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blackjew said: BigBoss said: Yes the brain fully dies in 3 or so minutes so even if they did hit the timing for the massaging heart and lungs the brain functionality would be long gone. Never mentioned that Bungee Gum has any healing powers but at how "versatile" it is that wtf is even the limit to that then. And I'm saying it isn't versatile in the way you're implying in this topic. lol All it did was contract and expand it's just its basic function. What can be called a problem here is just in the timing for CPR, base in real world facts of course. But we are talking about HxH. Killua has trained to withstand electric shocks and poison while not even knowing nen, so these guys are stronger people than "real" people in the first place. And I don't know why you thought they have gone to a Hotel room and took their time and all. Exactly. I think we have all seen way more crazy stuff in this series than in this chapter. If a character "comes back from the dead" in any work of fiction, the first reaction is almost always disbelief. My very first reaction upon reading this chapter was also "omg wtf deus ex machina saved Hisoka", but after giving it some thought, I actually think his revival is one of the most internally consistent ones I have seen in a long time. Also, you can argue that the very fact that the CPR was successful indicates that the time frame between the explosion and his revival was indeed a short one. AFAIK we have no other convincing means of establishing how much time has passed, so isn't it best to go with what best suits the story instead of making up numbers (some people here are claiming more than one hour has passed, why?). Come on, give Togashi some credit. |
Mikasa said: The only sensible conjecture here is what that guy said about fiction's standards compared to real life. As for the heart rate issue, what if he only let out the blood via certain streams? And the chest beat reduced due to the gum? Pretty sure he was full blown dead as he said it himself when he came back to life not in "maintenance half alive mode" where he somehow hid his signs of life and that wasn't even the command that he gave to bungee gum. |
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SyrioFRL said: blackjew said: And I'm saying it isn't versatile in the way you're implying in this topic. lol All it did was contract and expand it's just its basic function. What can be called a problem here is just in the timing for CPR, base in real world facts of course. But we are talking about HxH. Killua has trained to withstand electric shocks and poison while not even knowing nen, so these guys are stronger people than "real" people in the first place. And I don't know why you thought they have gone to a Hotel room and took their time and all. Exactly. I think we have all seen way more crazy stuff in this series than in this chapter. If a character "comes back from the dead" in any work of fiction, the first reaction is almost always disbelief. My very first reaction upon reading this chapter was also "omg wtf deus ex machina saved Hisoka", but after giving it some thought, I actually think his revival is one of the most internally consistent ones I have seen in a long time. Also, you can argue that the very fact that the CPR was successful indicates that the time frame between the explosion and his revival was indeed a short one. AFAIK we have no other convincing means of establishing how much time has passed, so isn't it best to go with what best suits the story instead of making up numbers (some people here are claiming more than one hour has passed, why?). Come on, give Togashi some credit. Gon did not die but I thought his survival was more intricate. |
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DarkAngel035 said: Okay. I just finished reading the complete English scanlation of this chapter and it all makes sense. I know I said it felt like an asspull earlier and I take it back. Hisoka did die due to suffocation and it's not difficult to understand why he managed to revive. He revived by giving his nen orders that should he die, let it (his nen in the form of bungee gum) revive and massage his heart and lungs. It's not that impossible given that his nen has the properties of both rubber and gum acting as protective nen from further damaging his organs and and due to his great resolve, it stayed and activated after his death. "Nen activated" after death has been already established with the Chimera Ants. Chrollo's "sun and moon" is also one example. It's not the first time HxH brought this idea and that nen after death is even much stronger. And about Hisoka's growing limbs...no, they didn't really grow back to the original. It's more like just a facade to deceive you into thinking that his limbs and all his wounds have recovered but they have not. As I have already mentioned, his nen has the properties of rubber and gum so his "recovered" limbs and flesh parts were not real flesh and limbs but are actually made out of rubber and attached them because of its gum properties. So in a nutshell, his current form is that hideous form of his after the fight should he remove his texture surprise. There wasn't healing made. It was all a lie and deceit to look as if he actually recovers. Nen after death was established in Yprknew. In the 1999 anime both Uvo and Paku haunt Kurapika after death. |
