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LittleStar said: But he had no choice, he was a child and he was manipulated. can you really blame him ?StardustReverie said: Reiner is a little bitch and his life was one billion times easier than eren's. What the fuck is he bitching and all suicidial about? Shit character. Agree! I used to like him, he was Reiner "protect to chibi ones" Braun, but when I find out he traitor and with these parts, I can't like him... now he irritates me even more. |
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| The depression meme has finally been animated holy shit, that means next week... I can’t wait. MAPPA already doing a lot better than WIT Imo. chiearlymorning said: keragamming said: Just to let you know manga readers hated these chapters, in the manga what worse is that they were following it monthly, while for you the pacing is faster and you only have to wait a week for new episodes, so you probably would even hate it more if you were following this arc monthly. The good thing here is we haven't even touch on the great parts yet, but next episode is when things will start to set into motion. yeah, speak for yourself Mf capping so bad. These chapters were fire to read. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
Koito91Jan 2, 2021 9:36 AM
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| I have to say some scenes felt rushed in this episode, I didn't get this feeling last ep. |
ByonKun said: Really? It felt like they could spend less time and still get the same point/info across They skip so much stuff, but they took out the unnecessary things, sure some of it is good content but people forget that manga and anime is too different thing and not because it was done well in the manga mean it would also be done well if they were to adapt the entire back story. chiearlymorning said: keragamming said: Just to let you know manga readers hated these chapters, in the manga what worse is that they were following it monthly, while for you the pacing is faster and you only have to wait a week for new episodes, so you probably would even hate it more if you were following this arc monthly. The good thing here is we haven't even touch on the great parts yet, but next episode is when things will start to set into motion. yeah, speak for yourself Not me, but I remember following these chapters on a monthly basis and people hated it, "can we see our main cast now?" maybe when you read it all the chapters were release so it wasn't as bad, but following it monthly from the beginning was a different thing and then having to be waiting for an entire month for a new chapter was not easy. @Marinate1016 Do not misunderstand me I'm speaking of what I saw on snk reddit and other places, following this arc monthly in its early stages chapter 91 and having to wait a month really frustrated a lot of readers, I think you can atleast understand, being thrown into a different place with new characters and not seeing your main cast for months, its understandable why some persons were annoyed at first. but then they realize that the pay off was worth it and even doing a re read many realize it wasn't bad. |
keragammingDec 20, 2020 1:31 PM
keragamming said: Just to let you know manga readers hated these chapters, in the manga what worse is that they were following it monthly, while for you the pacing is faster and you only have to wait a week for new episodes, so you probably would even hate it more if you were following this arc monthly. The good thing here is we haven't even touch on the great parts yet, but next episode is when things will start to set into motion. I'm a manga reader myself. Been reading it for quite some time now so even then, I didn't find the pacing to be that drastic at least from the gist of it. |
| An overall good episode. To be honest, I liked the last episode better than this one. I understand the fast pacing is more preferable here than in the later, more important parts of the arc but this storytelling didn't sit that well for me. I feel like it would've been more impactful if we spent a little longer with each scene. The pace at which events were happening made Reiner's backstory with his mother seem like it was a last-minute thought that was added by the author to justify the actions of a character, and this is something AoT wouldn't do at all. At least not for a character as big as Reiner. I don't know how that unfolds in the manga. Maybe it's the same I don't know. The same goes for the whole invasion sequence. Unfortunately, all of it felt somewhat meaningless because we gained nothing new and it didn't really leave much of an impact on me personally. This is the part where the story should've made me sit with the trio for an extended period of time and made me feel for them even more. Things could've been much more emotional than they were. This shows that you can't really have this payoff when the scenes are that much shorter and are constantly alternating. Then again, sacrifices were made hopefully for the greater good of the arc. The last episode made me sympathize with Reiner more than this one did. For the production and animation, some scenes were very well done while others felt somewhat iffy. I could see a lot of inconsistency, especially in Reiner's design, but nothing too distracting. That's just me nitpicking. I really liked the warrior training scenes at the beginning, and the Eren and Falco scene at the end. Those were definitely the highlight of the episode as they were really well done. The colors, Eren's words, and the transitions, it was all so beautiful I really enjoyed it. |
