So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)
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| I like that they are actually trying to explain some stuff about the world and confirming that Kumoko’s storyline is actually set in the past. Assuming she is the Demon Lord, I’m not sure why she is attacking the humans and why she had so much insubordination in her ranks. They had corp names so it wasn’t like they just formed, right? They probably just have to explain it more. |
| [quote=Rizawl message=62220401] billybub said: beast_regards said: I don't understand why you are confused about what is confusing me. *shrug* I suppose it is possible that I simply hate the characters anime expects me to relate with. I think i get what confusing you, it's just, i think they skip that part in the anime. About how they recognise each other is form appraisal ceremony on human part and the teacher have her own way to recognise the student (i don't know how to put spoiler tag so, i'll leave it at that) and after that, i think the anime explain enough. heres how to put a spoiler tag [.spoiler] bla bla bla [./spoiler] just take out the periods |
billybub said: It just hasnt been revealed yet, if you absolutely must know the answer here: . They all have memories of their previous lives thats been established since ep1 I think you may have misremembered this bit. The anime is not following that much, but I guess it's mainly to help the viewer to recognize them. |
billybub said: Pretty sure nobody's expecting you to relate to them. They're secondary characters that just so happen to play a major part of the whole story. This isnt just about a spider leveling and without them there is no story Shun is practically a generic anime protagonist with zero personality and gets half of the story for himself, so I bet he is there to be an audience surrogate. Rizawl said: I think i get what confusing you, it's just, i think they skip that part in the anime. About how they recognize each other is form appraisal ceremony on human part and the teacher have her own way to recognize the student (i don't know how to put spoiler tag so, i'll leave it at that) and after that, i think the anime explain enough. It certainly was skipped. Anime stars with them already recognizing each other with no explanation given. I understand it for the teacher as she is presented as an admin so I expect her to know everything. |
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| A lot of things were disclosed in this episode. As I suspected the Kumoko we have been seeing is in the past, roughly 15 years ago. I was't sure if Kumoko was reincarnated later, if the souls of her classmates were reincarnated into teenage bodies, or if we saw Kumoko in the past and her classmates in the present (who were reincarnated from birth). It turns out it's the last one. Therefore the ominous presence the (deceased) Hero felt (and what that white spider he and his team beat feared) in that cave earlier must have been Kumoko. But not as we see her now, obviously. If in a few months(?) -the time she's been in that cave is unclear but it surely must be less than 6 months- Kumoko got that strong, strong enough to defeat a bad-ass Fire Dragon, after 15 years (if she is still in the cave and alive, i.e. if Oka-chan lied) she must be the Ultimate Queen or even Goddess of that cave. Another thing we learned is there are at least 3 re-incarnated students as demons, one of which is that super bratty Demon Lord girl. It's also possible that Administrator D is from Japan as well - not one of the students, since if she's a human she would be a toddler 15 years ago. She is not Oka-chan either, since D's VA is -almost certainly- Saori Hayami (she recently voiced Rachel from Tower of God) who has not been credited yet. Oka-chan's VA is Kaya Okuno. We saw a second Administrator too, who according to D they are the "Gods" of this world. I wonder if you normally level up to them. It appears that everyone is speaking in a native language but we just hear it as Japanese for convenience. Kumoko cannot understand them because she probably lacks a "real time translation" skill or something, but her classmates who were raised from babies in this world obviously do not need that. ldanes said: As far as I remember, they were reborn since they were little, since I think that two chapters ago the classmates talked about how the silver-haired girl had changed to how she was before, besides that there is a reborn who is an elf and is older than them, can which refutes the theory that they were all born at the same time, just look at the dragon, it barely evolved in the first chapters. (You wrote "chapters" but I assume you meant "episodes", right?) I thought that the dragon girl was not an issue, assuming that she just grew at a very slow rate, maybe because she was in a protected environment and thus did't need to enhance her skills to survive*, unlike Kumoko. Besides it was hinted by the (deceased) Hero that the egg that was retrieved when Kumoko's web home was burned was that girl (unless that was a red herring and the egg was her mother or something). However I overlooked the Elf. If Oka-chan is indeed older (I mean in calendar years of the new world, she obviously was quite older in Japan) then that refutes the theory that they were all reincarnated at the same time and so .. all bets are off. Still, based on what the former Hero said, the Kumoko we saw in the first few episodes was indeed born (or, rather, hatched) 15 years before the year we see the other students. Every other student seems to be of the same age, so that would make Oka-chan the only anomaly. Unless, that is, the Demon Lord brat is a couple of years younger - she looks younger but it is very difficult to define ages in anime. *Maybe because she used to bully Kumoko pre-reincarnation whomever/whatever reincarnated the class placed them close together on purpose, either to test them, help them or just to have fun. Perhaps their plan was to have them meet, reconcile and co-operate in order to survive together and both get stronger. However those pesky humans took Feirune's egg and that presumed plan never materialized. Please do not spoil anything beyond the latest anime episode if you reply, thanks. |
