Volume 9 Discussion.

Apr 3, 2014 8:47 PM

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Wow, what a start to this chapter. I have no idea where Touma is either based on those descriptions and images. I guess the power of a Magic God really does make a difference. This was quite the intense volume with Komoe sensei using a knife?! WHAT THE FUCK. Oh wait, they were in the Alpha world. Got it. This is really interesting though with the way Othinus is trying to destroy Touma. The beta world was even more interesting imo as I noticed Touma’s name was under quotation marks so I knew it wasn’t actually him, or rather the real Touma.
One part about the world was that Accelerator and Misaka seemingly made up. Is this a foreshadowing?! I know Misaka would probably never forgive the #1 Esper but still…
The best quote imo period of this entire series is this:

“Of course it bothers me. Of course it bothers me!! What was I doing all that time? I didn’t want some huge sum of money and I didn’t want to make my own kingdom with a ridiculous amount of power. I just wanted to wake up in my dorm, make food for Index, go to school, and hang out with my friends after school. I just wanted that normal life back. So why do I have to be treated like an absolute evil!? That’s ridiculous. Othinus saved every last one of the six billion people on earth to make me suffer. There’s something seriously wrong with her sense of scale! Why the hell do I have to go through all this? What was I calling misfortune!? I had always managed to slip past all that and used every trick I had to reach a compromise. I had managed to strike a nice balance! But she destroyed it all. Of course it bothers me! Even if it’s meaningless and no one else cares who it is as long as they’re saved, it still bothers me!! I coughed up blood and shed tears to somehow make my way along that path, but Othinus easily did it like it was just a game! She stole everything from me!! She stole everything I had – even the path I walked down – and she did it so skillfully that I feel stupid complaining about it!! What the hell was that? If she could do that, why didn’t she save everyone in the first place!? If that was an option, why didn’t she use it more seriously!? And I doubt it will even last that long. Once Othinus gets bored, she’ll just destroy this world too. If you can easily create something, you have no problem with destroying it. But I can’t create anything better than this. It doesn’t matter what complaints I make when she can give everyone a smile with a wave of that lance. And this isn’t someone else deciding that it doesn’t matter. It’s me! Me!! She showed me it doesn’t matter if I oppose her!! It’s all a deception created to corner me, but it doesn’t matter to me if it’s all fake!! It’s almost like a game to her, but the smiles she’s given Index and the others are something I could never give them even after a century of hard work. I couldn’t do it without inventing a time machine, but she did it without even trying. Am I supposed to stand up to that!? Why did someone like her have to appear in front of me!? If she was going to do this, couldn’t she do it on the other side of the planet? No, why couldn’t she create this paradise on the moon or Mars and be happy there!? She could leave all the people here alone and create a new human race on a desert planet she made livable!! …I don’t want to fight anymore. I don’t want to oppose a monster like that. I was never fighting because I wanted to. It’s just that I always saw someone holding back tears in some horribly painful situation. Even if they cried and cried, no one would have complained, but they put up with it anyway. …And I couldn’t allow it to go on. I clenched my fist like an idiot, charged in, and somehow resolved the incident. I didn’t do it to be thanked. I didn’t do it because I wanted anything in return. But overcoming those things increased the number of people around me. I began to think those connections with people had some kind of meaning!! And this is where it got me. I had everything taken from me. As you said, someone might rush over for my sake if they knew. They might cast everything aside and join me even if it meant making an enemy of this entire world run by Othinus. But! That doesn’t matter!! It never mattered. That tiny illusion is not worth abandoning this miraculous situation where lost lives have returned. I wanted to have fun with everyone some more. I never bothered to realize how comfortable my position was. If nothing had happened yet and Othinus suggested bringing back all those lost lives, I would probably have rejected it based on some random ideal or another. I would say their deaths had meaning or that you can’t toy with people’s lives so easily! But she’s already done it. To ‘return things to normal’ now would be no different from killing those unknowing and smiling people with my own hand!! No matter how many excuses you make, that fact does not change. A decision that I make would kill every last one of them!! There’s…there’s nothing I can do. What good is it to take away this world without crime, debt, or broken hearts!? Even if I defeated Othinus, returned everything to normal, and justly slaughtered everyone who shouldn’t be alive, would I really return to the world I picture in my head? How would I ever face the people who are living their normal lives, ignorant of what had happened? Could I really just smile? Could I really smile like an ignorant fool when I really knew the truth!! Like hell I could!! Nothing would remain for me either way. Whether I defeat Othinus or not and whether I live or die, I can’t return to ‘normal’!! No matter what happens and no matter how this ends, there is no way for me to succeed. Even if I don’t ‘fail’ in whatever I choose to do, I will still have complaints and it will all fall apart in the end. In that case, there’s no reason to fight!! Why should I destroy this miraculous situation!? If every path leads to destruction, why not just accept Othinus’s victory? Why not let the number of people saved decide it!? Who saved more people, me or Othinus? The answer is obviously Othinus!! I knew from the beginning I couldn’t hold a candle to what she did!! What else can I do? After…after everything she’s done, there’s nowhere left for me to go!!!!!!”

