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Feb 20, 2014 10:23 PM

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Yvese said:
I approve of the spanks.


Whats wrong with you...

Kuchenlight said:
I could enjoy this show a whole lot more if it wasn't for Ryuuko. She's such an annoying and overall bad character.
Every 3 or 4 episodes she seems to be in desperate need of drama, only to overcome it shortly after and go "now I'm even more awesome!", then it's back to more drama and then it's "but NOW I'm like REALLY awesome!!".
That plus her shounen'ish dialogues with Senketsu makes her the biggest flaw in a pretty good anime.


Yeah, I don't care much for Ryuko. She is a disappointing main character.
Feb 20, 2014 10:28 PM
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- Incoming Mako Mom NTR doujins.
- Gama x Mako, sure why not.
- Ragyo is trying to force Satsuki into a state of rage which somehow ties into Shinra-Koketsu or maybe something even bigger. All those molesting scenes actually serves a real point to be displayed like that beyond fanservice...maybe.
- Time for Ryuko to emo, it was unavoidable considering all that happen just hope it doesn't drag out too much. Still don't like her snapping on Senketsu, he's been a total bro the whole time. Maybe when they make up it will result in a new outfit design.
- Satsuki's..."blade" in her toenail? 2hardcore4me. Her resolve too strong.
Feb 20, 2014 10:29 PM
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wow i was not ready for this shit
we're definitely heading towards the climax now

i think ryuko is pretty great. i was impressed with her sassy attitude early on, but she hasn't really been in the show for a while. hopefully she gets fleshed out more in the coming episodes
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Feb 20, 2014 10:43 PM

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So, just realized this...

Ragyo is drawing Ryuuko out in order to use her in her plans.

Hold on, let me explain.
  • This explains her 180 in attitude. She was JUST in her best form while using Senetsu. JUST fully synchronized with him. WHY would she suddenly decide to stop wearing him, after becoming so close with him despite knowing he was made of life fibers already?
  • This also explains her blank, beady eyes, which no longer contain the 'wheel' shaped iris we're used to seeing.
  • Ryuuko's entire freak out happened as soon as the COVERS began playing that horrible music. The music that just HAPPENED to wake up Ryuuko - who until then had been in a month-long coma.

    How you ask? When Ragyo grabbed her heart.

    I had stated this theory at the end of the last episode thread, and I had hoped that it wouldn't happen, just due to how dark the undertones with it are, but it just makes sense.

    BRSxIgnition said:

    I had a really random thought/theory on the way home today - and if the show wants to go darker, I could see them doing this..

    What if Ragyo uses the thread again, but this time directly on Ryuuko's heart? Ryuuko has a ton of insecurities that she could use to her advantage, and Ragyo is heartless (pun not intended) enough to do it.

    Ugh that would be so dark. Then again, it's just a random theory - and Trigger is known to surprise with developments in times like these.

    So yeah... Ryuuko needs to be talked - or beaten- out of this. BADLY.
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    Feb 20, 2014 10:49 PM
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    I really liked the part where Mako and Gamagoor flirting, their moment was cute.

    Elite Four wore the Nudist Beach outfits...were pretty nice.
    Feb 20, 2014 11:26 PM

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    princessnight said:
    Does the writer of this episode had to show Ragyo do that to Satsuki? Eww, I feel like I need eye bleach. Now for the next few episodes I m gonna have an unpleasant feeling when I see Ragyo or any of her bitches.
    On main note, I am glad to see them being the strongest five. I wonder if we'll see any twist where Ryuko's father is still alive.
    Poor Senketsu though, being rejected by his only friend.

    I think they want to show her as heartless and also extremely villainous without any hope for redemption. Those scenes aren't really there for fanservice. They are extremely disturbing, disgusting and not fun to see at all.

    Ryuuko from the very start is a dysfunctional, bad girl character. So really, there's nothing strange or disappointing with how her character is.

    While Satsuki's gone through worse things, Ryuuko also had her fair share of shocks and sadness (not knowing her father better, being a school misfit, father being murdered, etc)
    Feb 20, 2014 11:29 PM
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    People, people, people...

    CHILL.

    Satsuki acknowledged that Ryuuko is her little sister. Her BLOOD sister.

    Anyone think that's going to be built upon?

    Also I know Dr Matoi/Souichiro was in a hurry to save the world but anyone think that his distance to his daughter is something that will be touched upon?