SharpedonMar 6, 2021 3:50 PM
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Rarkis said: billybub said: It just hasnt been revealed yet, if you absolutely must know the answer here: . They all have memories of their previous lives thats been established since ep1 I think you may have misremembered this bit. I guess the anime is not following that much, but I guess it's mainly to help the viewer to recognize them. You're right its been a while since I read the Lns. |
Sharpedon said: A lot of things were disclosed in this episode. As I suspected the Kumoko we have been seeing is in the past, roughly 15 years ago. I was't sure if Kumoko was reincarnated later, if the souls of her classmates were reincarnated into teenage bodies, or if we saw Kumoko in the past and her classmates in the present (who were reincarnated from birth). It turns out it's the last one. Therefore the ominous presence the (deceased) Hero felt (and what that white spider he and his team beat feared) in that cave earlier must have been Kumoko. But not as we see her now, obviously. If in a few months(?) -the time she's been in that cave is unclear but it surely must be less than 6 months- Kumoko got that strong, strong enough to defeat a bad-ass Fire Dragon, after 15 years (if she is still in the cave and alive, i.e. if Oka-chan lied) she must be the Ultimate Queen or even Goddess of that cave. Another thing we learned is there are at least 3 re-incarnated students as demons, one of which is that super bratty Demon Lord girl. It's also possible that Administrator D is from Japan as well - not one of the students, since if she's a human she would be a toddler 15 years ago. She is not Oka-chan either, since D's VA is -almost certainly- Saori Hayami (she recently voiced Rachel from Tower of God) who has not been credited yet. Oka-chan's VA is Kaya Okuno. We saw a second Administrator too, who according to D they are the "Gods" of this world. I wonder if you normally level up to them. It appears that everyone is speaking in a native language but we just hear it as Japanese for convenience. Kumoko cannot understand them because she probably lacks a "real time translation" skill or something, but her classmates who were raised from babies in this world obviously do not need that. I love Anime only theories |
Sharpedon said: Therefore the ominous presence the (deceased) Hero felt (and what that white spider he and his team beat feared) in that cave earlier must have been Kumoko. But not as we see her now, obviously. If in a few months(?) -the time she's been in that cave is unclear but it surely must be less than 6 months- Kumoko got that strong, strong enough to defeat a bad-ass Fire Dragon, after 15 years (if she is still in the cave and alive, i.e. if Oka-chan lied) she must be the Ultimate Queen or even Goddess of that cave Heroes that retrieved the material for the scarf and the egg have seen actual Kumoko. However, if the hero arrived 15 years after, spiders they saw are I think Kumoko children (or spawn, or how would you spider progeny) |
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billybub said: I love Anime only theories You should. They will allow you to act smug for another four months, I think. |
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beast_regards said: billybub said: I love Anime only theories You should. They will allow you to act smug for another four months, I think. Whats smug about enjoying other people's theories? I think they're actually pretty interesting. Im beginning to think you just dont enjoy this show and are looking for things to complain about |
| The dots are connecting. Kumoko is the past and the Human is the future. |
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Sharpedon said: A lot of things were disclosed in this episode. As I suspected the Kumoko we have been seeing is in the past, roughly 15 years ago. I was't sure if Kumoko was reincarnated later, if the souls of her classmates were reincarnated into teenage bodies, or if we saw Kumoko in the past and her classmates in the present (who were reincarnated from birth). It turns out it's the last one. Therefore the ominous presence the (deceased) Hero felt (and what that white spider he and his team beat feared) in that cave earlier must have been Kumoko. But not as we see her now, obviously. If in a few months(?) -the time she's been in that cave is unclear but it surely must be less than 6 months- Kumoko got that strong, strong enough to defeat a bad-ass Fire Dragon, after 15 years (if she is still in the cave and alive, i.e. if Oka-chan lied) she must be the Ultimate Queen or even Goddess of that cave. Another thing we learned is there are at least 3 re-incarnated students