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| What an awful chapter, not because I hate Hisoka, but because of the blatant plot convenience some are calling an ass-pull and how it essentially reformed his character altogether. Hisoka basically assassinated both Kortopi and Shalnark, wtf? I'm more concerned about Kalluto now. Hisoka said he was going to hunt down the rest of the troupe which puts Kalluto in danger. I love the entire Zoldyck family but his/her death would be an interesting way to involve Killua and his family in this arc, damn. I find it hilarious how people think Feitans a badass considering how hard he struggled against that fake ant queen when compared to the other's fight against the royal guards and king who were immensely more powerful than it. That "painpacker" crap may be good in series like DBZ and Fairy Tail where all the heroes and villains stand around staring at each other during fights but in HxH, that ability's a total joke. It doesn't take much for people to die in this series, most abilities and combat presented in this show are all almost instantly fatal. Hisoka will probably one shot him, lol. |
| His Bungee Gum brings him back to life, conveniently as soon as the other Troupe members leave the room, and also repairs his damaged limbs to the point where he can easily kill healthy Troupe members.............? And some people don't see why others would find this as plot armour? Machi was inflicted with Plot-induced stupidity. She as an experienced Nen user knows full well how Nen works and not only decides to go tamper with Hisoka's dead body of all people, but decides to do so when the other Troupe members leave the room! Seriously? |
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MoonStar9 said: His Bungee Gum brings him back to life, conveniently as soon as the other Troupe members leave the room, and also repairs his damaged limbs to the point where he can easily kill healthy Troupe members.............? And some people don't see why others would find this as plot armour? Machi was inflicted with Plot-induced stupidity. She as an experienced Nen user knows full well how Nen works and not only decides to go tamper with Hisoka's dead body of all people, but decides to do so when the other Troupe members leave the room! Seriously? Machi did literally nothing other than close his eyes |
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SaSa-Zoldyck said: They would have noticed that he still had a pulse. Yeah and the whole thing is not even ambiguous, not sure what the argument is about. Hisoka asked Machi if he was dead and she said he was as dead as a rock or something, Machi has the best senses of any troupe member so if she says so, then it is beyond any reasonable doubt I think. |
| So is this why Kurapika was pissed? because Hisoka is in the hunt for the spiders? |
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| I actually thought Hisoka's resurrection made sense with the Nen concepts presented so far. |
| This chapter was super BIZARRE.... It0s time of Hisoka Bizarre adventures - the limit of 3 minutes refers to lethal sequels, not a brain death itself. - there were cases in which a person did not suffer lethal consequences after getting a revival 3 minutes/more later. - Chrollo will be a passenger, not a bodyguard I understand the NeN. I'm completly sure that the revival was not an asspull. In fact the criticism goes to the fact how easy Hisoka's healed his injuries after death: apparently... he's stronger. then when my Boy Gon recovers his Aura, he will be stronger Come on. Hisoka, Pariston, phanton trope, The zodiac, Beyond, Kurapika, Leorio, the princes: Thanks Togashi |
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blackjew said: BigBoss said: That's not really all it did, it did even on the precise timing, it didn't just contract and expand how he said that it should work. he said when his heart and lungs stop that bungee gum should "contract and expand" them to full force but it only happend after 30 or so minutes, even if it was in 15 min still far fetched but hey we are talking about an asspull. Because they think he is dead? why would they be in a hurry if hey know for a fact that he is dead for what reason would they want to do this in like 5 min or so? they even checked to see if he is dead for sure, stayed in the room for a while, did we even read the same chapter? The nen activated, the time of activation