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Apr 16, 2021 8:51 PM
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linkhuesitos said:


2 different teams.

Spider part looked fine because it's made by a whole different studio. Studio exsa and Studio ENGI makes everything that involve Kumoko.

Shun side is supposedly made Milepeense 'cuz this episodes human part was outsourced. Milepeense only made Sue killing the king and part of the battle inside the office. Everything else was made by Chinese/Koreans.

2D humans made by Spider Team (exsa and ENGI)


2D humans made by Human team (Milipeense but mostly CHinese and Korean in this episode)

I KNEW THEY WERE F*ING OUTSOURCED!!! Damn the part B was disastrous as heck!
Just re-watched SHIROBAKO yesterday, this reminds me of the studio Taitanic mayhem episode.
I hope the entire part B was redone for the BD. And they should stop outsourcing to the same company again or they'd take all the heat from the fans (well, I guess a lack of MP was always a problem....).
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Apr 16, 2021 8:53 PM
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What a mess the human side has become
Apr 16, 2021 8:58 PM

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I'm interested in seeing how Sue is going to take this whole thing once she snaps out of it. The shock of it all is going to be intense




Apr 16, 2021 9:05 PM

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Damn, what a solid episode!
So Kumoko saved Sophia in the past and now she obeys the DL commands lmao, i really can't wait when Kumoko will come and destroy her oh boy.

I do wonder tho when we will snap back to Kumoko in present, do hope it happens before the season ends.

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Apr 16, 2021 9:45 PM
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Franz_Kuznetsov said:

Oka-san even lied about Kumoko being dead when Schlain, Fei and Katia asked about her.





Hmm? But have u seen Kumoko in the human timeline story? Maybe it's true?
Apr 16, 2021 9:52 PM

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billybub said:
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I’m still confused about the time-skips.


Any scene with Kumoko in spider form is 15 years in the past, any scenes with Katia, Schaine, Fei, or Oka are present day


Thank you. Are Kumoko and Ariel the same person?
Apr 16, 2021 10:11 PM

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Nunbo_Arbur said:
billybub said:


Any scene with Kumoko in spider form is 15 years in the past, any scenes with Katia, Schaine, Fei, or Oka are present day


Thank you. Are Kumoko and Ariel the same person?
Nunbo_Arbur said:
billybub said:


Any scene with Kumoko in spider form is 15 years in the past, any scenes with Katia, Schaine, Fei, or Oka are present day


Thank you. Are Kumoko and Ariel the same person?


Apr 16, 2021 10:12 PM
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Looks like it has been made clear how the Human parts and Spider parts are happening in different time periods (its the only logical conclusion after seeing cute baby Sophia and cute teenage Sophia after all). Looking forward to peoples' reactions when even more is revealed.

The Kumoko side was good, rather funny how the humans were just staring at Kumoko (a spider monster in their eyes) dancing and rolling around on the floor.

The stereotypical, isekai male protagonist side was poorly adapted in my opinion (as someone who had read the novels; not sure how anime-onlys see it but it was rather interesting to see slideshows in the midst of battles).

I sure hope next episode will not have more than half the episode covering the stereotypical, isekai male protag side, especially given the episode title.
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Whoof the fight scenes in this episode were J A N K Y.

Hard to feel emotionally invested in a show when it reminds me of the Househusband adaptation.
Apr 16, 2021 10:20 PM
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A somewhat decent episode (content wise) but still a big yikes.

I guess this episode is a sign that we'll start seeing Berserk 2016/17 levels of quality now, especially on the action side?
Apr 16, 2021 10:27 PM
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AntwanMantilla said:
A somewhat decent episode (content wise) but still a big yikes.

I guess this episode is a sign that we'll start seeing Berserk 2016/17 levels of quality now, especially on the action side?

Maybe or maybe not. This is the first episode that was blatantly outsourced, if the next episode has the same level of animation then yes, better start to worry.
Apr 16, 2021 10:53 PM
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Hmmm. I didn't really notice anything wrong with the episode. It was pretty interesting and the shit really hit the fan.

You are all complaining about the fight scenes from the humans being bad, but truthfully, the humans aren't all that strong. None of them really level up their skill any and followed what their teacher Oka told them to do a few episodes back. This is why they are sorely outclassed compared to someone like Sophia, Komoko (???), and the Demon Lord.