as demons, one of which is that super bratty Demon Lord girl. It's also possible that Administrator D is from Japan as well - not one of the students, since if she's a human she would be a toddler 15 years ago. She is not Oka-chan either, since D's VA is -almost certainly- Saori Hayami (she recently voiced Rachel from Tower of God) who has not been credited yet. Oka-chan's VA is Kaya Okuno. We saw a second Administrator too, who according to D they are the "Gods" of this world. I wonder if you normally level up to them. It appears that everyone is speaking in a native language but we just hear it as Japanese for convenience. Kumoko cannot understand them because she probably lacks a "real time translation" skill or something, but her classmates who were raised from babies in this world obviously do not need that. As far as I remember, they were reborn since they were little, since I think that two chapters ago the classmates talked about how the silver-haired girl had changed to how she was before, besides that there is a reborn who is an elf and is older than them, can which refutes the theory that they were all born at the same time, just look at the dragon, it barely evolved in the first chapters. However, that the demon lord's henchmen with the same abilities have known it for a long time, the theory of two different time lines validates, surely we will see it the following week |
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Punkero said: Don't mind me, I'm just here to post screenshots of this b*tch (god damnit, why is she so hot?) well her nickname in the Ln's is "Boobs" for a reason lol |
| The spoiler is me regurgitating all my thoughts and memories from episodes 6-9 that I just finished. All about the demon lord and the student/kumoko timelines and the students' lives before reincarnating but I rewatched parts of episodes 8 and 9, this is definitely the events that occurred. There's def been a lot of things I've started to appreciate since the first couple episodes. At first I didn't really get why there was this magic high school plot, but I can see they're much more important. Hugo, the student who tried to kill Yamada, totally thinks he's the hero and doesn't realize or doesn't care that he's in a real world with other living people (even if we know there's an administrator, I think this reasoning makes sense). I also loved the scene with the teacher reminding yamada why these skills are so dangerous, with hugo as a case for the dangers of someone getting over-confident; then a cut immediately to kumoko cackling at getting another wall of text with all the crazy skills she gained. I loved the way Julius' death was handled. Like maybe I could have learned more about him in order to care about him. But the way yamada just suddenly gained his skill, and instantly told him his brother was gone. 3 eps left, then another season! My only issue is going to be getting to the end of the series, and I'm going to want to know how the rest of the story goes. But it sounds like the way to do that is through the light novels. And aside from finding them, I tend to prefer watching an anime to reading the same story. |
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plutodiplomat said: The spoiler is me regurgitating all my thoughts and memories from episodes 6-9 that I just finished. All about the demon lord and the student/kumoko timelines and the students' lives before reincarnating but I rewatched parts of episodes 8 and 9, this is definitely the events that occurred. There's def been a lot of things I've started to appreciate since the first couple episodes. At first I didn't really get why there was this magic high school plot, but I can see they're much more important. Hugo, the student who tried to kill Yamada, totally thinks he's the hero and doesn't realize or doesn't care that he's in a real world with other living people (even if we know there's an administrator, I think this reasoning makes sense). I also loved the scene with the teacher reminding yamada why these skills are so dangerous, with hugo as a case for the dangers of someone getting over-confident; then a cut immediately to kumoko cackling at getting another wall of text with all the crazy skills she gained. I loved the way Julius' death was handled. Like maybe I could have learned more about him in order to care about him. But the way yamada just suddenly gained his skill, and instantly told him his brother was gone. 3 eps left, then another season! My only issue is going to be getting to the end of the series, and I'm going to want to know how the rest of the story goes. But it sounds like the way to do that is through the light novels. And aside from finding them, I tend to prefer watching an anime to reading the same story. try t..tnovelc...er id you're looking for the Lns. you should be able to figure it out |
| Pretty good episode. I ready to see everything come out. Seeing the Demon Lord Saying she would feel bad for Shun was interesting. Looking forward to the rest. |
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| Feels like this anime has been airing for two years already with how slow it's going. |
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| decent episode for once though they really just dropped a shit ton all at once ,show has been deliberately showing both now known past and future at the same time to be misleading and that seems like the case going forward on a lot of other stuff as well like we've hardly seen anything of the demon lord side and feels too obvious pin Kumoko as the demon lord |