    By the way, I guess his whole speech before he died about Ryuuko finding out the truth and it destroying her has finally come to pass, huh?

    Finally, the episode aired yesterday yet this thread is already 9 pages and going.

    Proof that that was a cracking 24 minutes.




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    Jesus Ò-Ó Insane episode as usual <3
    Feb 20, 2014 11:38 PM
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    BRSxIgnition said:
    So, just realized this...

    Ragyo is drawing Ryuuko out in order to use her in her plans.

    Hold on, let me explain.
  • This explains her 180 in attitude. She was JUST in her best form while using Senetsu. JUST fully synchronized with him. WHY would she suddenly decide to stop wearing him, after becoming so close with him despite knowing he was made of life fibers already?
  • This also explains her blank, beady eyes, which no longer contain the 'wheel' shaped iris we're used to seeing.
  • Ryuuko's entire freak out happened as soon as the COVERS began playing that horrible music. The music that just HAPPENED to wake up Ryuuko - who until then had been in a month-long coma.

    How you ask? When Ragyo grabbed her heart.

    I had stated this theory at the end of the last episode thread, and I had hoped that it wouldn't happen, just due to how dark the undertones with it are, but it just makes sense.

    BRSxIgnition said:

    I had a really random thought/theory on the way home today - and if the show wants to go darker, I could see them doing this..

    What if Ragyo uses the thread again, but this time directly on Ryuuko's heart? Ryuuko has a ton of insecurities that she could use to her advantage, and Ragyo is heartless (pun not intended) enough to do it.

    Ugh that would be so dark. Then again, it's just a random theory - and Trigger is known to surprise with developments in times like these.

    So yeah... Ryuuko needs to be talked - or beaten- out of this. BADLY.


  • There was some hinting and foreshadowing in preview and Nui. Possibly the final Kamui would be sewed onto Ryuuko?

    Her state of mind makes her easily manipulative, and she never had the time to actually calm down. The result of her rage at episode 12 was basically a beast.
    Imagine a beast that has a definite form by the larger kamui and her rage the source, since Nui already analyzed how Ryuuko is with her rage. And now it's just another, I don't want to touch Senketsu phase..

    Also, during the episode, Ragyo was trying to anger Satsuki just so the Kamui would be put on her instead of Ryuuko, however Nui knows exactly that Satsuki would be incompatible and hinted towards Ryuuko, which connects with the preview.
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    Feb 20, 2014 11:54 PM

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    Man, I can totally understand Ragyo who can't help but smack that ass!! Screw anyone who doesn't like that scene, MORE ASS SMACKING PLEASE!!!

    Mako's mom looking at Tsumugu's P was hilarious XD

    Who would've thought nudist Jakuzure would be so hot! I don't usually like lolis but she gets my vote. Mako's voluptuous for someone her size, no wonder Gamogori was excited.. they would make some disturbing doujinshi though
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    Decent ep, at least it's better than the repetitive, low budget average/overrated(but not bad) anime that was the episodes preceding the last 2.

    Ryuko is mad! Mako is going to give her another one of her random ass Talk no Jutsus to make her come to her senses and she'll wear Senketsu again. I hope not, I'd rather it end up happening some other, non-predictable way, as I've found this show a bit predictable so far, from knowing the 2 were sisters, everyone joining forces in the end, to Dr. Matoi being the former lover of Ragyou. All too predictable, hopefully this changes.
    Feb 21, 2014 12:23 AM

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    I have a couple of potential ideas about how the next episode will go down in the beginning, based on the preview (horrid source material).

    1. Ryuko will leave, and something life-fiber related will happen to her after she ends up in enemy hands (unlikely, in my opinion)

    2. Ryuko will be talked down by Senketsu/Mako, and will end up having to have foreign life fibers extracted from her body that first infected her through her heart (a la, the "STEPS" that have been taken).

    Don't really know what Satsuki will do now, based on her location, but it's likely that she knows ways out of the school that her Mother hasn't found already.
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    Nonon is so hot. I freaking love her and her voice.

    LOL at the nudist guy. His posing and the violet glim never fails to make me laugh me every episode. I lol'ed too at DTR being typed in the computer and Mrs. Mankanshoku looking at his shining thing.
    Feb 21, 2014 1:04 AM
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    This is getting dumber by the episode.
    Feb 21, 2014 1:18 AM

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    BRSxIgnition, you are winning.
    Feb 21, 2014 1:23 AM

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    So much fan service, me like it.

