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sadfacelv said: Why stereotypes?If you need to call her something she is closest to being Coodere...After meking peace with Yuuji she pretty much acts like a cooDERE...Iasuru said: Yumiko isn't a tsundere don't give a bad image to tsunderes, they already are having a hard time. Who is she then? She is too emotional and violent for coodere, they are usually calm, Ayanami Rei is classic example;; |
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LonelyWizard said: sadfacelv said: Why stereotypes?If you need to call her something she is closest to being Coodere...After meking peace with Yuuji she pretty much acts like a cooDERE...Who is she then? She is too emotional and violent for coodere, they are usually calm, Ayanami Rei is classic example;; Kuudere* ┐(￣ー￣)┌ I agree with LonelyWizard, she is more of a Kuudere. Yumiko isn't acting aggressive because she is embarrassed. |
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| in the VN they do specifically refer to her as a Kuudere constantly too |
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| I'm slightly disappointed that they skipped Yuuji's story, which in the VN was one of my favourite elements. However, I was surprised that they actually animated the chibi scene as well. And so it kinda balances out. |
| pansu all the way :D love that tsundere |
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| More Yumiko moments isn't it? I'm liking her so far even though she's cold towards Yuuji. Oh you reminds me of Hitagi. And Makina/Yuuji moments was indeed cute and funny. If this is only a 1-cour show and you played the game, is it okay for you? (Well, obvious answer is not) but what do you feel about it? |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
| Still looking good, but I'm a bit worried about the future of this series =/ I'm just nitpicking but they really should cut down on those panty shots. Also why, why would you skip the awesome "cool story" which Yuuji told to Makina? xD It would've been the highlight of this episode. It seems highly likely that the anime is gonna focus on Yumiko, which is quite disappointing for me =/ but it's still too early to speculate, let's hope I'm wrong |
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| Dat ass all over this episode. On a serious matter the episode was good despite the slow pacing. |
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| It felt like nothing happened this episode. Hahaha. All slice of life except Yumiko with her utility knife. |
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| Yumiko is main girl, 13 eps for one of the longest VN to date(lets not kids ourselves this isnt split cour). Oh well. |
| This really has been a generic ecchi harem so far. |
Fiji said: It felt like nothing happened this episode. Hahaha. All slice of life except Yumiko with her utility knife. Yeah, pretty much a build up slice of life episode. MotRin said: This really has been a generic ecchi harem so far. That's the comedy/ecchi/slice of life common route, though people overuse the world generic way too much... it will have surprises, you'll see. |
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DeadIJuicyPriest said: Fiji said: It felt like nothing happened this episode. Hahaha. All slice of life except Yumiko with her utility knife. Yeah, pretty much a build up slice of life episode. MotRin said: This really has been a generic ecchi harem so far. That's the comedy/ecchi/slice of life common route, though people overuse the world generic too much... it will have surprises, you'll see. It really has not distinguishes itself from any other series of the same genre. There is implication of something dark lurking in the background but it has not been making use of it. |
| Is it just me who believes having foreshadowing shoved down your throat every episode of something is utterly cheap and terrible story writing? To those who thinks it's utterly generic, you're entitled to that opinion but that's your own ignorance. Build up episodes of 'slice of life' is meant to be the building-blocks of interpersonal relationships to give us as viewers and the protagonist a reason to feel for each character. These type of episodes are as important to the plot as the eventual 'route' episodes are. What's the point watching something where things happen to characters right away and the protagonist forcefully helps the heroines for no other reason than just lazy writing. If the protagonist doesn't build any form of relationship with these girls before he starts to help them, how are we suppose to find it believable or logical if he just does it because "Oh i'm the plot-device, well then." Sorry for the small rant, but sheesh, there's so much pessimism these shallow type of viewers throw around that it begins to grate a little. "No opinion is a wrong opinion" is also a terrible excuse, when the opinion has no dignified argument or qualities to backup a claim. |
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MotRin said: DeadIJuicyPriest said: Yeah, pretty much a build up slice of life episode. That's the comedy/ecchi/slice of life common route, though people overuse the world generic too much... it will have surprises, you'll see. It really has not distinguishes itself from any other series of the same genre. There is implication of something dark lurking in the background but it has not been making use of it. It's just 2nd episode of a very long trilogy with well done pacing that follows the VNs well, what else do you expect from it at the very introduction of the series?... |
