is, the dialogue in these scenes is cliched when it is clearly trying to be say something deep, as in with relation to an over-arching message or theme of the story. "There is pudding here, and not there." "I'm not one of those losers who just talks and does nothing." Okay, got it.

May 11, 2021 6:07 PM

#163

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OMG! Is brain of Shinei's brother in one of the Legions?!

"Are you intoxicated, or just insane?"

May 11, 2021 7:26 PM

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I find some anime only misunderstood about the black sheep.

The legion don't use human physical brain in their system, but they're copying the brain structure to bypass their processor time limit.

May 11, 2021 9:40 PM

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We get to know a bit of Mirizé past and we finally learn more about the Legion and the "Black Sheep".

May 11, 2021 11:15 PM

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Kawai__Imouto said:
And many mechas only focus on robot fighting ( this is mecha right ?)

Other mechas focus on robots fighting, just as how much 86 is focusing on it.

May 11, 2021 11:28 PM

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SSL443 said:

SakayanagiCOTE said:

1. The pacing is fine. It's adapting around one chapter an episode and it's worked really well so far.

Indeed? Someone elsewhere was telling me the pacing was in fact too slow, so go figure.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

2. Uh the CG is smooth. I don't know how much CG you've seen, but this is pretty fluid.

The animation looks unrealistic and physically implausible.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

3. On the characterization portion, yeah it's not the most deep but we're only 5 episodes in. Notable development doesn't happen that fast but I will agree that not many characters have been deeply explored yet.

If I had a dollar for every time someone used this excuse, I'd be retired already.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

4. "Super cringer" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Comparing this to stuff like Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer is incredibly idiotic. This series (especially later) has barely any fanservice or wish fulfillment.

The point of comparison was the popularity of mediocre to bad shows. We could talk about parallels between this show and those, if you like, in more detail.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

The preachy dialogue coming from characters like Lena makes sense, especially considering her background. No it doesn't have to be "deep" dialogue. Not everything has to be "deep" and it wouldn't make sense for their interactions to be like that in the first place.

It's coming from more characters than Lena. And the point is, the dialogue in these scenes is cliched when it is clearly trying to be say something deep, as in with relation to an over-arching message or theme of the story. "There is pudding here, and not there." "I'm not one of those losers who just talks and does nothing." Okay, got it.

SSL443 said:

SakayanagiCOTE said:

1. The pacing is fine. It's adapting around one chapter an episode and it's worked really well so far.

Indeed? Someone elsewhere was telling me the pacing was in fact too slow, so go figure.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

2. Uh the CG is smooth. I don't know how much CG you've seen, but this is pretty fluid.

The animation looks unrealistic and physically implausible.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

3. On the characterization portion, yeah it's not the most deep but we're only 5 episodes in. Notable development doesn't happen that fast but I will agree that not many characters have been deeply explored yet.

If I had a dollar for every time someone used this excuse, I'd be retired already.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

4. "Super cringer" is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Comparing this to stuff like Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer is incredibly idiotic. This series (especially later) has barely any fanservice or wish fulfillment.

The point of comparison was the popularity of mediocre to bad shows. We could talk about parallels between this show and those, if you like, in more detail.

SakayanagiCOTE said:

The preachy dialogue coming from characters like Lena makes sense, especially considering her background. No it doesn't have to be "deep" dialogue. Not everything has to be "deep" and it wouldn't make sense for their interactions to be like that in the first place.

It's coming from more characters than Lena. And the point is, the dialogue in these scenes is cliched when it is clearly trying to be say something deep, as in with relation to an over-arching message or theme of the story. "There is pudding here, and not there." "I'm not one of those losers who just talks and does nothing." Okay, got it.

all the things you mentioned are your own problem the anime can't do anything about it i have seen many positive comments about the animation characters dialogue and enjoyment that means you need to correct your eyes or your brain instead of criticising small things .you should have dropped it by now if you are not enjoying but you are trying to act smart.it's your own problem that the animation dialogues characters are not convincing you .