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| Spider isekai never stops surprising me! Kumoko is so badass now, and i love how they show it with people, yet she has far more skills than they all combined xD Lmao so her spider web is the top-notch you can get in that world? Oh boy, i can't wait for her to come to the surface and finally show off haha Also, we finally know a little more about the administrators. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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beast_regards said: It certainly was skipped. Anime stars with them already recognizing each other with no explanation given.. Yeah, the alternative PoVs on volume 1 were skipped entirely and I think it's a damn shame. removing that introduction not only give new fans less reasons to care about those character, but also adds an unnecessary layer of confusion. I understand why they did that though, as those scenes would reveal the time difference almost immediately, but I still think these parts were missed. beast_regards said: I understand it for the teacher as she is presented as an admin so I expect her to know everything. In my opinion it's not a spoiler, just clarifying a confusion that may lead to more misconceptions, but anyway |
abo9 said: yeah that seems like the most likely case was thinking whoever this is they seem to driven by the fact they were bullied and have power now which is while same kumoko it does not match her personality at all but then again people can change a lot over 15 years katsu044 said: decent episode for once though they really just dropped a shit ton all at once ,show has been deliberately showing both now known past and future at the same time to be misleading and that seems like the case going forward on a lot of other stuff as well like we've hardly seen anything of the demon lord side and feels too obvious pin Kumoko as the demon lord Yep seems wayyyy too obvious with all the "demon lord"-like powers she acquired. I feel like she would be another one of their classmates they forgot about, I'd be willing to bet the other guy (girl?) that was bullied in that one flashback. You know, since they'd get revenge on their old classmates who are all living cushy lives in a new world after bullying him/her. |
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| Kumoko became an absolute babe, I really like the reveal that the spider stuff happened 15 years ago too lol, that’s wild. It makes sense I guess, since they probably would have all been reincarnated at the same time so the humans would have been babies when Kumoko was kicking ass. Awesome stuff. |
| ohhh!!!! I'm interested with human characters now lol Admin D is so terrible to spider-chan >,< she sounds like the elf sensei. I don't understand what's the role of the people in the meeting and why there's a a war, I can't wait for more revelation! |
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swordmaster2551 said: Man those light novel covers at the bottom of the page are such spoilers I wouldn't pay too much attention to the covers. Remember this novel has a lot of POVs, the cover depends on which POV is the focus of each volume. Not Really a spoiler but I don't want to bloat the page size |
hackerboy834 said: thanks I got it...sujal06 said: Little confused!?? We got see kumoko making that silk and having that egg in previous episodes (I guess ) but human side mentioned that it happened 15 years ago... But we are getting to see humans and kumoko side by side ,so when we saw kumoko with that silk and egg human side was still the same as in this episode ... But they are saying that happened 15 years ago What I want to ask that is there a different rate of flow time of both sides or any other thing Sorry my English is not good.... So, what we are seeing now on kumoko's side is 15 years in the past and the human's side is the present The egg which kumoko had was probably of fei this is what I feel and about that silk cloth is was the silk of kumoko for sure sujal bhai confidence rakh khud mai padh padh ke seekh jayega tu bhi I didn't know that stories were in different timelines... Ha dheere dheere aa hi jayegi.. |
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| epic battle with the fire dragon. Kumo levelled up a lot. and finally, she finally able to talk with someone.. the mysterious D. |
| Probably the best episode yet. Kumoko is so adorable. ^_^ |
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| I see a few people who have read the LN and who when others speculate about the anime says to just read the LN and all will be understood. What you have to understand is that there are people like me and others who do not want to read the LN yet and have not read them. We actually want to watch the Anime only and talk about the anime only and try and figure things out between us and discuss what we think may have happened and what will happen from the anime only perspective. Just like this episode it is rather fun. To not know everything and try and figure it out with the help of others who have not read Manga or LN. Also I think it is really truly hard to say how a reincarnated person with previous memories will turn out in the end. When and how will those memories bubble to the surface, how much of them will you embrace in this new world. Do you even think much about them after 15 years? I have no clue how I would handle that or deal with it. It is way to alien to truly know how I would react, guessing is only that, a guess. |