They should have done what Komoko did from the start and level up their skill, but did they? No.

So, yes, the humans are going to suck and give crapy fight scenes, because they are not all that tough.

Although, I do agree that the human side is a bit boring, and the jumping back and forth from present to future gets a bit confusing. I didn't really notice anything that a lot of you are whining about, but perhaps that is me. I do tend to enjoy female protagonist that are OP.

As for Sophia obeying the Demon Lord, that fraze is questionable at best. It is true that she obeys someone, but does anyone really know who the mastermind is? It wasn't really mentioned in this episode like it was supposed to be, but this was the original topic at the end.

"As Shun and his party escape, however, Sophia converses with one of her associates, revealing they let them escape. The associate also warned Sophia that she will be reporting to their "Master" that she attacked Ms. Oka and Shun, which was not a part of the plan."

The associate as we have seen in the anime is the Demon Lord, but that was not their "Master." So, who is the one pulling the strings? It definitely doesn't sound like the Demon Lord.

Oh, and before you start telling me not to reveal LN information, this information didn't come from the LN directly. It came from their profile page and is directly related to this episode.
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Apr 16, 2021 11:08 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks that Okas' butt protection thing looks like giant ass diapers from time to time? Specifically last episode (13) we could see her from behind walking. Damn.
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Apr 17, 2021 12:08 AM

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Kumo part was great, but generic isekai part is just getting worse, with that huge quqality dive. Wtf were those slideshows instead of animation?
Franz_Kuznetsov said:

Oka-san even lied about Kumoko being dead when Schlain, Fei and Katia asked about her.

Big spoiler but:
Apr 17, 2021 12:09 AM
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martin12165 said:
Franz_Kuznetsov said:

Oka-san even lied about Kumoko being dead when Schlain, Fei and Katia asked about her.





Hmm? But have u seen Kumoko in the human timeline story? Maybe it's true?

It's both true and untrue at the same time 🙃
Apr 17, 2021 1:07 AM

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slavemaster_1991 said:
Kumo part was great, but generic isekai part is just getting worse, with that huge quqality dive. Wtf were those slideshows instead of animation?
Franz_Kuznetsov said:

Oka-san even lied about Kumoko being dead when Schlain, Fei and Katia asked about her.

Big spoiler but:


I thought it was because she got reincarnated as a spider and she wasn't able to locate her.
Apr 17, 2021 1:18 AM
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The animation ruin this episode, i hope they will fix it in the next episode!
Apr 17, 2021 2:03 AM

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I love how adorable Kumoko can be. She's too cute. Hugo is back and still a bastard. Schlain got overthrown by Hugo and was declared a Rebel. An okkay episode. Btw, I think, that little baby that Kumoko saved is the same vampire girl.
Apr 17, 2021 2:07 AM

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Nunbo_Arbur said:

I thought it was because she got reincarnated as a spider and she wasn't able to locate her.

Well, again a big spoiler
Apr 17, 2021 3:10 AM
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linkhuesitos said:


2 different teams.

Spider part looked fine because it's made by a whole different studio. Studio exsa and Studio ENGI makes everything that involve Kumoko.

Shun side is supposedly made Milepeense 'cuz this episodes human part was outsourced. Milepeense only made Sue killing the king and part of the battle inside the office. Everything else was made by Chinese/Koreans.

2D humans made by Spider Team (exsa and ENGI)


2D humans made by Human team (Milipeense but mostly CHinese and Korean in this episode)

man why would they call chinese and korean to do this? lol japanese studios doing trash animation is still better than this crap. Are chinese and korean studios cheaper or something?
Apr 17, 2021 3:50 AM

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slavemaster_1991 said:
Nunbo_Arbur said:

I thought it was because she got reincarnated as a spider and she wasn't able to locate her.

Well, again a big spoiler


Apr 17, 2021 4:01 AM

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Nunbo_Arbur said:


This info is given waaay after in web novel, but here how it goes:

Apr 17, 2021 4:04 AM

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Man, fantastic fucking episode for the plot, but I don't fucking know what happened with the storyboarding and animation when we reached the Shun side this episode, I mean I kind of understood the sequences but it flowed like shit lmao.

Crappy visuals in the second half aside, shit's really going down now. Damn, Kumoko actually ate those humans that destroyed her home in the dungeon. But, hey bandits are fair game lmao. Prince Kumoko is cursed, I don't ever wanna see Kumoko's head in a human body ever again lmao, that's like reverse Arachne. Small Sophia looked really cute though, but she grew up to be a bombshell.