    Hah. I called it right after all, Isshin was Ryuuko's biological father in disguise.
    Feb 21, 2014 1:23 AM

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    sentience said:

    I think they want to show her as heartless and also extremely villainous without any hope for redemption. Those scenes aren't really there for fanservice. They are extremely disturbing, disgusting and not fun to see at all.


    I'm pretty sure it is for fanservice. Its not just the fact that she's molested by her mother, but its the way they show it. Its done in a very pornographic manner: The repeated close ups in full lighting. They're showing these scenes in a way that displays Satsuki's body parts. they do it for people who like that incest hentai garbage.
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    OMG the Elite 4 doing the Nudist Beach fashions just made me laugh for some reason. Time to rebel against those Life Fiber Clothes.

    Damn Satsuki having a hard time dealing with her mother. Oh damn, Ryuko showing hostility towards Senketsu...

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    http://i.imgur.com/PLKy35c.png
    Couldn't resist~

    Also, anime ends with this, of course:
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    -Madara- said:
    Pretty much loved the GamaXMako scene. REALLY am hoping that Mako doesnt really die on the 21st episode.

    Also think its possible that final fight might be Satsuki VS Ryouko still. I can kinda see that happening. But then again they could also fight together to beat her. *Shrugs*

    For now lets hope Mako survives episode 21 two weeks from now.


    What the actual f*ck do you mean by that? I hope you're just bluffing for everyone's sanity.

    And f*ck. I waited a whole week and now I want next week even more.
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    Kuchenlight said:
    I could enjoy this show a whole lot more if it wasn't for Ryuuko. She's such an annoying and overall bad character.
    Every 3 or 4 episodes she seems to be in desperate need of drama, only to overcome it shortly after and go "now I'm even more awesome!", then it's back to more drama and then it's "but NOW I'm like REALLY awesome!!".
    That plus her shounen'ish dialogues with Senketsu makes her the biggest flaw in a pretty good anime.


    To be honest I kinda agree. I understand she has this big pile of shocking secrets surrounding her life but it's, well, TOO big and not organized well in terms of storywriting. Ryuuko gets to know about something - she's angry and unstable - she gets a lesson from her surroundings - everything is okay for a couple of episodes - repeat. Not to mention her relationship with Senketsu which seems to be like a revolving door...
    But I'm not bothered that much because other characters compensate for this flaw. And it's not enough for Ryuuko to make it into my "OH GOD SHE'S TERRIBLE KILL HER ALREADY" category, so it's all good. I'm watching this for Satsuki anyway
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    Three words: Nonon, Nudist beach.

    Basically just summed up the best part of the episode there. 4/5 liked it.

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    Couldn't resist~


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    Ciara said:
    To be honest I kinda agree. I understand she has this big pile of shocking secrets surrounding her life but it's, well, TOO big and not organized well in terms of storywriting. Ryuuko gets to know about something - she's angry and unstable - she gets a lesson from her surroundings - everything is okay for a couple of episodes - repeat. Not to mention her relationship with Senketsu which seems to be like a revolving door...

    You say it like we've gone through this over and over. This is only the second time that Ryuuko has become very unstable, the first being in Episode 12/13. That supposed cycle isn't even complete in this case, as we've yet to see just what happens after she becomes unstable.

    Her relationship with Senketsu has only improved throughout the series. There have been times when she chose not to wear Senketsu, but not out of fear or resentment towards him.
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    Thund3r1 said:
    sentience said:

    I think they want to show her as heartless and also extremely villainous without any hope for redemption. Those scenes aren't really there for fanservice. They are extremely disturbing, disgusting and not fun to see at all.


    I'm pretty sure it is for fanservice. Its not just the fact that she's molested by her mother, but its the way they show it. Its done in a very pornographic manner: The repeated close ups in full lighting. They're showing these scenes in a way that displays Satsuki's body parts. they do it for people who like that incest hentai garbage.


    Yeah, going by your logic, every single "intended" hentai/ecchi must be "fanservicing", which goes without saying,, not true. Since episode 1, there's already been "ecchi" scenes plus the anime is already rated as R17+ so I don't see what's "fanservicing" or not after 19 episodes of "barely" fighting/s.
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    Jeez, where to start...First of all, the enjoyable eps were fun while it lasted 2 episode streak and it's back to Meh la Meh.