| OK episode, although it felt like barely anything new was explained in the flashbacks. kaiki_fan_boy said: LittleStar said: But he had no choice, he was a child and he was manipulated. can you really blame him ?Agree! I used to like him, he was Reiner "protect to chibi ones" Braun, but when I find out he traitor and with these parts, I can't like him... now he irritates me even more. Yes. Yes, we can. Specially since he held the same beliefs for a long time and, until proven otherwise, he still does. |
chiearlymorning said: keragamming said: Just to let you know manga readers hated these chapters, in the manga what worse is that they were following it monthly, while for you the pacing is faster and you only have to wait a week for new episodes, so you probably would even hate it more if you were following this arc monthly. The good thing here is we haven't even touch on the great parts yet, but next episode is when things will start to set into motion. yeah, speak for yourself Mf capping so bad. These chapters were fire to read. |
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| I was so focused on Eren's new look, that I wasn't focusing on what he was saying. I made a "pause", but it didn't help... after re-watching that fragment several times finally did it! This conversation, give me so many feels... ❤ I can't... 😭 |
| Damn, it's pretty insane to get the full background about events that happened so long ago, episode 1 in fact. Can't help but feel bad for the state of the Eldians in Marley. Reiner, Annie and Bertholdt. :( All the flashback scenes were great. So that really was Eren at the end? Yuki Kaji kind of gives it away but I wouldn't have recognized him otherwise. |
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keragamming said: @Lumiax You see? Anime only are already complaining about the slow pacing even though they are speeding through a lot of content, in anime form things have to be sped up a bit for content wise. I do understand where you are coming from but a adaptation should be its own thing not a copy paste from the manga. Yeah I know. AOT has never been a exact copy of the manga. And the infoformation in this episode is still enough to understand Reiner. I personally would've liked it if it would be a bit more fleshed out considering that Reiner is my 2nd favourite character of this story and the protagonist of this arc. But I guess with only 16 episodes its not possible. But as long as the rest is fleshed out I wont complain. |
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| I liked to see the storyline of how Reiner, Annie and Bertholt managed to get within the walls. Now it also makes sense why Ymir turned back into a human, she actually ate the Jaw Titan and got it's powers. I wonder why this never occured to me. Or I might have forgotten. Hello there Eren! Now I want to know how you even got into that city, but that's for another time. This shit has me hyped. Can't wait to see the confrontation. |
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YMN_KAT said: An overall good episode. To be honest, I liked the last episode better than this one. I understand the fast pacing is more preferable here than in the later, more important parts of the arc but this storytelling didn't sit that well for me. I feel like it would've been more impactful if we spent a little longer with each scene. The pace at which events were happening made Reiner's backstory with his mother seem like it was a last-minute thought that was added by the author to justify the actions of a character, and this is something AoT wouldn't do at all. At least not for a character as big as Reiner. I don't know how that unfolds in the manga. Maybe it's the same I don't know. The same goes for the whole invasion sequence. Unfortunately, all of it felt somewhat meaningless because we gained nothing new and it didn't really leave much of an impact on me personally. This is the part where the story should've made me sit with the trio for an extended period of time and made me feel for them even more. Things could've been much more emotional than they were. This shows that you can't really have this payoff when the scenes are that much shorter and are constantly alternating. Then again, sacrifices were made hopefully for the greater good of the arc. The last episode made me sympathize with Reiner more than this one did. For the production and animation, some scenes were very well done while others felt somewhat iffy. I could see a lot of inconsistency, especially in Reiner's design, but nothing too distracting. That's just me nitpicking. I really liked the warrior training scenes at the beginning, and the Eren and Falco scene at the end. Those were definitely the highlight of the episode as they were really well done. The colors, Eren's words, and the transitions, it was all so beautiful I really enjoyed it. Its more fleshed out in the manga and it has more impact imo. |
