DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| I didn't know I have to make well contructed walls of texts to express how dissatisfied I am every single week for the same reasons just so to cater to your fangirling of R07. Whether I make up excuses for all the bullshit that is happening or not, doesn't change that most people have the same issues with Gou. Some are more optimistic about the conclusion, others arent. Sincerely fuck off. |
chitchawa said: ssjokg said: Forgot that we need a good explanation for Lambda doing this if she is involved. "i was bored" isnt gonna cut it. isn't this the canonical reason though? the implication of her involvement here only worked in umineko because putting them on a higher plane allowed them to trivialize the events from higurashi. they cant exactly tie in any potentially compelling reasons either because higurashi never dived into how boredom kills witches or logic errors. the only hint at these concepts existing at all is rika/bern's explanation for 'dying' in mina, which was referred to as them giving up rather than being bored. Then R07 can make any kind of story, making any previous ending irrelevant, just because some witch was bored. It works for og Higurashi because Rika had to face a human mastermind that wasn't influenced by a higher being. The biggest help Takano ever got from Lambda was the coin when she was young. Now Satoko got looper powers, probably, knows about Rika's future, and has even more background help from Lambda or whoever it is. Yes it makes sense in canon. But what is the point? |
| Hi MAL forum lurker! You quite like Gou but you don't post cause you don't feel like arguing why you like it so far? I'm the validation you need! Watch me: I enjoy GOU so far (well maybe except for the over the top gore episodes 15 & 16), but story wise, I'm hooked! Also yes! You didn't play the audio novel? It's fine, me neither! Let's enjoy watching the anime together ✿☆✿☆✿☆ |
Vapsiainen said: What are you saying? Satoko was not wearing a backpack.RebelPanda said: I didn't even think of that LMAO. I think they wanted it to end on a cliff hanger and hoped we wouldn't notice. What are you guys saying? Satoko has a bag on her back.  |
 |
| "OMG, Satoko is the culprit!", said absolutely nobody. I mean, obviously there is something deeper going on and Satoko is definitely a pawn but we're having some fun now. I was actually expecting this to the be the happy, happy, way too happy episode all the way through and shit to hit the fan next week but this is even better. Next arc: Satokowashi-hen, huh? 10/10 for that title. |
Ah well I feel really stupid right now  all of Gou has been basically subvert expectation .show based off knowing things from season 1 and 2 Yet I was so focused on thinking they'd reveal that horned girl from the OP as the culprit who just doing things from the shadow. Should of suspected Satoko the moment she got Keiichi killed by her uncle but nah I was so blinded by the absolute thought that the group would never hurt each other unless stricken by the virus because their strong friendship. Sure it could be mind control but I still should of suspected something since Satoko the only character who I kind of dislike from season 1 and 2 so this would just help justify the dislike  |
 |
How could i have missed that jesus -.- But the gun could be hid under her skirt still. But i see why people think that it's an asspull. |
Vapsiainen said: an asspull. Quite literally. |
Vapsiainen said: Oh so that wasn't bait, you're just blind. If I was being generous I'd say she had the pistol strapped to her leg.How could i have missed that jesus -.- But the gun could be hid under her skirt still. But i see why people think that it's an asspull. |
|
| Well I am shocked by the ending of this Episode. I knew that Satoko had something to do with the time loop's but NEVER in a million years would i have guessed she would play this big of a role. I think that some God is controlling Satoko. Hell by this point im even thinking that Hanyuu has something to do with Rika's time loop's. |
| My worst fear came true |
 |
| <Clap, clap, clap> So where should I start? I now have 2 new things I hate the most about this rendition. First of all, the disservice it's doing for the OG while peeing in it's cereals. And how god damn obvious everything was. Is this really one of the R07's famous mysteries? Figured out the culprit ep 4, and all the rest a bit later. This is just sad. This is the most fitting and sad point to say this in a loong time.. "This level of reasoning is possible for Hulio. What do you think, everyone?... It's a effin disgrace!" Forgot what else I had to say while writing this, oh well.. The M4 guys made me laugh tho. EDITOh yeah. The next chapter being Satokowashi-hen? Villagedestroying arc? More like, Satoko wa shi-hen - Satoko will die. Oh lord, that's Brilliant! xD random_weirdo said: If by Mion's and Satoko's death you mean Watadamashi, I'm pretty sure it's