May 11, 2021 11:38 PM

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futureviewer said:
all the things you mentioned are your own problem the anime can't do anything about it i have seen many positive comments about the animation characters dialogue and enjoyment that means you need to correct your eyes or your brain instead of criticising small things .you should have dropped it by now if you are not enjoying but you are trying to act smart.it's your own problem that the animation dialogues characters are not convincing you .

Nah. It's not a problem. When I can point to specific details and compare and contrast them with other anime, it isn't solely a matter of personal perspective. There's ultimately always a subjective aspect to it, but the features and differences are there objectively.

A lot of anime that I've found to be super questionable have been adaptations from popular Light Novels. And I've noticed parallels in how fans of these series go about defending them and excusing deficiencies. To me, this is a hint that the cause is the way light novels tend to be written, i.e. badly.

May 12, 2021 12:12 AM

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SSL443 said:

futureviewer said:
all the things you mentioned are your own problem the anime can't do anything about it i have seen many positive comments about the animation characters dialogue and enjoyment that means you need to correct your eyes or your brain instead of criticising small things .you should have dropped it by now if you are not enjoying but you are trying to act smart.it's your own problem that the animation dialogues characters are not convincing you .

Nah. It's not a problem. When I can point to specific details and compare and contrast them with other anime, it isn't solely a matter of personal perspective. There's ultimately always a subjective aspect to it, but the features and differences are there objectively.

A lot of anime that I've found to be super questionable have been adaptations from popular Light Novels. And I've noticed parallels in how fans of these series go about defending them and excusing deficiencies. To me, this is a hint that the cause is the way light novels tend to be written, i.e. badly.

ok ok i get it you are very smart i'm waiting for your criticism in next episode thread don't bother replying me I'm just a biased fan who has enjoyed a fictional work without trying to act smart and comparing with other works take care.

May 12, 2021 12:18 AM

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SSL443 said:

The animation looks unrealistic and physically implausible.

Welcome to anime series, kid, of which 99.9% look unrealistic and over-exaggerated.

On the other hand, what is the point of watching a tv show with so many flaws (according to your somewhat far-fetched opinion), and not just passing by and looking for something that best suits your refined tastes?

May 12, 2021 12:22 AM

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ulon said:

Welcome to anime series, kid, of which 99.9% look unrealistic and over-exaggerated.

On the other hand, what is the point of watching a tv show with so many flaws (according to your somewhat far-fetched opinion), and not just passing by and looking for something that best suits your refined tastes?

This is your first post on the forums? Why?

futureviewer said:
ok ok i get it you are very smart i'm waiting for your criticism in next episode thread don't bother replying me I'm just a biased fan who has enjoyed a fictional work without trying to act smart and comparing with other works take care.

Oh it'll be there, don't worry.

May 12, 2021 12:28 AM

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SSL443 said:

ulon said:

Welcome to anime series, kid, of which 99.9% look unrealistic and over-exaggerated.

On the other hand, what is the point of watching a tv show with so many flaws (according to your somewhat far-fetched opinion), and not just passing by and looking for something that best suits your refined tastes?

This is your first post on the forums? Why?

that matters? lol, do I have to have a minimum amount of comments to answer something?

May 12, 2021 8:08 AM

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Nah. It's not a problem. When I can point to specific details and compare and contrast them with other anime, it isn't solely a matter of personal perspective. There's ultimately always a subjective aspect to it, but the features and differences are there objectively.

And since you have the likes of Kill La Kill and Fate Stay Night (2006) on your favorites I can just discard anything you say about objectivity because obviously there's something wrong with your framework there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2pDrrxzjFU

"tHe FeAtuReS aNd DiFfErEnCeS aRe ThErE oBjEcTiVeLy"

I agree.