itself isn't a property of Bungee Gum. There is not really a set time for nen activation after death, if there was they would await that time to confirm. Pitou too didn't activated right away. Well, you can call this time too convenient but as I said it doesn't have to do with Bungee Gum. All Hisoka did was wish and give the command, he wasn't yet alive to time the command of his Bungee Gum or his nen. He was dead and all, but clearly they weren't in a hotel room, which Hotel room has gym lockers? They must be still inside Heavens Arena. Also all this speculation about time frames is dumb. Don't know why you are so hung up on "hotel room" even if it's still in the heavens arena doesn't mean that they moved him so fast to the first available room in the arena, as I said dont' see why they would even be in a hurry. Honestly all this debating is dumb as we are completely set upon our own standings without letting go so let's just leave it at that. |
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Mikasa said: DarkAngel035 said: Okay. I just finished reading the complete English scanlation of this chapter and it all makes sense. I know I said it felt like an asspull earlier and I take it back. Hisoka did die due to suffocation and it's not difficult to understand why he managed to revive. He revived by giving his nen orders that should he die, let it (his nen in the form of bungee gum) revive and massage his heart and lungs. It's not that impossible given that his nen has the properties of both rubber and gum acting as protective nen from further damaging his organs and and due to his great resolve, it stayed and activated after his death. "Nen activated" after death has been already established with the Chimera Ants. Chrollo's "sun and moon" is also one example. It's not the first time HxH brought this idea and that nen after death is even much stronger. And about Hisoka's growing limbs...no, they didn't really grow back to the original. It's more like just a facade to deceive you into thinking that his limbs and all his wounds have recovered but they have not. As I have already mentioned, his nen has the properties of rubber and gum so his "recovered" limbs and flesh parts were not real flesh and limbs but are actually made out of rubber and attached them because of its gum properties. So in a nutshell, his current form is that hideous form of his after the fight should he remove his texture surprise. There wasn't healing made. It was all a lie and deceit to look as if he actually recovers. Nen after death was established in Yprknew. In the 1999 anime both Uvo and Paku haunt Kurapika after death. Yes, but the basic biology makes no sense. And the Nen thing... well it's not as simple as some say, at least there should be consequences to this... but there weren't. |
| The only thing I couldn't really understand was How could Hisoka survive that blast with such magnitude? and ho exactly this "Nen become stronger through death" works? About how he fixed his wound, I think he didn't really heal all his wound at all. As far as I can understand he just use his gum and molded it like the lost parts of his body (fingers and foot) and using texture surprise to clean it and make it looks real. But the wound is technically still there, he still lost his right foot and that one he re-made is just a fake one from nen. It is almost like Aokiji who replace his foot from ice I think, also I saw one panel when his right foot turn into rubber to enhance his speed when he was about to kill shalnark. |
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Agafin said: SaSa-Zoldyck said: They would have noticed that he still had a pulse. Yeah and the whole thing is not even ambiguous, not sure what the argument is about. Hisoka asked Machi if he was dead and she said he was as dead as a rock or something, Machi has the best senses of any troupe member so if she says so, then it is beyond any reasonable doubt I think. Yeah. I don't understand why it is so hard for some fans to admit that the writer made a mistake. It doesn't take anything away from the series or mangaka, this is still an amazing story with very little mistakes but ch 357 sucked. |
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Mikasa said: MoonStar9 said: His Bungee Gum brings him back to life, conveniently as soon as the other Troupe members leave the room, and also repairs his damaged limbs to the point where he can easily kill healthy Troupe members.............? And some people don't see why others would find this as plot armour? Machi was inflicted with Plot-induced stupidity. She as an experienced Nen user knows full well how Nen works and not only decides to go tamper with Hisoka's dead body of all people, but decides to do so when the other Troupe members leave the room! Seriously? Machi did literally nothing other than close his eyes Touching his body, while alone and knowing Nen can be activated after death, was stupid. She should have at least been cautious it was booby trapped with Nen. It wasn't, but she should have expected it. |