    The only bombshell that happened is
    I won't miss Nudist Beach when this is over...Their mechs look retarded and I find glowing nipples and crotch unfunny (except when Mako's mom was gazing at his glory, cheating doujins incoming).

    If being Satsuki being love tapped Hagyo, yes HAGyo, is Trigger's idea of showing the 'torture/rape as drama' trope they should take a hint from Daughters of Mnemosyne, I expected her to be captured and brutally sexually assaulted a la Pulp Fiction, when I heard in the preview that a defeated Satsuki has gone missing. This sure is a shoddy means of rustling Satsuki. I felt worse for her in the flashbacks as a baby being experimented on than this scene. I love how they put more effort in those scenes than the QUALITY stuff that happens throughout the series...fuck the animators...

    If Gamako wasn't made more obvious this episode, I don't know what is. I have a sad doubt in my mind that the feelings won't be reciprocated. Is it just me, or is Mako stacked? Though it was played for laughs judging by how artistically she was represented, I was more turned on by Mako's nudity than the spanking scene. Great, now I'm more turned by her than I am annoyed...Trigger dammit, what have you done?

    Ryuko is lashing out because she's a monster and she probably can't go back to being a normal girl. I hope like hell it doesn't pull the usually hype schtick where we have something dramatic escalate and de-escalate with something simple (fucking Mako's hallelujah BS...another thing I won't miss when this is over). Judging by her being suspended by life fibers next ep maybe it won't be the case this time


    3/5, Not as bad as a good majority of the first half of KLK, but I wasn't as thrilled by this ep as I was the previous two eps.
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    I feel bad for those who couldn't enjoy this episode as much as I did, but it can't be helped. 5/5 in my eyes; quite easily so. KLK's been awesome for a few weeks now and it doesn't show any signs of letting up.
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    This is the third WTF ending in a row. Jeez Trigger, give it a rest, will you?
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    I thought this was a pretty good episode. Personally, I don't think that fanservice (If you want to call it that) is that bothering. Mostly it looked like it was meant for comedy purposes; from looking at previous eps. Also, that spanking scene was kind of weird though, I do admit that.

    On a side note, I wonder what she was looking at: http://gyazo.com/455d3ae6e916d962999b6a36c29bb810
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    NUDIST EVERONE, YES.

    + Mako x Gamagoori. Yes.
    Feb 21, 2014 5:13 AM

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    GuiltyKing said:
    I feel bad for those who couldn't enjoy this episode as much as I did, but it can't be helped. 5/5 in my eyes; quite easily so. KLK's been awesome for a few weeks now and it doesn't show any signs of letting up.


    Agreed.. definite 5/5. I don't get how anyone get's bored by this or means the Episoder are getting worse now.
    They are as good as always.

    Just enjoy the fckin Show and don't complain about every little damn Thing
    Feb 21, 2014 5:18 AM

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    Astyn said:
    Ryuko looks like Kamina with her cape

    Actually it reminded me of unit 2 from the original Evangelion series. The episode where they fought that underwater angel.
    Feb 21, 2014 5:33 AM
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    what if senketsu get dressed by satsuki in order to help ryuko?
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    nikaso said:
    what if senketsu get dressed by satsuki in order to help ryuko?


    Now this is an awesome idea.
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    Welp, thus marks the 3rd episode that I've literally fallen asleep during (tho it's been about 10 episodes since the last time so I suppose that's a win?.....maybe?)
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    SimmianPrime said:
    Welp, thus marks the 3rd episode that I've literally fallen asleep during (tho it's been about 10 episodes since the last time so I suppose that's a win?.....maybe?)


    It's the most intense period of Kill la Kill with non-stop action, gazillion plot twists/revelations, & gratuitous fan services yet you fell asleep. Why are you even watching this show?
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    Gamagoori blushing has to be the cutest thing aw! Nonon's reaction to Gamagoori and Mako flirting is hilarious http://i.imgur.com/iiaLRkl.jpg MAKOGOORI 100% canon
    I was so scared Mako would die thank fuck she's okay. If she does die the ending song will wreck me, i'm sure.
    Nudist Beach Nonon has got to be the coolest thing I've seen in a while thanks Trigger

    Ragyo has got to be the worst mom, I swear. Her molesting has gotten so gross, every scene with her and Satsuki makes me cringe.