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AuRomul said: Hmm yeah I am probably biased since I've read the manga. But I still find it hard to hate him since his environnement lead him to that, yes he could have done better, way better, but his whole family and everyone around him thinks like that. He wanted to save the world, to make his mom proud and to live with his father. I personnaly don't think I would do better. Him betraying marh also equals to his death and to the death of his whole family, what could he do ?OK episode, although it felt like barely anything new was explained in the flashbacks. kaiki_fan_boy said: But he had no choice, he was a child and he was manipulated. can you really blame him ? Yes. Yes, we can. Specially since he held the same beliefs for a long time and, until proven otherwise, he still does. also sorry for bad english, it's not my origial language. |
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| It was nice to see how some events came to be in Attack on Titan 1st season. When Annie kicked Reiner's butt it reminded me of when Levi kicked Eren. "From one Hand to Another" Good episode :) |
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| Oh my god, the next episode will definitely have Eren revealing himself!! The attack on Paradis could've been easily avoided if they left like Annie said. Reiner got beat up horribly as a child but still not a horrible backstory so I despise him, but a little less. I was suprised when they cut off the episode while Eren and Falco were talking. |
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| Annie beating Reiner was brutal but all I heard were facts. I like reiner and annie tho excited for eren reveal next ep |
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| Ah now I understand this show more now because of this episode, cleared some things up to me since I'm an anime only fan for SnK. Nice episode overall, if I'm not wrong they used the WIT Studio Armored titan in the flashback on season 1 ep 1, seemed kinda out of place in terms of art just a tiny tiny bit. 5/5 Episode |
| Honestly didn't mind the fast pacing. It was fast, but it was also smooth for the most part and it flowed well. I'm a bit biased since I've read the manga, but regardless, the backstory is pretty easy to follow. They also didn't cut anything of importance, only some scenes for immersion, which is kinda understandable to be irritated about, but there's a lot of dense chapters to adapt. Saving screen time is super important and they did it really well. MAPPA is doing great, wayy above my expectations. |
| GREAT episode,they really nailed it with the animation imo on this and the 2DS look fucking amazing! as for the plot: kid reiner looked like falco at the start in bed and he sounds too similar to kid eren for my ears lol,so it seems Marcel death is what casued his split persona? also im at loss why annie would chase kenny or even know he exists? and im confused about the hanged guy story meaning.i have to rewatch for that. also about the end scene also half eldian/half marley,wouldn't he be weaker then full eldian? he proably shouldn't be able to transform anyway. i wonder if thats why he's so weak compared to others but great episode nonetheless! god bless hayashi! |
Sad7727Dec 20, 2020 1:57 PM
| The ones who are clearly upset about this episode are the ones who are expecting a 2011 Hunter X Hunter-esque adaptation of the source material. My SO (who is a fan of both AOT manga and anime) told me that the scenes that were cut from this episode were of least significance to the narrative based on how the whole episode was scripted/directed. Other than that, this episode has been well-played. Nothing felt like something was left out. It has is its kino moments, which I personally loved. Only thing is that the WIT inserts really felt out of place due to palette difference. That's my only qualms about it. |
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| Sounds like only people who read the manga actually understood whats happening here. Cuz as an anime only watcher I didnt understand shit. |
| Falco seems to have made a new friend. I'm sure he will be a nice man who loves his city very much. |
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keragamming said: animejas said: Still boring for me but better than the previous 2 episodes, felt nice seeing some old faces again and the ending was a solid point to finish the episode off. Pacing didn't bother me much unlike some of the comments I'm seeing here personally. I'm getting more and more used to the visual changes and I can say MAPPA are doing fairly decently animation wise, still prefer the colors and designs of WIT's though despite MAPPA showing more direction flair with better usage of camera shots. Just to let you know manga readers hated these chapters, in the manga what worse is that they were following it monthly, while for you the pacing is faster and you only have to wait a week for new episodes, so you probably would even hate it more if you were following this arc monthly. Don't know about hating, but reading it monthly often makes it hard to give a fuck. |
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| Overall, this episode was pretty great. They totally turned Reiner from being one of the most hated characters to one of the most lovable. It's nice seeing everything from his point of view. Also those childhood memories of Reiner in camp were welcome additions. Kinda sucks that they didn't include the complete story of what happened before they broke down the wall of shiganshina district. It really leaves why Annie wasn't a part of it completely unexplained so yeah that's a bummer. |
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| Come on! How hard can it be to not cut important scenes? |