just Satoko's doing.Killing Mion and Satoko is something I could see the Yamainu doing to cover up HS Overall, this episode was much better than the previous two, but not better than 14, which is still my favourite Gou episode. Edit: is there a possibility that Irie is complicit with Satoko? I think the suitcase with the H173 syringes is implicating that Satoko was injecting people to go insta-L5, but I don't think it's possible for her to get that suitcase on her own... I would doubly hate them for ruining Irie :( Completely agree with the favorite episode aswell. There's no contest. I don't think Irie has anything to do with this. To me it feels like, Satoko is a looper like Rika, but a lot more active one. She, with her otherwordly support, likely can easily gain access to a lot of stuff. I don't think he ment a backpack like that. Satoko is clearly using the classical JRPG Magic Pocket. She can pull her whole inventory from her butt. |
         Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
| Well it's definitely a sequel now so all the people saying to watch the original first were right. They passed the show off as being a remake with only light sequel elements but a first time viewer is going to be lost for much of this episode. That aside, good episode. Rika is getting savvy to the fact she lives in a horror show and is not going to get a happy ending that easily. Satoko really doesn't Rika to leave Hinamizawa. |
| Shoot first, think never. |
| Holy shit so all those crazy fan theories turned out to be true that Satoko is the one rolling the dice and fucking with Rika. But finally something interesting happened.... |
| So wtf is up with the timeline? In Watadamashi Takano is still interested in entering the shed and playing mindgames with Shion and Keichi, then 5 minutes later she has a change of heart and betrays the Yamainu and half of the factions in Tokyo? Her demeanor never even implied she had second thoughts. Just why? Also, can someone who is speaking japanese tell me if Satoko was using male pronouns when talking about Oyashiro-sama? I wonder if she actually referred to a male deity or subs just go with the initial assumption that Oyashiro-sama is male. |
ssjokgJan 28, 2021 5:12 PM
ssjokg said: So wtf is up with the timeline? Also, can someone who is speaking japanese tell me if Satoko was using male pronouns when talking about Oyashiro-sama? I wonder if she actually referred to a male deity or subs just go with the initial assumption that Oyashiro-sama is male. In the scene where Rika and Satoko are overlooking the town? They never use a gendered pronoun. |
Gar_Logan said: ssjokg said: So wtf is up with the timeline? Also, can someone who is speaking japanese tell me if Satoko was using male pronouns when talking about Oyashiro-sama? I wonder if she actually referred to a male deity or subs just go with the initial assumption that Oyashiro-sama is male. In the scene where Rika and Satoko are overlooking the town? They never use a gendered pronoun. I guess should have asked that in ep16. But I guess it is the same there was well. Thanks, I was wondering if they removed the ambiguity of Oyashiro-sama since Satoko met "him". |
| so Teppei literally literally DID NOTHING WRONG |
 APOLOGIZE. They were right all along. They're the second hokages of Higurashi. |
 |
| These memes are the only thing that are keeping Gou alive at this point, they're fucking hilarious. Also this one was the first thing that came to my mind when she pulled her gun.  Source: https://twitter.com/NightkrisArt/status/1307614848163946496/photo/1 ArcueidBestGirl said: Ikr, it just feels too stupidly obvious to be true. I remember ppl came up with Satoko looping theory around Watadamashi, but even in episode 4 she was already sus. There was no way of guessing back then, but I remember that even me with my braincells thought at first that one of them killed the other and herself.Call me an idiot, but unless we have proof that Satoko is the mastermind behind all of these incidents, you can't claim that she is the culprit. Hulio said: Is that the literally translation? It sounds like a speedrun name XD.EDITOh yeah. The next chapter being Satokowashi-hen? Villagedestroying arc? More like, Satoko wa shi-hen - Satoko will die. That's too bad. I wildly thought that Rika would end up trying to fake her death with the help of Takano and cause GHD only for the sake of leaving the goddamn village. You know... gotta keep making ridiculous theories that could've been better than Gou. Hulio said: Satoko is the 2nd character in Higurashi to have a bag of holding. The first being Mion with her club games.I don't think he ment a backpack like that. Satoko is clearly using the classical JRPG Magic Pocket. She can pull her whole inventory from her butt. |
| I didn't expected that Takano will ask forgiveness. Never have I thought of that. Satoko be like Pumped up kicks at the end though. |
 |