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Livv said: Is it just me who believes having foreshadowing shoved down your throat every episode of something is utterly cheap and terrible story writing? To those who thinks it's utterly generic, you're entitled to that opinion but that's your own ignorance. Build up episodes of 'slice of life' is meant to be the building-blocks of interpersonal relationships to give us as viewers and the protagonist a reason to feel for each character. These type of episodes are as important to the plot as the eventual 'route' episodes are. What's the point watching something where things happen to characters right away and the protagonist forcefully helps the heroines for no other reason than just lazy writing. If the protagonist doesn't build any form of relationship with these girls before he starts to help them, how are we suppose to find it believable or logical if he just does it because "Oh i'm the plot-device, well then." Sorry for the small rant, but sheesh, there's so much pessimism these shallow type of viewers throw around that it begins to grate a little. "No opinion is a wrong opinion" is also a terrible excuse, when the opinion has no dignified argument or qualities to backup a claim. I agree, people should learn to use the graces of patience is a virtue, when you watch something you want a murder at every episode and guns and explosions? There are anime like that, but if you're looking that in Grisaia, you've come to the wrong place. It's all about the great storytelling, and it adapts the common route so far, which is like 20 hours long in the respective VN. You won't see any amazing action or psychological scenes just yet. It doesn't have genre shift in the VN tags for nothing... |
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| At moments it seems like your usual generic fanservice bullshit, but the darker mindfucky undertones certainly keep interest. Everything looks "usual" at first glance, but is genuinely disturbing when you look close and I would never in my life want to meet those people. Half the cast gives off yandere undertones, even the lead character. Still not sure what to make of this show. The undertones are certainly interesting, even if characters and fanservice feels quite generic. Also the lead character is a wee bit too gary-stu-ish now. It was not as obvious last episode, but in this one he excludes the annoying air of superiority to, well, everyone. If it will be way too unbalanced, it will start to get boring. Let's just hope that when the shit hits the fan, the build up will be worth it 3/5 |
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Livv said: Is it just me who believes having foreshadowing shoved down your throat every episode of something is utterly cheap and terrible story writing? To those who thinks it's utterly generic, you're entitled to that opinion but that's your own ignorance. Build up episodes of 'slice of life' is meant to be the building-blocks of interpersonal relationships to give us as viewers and the protagonist a reason to feel for each character. These type of episodes are as important to the plot as the eventual 'route' episodes are. What's the point watching something where things happen to characters right away and the protagonist forcefully helps the heroines for no other reason than just lazy writing. If the protagonist doesn't build any form of relationship with these girls before he starts to help them, how are we suppose to find it believable or logical if he just does it because "Oh i'm the plot-device, well then." Sorry for the small rant, but sheesh, there's so much pessimism these shallow type of viewers throw around that it begins to grate a little. "No opinion is a wrong opinion" is also a terrible excuse, when the opinion has no dignified argument or qualities to backup a claim. Well because not everyone cares for that form of storytelling. Well I like it (and I assume most visual novel readers like as most incorporate it), it also leads to much much slower pacing then other kinds of stories. Other effective means is building the bonds between the characters as the story goes a long but yeah. If its boring to people they are going to stop watching/reading before it gets to the more compelling parts which kind of defeats the purpose. Just remember that Grisaia's way of telling a story isn't for everyone. Yes it effectively made you care about all the chars by the end of the common route, but at the cost of a hugeeeee amount of time spent on practically nothing to accomplish this. |
Just remember that Grisaia's way of telling a story isn't for everyone. Yes it effectively made you care about all the chars by the end of the common route, but at the cost of a hugeeeee amount of time spent on practically nothing to accomplish this. Like when you are reading a book but only 3 Times longer😉 |
Sweanime said: Just remember that Grisaia's way of telling a story isn't for everyone. Yes it effectively made you care about all the chars by the end of the common route, but at the cost of a hugeeeee amount of time spent on practically nothing to accomplish this. Like when you are reading a book but only 3 Times longer😉 lawl yeah. Now the big issue with this episode. Is that it showed us that the 5 girls bonded previously already. Why? What's the point? Show us them bonding through the series so we can tell that they are good friends (like uh the visual novel), you don't need to shove it in our face. Seems like a cheap way of showing their friendship really. |
| Steins;Gate and Grisaia has both slow build ups to something great. I really enjoy shows with a slow start personally. |