Goddamn, Sue just doughnuted the king, well she was brainwashed and all that but still, damn. Well after what the elfs were plotting at the beginning for Sophia's family, not surprising for her to behead Potimas like that. Man, plot is really great, but I hope the quality next episode goes back to normal. Looking forward to the next episode.
Apr 17, 2021 4:31 AM
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Nunbo_Arbur said:
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Well, again a big spoiler



As you reply to Nunbo's replies, I assume you are fine with being spoiled. That's why I will spoil even more in an attempt to answer your question. Do not continue if you do not want to get spoiled further.
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Apr 17, 2021 5:06 AM
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I loved the plot, but damn, this was ugly as fuck.
Apr 17, 2021 5:14 AM

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Apparently, this episode was outsourced which explains the drop in animation.

Animation aside, things are really starting to get interesting. And we all know Potimas is not dead. He doesn't seem like the type of guy to go out that easy.
Apr 17, 2021 5:22 AM
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As others have rightly pointed out, (half) this episode was outsourced. It should also be noted that the PV basically dropped 12 hours before the air time, when they usually come out a few days before.

My guess is that shit happened, they ran out of time, and had to cut their losses. And personally, I'm fine with trading half a badly animated episode so that the rest can be decent (hopefully).

There's also a very small chance this was done deliberately, as even LN readers will tell you, EVERYONE hates Shun.
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Agreed, the last 5minutes were horrible animation wise.
Apr 17, 2021 6:03 AM

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martin12165 said:
Franz_Kuznetsov said:

Oka-san even lied about Kumoko being dead when Schlain, Fei and Katia asked about her.





Hmm? But have u seen Kumoko in the human timeline story? Maybe it's true?


If I answer to your question it would be a spoiler... XD sorry. ;P
Apr 17, 2021 6:10 AM

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slavemaster_1991 said:

Big spoiler but:


Ah ok! now I understand more of the situation, thanks! ;)
Apr 17, 2021 7:21 AM

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Wish it could have come off as any kind of suprise that that one guy was a traitor. Not like he was obviously a bad guy from the literal first words that came from his mouth. Poor writing on his character
Apr 17, 2021 7:22 AM

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MegamiRem said:
Schlain's side of the story became a complete mess in just one episode. Guess Schlain's party will join Kumoko now. Also it's confirmed now that the Demon Lord is also a reincarnate.
that was already obvious from an earlier episode, pay attention
Apr 17, 2021 7:42 AM

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Oh dear, the production completely fell apart in the last 5 minutes. Looks like they ran out of time. This kind of stuff always makes me feel bad for everyone involved in the production, hope they can get it together next episode.

It's a shame it happened when the human plot finally started moving forward. I don't mind the human part of this show at all, as long as they get rid of Hugo soon, what a dreadful character, there's nothing interesting about him
Apr 17, 2021 8:21 AM
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ManWild said:
I actually liked this episode quite a bit. I thought the fights were pretty good and overall, the second cour has potential to be better than the first one for me

As a LN reader i can say that yes, the second cour content will be more interesting for both Kumo and the human side, specially the human side.

Lets just hope the dont repeat the animation mess of this episode though. No matter how good the content a horrible animation can ruin it.
Apr 17, 2021 9:56 AM
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Penteano said:
man why would they call chinese and korean to do this? lol japanese studios doing trash animation is still better than this crap. Are chinese and korean studios cheaper or something?

What I love is that is super easy to notice in which scenes Milipeense actually worked and which ones not just looking at the drawing.

They definetely worked on the King murder scene and some Hugo's scenes, when he's blown away by the wind his falling was fully animated and in the whole this is how we did this scene all the characters were on-model so that was Milipeense


But then in the woods you have shit like characters missing their mouth or having 2 right arms, this are obviously the outsourced scenes.

Apr 17, 2021 10:30 AM
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Looks like the story just took a very dark turn...

And I have been saying this from the beginning , but what the fuck are the camera angles ? . Putting aside the horrendous animation in this ep , the storyboards are just terrible . If you are gonna use limited animation , at least make it comprehensible for the viewers .