I think Hanyuu helps Satoko Maybe she possessed Satoko (red eyes) and try to convince Rika to stay in Hinamizawa? That part when Satoko said "Please, don't ever leave us, Rika" Maybe it was all Hanyuu, because Satoko can leave Hinamizawa with Rika, but Hanyuu can't leave Hinamizawa. |
rafaelfserafim said: Literary translation? probably not. But I don't believe in coincidences, and I know that R07 likes to play with words.Hulio said: Is that the literally translation? It sounds like a speedrun name XD.EDITOh yeah. The next chapter being Satokowashi-hen? Villagedestroying arc? More like, Satoko wa shi-hen - Satoko will die. That's too bad. I wildly thought that Rika would end up trying to fake her death with the help of Takano and cause GHD only for the sake of leaving the goddamn village. You know... gotta keep making ridiculous theories that could've been better than Gou. One example being shown on this episode, the drug H173 which basically says H-I-Na-Mi. Then again, the chapter name could technically be a red herring, I just don't know how stupid he takes his viewers as at this point. This GOU has basically felt to me like a Higurashi for kids. |
Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
| Keichi has to save everyone again. |
ssjokgJan 28, 2021 7:05 PM
Hulio said: Yes, he likes to play with words, but I can't read japanese. That's why I thought you were serious that "Satoko wa shi-hen" meant something like "Satoko must die".rafaelfserafim said: Literary translation? probably not. But I don't believe in coincidences, and I know that R07 likes to play with words.Is that the literally translation? It sounds like a speedrun name XD. That's too bad. I wildly thought that Rika would end up trying to fake her death with the help of Takano and cause GHD only for the sake of leaving the goddamn village. You know... gotta keep making ridiculous theories that could've been better than Gou. One example being shown on this episode, the drug H173 which basically says H-I-Na-Mi. Then again, the chapter name could technically be a red herring, I just don't know how stupid he takes his viewers as at this point. This GOU has basically felt to me like a Higurashi for kids. I got it that the village destroying thing is from "sato kowashi". Ofc I can't read naturally, so I tried to translate. My reaction was like "did he really play with her name like that?". I also think it's a red herring, I mean it's too convenient. I don't think he actually believed people would fall for it, it sounded more like a way of satirize his own work. But if he did, well, that was stupid. A lot of things that looked as a red herring were exactly what happened, so it felt really dumbed down. I don't think you can call a mystery that makes you want to discard something for being too obvious a good mystery. After reading Matsuribayashi, the thing someone mentioned here about Hanyuu ended up being interesting:  Don't ask me where the "happy" fits in here. |
| Why did I wait this long for not even a decent episode as an answer arc(!) ending? Everything feels so half baked, I don't believe it's actually happening. Takano got a "revelation" that she must stop everything at all cost, exactly on the night of the watanagashi festival and probably just after they went to the storehouse. Why? What happened? Did Satoko talk to her? Was that why Satoko went "missing" on Watadamashi? Or was it some higher being instead? What information did she get that made her abandon everything and just use the most basic excuse: "You wouldn't understand."? Did she know of the loop? Was someone threatening her to leave? Anything I came up with sounded incredibly stupid as hell no matter what, so I'm just going to wait for the reveal for now. That bullshit aside, Satoko is the biggest problem here. Satoko has been suspicious ever since Watadamashi, it's not news. So why the lukewarm ending and cliffhanger? What even happened there? She shot Rika, and that's it? They both went into one last loop for the final battle? Why do I feel like R07 wanted to replicate Minagoroshi ending here, but only like the 1/10 part of it? The OG at least felt impactful and made me both curious and excited for the last arc. But this? I got annoyed and only wanted to continue so I could understand wtf even happened here. Both the animation and directing are bad as usual, so at least that's consistent. I don't know how they're gonna explain everything, but we need an actual reason with common sense as to why all of this happened in the first place. And if this going to have any kind of involvement to Umineko, I'm not sure what to feel anymore. Also, Satokowashi? Oh, Japan and your love for puns. Let's just finish this and never went back. If only we get an actual remake instead of whatever this supposed to be. The flashbacks of the OG arcs look great and I would definitely love to see a more faithful and better adaption for Higurashi. What a shame. |
| I already wasn’t fond of the (original?) Higurashi but this season might be even worse in my opinion |