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May 12, 2021 8:15 AM

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ulon said:

that matters? lol, do I have to have a minimum amount of comments to answer something?

It's myanimelist, the only active population here is gatekeeping 30-year-olds who live in their mother's basements. Of course you require a minimum number of comments and need to exist on the site for at least 10 years before you can even look their way.

May 12, 2021 12:24 PM

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Vague0 said:

Kawai__Imouto said:
And many mechas only focus on robot fighting ( this is mecha right ?)

Other mechas focus on robots fighting, just as how much 86 is focusing on it.

what I mean is that mostly in Mecha genre 86 too is just robot fighting Now that I think of it maybe it just another 8/10 anime but that doesn't change the fact that it's the first one to make me realize that a Mecha can have a 'well structed" plot around it Since most Mecha are "anime original" their story is kinda messy Even code Geass ( I like it quite a lot because of its ending and all the factors that got me thrilled or even emotional but not because of the Mecha In the end when I take even cg ...it feels like it's trying it's best to give it's Mecha a plot .... Don't get me wrong I like it but that's just what I want to say It is not "well structed" maybe because they are anime original while this is a LN )

May 12, 2021 1:31 PM

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imSOunique said:

UTMAN said:

Well it was designed this way on purpose by the Giad Empire, so if the Legion goes rogue it cannot do a world domination and die out. :D
Well I don't know about the rest of the stuff you brought up. I've only read the first volume of the LN. The rest is still arriving. :D

I assume it's not the code where the expiration date is hidden. It's just the phisical lifespan of the artificial brain that they use. After 10 years it becomes usless and just cannot be copied

Nice theories. Idk how would they be able to defeat this. The 10th volume will hit the market soon in Japan. Idk if they even fight against the Legion at that point. So I have literally no idea. :D

Wow, this thing has 10 volumes?
I so don't like these endless things, the anime, even the 2nd season will just end with "read the LN suckers"
It makes me question that what is even the point of watching.

Anime series are primarily used as advertisement for the source material.

I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.

May 12, 2021 1:35 PM

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progress3000 said:

And since you have the likes of Kill La Kill and Fate Stay Night (2006) on your favorites I can just discard anything you say about objectivity because obviously there's something wrong with your framework there.

Thanks for pointing that out. I actually dropped Kill la Kill, not sure why it ended up in my favorites. Removed now.

Fate Stay Night was one of the first anime I saw and got me into the Fate series. It is obviously pretty bad, but it has a certain sentimental value to me for that reason. Plus, it gives people easy fodder for personal attacks, which ends up being a good indication they are not going to be providing interesting discussion.

May 12, 2021 2:40 PM

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Thanks for pointing that out. I actually dropped Kill la Kill, not sure why it ended up in my favorites. Removed now.

Also giving

Fate Stay Night was one of the first anime I saw and got me into the Fate series. It is obviously pretty bad, but it has a certain sentimental value to me for that reason. Plus, it gives people easy fodder for personal attacks, which ends up being a good indication they are not going to be providing interesting discussion.

Spinelessly throwing out the "sEnTiMeNtAl vAlUe" despite supposedly having such an objective view on things.

Imagine your highest-rated shows being the likes of fucking Your Name and Unlimited Blade Works and 3 other shows you put above a 9 but you feel the need to talk about objectivity, and then you take offense and start making excuses in real-time to keep your facade as some superior taste elitist.

As expected of a regular MAL forum user. Good luck with life, you'll need it.

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May 12, 2021 4:25 PM

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progress3000 said:

Spinelessly throwing out the "sEnTiMeNtAl vAlUe" despite supposedly having such an objective view on things.

Imagine your highest-rated shows being the likes of fucking Your Name and Unlimited Blade Works and 3 other shows you put above a 9 but you feel the need to talk about objectivity, and then you take offense and start making excuses in real-time to keep your facade as some superior taste elitist.

As expected of a regular MAL forum user. Good luck with life, you'll need it.