And yeah they need to do like a MHA and put the names of the characters and the minimum details about them , when they are on screen . There is just way too many things to remember , and the horrible visuals are not helping things......

At least the scenes by engi looks good . I will say this again , engi is gonna be big studio in the future


Most people forget that this anime is made by 3 studios.
- Studio exsa makes all the 3D for Kumoko
- Studio ENGI makes the 2D scenes for Kumoko
- Studio Millipeense makes the 2D scenes for the students side.

This episode is the only one were most Millipeense's animation directors are Chinese or Koreans. This probably means that Millipeense ran out of time and ended outsourcing the last third of the episode...and it fucking shows.
Sue killing her father and Hugo being an asshole were decently animated, everything went to shit when Oka showed up which is most likely when the outsourced part started.
Apr 17, 2021 11:15 AM

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That was trash tier animation xD.
this show could have been a such a decent one if had better production, nonetheless
Kumo saved the day.
Apr 17, 2021 11:23 AM
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That was the worse animated action I think I've ever seen. It was worse than Meliodas vs. Escanor. Wtf happened?
Apr 17, 2021 11:24 AM
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chaosnetwork said:
That was the worse animated action I think I've ever seen. It was worse than Meliodas vs. Escanor. Wtf happened?

Read 2 comments above
Apr 17, 2021 11:47 AM

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Millepensee showing again how good they at completely fucking over enjoyment of a good anime with their animation. Can only clap for that, holy shit.
Apr 17, 2021 12:20 PM

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so the spider that saved the baby is the demon lord?



Wanna a spoiler? If yes, click bellow:



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Millepensee showing again how good they at completely fucking over enjoyment of a good anime with their animation. Can only clap for that, holy shit.


Milipensee actually outsourced the later half (from Oka running till the end) to some minor korean studio. Who's worse than them.

Let's hope it does not happen again, not only the animation was very bad, with some still, frozen, frames, but the camera angles and zoom gave me a headache.

Or they outsource next time to some actually competent studio.

Hope Blu-Rays remade this last 6 minutes episode. Sophia deserved better.
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That was quite a drop in quality this episode, what a shame. The story is just starting to get interesting too.
Apr 17, 2021 4:16 PM

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Masterrazor said:
You are all complaining about the fight scenes from the humans being bad, but truthfully, the humans aren't all that strong. None of them really level up their skill any and followed what their teacher Oka told them to do a few episodes back. This is why they are sorely outclassed compared to someone like Sophia, Komoko (???), and the Demon Lord.


If you think people are complaining about the fight scenes because the humans are weak then you haven't read anyone's criticism and just made assumptions. It's not the content of the fights, it's the animation and framing of the fight scenes. It looks like absolute trash and is janky af. There's a lot of odd cuts and the sound design was terrible (sometimes there wasn't a sound when there should have been one or the sound wasn't as impactful as it should have been).
Apr 17, 2021 4:29 PM

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I've had issue with the way this anime is framed in previous episodes but this episode has one of the biggest WTFs to me.

This scene they look close to eachother when it's zoomed in but then when it zooms out you can clearly see Sophia way in the back and Oka is much closer to out POV.



And then there's the fight scene shortly after this where in the span of literally 2 seconds Oka jumps away from Sophia followed by a zoom in on Sophia's face and then an abrupt cut to Oka being strangled by Sophia.

Apr 17, 2021 4:47 PM

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just wtf was that?? very painful to watch especially the fight

mann i hope they remake this episode, it deserves better imo


Apr 17, 2021 4:59 PM

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jesus I almost had a brain aneurysm those camera angles were heavily fucked up
Apr 17, 2021 5:42 PM

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Well, we didn't have much of Kumoko this time, really happy about it.

Like seriously why is Kumoko's side so boring all of a sudden, since the lava enemies and maybe the monkeys nothing else has been entertaining from her side, probably that's around when she got the 3 shits in her head.

Shun's struggles seem to be more interesting, and every other reincarnated person too.
Apr 17, 2021 8:35 PM

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Man, I feel bad for people who haven’t read any source material cause there were so many parts that you’d have no idea what was going on if you didn’t have background knowledge. I love this series, but I’m afraid this adaptation might be too low quality for people to give the source material a chance.
Apr 17, 2021 10:33 PM
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I think I will go and read the LN later when I have time.
The animation can be shit but they even hide it behind super closed up camera to reduce the amount of works is NG.
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