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StefanHere said: the only thing about the breathing thing I would say, is that the characters in the Hunter x Hunter universe are more different from real life, hell 12 year old kids were running for manyhours hours without breaks and not tires at all, when in real life that's not possiblethis chapter definitely had a horrible first impression but after getting more information the only problem is the oxygen deprivation Hisoka should of been long brain dead i really do like how the art and how this chapter was structured |
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SenpaiJay98 said: StefanHere said: the only thing about the breathing thing I would say, is that the characters in the Hunter x Hunter universe are more different from real life, hell 12 year old kids were running for manyhours hours without breaks and not tires at all, when in real life that's not possiblethis chapter definitely had a horrible first impression but after getting more information the only problem is the oxygen deprivation Hisoka should of been long brain dead i really do like how the art and how this chapter was structured only in HxH? jajaja well why do you have that avatar? sure Luffy is the perfect example of any boy. this is Shonen Manga. it's more realist than any others, anyway this is unreal |
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UpperCat said: The only thing I couldn't really understand was How could Hisoka survive that blast with such magnitude? and ho exactly this "Nen become stronger through death" works? That part reminds me of dbz, where its said a sayain becomes stronger after near death. This is all bullshit, but it would have been better if it was near death and not literally dead, before power up. lol |
keragamming said: UpperCat said: The only thing I couldn't really understand was How could Hisoka survive that blast with such magnitude? and ho exactly this "Nen become stronger through death" works? That part reminds me of dbz, where its said a sayain becomes stronger after near death. This is all bullshit, but it would have been better if it was near death and not literally dead, before power up. lol this is a misundertanding Bullshit is after Freezer arc, the fact "sayayin becomes stronger after near death" it was forgotten |
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keragamming said: UpperCat said: The only thing I couldn't really understand was How could Hisoka survive that blast with such magnitude? and ho exactly this "Nen become stronger through death" works? That part reminds me of dbz, where its said a sayain becomes stronger after near death. This is all bullshit, but it would have been better if it was near death and not literally dead, before power up. lol Also what exactly are needed in order to do that, do they need to match certain condition or requirements first? because from all I can see, it is just need a strong will there. |
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| Hisoka's resurrection makes sense why don't you see the plot behind this? Ging vs Pariston Beyond vs Zodiac Kurapika vs Troupe/ prince Hisoka vs Troupe the calamities? the dark continent? the best form all this is precisely Togashi give us an exciting plot behind the fighting, not only/the classic: "how dare you to kick my friend ass, I'll fight you just because" |
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| Just about every single complaint on here saying how this was an "asspull" was explained away in the chapter. The condition that made it work was that Hisoka utterly accepted "death", which, like Gon-san, strengthened the contract immeasurably. It was a gamble to begin with, because if his flaring of Ren hadn't worked in physically protecting him - along with some of the puppets that diluted the explosion - his heart-and-lungs resuscitation wouldn't have cut it. It's a somewhat contrived scenario dependent on luck, but the whole point is to remind us of how absurdly talented and psychotic Hisoka is; that he'll easily gambit away his life at a mere chance of survival. As for why he's now "randomly" targeting the spiders, he knows that the one thing Chrollo truly cares about is the spiders' survival, which is his legacy. This will motivate him to now chase Hisoka, which will now give him the choice of playing field. Also: "asspull" may just be my most hated internet-phrase. |
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UpperCat said: The only thing I couldn't really understand was How could Hisoka survive that blast with such magnitude? and ho exactly this "Nen become stronger through death" works? Because of all the corpse like Sharnalk said: "I kind of expected him to have taken more damages than this" "They ended up serving to "cushion" him from the explosion somewhat" He died from suffocation. |