Imagine flipping out because someone used the word "objective," without even understanding why or how it was used.

If you have such a low opinion of regular MAL forum users, why are you even here? Talk about needing luck with life.

Also, imagine creating an alt account so no one can see the shows you've watched or how you've rated them. Pretty spicy.

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May 12, 2021 4:48 PM

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OMG She asked their names? What a saint!

Bruh, at least some Albas tried to help the 86. She's not even trying that. I thought she would try to change the system and bring equality or sth, but lol.

May 12, 2021 5:13 PM

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SSL443 said:

Imagine flipping out because someone used the word "objective," without even understanding why or how it was used.

If you have such a low opinion of regular MAL forum users, why are you even here? Talk about needing luck with life.

Also, imagine creating an alt account so no one can see the shows you've watched or how you've rated them. Pretty spicy.

And the elitist crumbles, keep diverting attention away from your nonsense about being able to "objectively" say anything when you have so much "sentimental" value for trash and rate other trash/mediocre shit so high. Literally the stereotypical "I'm so cultured having an average rating of 5 based on my super special ranking method that makes me feel smart".

Also

- 7-year-old account with these post being the first posts ever on it
- "he's using an alt!"

Absolute delusion.

May 12, 2021 5:18 PM

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progress3000 said:

- 7-year-old account with these post being the first posts ever on it
- "he's using an alt!"

Absolute delusion.

So why are you choosing to post now, of all times?

Did I trigger you?

May 12, 2021 5:44 PM

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progress3000 said:

- 7-year-old account with these post being the first posts ever on it
- "he's using an alt!"

Absolute delusion.

So why are you choosing to post now, of all times?

Did I trigger you?

It is most likely a sleeper account.

I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.

May 12, 2021 6:59 PM

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NoBean said:
OMG She asked their names? What a saint!

Bruh, at least some Albas tried to help the 86. She's not even trying that. I thought she would try to change the system and bring equality or sth, but lol.

You're in a good ride. You'll love the characters growth later on. It will apparent starting volume 2, but sadly season 1 most likely will only adapt volume 1.

This is the same with AOT, it needs more than 2 seasons to fleshed out the story.
Many complaints in this forum about the characters and story were all answered in the novel. But 1 season will not be enough. So we need at least 2 seasons to answer viewers dissatisfaction.

May 13, 2021 1:15 PM

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kljy said:

NoBean said:
OMG She asked their names? What a saint!

Bruh, at least some Albas tried to help the 86. She's not even trying that. I thought she would try to change the system and bring equality or sth, but lol.

You're in a good ride. You'll love the characters growth later on. It will apparent starting volume 2, but sadly season 1 most likely will only adapt volume 1.

It only has 11 episodes listed, but apparently second season is already confirmed/in the making. I just hope this ends the same as Volume 1, I need to see this scene animated, dang.

May 13, 2021 7:57 PM

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I feel like Milize's father is one of the commanders. They mentioned that the Legion needed a Brain to function and they show her father being killed in the chest in the beginning of the episode. So I find it very coincidental that they mention Commanders.

Milize getting embarrassed though was super adorable.

Crazy episode.

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May 13, 2021 10:29 PM

#187

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this is actually first time my judgement of first episode proved wrong
this anime is amazing
will definitely read the LN after anime ends

May 14, 2021 2:21 PM

#188

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The way the Para-Raid scene with all those voices was handled was superb. That was really terrifying. Hearing Kaie's voice at the end was really disturbing.

Well, another fantastic episode. It proved itself to be a great adaptation.

May 14, 2021 5:04 PM

#189

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_MadeInHeaven_ said:
this is actually first time my judgement of first episode proved wrong
this anime is amazing
will definitely read the LN after anime ends

Just curious, but what were your first impressions of this anime?