Stark700Apr 3, 2014 9:47 PM

Apr 3, 2014 9:42 PM

#102

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Stark700 said:
The best quote imo period of this entire series is this:

“Of course it bothers me. Of course it bothers me!! What was I doing all that time? I didn’t want some huge sum of money and I didn’t want to make my own kingdom with a ridiculous amount of power. I just wanted to wake up in my dorm, make food for Index, go to school, and hang out with my friends after school. I just wanted that normal life back. So why do I have to be treated like an absolute evil!? That’s ridiculous. Othinus saved every last one of the six billion people on earth to make me suffer. There’s something seriously wrong with her sense of scale! Why the hell do I have to go through all this? What was I calling misfortune!? I had always managed to slip past all that and used every trick I had to reach a compromise. I had managed to strike a nice balance! But she destroyed it all. Of course it bothers me! Even if it’s meaningless and no one else cares who it is as long as they’re saved, it still bothers me!! I coughed up blood and shed tears to somehow make my way along that path, but Othinus easily did it like it was just a game! She stole everything from me!! She stole everything I had – even the path I walked down – and she did it so skillfully that I feel stupid complaining about it!! What the hell was that? If she could do that, why didn’t she save everyone in the first place!? If that was an option, why didn’t she use it more seriously!? And I doubt it will even last that long. Once Othinus gets bored, she’ll just destroy this world too. If you can easily create something, you have no problem with destroying it. But I can’t create anything better than this. It doesn’t matter what complaints I make when she can give everyone a smile with a wave of that lance. And this isn’t someone else deciding that it doesn’t matter. It’s me! Me!! She showed me it doesn’t matter if I oppose her!! It’s all a deception created to corner me, but it doesn’t matter to me if it’s all fake!! It’s almost like a game to her, but the smiles she’s given Index and the others are something I could never give them even after a century of hard work. I couldn’t do it without inventing a time machine, but she did it without even trying. Am I supposed to stand up to that!? Why did someone like her have to appear in front of me!? If she was going to do this, couldn’t she do it on the other side of the planet? No, why couldn’t she create this paradise on the moon or Mars and be happy there!? She could leave all the people here alone and create a new human race on a desert planet she made livable!! …I don’t want to fight anymore. I don’t want to oppose a monster like that. I was never fighting because I wanted to. It’s just that I always saw someone holding back tears in some horribly painful situation. Even if they cried and cried, no one would have complained, but they put up with it anyway. …And I couldn’t allow it to go on. I clenched my fist like an idiot, charged in, and somehow resolved the incident. I didn’t do it to be thanked. I didn’t do it because I wanted anything in return. But overcoming those things increased the number of people around me. I began to think those connections with people had some kind of meaning!! And this is where it got me. I had everything taken from me. As you said, someone might rush over for my sake if they knew. They might cast everything aside and join me even if it meant making an enemy of this entire world run by Othinus. But! That doesn’t matter!! It never mattered. That tiny illusion is not worth abandoning this miraculous situation where lost lives have returned. I wanted to have fun with everyone some more. I never bothered to realize how comfortable my position was. If nothing had happened yet and Othinus suggested bringing back all those lost lives, I would probably have rejected it based on some random ideal or another. I would say their deaths had meaning or that you can’t toy with people’s lives so easily! But she’s already done it. To ‘return things to normal’ now would be no different from killing those unknowing and smiling people with my own hand!! No matter how many excuses you make, that fact does not change. A decision that I make would kill every last one of them!! There’s…there’s nothing I can do. What good is it to take away this world without crime, debt, or broken hearts!? Even if I defeated Othinus, returned everything to normal, and justly slaughtered everyone who shouldn’t be alive, would I really return to the world I picture in my head? How would I ever face the people who are living their normal lives, ignorant of what had happened? Could I really just smile? Could I really smile like an ignorant fool when I really knew the truth!! Like hell I could!! Nothing would remain for me either way. Whether I defeat Othinus or not and whether I live or die, I can’t return to ‘normal’!! No matter what happens and no matter how this ends, there is no way for me to succeed. Even if I don’t ‘fail’ in whatever I choose to do, I will still have complaints and it will all fall apart in the end. In that case, there’s no reason to fight!! Why should I destroy this miraculous situation!? If every path leads to destruction, why not just accept Othinus’s victory? Why not let the number of people saved decide it!? Who saved more people, me or Othinus? The answer is obviously Othinus!! I knew from the beginning I couldn’t hold a candle to what she did!! What else can I do? After…after everything she’s done, there’s nowhere left for me to go!!!!!!”