 |
| oohh boy, waiting to watch it all was the right decision. From 9-17 all I can say is that on episode 13 I was pretty certain on what's going on but Either way, Rika has every right to want to get away from that place, not even Hanyuu could jugde her for wishing that. Now that she has a "weapon" to kill loopers I wonder which "death" will be granted to them... if it's total death, cutting them off the loop and going back to 5 years in the future before the loop restarted or if it's something that will ascend the looper to a higher position, given Hanyuu status as a supernatural being... Well, now I'll be back after the last episode it's been pretty entretaining if nothing else |
Primo_ItokoJan 28, 2021 10:53 PM
| Must say... i was not expecting that. |
| RamaTheStrandedOtaku Nier and MGS fan. |
Still hope he died a death fitting for a scumbag such as himself, I'd hate to get a Higurashi where he's a legit victim instead of someone who deserved it. |
  |
| THIS EPISODE WAS SO F'ING GOOD WTF. The satoko theory paying off and revealing everything... holy smokes. This completely explains when Mion/Shion said that stuff in arc 2, like "she brought her minions..." when looking at the camera to Satoko. I'm gonna guess Satoko is controlling a faction of the dog soldiers? Koyer said: That's very kind of you! For whatever reason, MAL is pretty critical of Gou compared to the higu subreddit. Hi MAL forum lurker! You quite like Gou but you don't post cause you don't feel like arguing why you like it so far? I'm the validation you need! Watch me: I enjoy GOU so far (well maybe except for the over the top gore episodes 15 & 16), but story wise, I'm hooked! Also yes! You didn't play the audio novel? It's fine, me neither! Let's enjoy watching the anime together ✿☆✿☆✿☆ |
SparkleDuckJan 29, 2021 12:10 AM
 |
Lyree said: ALSO. telling the newcomers it's safe to start with gou was a DICK MOVE from the author. it was funny after the first ep when we were all trolled and surprised because we were convinved it was a remake, BUT after that, there REALLY has been some serious statement for the newcomers to GO BACK to OG I blame mostly the guys that watched the OG and were screaming that newcomers should NOT watch the OG, because Ryu told you so! At least we see who the real goats were. Their posts in the episode 2 discussion ages like milk. |
random_weirdo said: Correct me if I'm wrong. But when Irie developed the vaccine for Satoko, C-120 I think, it had a collateral effect that it would trigger terminal symptoms if it was injected on a healthy person. Did he ever get any progress on that? I guess not, considering what happened to Rika in Meakashi. At first I thought it triggered an antigen/antibody reaction on Rika's body, but then it was revealed that it would cause that on any healthy person. Well, Satoko had to get that gun and that syringe, and even if she does go to the clinic every week, I don't think that shit is very easy to steal. So Satoko didn't have to steal the h173, she already had deadly shots with her, she was just never told that. Now getting a gun is another story. Much easier than the h173 though. |
rafaelfserafim said: Now getting a gun is another story. This is not the US 😁 |
| Well well, Satoko became the dice-roller of Rika's timeloops, which prove the numerous fan theories before this right. If Rika's meeting with Takano and Tomitake wasn't a subtle hint already, it's unreliable to base off speculation for what happened this episode, especially the events that lead to Satoko being a tool used for foreshadowing future events (that said no one ever). The moment when Satoko confronted Rika at the pavilion, to celebrating her birthday out of all that trauma with Teppei, this timeline deviates from Onidamashi-hen, right into Satokowashi-hen (like geddit? Satoko / wa-shi) Ryukishi07 is such a troll to have baited all of us, old or new viewers into this "sequel" of sorts, nothing is ever conclusive in the world of Higurashi. |
 |
| I really thought that Satoko is a red herring, but surprise, surprise, the hints were not a trap after all. |
More topics from this board
» Need some recommendationsUpToNoGood - Feb 11 |
5 |
by me-at-balls
»»
Feb 12, 8:55 PM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 6 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Stark700 - Nov 5, 2020 |
178 |
by Kairu14
»»
Dec 21, 2024 1:02 PM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 23 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Danpmss - Mar 11, 2021 |
315 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 2024 5:43 AM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 20 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Syureria - Feb 18, 2021 |
337 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 2024 4:34 AM |
|
Poll: » Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou Episode 19 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Feb 11, 2021 |
310 |
by Tennouji
»»
Oct 11, 2024 4:04 AM |