| The studio captured suicidal Reiner very well. In general the back stories for Reiner, Bertolt, and Annie were great. |
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| i got spoiled (thanks killjoys) and so i know who the long haired guy is - - but that's all we are getting? it's been three episodes my dudes... i have nothing against the eldians from the mainland, i do sympathise with them a bit more than before, but i'm so much more invested in the paradis crew. i've been waiting for them all this time!!! enough with the flashbacks please!!! |
| I gotta say this was a nice episode. There were some scenes that were cut out or omitted. Where Reiner fails so many tests, and as Porco mentioned his loyalty is the only thing that matters. Some other scenes were also omitted or cut a little. Though not too much was cut out. But I wish it could've been there for good reasons. But it is not much of a big deal. I guess they are trying to get to the point. That ending is nicely done. Can't say much for now. That much is considered. |
maiawatchesanime said: i got spoiled (thanks killjoys) and so i know who the long haired guy is - - but that's all we are getting? it's been three episodes my dudes... i have nothing against the eldians from the mainland, i do sympathise with them a bit more than before, but i'm so much more invested in the paradis crew. i've been waiting for them all this time!!! enough with the flashbacks please!!! next episode is the festival and reiner is looking suprised,so prob near the end of ep4,by ep5 we'll have them fully. |
| This one is a bit more actually rushed compared to the last two episodes. You do have a bit of details cut on what exactly Reiner, Annie and Bert were doing in all their time there. It's not super essential character development and I understand why of everything to cut but I would have liked it. The actual stuff they adapted was great though honestly I have been looking forward to this adaption mainly just to hear Yoshimasa Hosoya and Yuki Kaji deliver some of the big lines. The last Eren scene was a big deal when I read it in the manga . They have 13 episodes to adapt around 21-23 chapters which will be back a bit more to the pacing of previous seasons. |
| Really solid episode at first I was a little pissed that they barely showed eren but those final minutes hit really hard AND I'M HYPED. NEXT WEEK WILL BE AMAZING!! |
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| I am an anime-only but after watching this ep,I went and skimmed through ch 94 - 97.5(my first time ever touching the manga) to see what was the ruckus all about.And yes they did cut things.Now obviously its an anime adaptation.Nothing is going to be 100% adapted and I am ok with what they did,but some scenes could have been compromised to adapt other important things.I think their choice of what to adapt was a bit off this ep(The last two were perfectly fine).They could have trimmed something here and there to show us the Reiner gang's pursuit to the first wall,but they directly resumed it from after Berthold became the Colossal.They also erased a important(not too much to the story but as Reiner's development) conversation between Reiner,Berthold and Annie which I want them to show later,someway,somehow. That said,MAPPA did nail with some of the scenes,the warrior candidates fighting against the army at the start and the brawl between Reiner and Annie,though Reiner looked a bit disfigured sometimes.Don't expect season 1 and 2's qualtiy of smooth animation always,but MAPPA did show us their cards in all three episodes.First with the good use of CGI,then with dynamic animation in dialogue heavy second episode and then with the story-rich impactful third ep.Thatssaid,we know they have the capability to deliver when it matters. They can start using plethora of different soundtracks from previous seasons instead of repeating that same old trailer one,just like they are freely showing WIT's animation in the flashbacks.Although I did hear one or two tracks from previous seasons this episode.Start using more MAPPA.Now whatever I said was coming from someone who read the chapters but after the watching the episode as an anime-only I was completely blown off.This ep was really good and felt "shit's about to get real good" type of vibe.I mean that is bound to happen,animation can only do so much to an episode if the story is too good and the brilliance is in delivering that story which MAPPA did quite well tbh.5/5 as an anime only but 4/5 after reading the chapters.They nailed it with the ending.Now I didn't know whether it was intended in the manga but the anime expect us now by now the identity of the one-legged guy I only want that conversation between Reiner,ANnie and Bert about how they can't return back,otherwise a great ep.And also is this thing about adapting all the chapters in 16 ep right.I mean they will add a second part or movie right? |
ZenerDec 20, 2020 2:34 PM
Omertaskaya said: What scenes were cut ? Can you tell roughly ? Just read from ch 94-97.5,don't worry you won't learn anything extra except the scenes cut |
| I’m so glad that they went into Reiner’s backstory. The fact that he was the weakest and had the most dedicated mindset really makes his split personality and attempted suicide so understandable. I’m glad we finally got to see Eren, fitting that he snuck into the society in a similar way to how Reiner and the other warriors did. |
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