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Livv said: Is it just me who believes having foreshadowing shoved down your throat every episode of something is utterly cheap and terrible story writing? To those who thinks it's utterly generic, you're entitled to that opinion but that's your own ignorance. Build up episodes of 'slice of life' is meant to be the building-blocks of interpersonal relationships to give us as viewers and the protagonist a reason to feel for each character. These type of episodes are as important to the plot as the eventual 'route' episodes are. What's the point watching something where things happen to characters right away and the protagonist forcefully helps the heroines for no other reason than just lazy writing. If the protagonist doesn't build any form of relationship with these girls before he starts to help them, how are we suppose to find it believable or logical if he just does it because "Oh i'm the plot-device, well then." Sorry for the small rant, but sheesh, there's so much pessimism these shallow type of viewers throw around that it begins to grate a little. "No opinion is a wrong opinion" is also a terrible excuse, when the opinion has no dignified argument or qualities to backup a claim. Give this man a cookie. Couldn't put it better myself. |
| Surprise to see Prologue de la Grisaia and Eden Song at the end. |
 Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
| Dat ass: Calm episode, liked it. |
| Meh episode. |
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| Chapter itself was again solid, but I feel that they still show too much panty shots. Then again, I suppose the fact they're only doing 13 episodes is the cause and they are aiming to get more sales. Looking foward to the next episode now that they have given a lot of screentime, since I expected them to follow either Makina or Chiruchiru now. |
DeadIJuicyPriest said: Steins;Gate and Grisaia has both slow build ups to something great. I really enjoy shows with a slow start personally. And that's fine, I personally do too. But yeah, just know that some people prefer plot oriented shows over more character oriented ones. |
hyperknees91 said: DeadIJuicyPriest said: Steins;Gate and Grisaia has both slow build ups to something great. I really enjoy shows with a slow start personally. And that's fine, I personally do too. But yeah, just know that some people prefer plot oriented shows over more character oriented ones. Or have them stand as equals, when the characterization can be achieved while advancing the story. Still,despite my complaints of Grisaia's extremely slow common route and more-than-necessary characterization,I'd still take that over a good story but with little-to-no characterization and that's something I believe most anime fans would prefer as well,although in varying degrees. Heck,we could just stick to movies otherwise. So,I think the anime's doing a good job at balancing it out so far. hyperknees91 said: Now the big issue with this episode. Is that it showed us that the 5 girls bonded previously already. Why? What's the point? Show us them bonding through the series so we can tell that they are good friends (like uh the visual novel), you don't need to shove it in our face. Seems like a cheap way of showing their friendship really. It might be too early to consider it an issue tbh,since the bonding of the girls may and SHOULD be shown in the upcoming episodes. |
hoootie said: Can someone explain in what universe a normal high school had 1 guy and 5 girls? In an anime universe,duh :P |
DiviMike said: hyperknees91 said: And that's fine, I personally do too. But yeah, just know that some people prefer plot oriented shows over more character oriented ones. Or have them stand as equals, when the characterization can be achieved while advancing the story. Still,despite my complaints of Grisaia's extremely slow common route and more-than-necessary characterization,I'd still take that over a good story but with little-to-no characterization and that's something I believe most anime fans would prefer as well,although in varying degrees. Heck,we could just stick to movies otherwise. So,I think the anime's doing a good job at balancing it out so far. hyperknees91 said: Now the big issue with this episode. Is that it showed us that the 5 girls bonded previously already. Why? What's the point? Show us them bonding through the series so we can tell that they are good friends (like uh the visual novel), you don't need to shove it in our face. Seems like a cheap way of showing their friendship really. It might be too early to consider it an issue tbh,since the bonding of the girls may and SHOULD be shown in the upcoming episodes. Well I just think the scene should have been shown in a later episode. It seems ineffective to show it now when we hardly know the girls (I mean it worked on me because I know it through the visual novel). Though I agree that balancing story and characterization is important. Which is something steins gate did but Grisaia didn't do. Though quite honestly the reason grisaia is so insanely long is because the writers get paid more for the more they write (a common visual novel problem) which is why the pacing in many visual novels is atrocious. I probably do prefer plot oriented over extremely dragged out but well characterizaed as well though. Saya no Uta was this and was overall very enjoyable (dangan ronpa is this as well). I think the only time its ok to do that is when its a pure character game and therefore...thats what the audience who bought the game was looking for anyway. |
DeadIJuicyPriest said: Dont argue with him...He will later go to the Akame ga Kill threads and complain about how characters died from first episodes and didnt feel anything for them...Its just 2 episodes,lol what do you expect...MotRin said: It really has not distinguishes itself from any other series of the same genre. There is implication of something dark lurking in the background but it has not been making use of it. It's just 2nd episode of a very long trilogy with well done pacing that follows the VNs well, what else do you expect from it at the very introduction of the series?... |