UpperCat said: keragamming said: That part reminds me of dbz, where its said a sayain becomes stronger after near death. This is all bullshit, but it would have been better if it was near death and not literally dead, before power up. lol Also what exactly are needed in order to do that, do they need to match certain condition or requirements first? because from all I can see, it is just need a strong will there. lol, no explanation needed, just some made up bullshit that you should turn your brain off and don't think too much into it. Or use the cheap excuse of having a strong will to live like you said. Though in other situation using the strong will to live theme isn't bad, but for this case, it screams bullshit. Don't really care though, Never thought Hisoka would die anyways and killing off such a great character would be a waste imo. Killing boring Gon would be a better option. ;) |
Dangerr said: Just about every single complaint on here saying how this was an "asspull" was explained away in the chapter. The condition that made it work was that Hisoka utterly accepted "death", which, like Gon-san, strengthened the contract immeasurably. It was a gamble to begin with, because if his flaring of Ren hadn't worked in physically protecting him - along with some of the puppets that diluted the explosion - his heart-and-lungs resuscitation wouldn't have cut it. It's a somewhat contrived scenario dependent on luck, but the whole point is to remind us of how absurdly talented and psychotic Hisoka is; that he'll easily gambit away his life at a mere chance of survival. As for why he's now "randomly" targeting the spiders, he knows that the one thing Chrollo truly cares about is the spiders' survival, which is his legacy. This will motivate him to now chase Hisoka, which will now give him the choice of playing field. Also: "asspull" may just be my most hated internet-phrase. some people did not even understand what Asspull means. |
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Dangerr said: Just about every single complaint on here saying how this was an "asspull" was explained away in the chapter. The condition that made it work was that Hisoka utterly accepted "death", which, like Gon-san, strengthened the contract immeasurably. It was a gamble to begin with, because if his flaring of Ren hadn't worked in physically protecting him - along with some of the puppets that diluted the explosion - his heart-and-lungs resuscitation wouldn't have cut it. It's a somewhat contrived scenario dependent on luck, but the whole point is to remind us of how absurdly talented and psychotic Hisoka is; that he'll easily gambit away his life at a mere chance of survival. As for why he's now "randomly" targeting the spiders, he knows that the one thing Chrollo truly cares about is the spiders' survival, which is his legacy. This will motivate him to now chase Hisoka, which will now give him the choice of playing field. Also: "asspull" may just be my most hated internet-phrase. Yeah, many still are disbelief and say it doesn't make sense. Iunno but it makes sense to me after I read the chapter. |
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keragamming said: UpperCat said: Also what exactly are needed in order to do that, do they need to match certain condition or requirements first? because from all I can see, it is just need a strong will there. lol, no explanation needed, just some made up bullshit that you should turn your brain off and don't think too much into it. Or use the cheap excuse of having a strong will to live like you said. Though in other situation using the strong will to live theme isn't bad, but for this case, it screams bullshit. Don't really care though, Never thought Hisoka would die anyways and killing off such a great character would be a waste imo. Killing boring Gon would be a better option. ;) you are conveniently ignoring the point. it's bullshit when did not make sense, however is debatible and negative How Saiyajines did not increase his power after Freezer arc |
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junne_ said: ...ok, what the fuck. Hisoka just pulled a gigantic deus ex out of his ass to stay alive and started killing all the Troupe for no reason at all? Wasn't killing the Troupe Kurapika's purpose in this story? This is getting pretty wild, honestly, but it's fun. This feels like Yorknew arc 2.0, which is fine by me. I just hope we can see Illumi finally fighting soon, too. Kurapika's main purpose: recover Kurta eyes Why is not an aspull: 1. he did not use vow-limitation 2. he was suffocated 3. Nen becomes stronger after death (strong will) 4. he use properties of gum debatable: 1. time of revival later-death 2. Did hisoka accept his defeat, since he did not use the properties of gum to recover his leg/hand against Chrollo? |