May 14, 2021 5:10 PM

#190

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Something worth noting with regards to Kaie's head in the previous and current episode.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EightySix/comments/ncdgjv/a_small_detail_most_of_the_people_missed/

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May 14, 2021 6:16 PM

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Well,I watched eps 3-5 in a row(already after eps 1 and 2 knew how good it was),but damn,this show is brutal to Lena,with all the info she's getting from Shin and the others,weighed against the utter propaganda she's known(and yes,I know its brutal to the 86 as well)but at least she's still trying to help them.
As for the adaption side of things,the studio seems to be doing it quite well.
And I love the juggernauts designs,can't wait to get a model of one when they come out(it'll look real nice next to my Escaflowne Guymelef ;)

May 15, 2021 12:07 AM

#192

_MadeInHeaven_

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justoneofthebros said:

_MadeInHeaven_ said:
this is actually first time my judgement of first episode proved wrong
this anime is amazing
will definitely read the LN after anime ends

Just curious, but what were your first impressions of this anime?

i thought this would be another Aldnoah zero
first ep is indeed bad, bc it gives us so much information and even character death to process without first introducing what's interesting about them and why i should care.

after ep 2-5 turns out i got code geass + AoT with zombie spider robots shenanigans

May 15, 2021 7:55 AM

#193

FMmatron

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This was such an interesting episode, but it also raised two major questions

A: How does Shin's hearing work?
B: What is the Empire doing?

I can't wait to get a look at the situation over there. I hope this cour is going to give us at least a glimpse.

As for the Shepherds, I wonder if Shin's brother/his brain became one of them. Well, I would be surprised if this wasn't the case based on how the exposition this episode was handled.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron

May 15, 2021 9:40 PM

#194

Paulotronator

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The show is still good overall, but now that they've got with this supernatural thing... Eh, not really my thing. But it won't affect my overall enjoyment of the plot as long as they don't push it too far.

Huh... Undertaker didn't mention his brother when he talked about the Black Sheeps, but he's still looking for him. Maybe there's a possibility that his brother is one of the Shepherds?
But if I've learned anything from anime is that the hidden enemies are always presented at the start of the plot, and given the limited amount of characters in the rest of the Republic, I'd say the fifth columnist Shepherd must be Lena's uncle (or maybe her friend, in a weird sort of events). After all, they're the only characters we know aside from Lena.

May 16, 2021 9:00 AM

#195

Raphtaliaxx

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This episode showed that the story is getting deeper. I think Shin's brother's brain became one of them (I hope not). Also don't forget that Shin is fighting with all these voices for a long time. Lena got crazy after hearing for like a minute. He deserves respect. Can't wait to know much more about this serie.

May 16, 2021 11:05 AM

#196

WolfWood37

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The Alba....jesus they are so fraking stupid it really is insane. They have to know about this right? The higher ups I mean?

May 17, 2021 5:30 AM

#197

Raizel

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Great episode Lena is ended strong for using the para raid after hearing the black Sheeps also we got some new information about the Legion which I thought
are they plan just to lose the war and do nothing in the meaning time.

May 22, 2021 10:09 AM

#198

Rickydory123

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There were lots of helpful explanations in this episode. But about Shin dying once, can't wait for more explanations about that. For now, I feel like the Legion did something with Shin's brain or someone I guess his brother saved Shin by stitching it back but I could be wrong since his brother was choking him in the flashback...

They said all the Handlers went crazy, the same thing is starting to happen with Lena, but good thing she's not giving up. It'll be a twist if the Legion collected undamaged brain of Rei or Kaie.

They want to make Annette marry a 5 year old....more than a wife she'll be a nanny XD

You're doing your shit out in the open how come nobody'll see you...

May 26, 2021 10:28 PM

#199

Shikkakku

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I can't stop watching.

May 31, 2021 6:08 AM

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UTMAN

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@jeehlr

I think you posted in the wrong discussion topic. This is eipisode 5's topic, not 8.

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