PontusMar 6, 2021 1:30 AM
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| I really can’t believe I didn’t realize Kumoko was the demon lord sitting at the table until I checked this episode discussion when it was legit shoved right into the viewers’ faces, I guess switching the voice actors threw me off a bit edit: wow rewatching those scenes makes it even more obvious yet somehow it slipped past me |
snowykevinMar 6, 2021 1:46 AM
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| I didn't read the LN but it seems pretty obvious to me that the present-time Kumoko it's not who many are implying... but... |
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Pontus said: What you have to understand is that there are people like me and others who do not want to read the LN yet and have not read them. We actually want to watch the Anime only and talk about the anime only and try and figure things out between us and discuss what we think may have happened and what will happen from the anime only perspective. Please, don’t take it in a bad way. It sure is annoying when people keep advising things that you absolutely have no intention of doing, but I’m sure their intentions are good for this series. In my opinion the anime ended up being much more a treat for LN readers than I’d ever expected. Not only because there’s only so much character development you can squeeze in 20 minutes and it hinders the show quite a bit, but also because of the little things they put in the anime that new fans have no way of knowing. You really don’t have to read the LN yet, but really, give it a go when possible. Chances are you’ll devour 10 volumes in a week. And then rewatch the anime, so you’ll understand what the fans are always giggling at. |
Rarkis said: Pontus said: What you have to understand is that there are people like me and others who do not want to read the LN yet and have not read them. We actually want to watch the Anime only and talk about the anime only and try and figure things out between us and discuss what we think may have happened and what will happen from the anime only perspective. Please, don’t take it in a bad way. It sure is annoying when people keep advising things that you absolutely have no intention of doing, but I’m sure their intentions are good for this series. In my opinion the anime ended up being much more a treat for LN readers than I’d ever expected. Not only because there’s only so much character development you can squeeze in 20 minutes and it hinders the show quite a bit, but also because of the little things they put in the anime that new fans have no way of knowing. You really don’t have to read the LN yet, but really, give it a go when possible. Chances are you’ll devour 10 volumes in a week. And then rewatch the anime, so you’ll understand what the fans are always giggling at. I will read the LN after the anime is done IF I like the anime well enough. Also I will stop reading these Episode forum discussion threads because it seems impossible to read more than 1-2 posts before I get some minor or even major spoilers. Not only that xD Also seems pretty hard to have a proper discussion, it is more like everyone want to voice their opinion but not truly discuss the episode proper. It was fun at first but now I feel it is just getting in my way more than being fun or interesting. No hard feelings I just feel that I will enjoy it more that way. |
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billybub said: Whats smug about enjoying other people's theories? I think they're actually pretty interesting. Im beginning to think you just dont enjoy this show and are looking for things to complain about Well, I have an impression that you don't enjoy the show and you are there only to mock people who didn't read the novel for not seeing the "obvious" Rarkis said: Yeah, the alternative PoVs on volume 1 were skipped entirely and I think it's a damn shame. removing that introduction not only give new fans less reasons to care about those character, but also adds an unnecessary layer of confusion. I understand why they did that though, as those scenes would reveal the time difference almost immediately, but I still think these parts were missed. If adaptation leaves out so many details it can't be understood without reading the source material, it is bad adaptation, and thus my complaint must be valid as someone's else is ruining writer's work Rarkis said: In my opinion it's not a spoiler, just clarifying a confusion that may lead to more misconceptions, but anyway It's a world running on a game logic of levels, stats, and skills. The ability to remove skills at will with no other check is an extremely big deal following the RPG logic. It's basically one of the most important in the overall logic of the story. This means they either should explain early on, or they should focus on it over other things to built up the mystery for later reveal. They did neither. |
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| Demon Lord mentioned Yamada real name at the end. DOes that mean she is originally from human/real world ?? EDIT: Maybe Kumoko and Demon Lord are same person ?? Because just noticed that spider timeline take pace before 15 year old ?? Maybe she became demon lord after 15 year ?! Because Demon lord seems to use spider web ! |
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