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| Lmao, Hisoka is now a zombie pedo murder clown, how can this man get even worse? The people complaining about Hisoka coming back to life need to read more bizarre medical cases... there have been grandmas who've come back to life 45+ minutes after being confirmed dead by medical professionals, without the assistance of Nen and with no apparent brain damage. Dangerr said: Just about every single complaint on here saying how this was an "asspull" was explained away in the chapter. The condition that made it work was that Hisoka utterly accepted "death", which, like Gon-san, strengthened the contract immeasurably. It was a gamble to begin with, because if his flaring of Ren hadn't worked in physically protecting him - along with some of the puppets that diluted the explosion - his heart-and-lungs resuscitation wouldn't have cut it. It's a somewhat contrived scenario dependent on luck, but the whole point is to remind us of how absurdly talented and psychotic Hisoka is; that he'll easily gambit away his life at a mere chance of survival. As for why he's now "randomly" targeting the spiders, he knows that the one thing Chrollo truly cares about is the spiders' survival, which is his legacy. This will motivate him to now chase Hisoka, which will now give him the choice of playing field. Also: "asspull" may just be my most hated internet-phrase. You summed everything up very nicely. Asspull is overused IMO. It's not like Togashi contradicted anything he's established before. People have a tendency to get wrapped up in their own headcanons, and forget that world building is a continuous process... massive info-dumps that establish all the "rules" of a universe at the beginning of a story would be incredibly tedious and boring. |
cronosteso23 said: junne_ said: ...ok, what the fuck. Hisoka just pulled a gigantic deus ex out of his ass to stay alive and started killing all the Troupe for no reason at all? Wasn't killing the Troupe Kurapika's purpose in this story? This is getting pretty wild, honestly, but it's fun. This feels like Yorknew arc 2.0, which is fine by me. I just hope we can see Illumi finally fighting soon, too. Kurapika's main purpose: recover Kurta eyes Why is not an aspull: 1. he did not use vow-limitation 2. he was suffocated 3. Nen becomes stronger after death (strong will) 4. he use properties of gum debatable: 1. time of revival later-death 2. Did hisoka accept his defeat, since he did not use the properties of gum to recover his leg/hand against Chrollo? 1. Shouldn't that make it an asspull? he pulled something this big with just his regular hatsu without making any extreme conditions like a nen vow. 2. Yes and apparently it wasn't enough for him to stay dead with that one. 3. And it seems it became self aware as the timing to revive him was just perfect. 4. And rubber, don't forget the rubber. |
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Digong said: Good - Chrollo will go to the whale ship o_O Bad - Big asspull in Hisoka - Machi felt out of her character - Shalnark and Kortopi died instant - WTF Yep the title of the chapter says it all. Disappointment Perfectly summarized chapter. Really really disappointed on how two spiders are insta killed when we spent 7 chapters on the Chrollo Fight. |
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BigBoss said: The condition literally involved death. Hisoka's one of those very few individuals with the absolute resolve to die when forming a Nen-contract; almost anyone would keep a small amount of hope or self-preservation in their heart. He and Gon have shown that they can completely abandon that inclination.1. Shouldn't that make it an asspull? he pulled something this big with just his regular hatsu without making any extreme conditions like a nen vow. Granted, Hisoka gambled that he would be able to revive himself, but death was stipulated all the same. |
Dangerr said: BigBoss said: The condition literally involved death. Hisoka's one of those very few individuals with the absolute resolve to die when forming a Nen-contract; almost anyone would keep a small amount of hope or self-preservation in their heart. He and Gon have shown that they can completely abandon that inclination.1. Shouldn't that make it an asspull? he pulled something this big with just his regular hatsu without making any extreme conditions like a nen vow. Granted, Hisoka gambled that he would be able to revive himself, but death was stipulated all the same. But what price did he pay then? sure it seems that he didn't really heal any of his missing limbs but it sure looks like he doesn't need them as bungee gum is even more then enough of a replacement. This was such a huge feat yet almost nothing was payed as a price, if something will be brought up in future chapters I am looking forward to that but from what we currently have, I'm not buying this shit. |
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