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Caleb8980 said: Completely agree...They dont have luxury to spend 1 episode to show girls bonding each other with 1 cour...showing Yuuji making bonds with others plenty enough...hyperknees91 said: Now the big issue with this episode. Is that it showed us that the 5 girls bonded previously already. Why? What's the point? Show us them bonding through the series so we can tell that they are good friends (like uh the visual novel), you don't need to shove it in our face. Seems like a cheap way of showing their friendship really. Why? Yumiko and the others are already there long before Yuuji arives at the school, so it is actually appropriate for them to have bonds of their own (and as I said earlier, this is also part of the canon story). Also the reason why they showed this was for legitimating why Yumiko acts like she does with Yuuji. She deeply cares about her friends, hence she wants to protect them from the "rapist" Yuuji. Without those scenes Yumiko's acting seems far more selfish than it is in reality ;-) |
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| Nothing strange with the bonding in the ending of the episode if you have played all 3 games. They are already friends before yuuji comes to the school. Mabey not "best friends" But yumiko is not a total outcast. But Yumiko is still blehh thou :P |
LonelyWizard said: Dont argue with him...He will later go to the Akame ga Kill threads and complain about how characters died from first episodes and didnt feel anything for them...Its just 2 episodes,lol what do you expect... I see that you have found my Akame ga Kill posts that I don't even know about. It has been slow slice of life for the last 2 episodes, that's a fact, regardless of how it will turn out later. |
MotRin said: jokes aside it slice of life of life which will show psychological stuff and drama/action depending of the route...No matter what it will contain SOL all the time,similar to Fate series...Grisaia has the longest common route so set your expectations depending on that...LonelyWizard said: Dont argue with him...He will later go to the Akame ga Kill threads and complain about how characters died from first episodes and didnt feel anything for them...Its just 2 episodes,lol what do you expect... I see that you have found my Akame ga Kill posts that I don't even know about. It has been slow slice of life for the last 2 episodes, that's a fact, regardless of how it will turn out later. |
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Caleb8980 said: hyperknees91 said: lawl yeah. Now the big issue with this episode. Is that it showed us that the 5 girls bonded previously already. Why? What's the point? Show us them bonding through the series so we can tell that they are good friends (like uh the visual novel), you don't need to shove it in our face. Seems like a cheap way of showing their friendship really. Why? Yumiko and the others are already there long before Yuuji arives at the school, so it is actually appropriate for them to have bonds of their own (and as I said earlier, this is also part of the canon story). Also the reason why they showed this was for legitimating why Yumiko acts like she does with Yuuji. She deeply cares about her friends, hence she wants to protect them from the "rapist" Yuuji. Without those scenes Yumiko's acting seems far more selfish than it is in reality ;-) EDIT: Btw I'm not saying that they couldn't have found another place for this "reveal" to further disguise Yumiko's reasons for acting like she did, but that this place wasn't as bad as you make it out to be. They shouldn't show it so early though is my complaint. It's useless to show these kinds of things before they portray their friendship for each other believably. Plus its a lazy way to show they are close friends. Their interactions should speak for themselves. |
| This anime still has many unexplained...mysteries,but i hope that they will be "put out to light" soon enough. Yuuji seems to be an OP character,i want to know more about his past though.. And tbh,i think i liked the "old" Sachi more than the maid Sachi :)) "All of you,kneel before me and lick my shoes" *innocent smile* :))) I think that the story would`ve been more...interesting with that^ personality haha~ ^~^ |
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SoulReaper05 said: This anime still has many unexplained...mysteries,but i hope that they will be "put out to light" soon enough. Yuuji seems to be an OP character,i want to know more about his past though.. And tbh,i think i liked the "old" Sachi more than the maid Sachi :)) "All of you,kneel before me and lick my shoes" *innocent smile* :))) I think that the story would`ve been more...interesting with that^ personality haha~ ^~^ That personality is still there and become so even more :P "My hands were still all gooey from fingering myself at the time, so it was quite a messy job. Here, open wide.... Do you like it?" Sachi giving meatballs to yuuji |
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NiyawaOct 14, 2014 7:14 AM
| Arctic Warfares are hot. |
Fuck that show the real rifle she uses ;) http://i.imgur.com/qXooq2h.jpg?1 |
SweanimeOct 13, 2014 11:15 AM
| Damn the MC is scary when he is in fight mode. Wonder if he has been trained his entire life to be a killing machine. |
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| was just about to link that :> |
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