86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
| People who say 86 being edgy are simply wrong here. I think for a Light Novel, the themes that the series portrays is better than any of the generic Light Novels in the industry. Unfortunately, 86 does incorporate some the tropes: A beautiful looking white hair girl, a stern male lead, and so on. But, I often look past it because from all the Light Novels I've read, I realized this aspect has become an integral part of the industry. However, the themes that the series portrays is by far some of the most refreshing writing--for a Light Novel. And to people that dismiss 86 based off some of the tropes, simply lacks the knowledge of the readers. |
Fantyyy said: LordSozin said: And to people that dismiss 86 based off some of the tropes, simply lacks the knowledge of the readers. Not really, they're just biased. We got to the point where the qualities of the LN are visible in the adaptation too, but based on some previous conversations I had a lot of people are just so ideologically biased about these things that they cry about the way of thinking of Lena and the 86 being unrealistic and stupid simply cause they personally don't agree with them. And as it often turns out, most of these people just have 0 empathy in general. MUH MUH If tHEY'rE OpPreSSeD theY SHouLd RiSe UP, MUH MUH sHe's SO IDeALiSTiC and StUPiD Like yeah, if you actually payed attention (and you're not a complete tool) it's clear why these characters are like this. Always the same shit. I guess I was wrong here. That's my fault because I don't usually interact with anime only watchers. Ideological bias is inevitable since they may not consider things they may not use to. But I still think it's better if we just approach them none aggressively. |
Fantyyy said: kataneer said: Illogical world, edgy nazi-like villains, tons of plot holes, kawaii 16-years old waifubait and cool edgy black-haired boy, A-1 Pictures, ln source. Why can't I? At least SAO has some cute waifus and nice action scenes (especially in phantom bullet arc). 86 has only cgi mechas and Vladilena, a degenerate girl that made me wanna kill myself every time she opens her mouth to say another stupid shit. You don't know what edgy means. You should look into a mirror to find it out. You also have no clue what illogical or degenerate stands for apparently. See where I'm going? :) My favorite type of MAL user lol. Well, and my favorite type of MAL user is a person who can't discuss anything without personal attacks and insults instead of any arguments. Sad to see that all of 86 fans in thread are a part of this type, but I guess this is just how MAL works ;) |
kataneer said: Incredibly based. It's just your typical dystopian drama with the main cast being teenagers (IE, self inserts), you've seen it all before in TV and anime. Average story and plenty of waifus, I don't even know how they could counterargue this loladdie1998 said: people in japan actually support this show Not so much, as I see. Not sure about streaming and model kit sales (is A-1 a part of the production committee?), but I guess that blu-ray sales still matter the most. Also, this anime is a LN advertisement (and not an isekai), so after the last ep Kadokawa can decide to stop if 86 will boost LN sales enough, but wouldn't be so much successful itself. |
GakutoDeathGlare said: kataneer said: Incredibly based. It's just your typical dystopian drama with the main cast being teenagers (IE, self inserts), you've seen it all before in TV and anime. Average story and plenty of waifus, I don't even know how they could counterargue this lolNot so much, as I see. Not sure about streaming and model kit sales (is A-1 a part of the production committee?), but I guess that blu-ray sales still matter the most. Also, this anime is a LN advertisement (and not an isekai), so after the last ep Kadokawa can decide to stop if 86 will boost LN sales enough, but wouldn't be so much successful itself. You've the right to look at the series however you want, but I think it's utter ignorance of you to assume that every fan of 86 are there only for self-insert. I, for one, followed the series because it was quite a captivating one as a Light Novel. |
Casual_Watcher05 said: Blurays do sell actually.All the other shows that were released with 86 sold pretty well.For something like 86 to succeed as an adaptation,it needed to do Vivy's,Odd taxy or Tokyo Revengers numbers.Over 3k+ each volume.There was another mecha show that was released with 86,SSS Dynazenon.Sold 3100+ blurays per volume.86 just didn't sell well. The mecha kits are made by Bandai Spirits.The profit goes to bandai spirits.It has nothing to do with A-1 studio.Blurays sales are how the studio makes money.I sure hope the money to adapt more 86 volumes come from somewhere. While I think it's always nice to base one self on direct data, the interpretation of such data is also a vital part of making an argument. That said I'm confused how you could go from using data to then stepping into this many pitfalls on the interpretation side of things? - Disregard for the composition of the production committee and the resulting relativity in income streams? - Not acknowledging the shift in the industrywide revenue sectors as pointed out across multiple years of industry reports? - Still buying into the misconception that home video sales are direct revenue streams for studios? - Somehow attributing A-1 here a far greater negotiating prowess than they realistically possess? Like, good on you for looking into sales chart and all but I think it'd do you well to read up on some material that puts these figures into context and gives you a proper idea what these actually mean beyond show x has a smaller number than show y, just as a piece of advice. Tho it might be hard if you aren't well versed in Japanese and/or English. That said I do not share these concern at all considering how the committee is set up and which revenue streams have seen what should be a sufficient return. |
FappaOct 10, 2021 3:28 AM
Reinaria said: if you have some constructive criticism feel free to present them. |
| So basically OP was so mad about 86 DVD/BD numbers that he deleted his account ? Man, its just a cartoon dont take it too seriously. |
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| Glad to see my girl vivy did well. |
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| It depends on what persepective people are putting these numbers into. Blu ray sales are going to get lower as more time passes. 1800 blu rays sold in 2021 may be seen like 1200 blu rays sold in 2022. If you comparing the shows from smaller publishers like Kadokawa, NBCUniversal, Warner Bros, those numbers are good. The problem is Aniplex already has much higher than average sales than a ton of other productions. Especially A1 pictures since their shows are much better produced. It is not a total flop like Tokyo 24. But since this is an adaptation that needs to adapt a ton of light novels, it may be difficult for them to get to later cours. This is not an original which usually just last abou 2 cours anyways. But it is not a viral hit like Dress Up Darling so there are going to focus on it much. The only way for overseas fans to help really is to pre-order the blu rays from cdjapan and ami ami. Streaming for the most part still doesn't do too much since there are usually just 2 ish shonen animes dominating the streaming. Merch sales and restocks won't come unless the show has a good track record |
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