Pic related.

And you're crazy in catching up to Index in just a few days. Do you still have a life outside of anime/manga?

Apr 4, 2014 9:26 AM

#103

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Shit shit shit...

I finished reading this volume two days ago and I still can't get it out of my mind. That's just how a masterpiece it was!

WTF are J.C.Staff and the production companies are doing?!!

They're wasting their time with pieces of crap like Witch Craft Works and leaving a masterpiece like this? There's already enough material for 70+ episodes in the series.

If they animate this right, I really think it could surpass most anime out there. I really think it has the potential to be one of the top 10 anime of all time.

Ahhhh...

AoiyashaApr 4, 2014 9:38 AM

Apr 4, 2014 1:08 PM

#104

GodlyKyon

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Aoiyasha said:
Shit shit shit...

I finished reading this volume two days ago and I still can't get it out of my mind. That's just how a masterpiece it was!

WTF are J.C.Staff and the production companies are doing?!!

They're wasting their time with pieces of crap like Witch Craft Works and leaving a masterpiece like this? There's already enough material for 70+ episodes in the series.

If they animate this right, I really think it could surpass most anime out there. I really think it has the potential to be one of the top 10 anime of all time.

Ahhhh...

Take time and make it as well animated as Railgun S!

Too bad next season we might not even get WWIII's conclusion... le sigh.

"Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys

Apr 4, 2014 1:11 PM

#105

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GodlyKyon said:

Aoiyasha said:
Shit shit shit...

I finished reading this volume two days ago and I still can't get it out of my mind. That's just how a masterpiece it was!

WTF are J.C.Staff and the production companies are doing?!!

They're wasting their time with pieces of crap like Witch Craft Works and leaving a masterpiece like this? There's already enough material for 70+ episodes in the series.

If they animate this right, I really think it could surpass most anime out there. I really think it has the potential to be one of the top 10 anime of all time.

Ahhhh...

Take time and make it as well animated as Railgun S!

Too bad next season we might not even get WWIII's conclusion... le sigh.

For that we need at least 3-cour to happen.

Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.

Apr 4, 2014 1:38 PM

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NeoAnkara said:

GodlyKyon said:

Aoiyasha said:
Shit shit shit...

I finished reading this volume two days ago and I still can't get it out of my mind. That's just how a masterpiece it was!

WTF are J.C.Staff and the production companies are doing?!!

They're wasting their time with pieces of crap like Witch Craft Works and leaving a masterpiece like this? There's already enough material for 70+ episodes in the series.

If they animate this right, I really think it could surpass most anime out there. I really think it has the potential to be one of the top 10 anime of all time.

Ahhhh...

Take time and make it as well animated as Railgun S!

Too bad next season we might not even get WWIII's conclusion... le sigh.

For that we need at least 3-cour to happen.

Or lots of cutting, or creative use of animation.

"Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys

Apr 4, 2014 1:44 PM

#107

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GodlyKyon said:

NeoAnkara said:

GodlyKyon said:

Aoiyasha said:
Shit shit shit...

I finished reading this volume two days ago and I still can't get it out of my mind. That's just how a masterpiece it was!

WTF are J.C.Staff and the production companies are doing?!!

They're wasting their time with pieces of crap like Witch Craft Works and leaving a masterpiece like this? There's already enough material for 70+ episodes in the series.

If they animate this right, I really think it could surpass most anime out there. I really think it has the potential to be one of the top 10 anime of all time.

Ahhhh...

Take time and make it as well animated as Railgun S!

Too bad next season we might not even get WWIII's conclusion... le sigh.

For that we need at least 3-cour to happen.

Or lots of cutting, or creative use of animation.

Why not just split it? 2-cour covered until the rebellion in English and WWIII get a single cour.

Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.

Apr 4, 2014 1:47 PM

#108

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NeoAnkara said:
Why not just split it? 2-cour covered until the rebellion in English and WWIII get a single cour.

I'm not sure a single cour would be able to fit everything, would it?

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Apr 4, 2014 1:49 PM

#109

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Emnay said:

NeoAnkara said:
Why not just split it? 2-cour covered until the rebellion in English and WWIII get a single cour.

I'm not sure a single cour would be able to fit everything, would it?

Now that I remember WWIII is three volume long.

Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.

Apr 25, 2014 9:34 AM

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we got 10 volumes till new testament, a 2cour covers 7 volume, making it 3 cours would be the best solution. though, i can see the problem is whether they can get the money for animating it for 3 cours. i mean seriously it would be a bad idea to make WWIII to season after next and putting part of NT into the it to fill... (in my opinion at least)

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Jun 2, 2014 8:01 AM

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Best volume so far, even though the outcome is not what I would have expected, even stupid if not by its magnificient development that lead to it.

I'm definetly in love with othinus, and I'll ship for ToumaxOthinus, but, am I the only one that thinks that ToumaxMikoto is still the best?

Hans_0819Jun 2, 2014 8:06 AM

Jun 2, 2014 9:32 PM

#112

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Itachi_0893 said:
Best volume so far, even though the outcome is not what I would have expected, even stupid if not by its magnificient development that lead to it.

I'm definetly in love with othinus, and I'll ship for ToumaxOthinus, but, am I the only one that thinks that ToumaxMikoto is still the best?

ToumaxMikoto will never be the best simple because there is no chemistry between them expect from when he is saving her ass. Even Itsuwa's failed attempts to hand him a warm towel are far better than Mikoto's tsundere interactions with him.

Read this if you want to start the Fate/ series but don't know from where.

Jun 4, 2014 4:29 PM

#113

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ssjokg said:

Itachi_0893 said:
Best volume so far, even though the outcome is not what I would have expected, even stupid if not by its magnificient development that lead to it.

I'm definetly in love with othinus, and I'll ship for ToumaxOthinus, but, am I the only one that thinks that ToumaxMikoto is still the best?

ToumaxMikoto will never be the best simple because there is no chemistry between them expect from when he is saving her ass. Even Itsuwa's failed attempts to hand him a warm towel are far better than Mikoto's tsundere interactions with him.

Well you are parcially true, even so I loved her even when it will be practically impossible for them ending up as a pair. And well it's not supposed to be in this thread considering is something that happens in the next volume but,

So whatever the case Mikoto is still my favorite.

Apr 2, 2023 5:42 AM

#114

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wtf Kamachi basically wrote Re:Zero before it even came out, I LOVE the usage of different world or timelines created by Othinus here.

And the fucking plot twist that a Magic God is a sympathetic and misunderstood character all along?!? Goddamnit why is this so GOOD?!?

Mar 3, 8:05 PM

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Reply to FragmantLemon

wtf Kamachi basically wrote Re:Zero before it even came out, I LOVE the usage of different world or timelines created by Othinus here.

And the fucking plot twist that a Magic God is a sympathetic and misunderstood character all along?!? Goddamnit why is this so GOOD?!?

@FragmantLemon WRONG

ReZERO started serialization as a web novel on the user-generated website Shōsetsuka ni Narō in 2012. This Volume a year after that.

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