    Ryuko nooo don't do this to Senketsu!

    SimmianPrime said:
    Welp, thus marks the 3rd episode that I've literally fallen asleep during (tho it's been about 10 episodes since the last time so I suppose that's a win?.....maybe?)
    you have absolute shit taste wow
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    I love how Gamagori tries to behave manly, but can't hide his concern about Mako
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    Gamako confirmed, but it would be bad if Trigger decides to kill Mako. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    After all let's not forget what we saw in her glasses of episode 7.

    And I loved the Mankanshoku Mom. Mom of the year.
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    Well I think its pretty obvious how this is going to roll =P

    Satsuki is going to get a new Godrobe (duh) which will control her mind, Ryuuko will fight against her, get beaten, and then required to use Senketsu.

    Also Satsuki will get out of her new Godrobe with the toenail and they will either fight together against Ragyo or Satsuki will let Ryuuko fight her. That depends on the amount if damage she does on her newer Godrobe and if she can control it after being controlled by it.
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    jiraiya_sensei said:
    SimmianPrime said:
    Welp, thus marks the 3rd episode that I've literally fallen asleep during (tho it's been about 10 episodes since the last time so I suppose that's a win?.....maybe?)


    It's the most intense period of Kill la Kill with non-stop action, gazillion plot twists/revelations, & gratuitous fan services yet you fell asleep. Why are you even watching this show?


    And for 19 episodes?

    Any detractors at this point complaining about the style of the show (clothing/nudity, fast action, type of humor, etc) really need to get their heads examined. The type of show Kill La Kill wanted to be was clear from the first episode and nothing since has changed, so how messed up do you have to be to continue to watch a show for nearly 2 seasons when you don't even like the concept of it?
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    That noise those covers made... I guess that's why ryuuko turned "evil". Though I guess I needn't state the obvious.

    Awesome stuff yet again :)
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    Ryuuko and her problem with the clothing again... oh man...
    Trigger should put more money on the animation staff too.
    Feb 21, 2014 9:32 AM

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    Hmm. I just noticed that they didn't do that Red Text thing for when he said "mightiest five", and all that- even though it was a good opportunity to do it.
    Did they actually do it at all during this episode? I'll have to rewatch to make sure...
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    Compl3te said:
    BRSxIgnition, you are winning.

    Er, thanks? Hahaha. I just connected 2 & 2 together.. Actually, I've found more information that links them together.

    Ragyo Puppeteer Theory - V2
    *In Spoiler Below

    I've added a few things to the theory, such as Ragyo's words before the scene, and a shot from the preview which hints at Ryuuko being controlled.

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    lol Nonon trolling
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    Wonder what Shinra koketsu is btw. Something to do with Satsuki getting angry. She probably releases some kind of power that Ragyo can use as a weapon. There's just a ton of interesting plot elements you can take from this episode, but the foreshadowing is still strong which I like


    My hunch would be more along the lines of it being a powerful kamui which will use Satsuki as its energy source.


    Nah it's not a Kamui. Not judging by the context of their conversation

    Satsuki: "only one reason you'd keep me alive: Shinra Koketsu"

    Ragyo responds about how the more angry she gets, the more useful she is

    That and we have 2 main Kamuis and they are making a 3rd.

    Yeah she probably releases some kind of dangerous power once she gets angry. And thinking about it now, she hasn't gotten truly angry in the whole series so far. Now with this though, I figure Ragyo will antagonize her somehow to force her to get angry. And given how she announced it as the sole reason to keep her alive, it will happen very soon
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    Giving this show a 10 because of the incest yuri sex.
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    Seeing the Elite 4 as Nudists was great.

    Shinra kouketsu means something like "trusted nobility". It probably has to do with the fact that Satsuki is Ragyou's daughter. But I suppose it'll be written differently than what it sounds (like other puns in the show such as sen'i soushitsu).
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    the spanking kida creepy.
    Mako X Gamagori SO AWESOME !
    Nudist 4 diva = gg
    i hope Ryuko will be back soon, Don't lose your way!!!!
    Satsuki is more badass than Erza when caught (she don't need rescuing duh!)
    Satsuki will probably eacape bitch slap Ryuko and then hug her , Ryuko will cry and realize that her father is dead but his will and memory live on with sengetsu , Ryuko kisses her onee-chan fight Ragyo and Nui in 2v2 combat
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